SuChin’s SU-PRISE Birthday Party!

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Carters, get ready to hide behind the couches and flip on the lights – you’re invited to SuChin’s surprise birthday party! Join us in celebrating Auntie Su as she unwraps her gifts and receives birthday wishes from friends. But that’s not all! She breaks down why this is her rat girl summer, full of scurrying and snacking in Paris. If you’re a fellow rat girl, heed the rat call. Plus, she shares why Mike won’t stop beeping her.

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Jules Bender, Mike Bender, Anna, Speaker 7, SuChin Pak, Speaker 2, Speaker 5, Kulap Vilaysack

Kulap Vilaysack  01:30

Okay, welcome back to another episode of Add To Cart. I’m Kulap Vilaysack.


SuChin Pak  01:36

And I’m SuChin Pak.


Kulap Vilaysack  01:39



SuChin Pak  01:40



Kulap Vilaysack  01:41

Another summer has come and it’s slipping out of our hands.


SuChin Pak  01:44

Oh, yeah. Yeah, it’s in our rear view.


Kulap Vilaysack  01:48

Yeah, yeah, we had the live show. Both of our husbands made another appearance on the pod and of course my favorite Christmas in July.


SuChin Pak  02:00

That’s pretty much the greatest hits here at Add To Cart you know, we got Christmas. and we got both are boosts but I don’t want to let go of summer just yet. And some would say when the kids go back to school, that’s really when my summer begins. Right so what I’m saying is is is summer is my season. I love summer. I love I just I thrive I I get lazier. We’re going to talk about later I get more rat like. And so I want to say summer. We it’s been a great summer, and there’s still a little bit more juicy juice left to squeeze out.


Kulap Vilaysack  02:43

That’s right. There’s still some summer juice left. Yes. There’s still a little bit on the bottle. I’m shaking it. I’m shaking in front of you, Su?


SuChin Pak  02:51

Yeah. And it’s fermented.


Kulap Vilaysack  02:52



SuChin Pak  02:55

Yeah, who knows? Who knows what’s ahead. It could be anything.


Kulap Vilaysack  02:59

It could be. I don’t know. Like like what’s happening today? You know, could could this show be? I don’t know your suprise birthday episode. I mean, I don’t know. I mean, cuz Su, we love you so much. We couldn’t let the special day pass without throwing you an Add to Cart, birthday party. And it’s not just me or the team. But your friends wanted to leave you a little message too and Tiffany is going to play it right now.


SuChin Pak  03:30

Wait, what? No, I’m scared like my stomach hurts.



Happy Happy Birthday. Cichon


Speaker 2  03:38

Happiest birthday to one of my favorite older sister SuChin Pak HBD section.


Anna  03:44

Happy Birthday pants Swedish pants here.


Speaker 5  03:48

SuChin Pak. You are an icon. I always tell you this, but you’re the blueprint. I got into journalism because I saw you. And you allowed me to dream that as a kid from a small town in Colorado Springs like me, could have the audacity to chase his own dreams as a journalist and an entrepreneur.



On Add to Cart about SuChin is her love of full coverage sleeping a tire. hands covered feet cover everything covered. Pretty sure that face might be exposed.



She’s a veritable almanac of information of things. I didn’t know that I needed to know but clearly I did. Things like baby clothes brands like Quincy Mae or the French version of Target mono pre.


Anna  04:35

We may also have been known to drive off from the gas station with our car with the host still stuck and I’m still possibly peeing my pants when I think about it.



But most importantly, I’ll add to cart her spirit. SuChin shows up for the people she loves in so many ways. She will listen for hours on end if you need to vent or if you want advice, she will laugh with you for just as long too.



These are the reasons why I am forever grateful that you’re in my life that you are my forever snack buddy into something I think that you need to add to cart which I found is this Coghlan’s 8236. Salt and pepper shaker. It’s small. Its moisture and spillproof compact. Also very cute. It’s the perfect addition to your purse.


Speaker 7  05:34

I hope you have the best of birthdays. I love you.


Kulap Vilaysack  05:39

Surprise, SuChin!


SuChin Pak  05:42

Wow, me Wow. You know, guys, wow, I let me just rattle off the top things that are to my mind. Number one is I did send to the group chat today. While we were talking about the show. Nobody had mentioned my birthday, which was fine how I wanted it. