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Carl Tart, Adam Smith, Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak


Kulap Vilaysack  00:10

Carters, welcome back to another episode of add to cart. I’m Auntie Kuku Vilaysack.


SuChin Pak  00:15

And I’m auntie Susu Pak. You know we’re just gotta jump right in. Cause we’re not gotta have enough time to get to everything that we need to get to today. We’re so very exicted about our guest coming up.


Kulap Vilaysack  00:29

Our guest he’s an actor. He’s a writer. He’s a comedian. He’s written for Brooklyn Nine Nine Keenan, the Mad TV. You seen him in the Good Place superstore. And he was one of the stars of the NBC sitcom grand crew. He also loves the LA Clippers and he implores you to fight him over it. These are his words. I’m not just saying this, please Add To Cart. The Wonderful, Carl Tart. Carl we wanna know, first off, like, how do you add to cart?


Carl Tart  01:04

I am a Instagram shopper. Mostly, I think biggest shopper


Kulap Vilaysack  01:09

Wow, nobody.


SuChin Pak  01:10

Wow, wow. And not even any hesitation. Not, Carl like you’re just like stating facts. Like your facial expression. You guys can’t see it. It’s just facts. Like he’s just reading ingredients, you know, off of a juice carton. You know, these are things I shop off of Instagram.


Carl Tart  01:30

They get me the ads get me quite easily. I’m in my stories. I’m just looking at people’s stories and I’m swiping through and then all of a sudden some hat pops up that I don’t have. And I go well, I gotta get that. I gotta get that I don’t have that specific hat. I may have 250 other hats, but I don’t have that one.


SuChin Pak  01:49

No. That’s the art of technology. They know about your other 250 but not about this.


Carl Tart  01:55

You don’t got this one now.


SuChin Pak  01:57

Okay. Is it like, late at night? You’re in bed you’re scrolling or are you just constantly adding to cart from Instagram or wherever?


Carl Tart  02:08

All right, let me let me tell you how I do this. And this is embarrassing. I shouldn’t even.


SuChin Pak  02:12

Now we’re getting into the show.


Carl Tart  02:14

Now making me face some things. You make me You make me face some things. We’re gonna get serious. So I am 100% a like I be on Amazon ,I get to it in on Amazon. I am definitely if I got nowhere to go. I am definitely a I got nothing to wear type of do and I’m jumping and I know what’s bad. I know it’s bad. Don’t cancel me. Don’t cancel me America. But I’m a, I’m a Fashion Nova boy. I’m a and they sent me a box one time I sent me a box, pretty cool. Yeah,


Kulap Vilaysack  02:51

Wait I didn’t know Fashion Nova did guys stuff.


SuChin Pak  02:53

I had no idea.


Carl Tart  02:55

Fashion over men. Yeah.


SuChin Pak  02:56

Like what give me give me just like, for example this one time.


Kulap Vilaysack  03:01

I’ve got to assume they’re all if they’re like the women’s clothes, they’re all deep fees. They’re all body con. They’re all.


Carl Tart  03:10

Showing cleavage they go all the way down my belly but no, I definitely would never wear deep V I’m gonna tighten neck boy. tight neck tees I don’t I don’t do the i right now was really big and style is the heavyweight boxy tees which is great for me a large, a large man. It kind of you know, essentially weights what I’ve been working on in the gym, you know, it makes my shoulders look bigger. The arms get get out there. Really love that. And the stacked Jean is big now where it’s kind of like, I don’t want to say bootcut but it is it reminds you of a bootcut Jean, but it kind of bunches up at the bottom over your shoe. That’s a big thing right now.


Kulap Vilaysack  03:52

Wow. I didn’t know Carl was gonna come in with these fashion tips. I didn’t know that the stacked jean.


SuChin Pak  03:57

I mean periods Fashion Week somewhere in the world. Carl knows that.


Carl Tart  04:02

I only have a couple pairs of those. I’m pretty traditional with the jean, as I will say for a person of my size. The skinny jeans and not the super skinny like but like a fitted like skinny your gene is good because people seem to think that if your waist size is above 36 You are a beluga whale or something. And so I like to put on the gene that accentuates my my legs which are thinner on the thinner side. And people go oh, wow. Like okay, y’all are actors. Have you ever gone through the terrible process of giving your sizes to a wardrobe stylist before you show up on set?


SuChin Pak  04:49

Yes. Knowing that it’s not gonna happen.


Kulap Vilaysack  04:51

It’s gonna hurt when I get there.


SuChin Pak  04:53

Yeah, you’re like, I can’t just give you the sizes. I need to write the paragraphs that go along with the size.


Kulap Vilaysack  05:00

Hey friends I do.


SuChin Pak  05:01

Yeah. So I’m top heavy. But yeah, and here’s the reference picture and.


Carl Tart  05:08

I will also bring my own clothes anything that you feel I haven’t have an issue buying. I will bring my own clothes. These are the brands that I liked the most. These are the places that I shop the most. This is where I add to cart if you will. This fashion over ASOS. I’m not Shein guys Shein  is a little bit too fast fashion for me.


Kulap Vilaysack  05:26

But that’s how I feel that way too.


Carl Tart  05:28

Yeah, yes, that’s that that was too fast. I need to slow that fashion down a little bit.


Kulap Vilaysack  05:32

Yeah, that river is too rapid.


Carl Tart  05:35

Our mutual friend John Gabriel gave me a paragraph that he writes because we are of similar bills, whereas we are big guys, but we’re not like these like, you know, huge so big that you can’t find stuff on the shelf for us. Like we’re built like athletes, because we are former athletes who definitely live in the past when it comes to that. And I just.


SuChin Pak  05:58

We know what wait so so because we just had John. So are you are you for the Speedo?


Carl Tart  06:04

Oh, that’s not my that’s not my jam. Because no.


SuChin Pak  06:06

No, because have you seen him in his Speedo? Cool. He loves it.


Carl Tart  06:09

More power to him. I text him every time he posts and I go man, I wish I had that. I wish I had the confidence but you ain’t gonna catch me. You’re gonna catch me out there.


Kulap Vilaysack  06:19

Because John, John did he was a swimmer. He was a lifeguard. Carl used to play football. Yes. So you know that’s different. You know as a different uniform as what I’m trying to say. When I’m illuminate.


Carl Tart  06:33

When I go to the beach I wear shoulder pads.


SuChin Pak  06:40

But I mean I love it. I love the man who just or any person but just like knows what fits knows how to put themselves together but it’s comfortable. And what together Yeah, he is he has 253 hats.


Kulap Vilaysack  06:57

And counting he and he does casual. And then he he also but I’ve seen some great formal looks on him. Some great bold, fitted, tailored looks.


Carl Tart  07:09

Another Add to Cart right there INDOCHINO, I’m promoting all these I should be telling people these brands. They pay me it’s a it’s a suit place that you go, you get you get fitted, they do, they take all your measurements and you pick out the suit that you want. And then it comes to you in about three weeks or so three to six weeks it comes to you. You go pick it up at the store, they refit you and you make the changes to the suit that you want. And then you send it back off and two to three weeks after that. It comes back and it’s ready to go.


SuChin Pak  07:41

Oh it’s like custom tailored suiting.


Carl Tart  07:44

Yes but affordable.


SuChin Pak  07:45

Is it like a store like that you walk into and.


Carl Tart  07:48

They do have Brick -and-mortar stores you can order online if you know your measurements already but that’s ever changing in today’s day and age. So I like to go into the store and pick out the suit that I won’t let them fit me the way I want to the way I want to be fitted and it’s like Christmas Day when when that box comes in.


SuChin Pak  08:06

Like a glove fits like a glove.


Carl Tart  08:07

Yes. And is just for you.


Kulap Vilaysack  08:09

I mean look you are giving us like high level tips here like this is Add to cart to a tee like thank you so much like I’ve never heard of that store. I mean you’re coming in like Paula Tompkins with the suit talk. I love it.


Carl Tart  08:23

I think Paula Tompkins is spending way more money on his suits that I’m spending an INDOCHINO he wears a lot more suits than I do I you know for special occasion. Like I got to save the date for our buddy Kevin Bartelt wedding. That’s coming up next year. I’m gonna hit the INDOCHINO get something get something special for my boys.


Kulap Vilaysack  08:40

Wins show up and show out.


Carl Tart  08:42

Yeah, you got to.


Kulap Vilaysack  08:46

Carl, let’s get into your cart. I’m so excited. All right. You are adding to cart.


SuChin Pak  08:54

I just sorry, I just read it.


Kulap Vilaysack  08:56

Say it, you say it Su. What he’s adding to cart.


SuChin Pak  09:02

Carl is adding to cart. A wedge of Vons grocery store birthday cake and milk.


Carl Tart  09:15



Kulap Vilaysack  09:15

It sounds good. Let’s sounds good.


SuChin Pak  09:18

Start from the beginning. Start from the beginning. I want to know about the discovery. I want to know them the process and then I want to a cream finish. You know what I mean? Walk me through it.


Carl Tart  09:30

Okay, so, Von has got a good bakery, the Von  in Toluca Lake, California.


Kulap Vilaysack  09:37

I used to live in that neighborhood. Very good Vons.


Carl Tart  09:41

So they have a wedge of the cake do they make, and that they put them out in the bakery like little fridge section that you can just reach down and grab and I got different flavors and things like that. Well, let me start even even further away from that. I put a wedge birthday cake in there, because and there’s another cancer worthy take that I had If I don’t like chocolate, it’s not my thing. I’m not I’m not a chocolate. Okay. I’m not a chocolate. I don’t I don’t despise it. I can I can do little chocolate things every now and then. But for the most part, I’m ironically not a big chocolate guy.


SuChin Pak  10:18

I’ve met a few of you. I know. Yeah, I’ve heard tales. You know, there’s other things attached to it. We won’t get into it. But okay, sure.


Carl Tart  10:29

I have always been a vanilla cake and buttercream icing. Funfetti type of guy. If I’m at a buffet, if I’m at hometown buffet, or Texas Roadhouse, whatever and, and I go to the dessert section, I’m getting ice cream with sprinkles. And I’m crumbling up a cone on top of it. That’s like my ideal dessert.


SuChin Pak  10:50

Vanilla ice cream.


Carl Tart  10:51

Yes, ma’am.


Kulap Vilaysack  10:53

Can’t help but give us little insights. He’s given us who’s gonna who’s gonna give us a little little topping crush a little crunchy topping.


SuChin Pak  11:02

No, by the way, custom topping, Carl tart custom topping that I can already sense. This is the whole reason for this show. It’s like getting into someone’s cart, you start to get a vibe for who this creature is. He’s like, he likes the classics. But there’s a twist. There’s some little twist, a little Funfetti thrown in there.


Carl Tart  11:23

So I was back home in Mississippi last week. And me and my dad went to one of my favorite restaurants from childhood, which is called Cajun – Fish & Chicken is a buffet style, kind of like cafeteria style food. And what was so crazy about this place that the interior, the seats, the way the whole day is built has not changed since I was a little boy, that was like this is crazy. Like and the food is still as good as I remember it. And it was a great time to be in there. But they what I used to do when I was a child with my grandma, my mama whenever we went in there, I would, here’s how I fixed this dessert. I take them take the little boat, they give you a little Styrofoam they still use the styrofoam plates and they give you a little Styrofoam Bo and I scooped a layer of sprinkles on the bottom of it. Then put the ice cream on top of that. And then put the other sprinkles on top of ice cream. Then take the cone that they got the you know the classic cone with the two little white kids on the you know, cartoon Yeah. Yes. And I just crushed it up and put it on top there and that’s we in business when that happens. That’s my favorite.


Kulap Vilaysack  12:32

Sorry, chef Carl. This is like this is a deconstructed ice cream cone.


Carl Tart  12:37

Deconstructed. deconstructed. You don’t want to crush it up. See I’m a strong guy now. I when I was little kid, you want to still leave big pieces you don’t want to crush it up to.


SuChin Pak  12:48

Yeah, yeah. You want the texture. Wow. Okay, got it. Yes.


Carl Tart  12:52

But back to Vons. All right.


SuChin Pak  12:53

Let’s go back to Vaughn. So now we’ve got the backstory. Okay, go.


Carl Tart  12:56

Yes. Yes. So they have these cakes out. They got a good carrot cake. But carrot cake. Carrot Cake is good, but it’s a lot you know. I mean, it’s like a lot going on. Like you know you got the the carrot shreds and the raisins and the nuts. The walnuts in there. And the frosting. Yeah, yeah. So it’s like you got to be in the mood for that. But a classic birthday cake. A classic wedge of birthday. I got one of my friends right now went grocery shopping. The classic is the birthday cake with the sprinkle. And it’s got to be buttercream icing. I don’t do that whipped cream stuff.


Kulap Vilaysack  13:31

Too. fluffed to light not substance Okay.


Carl Tart  13:35

Not enough substance in there. Now for those of you who are listening to this being like, I can’t believe this grown ass man is sitting and eating birthday cake. A lot of times I’ll take a couple bites of it and then it’ll go bad in my fridge. I throw it away. But like it’s like a treat. Just like I just I just came home from the club. I’m gonna pour me up a go little glass of milk and just take a couple of bites of this cake. I’m happy birthday so I could have sweet dreams.


SuChin Pak  14:01

Celebrate the birth .


Carl Tart  14:03

Celebrate the birth. Like I’d take a little bit at cakes so I could have sweet right before I go to sleep so I guess sweet dreams you know I mean.


SuChin Pak  14:13

I mean, there’s a book in here. I don’t know what it is yet. Chapter and I know that’s the that’s the last chapter of the book. How to Have yourself a sweet dream.


Kulap Vilaysack  14:25

He takes up the mantle from Steve Harvey and lifestyle book you know how to book.


SuChin Pak  14:31

A self help book.


Carl Tart  14:33

Yes. self self help go and get you 1000 Calorie wedge of cake.


SuChin Pak  14:39

Just getting a few bites of it.


Carl Tart  14:41

Yeah, you just you eat Miss over time. Friends will come over whatever and they look at my snack pantry because as a bachelor who lives alone and who makes my own money. I’m doing it for myself. My mom has a buy my snacks anymore. So I buy what I want to buy. And she comes over and goes why you got all this stuff in here and I go ma, this is my house you can leave.


SuChin Pak  15:02

You would never say that.


Carl Tart  15:09

Am I? Am I? I will never say that out loud.


Kulap Vilaysack  15:20

Okay, Carl let’s talk to us about Air Force One. Are you a collector are you?


Carl Tart  15:27

So I’m a big hat and shoe guy. Those are my two, like treats for my own. I think there’s a lot of treats for myself. Honestly, I say that, but there’s a lot of treats for myself. But those are like my two big things is hats and shoes. And I got a lot.


Kulap Vilaysack  15:43

Book by the way,Treats for myself.


Carl Tart  15:45

Treats for myself, and sweet treats for myself. That doesn’t just involve food, but the Air Force One, I’m always adding a pair of Air Force ones to the cart. Because I think this coincides with one of my removed from carts as well. Okay, a clean white pair of Air Forces goes with everything. Everything you wear, it’s a classic silhouette. The silhouette has been around since 1982. It has never dyed is still rocks to this day. You can have your different colorways you can have your different ones, but that classic all white pair goes with everything.


Kulap Vilaysack  16:21

Yeah, stacked jeans.


Carl Tart  16:23

Stack jeans, skinny jeans, sweats, shorts, speedo, it goes with everything. They gotta be clean. They gotta be gotta be clean.


Kulap Vilaysack  16:32

Okay, so let’s talk about your remove from cart. You’re like, yeah, you’re saying dirty shoes.


Carl Tart  16:37

The dirty shoe thing that the trend has gone on with not just Gen Z. Because there’s some Millennials my age running around with these dirty shoes on too. And they beat the shoes to hell. And they kind of wear that as like a badge of honor to me. And you know, we have our we have our buzzwords of the day. With everything going on right now politically and things like that. But that to me is privilege.


SuChin Pak  17:03

Ah, I was gonna, in my mind, I have an image of someone with dirty shoes, and it does often equate privilege.


Kulap Vilaysack  17:12

Yeah, I’ve seen a pair of Gucci’s that are made to be dirty sneaks so bad to be dirty, made to be dirty. Right.


Carl Tart  17:20

Right. Like when that trend started happening with the designer shoes where they’re coming out with shoes that are already distressed. I said may get this shit out of here. No, no. I had a woman in a bar one time woman explained to me that when your Air Force is a little bit distressed is how you supposed to wear him I said lady if you don’t get out of my face I know you didn’t come up to me and tell me how I’m supposed to wear it told me that my shoes were to clean white shoes so white. But because I keep them clean. Wow, those must be fresh out the box. I’m gonna be random No, they’re not brand new. I’ve had them for a long time. But I don’t wear them into the ground. Also a friend of mine hit me up and she goes hey, I’m thinking about getting a pair of Air Force ones but is that too basic? I said I will block right now. I block you. Is that too basic? And I said you know what’s basic? What’s basic is you’re going to get them and you’re going to wear them into the ground they’re going to be dirty and she goes yeah, but like that’s like how you’re supposed to like that’s what the girls are doing. I said no, it’s wrong is bad. I don’t like it. Stop doing that. Keep your shoes clean. Now there are certain shoe that you can wear that if they get distressed they have a cooler look I’ll give the the Chuck Taylor that privilege if those get a little bit out here and a pair of vans you know they ain’t got to be icy pair of vans ain’t got to be icy.


Kulap Vilaysack  18:42

You know like a frat fry boot a cowboy boots you know?


Carl Tart  18:45



SuChin Pak  18:47

White pair of Air Force ones.


Carl Tart  18:49

Keep them white.


SuChin Pak  18:50

Keep them white.


Kulap Vilaysack  18:51

Well, I gotta ask how are you cleaning them? Are you Jason Markk sing it Do you have your own formula.


Carl Tart  18:51

Keep them white.


Carl Tart  18:57

I added the Jason Markk kit to my Amazon twice because I thought I thought I lost the other one but it just got and.


SuChin Pak  19:03

And it works and it works.


Carl Tart  19:05

It does work. It does work the kid does work. Also you can take them to the brick and mortar down in Little Tokyo. I’ve done both and it’s pretty cheap. Pretty cheap. It’s like 25 bucks and a fully restoring. I got a few pairs I need to take down there myself. I’ll admit I probably spent too much money on shoes. I probably spend too much on Air Forces specifically. Because once the toe box gets creased, like crease beyond repair, and the shoe kind of starts turning that yellowish tint a little bit. I kind of retire like that’s it.


Kulap Vilaysack  19:35

Do you do a ceremony before you retire them do you.


Carl Tart  19:38

Do are saying it’s so hard to say goodbye bye boys to me. And then I’ll take them I’ll take them and donate them. I’ve donate them.


Kulap Vilaysack  19:46

Getting a picture of your apartment right now your place. So how are you storing your shoes? Are you plastic bin? Are you keeping them in the box? Are you Are they bad? Are they just like Bear?


Carl Tart  19:59

I have so I’m in the box. Currently I’m looking at next to my chart I’m in my living room right now. And I have basically my what I’ve made a makeshift end table out of shoe boxes here. That’s just a couple. There’s also some more in the corner over there. I should probably do something about this stuff. But in my shoe room.


SuChin Pak  20:19

Gonna have that up again.


Carl Tart  20:23

In my office, in my play room when I have all my hats and shoes are stored on shelves. Do I want to see a pair? Yeah, I wanna see a pair I haven’t worn Yeah, I do want to see. Yes. So this is the Air Force One low undefeated.


SuChin Pak  20:47

He’s opening up this very glossy box. I don’t know anything about sneakers.


Kulap Vilaysack  20:51

I was just about to say that.


SuChin Pak  20:53

I couldn’t tell you one thing about one sneaker. Oh, that color blocks. Wow. We like a pattern leather.


Adam Smith  21:03

It is this pattern. It is shiny. Turquoise toe box. Brown around the toe box. Black with a pinkish Nike stripe, purple back with a lime green and kind of sea not not seafoam, but like, yeah, even limier green Yeah. Yeah, […]


SuChin Pak  21:24

I wasn’t expecting that. I wasn’t expecting such a, you know, colorful display of joy on a pair of Air Force ones for me like Air Force ones. I’ve seen the white ones. Now I know what they look like I understand what sneaker you’re talking about. And where are you wearing these beautiful colored glossy sneakers to?


Carl Tart  21:46

I haven’t worn those quite, I got them on sale. Because that’s another way I add to cart is when something all they gotta do is send me an email, say something’s on sale. And I go consider it. So.


Kulap Vilaysack  21:59

I accept your invitation. RSVP? Yes.


Carl Tart  22:02

Exactly. Yeah. I haven’t worn those quite yet. But those you know, special occasions. Cool Open Skies holiday party. You know, I’ll probably pull those out with low fit. It’s a special occasion. You know, just to get my foot off, you know, some light, some simple.


SuChin Pak  22:19

So it’s a conversation starter, Carl? Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, it’s a way for, let’s say, a person that wanted to meet, you could just start an easy conversation like, Hey, I liked those sneakers.


Kulap Vilaysack  22:31

Although one person chose violence. That woman who approached Carl at the bar talk.


SuChin Pak  22:37

So, I’m right. I’m giving some advice. I wanted to approach Carl in a in a in a more correct manner.


Kulap Vilaysack  22:44

Yeah. She was nagging. You know, right. Carl. I mean, that’s what it was.


Carl Tart  22:47

She might have been but she nagged wrong. She, it did not work.


SuChin Pak  22:52

There are some lines, Carl doesn’t cross.


Carl Tart  22:53

She came up to me and immediately was like, Those shoes are too clean and say lady, no, not tonight. Not tonight.


Kulap Vilaysack  23:03

Carl, I want to talk about your last thing in your cart, which is being confident and strong.


Carl Tart  23:09

Yes, we are going to add that to our carts. I think we live in a in a world right now, where we are getting, I think confidence is very important. It’s something that I definitely struggled with growing up. And I’ve gotten better at it. And with it over the years. I think if more people had confidence and real confidence, sometimes I read comment sections. And I shouldn’t do that. But it’s it is addictive. And I read the comment sections and people will say something. And then somebody of course will disagree with it in a disrespectful manner, then that person, they’re gonna fight to the death over that. Even if they whatever they said was wrong. They’re not going to be told that they’re wrong. And I’m like, This is what you could argue. Argue with your mama. I’m not gonna it’s like you’re wrong lady. But like, You’re wrong, sir. Like, just be confident yourself. Don’t just too much hateration going on right now, too much hater.


Kulap Vilaysack  23:58

Well, yeah, maybe but you spelled you’re wrong.


Carl Tart  24:02

So yeah. Oh, the grammar police. They really are sitting at home on here. I just did it.


SuChin Pak  24:08

You know, obviously, like, we all work in this business where, you know, I look at my child, I have a son. He’s 11 years old. And just like skating by, you know, always looking for the loophole. But he’s so damn confident. You know, like, confident almost to the point where I’m like, is he like, even lying? You know what I mean? Like, it’s just so confident. And I think to myself, sometimes, if this kid keeps this up, he may become the president of the United States. You don’t even like the confidence. You don’t realize it till you’re older. I think the actual value and weight that confidence has in this society and we work in an industry where these aren’t skills Like, you know, we can’t, we’re not going to survive the apocalypse with what we’ve done with our lives. But if you walk in somewhere into a room with confidence, like the world is yours.


Carl Tart  25:11

Yeah, I fully agree.


SuChin Pak  25:13

Are there tools, tips, things along the way that you’ve learned?


Carl Tart  25:17

I think one of the tools that I’ve learned is cutting out self negating speak, like, speaking poorly on yourself, you know, and that’s hard. That’s the hardest thing because we are our toughest critics. And I think just stopping yourself, when you about to say some mean to yourself, for me, it’s definitely the stop looking in that mirror and saying, You’re bad. Like, what what is happening with you is is wrong, you’re overweight, you’re this, you’re that you can work on yourself. And that’s why I put that that being strong in there too, because I think that’s important, physically and mentally. And as I’ve been working out, this whole year, I’ve been like doing powerlifting, and stuff like that. And, you know, I still live a bachelor’s lifestyle. So the results don’t come overnight. Because I told you all about my snack camp. But it’s I’m going every day and and putting in that work. It’s for me, it’s not about the validation of others, even though sometimes I can’t help but be beholden to that. I think the for me, it’s about constantly telling myself and manifesting for myself, that I am good enough. And I can do this. I’m strong enough. This makes me mentally strong, as well as physically strong. And cutting out the negative speak to yourself is is the big thing to me.


SuChin Pak  26:35

It’s insidious.


Kulap Vilaysack  26:37

Yeah. Yeah. So being sort of like it. Well, no, I mean, in general, sometimes this it comes from, like, let me make fun of me before I before you do. As comedians, Carl, I know you know about that. Oh, yeah. As people of color. Let me cover your bases. So we don’t even have to go through that. Like, let me hit it first. Is a thing.


Carl Tart  27:00

Yeah. Yeah. And that was me in middle school.


Kulap Vilaysack  27:02

Yeah, it was a way to survive. And then we get to our age and go, we don’t worry, we’re in a place where we want to thrive, where we can get cake when we want to get cake and eat it too. Like yeah.


Carl Tart  27:17

I will say also, like, just know that I nobody thinks about you.


Kulap Vilaysack  27:19

And they’re not thinking about you that deep. It’s heartbreaking isn’t it? You were talking about like comments and things on the internet, like most people are just like after they say vile things. They’re stepping away, clocking out, moved on to the next and while you may be stewing and stewing about what was said that person like is trolling somebody else, or being trolled in their own life. i Who knows why they do that.


Carl Tart  27:46

You gotta be being trolled now, like they, it gives them a level of power. I’ve asked a couple of them. You know, you know how, what happens with the podcasts that we do, and I’ll get messages from people? Well, I’ll give you an example. There’s one guy who listened to the basketball podcast, I host and.


Kulap Vilaysack  28:03

The Flagrant Ones.


Carl Tart  28:04

The Flagrant Ones. Yeah. And I talked about a player on there that I don’t like too much. But it’s a comedy basketball podcast, I’m allowed to do that. I don’t have to be unbiased. I’m not a journalist. This guy, I don’t like the way he plays. He’s good. I don’t like it. And so I talked about that a lot. And this dude, was in my DMs for months, and I didn’t see it because it was in a special box. And so finally, one day, I just opened it up and I go, Hey, man, what are you gaining from this? Like, what are you doing? I haven’t seen this. I have not looked at this. I haven’t seen it. What are you gaining from it? I don’t know. Man, you just said something. This guy is one of my favorite players. And you talk so you talk about about him. So it’s like, bro, what does that have to do with me? Like you sending me these messages aren’t going to make him go? Thanks for defending me dude. Like from call whose life really affects mine. He’ll message me sometimes I will reply to something and he’ll say something. Be like, Wow, that’s crazy that that happened on Yeah, man. That’s what you were doing to me. Alright, man, I get it. Like I was like, are we gonna? Are you gonna steal? A Yes, I’m gonna. I’m gonna never let you forget it. I’m gonna never let you forget what you did. Well, I told you I was sorry. That’s not enough. Because you need to know that it’s not right to behave like that. There’s consequences


SuChin Pak  29:14

Of course. I mean, this is the affliction This is the disease that will kill this generation of young people. Today, right will be the disease of the screen. But you actually have the remedy, Carl.


Carl Tart  29:27

What is it?


SuChin Pak  29:27

Its his birthday cake, birthday cake and your, go out in the world just stink it up. But at the end of the day, you piece of birthday cake and sweet dreams. You know what I mean? Like, I joke about it, but in some ways that is very symbolic of it. It’s like take care of yourself. Right at the end of the day, like be mindful after being out in this like toxic environment to come home and, you know, birthday cake.


Carl Tart  29:57

And also drink that cow’s milk cancel me , I don’t care. Oh, , drink that goddamn cow’s milk.


Kulap Vilaysack  30:11

These are good transitions into what you’ve been removing from cart. Carl’s removing from cart people saying wholesome on the internet and crying at basic things.


Carl Tart  30:23

Oh, I’m not crying you’re crying who cut onions? Because, oh, this little kid picked a flower and put it on the puppy’s head, man. This is so wholesome set up set up. What is this? I hate the word wholesome. It is bothering me because it’s like, we look at so much terrible shit on the internet all day long. That people are like, wow, you wouldn’t believe this dog. Walk through a puddle. Oh, wow, I’m not crying. You’re crying man. Shut up, man. Get off the internet.


Kulap Vilaysack  31:01

What about what about? The tiger and the man who saved him when he was a little tiger pup get reunited.


SuChin Pak  31:12

Oh, the reunited and they come in and the tiger remembers. He remembers the big big tiger paw hugs. Oh, God.


Carl Tart  31:26

Late today camera. Turns out that Tiger is like, wow, I’m sizing you up. I’m gonna put you on this grid.


SuChin Pak  31:30

I’m tenderizing you right now.


Carl Tart  31:33

Salt, pepper, garlic.


SuChin Pak  31:36

If you think it’s because we live in a society where we just like, our emotions are all pent up. And we just need any excuse. You know what I mean? Like, it’s almost like, you know, that is the release valve. And it’s as stupid as you know, a puppy with a flower in a puddle.


Carl Tart  31:52

I see videos online all the time that are like, Man, that was cute. That was that was it was nice to see that but you’re not crying? No. And also like, These people aren’t crying either.


Kulap Vilaysack  32:02

I have to break it to our listeners. I’m gonna say 75% of the time. You’re on the group chat or even chatting with your mom. And she writes lol or hits the Ha ha ha. She stone faced.


Carl Tart  32:16

Stone face.


SuChin Pak  32:16

Stone faced


Carl Tart  32:18



SuChin Pak  32:18

I the only genuine person lol Ling and ha Hi. Because when I hit a ha ha. I ha ha before I haha you know what I mean? That’s awesome. Because I’m probably 48 Oh, wait, hold on. There’s one of those for that.


Carl Tart  32:34

There’s different levels. I’ll give you the levels of LoL haha.


Kulap Vilaysack  32:39

Everyone quiet Quiet quiet. Carl’s telling us the different levels of hahaha.


SuChin Pak  32:43

Master class.


Kulap Vilaysack  32:44

Okay, go ahead Carl.


Carl Tart  32:45

Alright. lol in all lowercase. That means I acknowledge what you try to do there. It didn’t move me. But I acknowledged.


SuChin Pak  32:57

Oh, but there’s an acknowledgement.


Carl Tart  32:58

That doesn’t acknowledge me. Yeah, it doesn’t acknowledge that you exist. There is capital lol. That means like.


SuChin Pak  33:06

Like all caps.


Carl Tart  33:07

All caps lol that means I chuckled. It didn’t move me it didn’t move me to my core. But I chuckled.


Kulap Vilaysack  33:14

It was a head laugh. It didn’t hit my diaphragm. It was all in my head. Yeah. Okay.


Carl Tart  33:19

There is all lowercase three. Hahaha was like Ha ha ha. all lowercase. And these are all put together. Of course. There’s no spaces.


SuChin Pak  33:30

Yeah, of course.


Carl Tart  33:32

These are all put together three lowercase. That means all right, I gotta you gotta hide me. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And then there is the all caps. Three plus. Hahaha. All caps. That means I’m over here. laughing I’m over here.


SuChin Pak  33:52

By the way, you guys I wish you could see cuz he’s not laughing.


Carl Tart  33:57

I’m over here.


Kulap Vilaysack  33:59

Again, he’s he’s reading out a juicy juicy green.


SuChin Pak  34:04

Yes, juicy ingredients. He’s like, Oh, yeah, you got Okay, so that’s haha. Okay, what about the haha the haha like little you know how you reply to text and then you get.


Carl Tart  34:16

That right there is I’m acknowledging that’s almost the same as the lowercase. But the conversation is over. Like I’m stopping I’m stopping the conversation at this point. We’re changing some.


Kulap Vilaysack  34:27

[…] tag I will not allow.


Carl Tart  34:31

That.That’s it for that.


SuChin Pak  34:31

Now. What is your take on like voice memos? Is that what they’re called? When you like record into your attack? And then you send it and then the person hears that like a voicemail but it’s it’s in text, right? Like do young people do that? Like is that a thing? And can you give me a little context on that?


Carl Tart  34:50

Well, my youngest a different kind of millennial because I’m a millennial. And currently we are getting roasted online. They will run our ads online. They let us have it. They cook in our as is. And so for us voice notes is, I’m just giving one my improv team, the big team formerly known as white women. We are very active in our group chat and we live active lives. And so when it’s a voice note that pop up, we are all here. We listen, we got because the conversation is usually starting off like a yawn. I go believe this. Yeah, so anyway, I bought like, like, like, Alright, so I’m over here. And usually, sometimes, we will preface it by being like, You’re not gonna believe what just happened to me. And then the Blue Voice Note.


SuChin Pak  35:36

You’re pulling, you’re pulling over Yeah.


Carl Tart  35:39

Yeah, we listen to that. Because because sometimes you’ll play the voicemail in the car, you connect it to the Bluetooth, and you’ll play the voice note. But it ain’t the same level as your music. So you can’t really hear so you gotta go. I gotta, I gotta cut the call and figure out what this is. And you don’t want it to disappear. So you don’t want to hit play. And then they accidentally disappeared before you can hit key. But no, it’s not. It’s not adequate to hit key because what if it’s some some real tea? You know, I’m saying.


Kulap Vilaysack  36:02

Always keep okay.


Carl Tart  36:05

I never seen a you know, Voice Note with some tea.


SuChin Pak  36:10

Because I asked that because sometimes I’m laughing so hard. That no ha ha No. lol No sticker. can do it justice. I’m laughing so hard. I got a voice note it and I got a voicemail and and be like, I’m crying. Listen to my voice. The tears rolling down my face. I’m laughing so hard. You’re such an idiot. I hate you. I love you. What was that? Or whatever it is, you know, like that. For me. A lot of voice notes are like something hit me so deep in our group text that I had to just put my voice to it like nothing else could express it.


Carl Tart  36:48

Okay, so you saying using the voice No, as a reply. To show you some time. You don’t do that. But after a good juicy Voice Note. That’s when you get in the all uppercase ha ha ha ha ha. Because we like and we let people know. And then sometimes you might even get a gift of like somebody passing out.


SuChin Pak  37:05

Yeah. Give is like, that’s like I’m doing work because it was so rewarding. Let me put some work into what you just said.


Carl Tart  37:14

Yeah. I also make my own GIFS. What our group uses the giffy cam quite a bit. It’s just a little button that you can tap when you texted somebody. If I go down here to giffy cam, and this pops up this little camera pops up right here. And then I could just like record myself doing something.


Kulap Vilaysack  37:36

I didn’t know I was available, Carl.


Carl Tart  37:39

I don’t know if it is anymore. It’s hard to find that out. I’m hanging on. I’m hanging on to a by thread.


Kulap Vilaysack  37:43

Okay, I’m gonna start to Yeah, that’s something that I because I send GIFS all the time as a way to communicate. And if I could do my own, well, that’s a game changer for me.


SuChin Pak  37:55

Oh, that that’s an app you downloaded. Got it. We went around the world and time. Like I aged. I rolled back in age.


Kulap Vilaysack  38:09

I only incarnated Okay, before we let Carl go, there’s just one last thing one last thing that he’s removed from cart, and you are done with meat substitutes. You tried it? You say no.


Carl Tart  38:23

Get that. No, no, no.


Kulap Vilaysack  38:25

Your be your say tan. You’re all that.


Carl Tart  38:30

Hitting people up and roasting their choices. Health wise, like I got hit up by a friend yesterday. And I hope she’s not listening to this. And I mean No, no harm by it. But I like to collect candles. I like candles quite a bit. Now the sweet treat is candles. And she has to be ever she goes no turn that candle off. It’s got parabens and, and Phil I go man, I don’t care. We breathe every day. Like, if it’s gonna get me it’s gonna get me. And so when it comes to meat and meat substitutes, give me my carcinogens. I’m putting some meat on that grill. I’m gonna do it. And y’all can all come to my funeral and say I told him so. And I’ll have to live with it.


Kulap Vilaysack  39:11

I’ll be dead at that point.


SuChin Pak  39:12

Yeah, he’s smiling. He’s got a smile on his face.


Kulap Vilaysack  39:15

We’ll be singing end of the road. Putting you you know in a raft made of your Air Force ones.


Carl Tart  39:24



Kulap Vilaysack  39:25

Real Viking funeral


Carl Tart  39:27

And put out stack all my hats on top.


SuChin Pak  39:31

That’s dignity. You know what I mean? That’s, that’s, that’s dignified.


Carl Tart  39:35

But yeah, stop hitting people up saying what’s bad for you. You don’t know people’s lives. Don’t do that. And just because I don’t like meat substitutes, don’t mean you ain’t got to like. And don’t be offended that I don’t like. I’m not offended. You don’t like certain things that I like. I’m not offended by your dirty shoes. I think I’m judging you. But I’m not offended by.


Kulap Vilaysack  39:54

Carl please list all of your podcasts. We’ve got the flagrant ones


Carl Tart  39:59

Yes. Okay, so we got The Flagrant Ones that is a basketball podcast I host with two good buddies of mine, Sean Clements and Hayes Davenport. We talk all things basketball in the season starting back up soon, so please, subscribe, get into this Patreon. This this that’s a Patreon exclusive right there. That’s flagrant ones. And there’s a cool a lot of cool bundles. If you like those guys, you’ll love Hollywood handbook, pro version, all that type of stuff. Also, I host the football podcast. We’re in the middle of football season, and that podcast is called Foozballs and that’s on the public line. But you get bonus content. If you subscribe to the playground, it’s Patreon. But that was hosted by two of my good football buddies Ryan my Harry and Greg glandt to hilarious dudes who love football just as much as I do. And then I got XOXO gossip kings which is my Gossip Girl. Watch slash rewatch podcast host with my best friend Lamar Woods. You’re getting Gossip Girl feedback from to 35 year old black men who that show was written for. From the south to southern middle 30s Black men talking gossip.


SuChin Pak  41:05

And we this is the the original or the rebuild.


Carl Tart  41:08

The original the original. I’ve never seen it. I’ve never seen it. Lamar has seen it. So I’m watching out for spoilers I already got somebody posted a spoiler, and it’s so crazy that that show is 100 years old and people are still posting spoilers from it. I gotta be like, God, if I see if I see anybody pop up from that show. If I see Blake Lively pop up, or watch it goes on because I’m not there yet. We are currently on season five episode 13. And so we almost done we are in the homestretch.


Kulap Vilaysack  41:39

I’ve seen every episode Carl, every episode.


SuChin Pak  41:41

I’ve never seen it. I have to start with this podcast and watch it with you, Carl.


Carl Tart  41:45

Watch it with us. It’s a fun Listen, a lot of people will say that they don’t even watch the show along with us. They just want to hear us talk about it. I don’t know who got some girliest I got theories. One of my favorite bits to do on the show is anytime there’s so few like black people on the show that anytime a black person pops up on the show and like whatever little tiny row because they’re all like black co stars. Like the doctor will see you now. Yeah, Gossip Girl. That’s Gossip Girl that nurses gonna come back. Remember that nurse? Because then there’s gonna come back at the end be like XOXO you know you love me. That’s, that’s that’s called XOXO gossip. You can find that wherever you get your podcast. And I think that’s my last one. You know?


Kulap Vilaysack  42:26

Well, there’s entrepreneur.


Carl Tart  42:28

Oh. I forget about that one every time until Scott texts me and says, Hey, can you do it? Andre Pina were one of them. Like, all right, yeah. But yeah, check out the comedy gaming archives, too. I’m currently ranked number seven in all time with parents. Moving up the list like Lebron James. They thought LeBron was gonna be creamed record, and I probably will not beat Paul atopica who is the Kareem Abdul Jabbar? No Comedy Bang Bang I probably won’t be this record but it’s it feels good to be ranked number seven on the Kobe Bryan of Comedy Bang Bang.


Kulap Vilaysack  43:03

Okay, you heard it here guys. You heard it. This is an exclusive. Wow. Okay. That is all for today. You can find Carl on Instagram at at dammit Carl. Carl, are we did we miss a single thing? Is there anything? I feel like we covered at all. This has been so fun.


Carl Tart  43:21

So much fun. Thank you all so much for having me.


SuChin Pak  43:23

You’re an absolute. It’s just you wisdom. You know this is a master class and just living life.


Kulap Vilaysack  43:29

Well. That’s right. Yes and everything. I think almost everything that Carl uttered will be on our Instagram at Add to Cart pod.


SuChin Pak  43:39

We’ll try.


Kulap Vilaysack  43:40

Show notes. We’ll do our best.


SuChin Pak  43:42

We’ll do our best but I mean, it’s not easy to get a masterclass on a screen like that. You know,


Carl Tart  43:47

Keep your shoes clean.


CREDITS  43:54

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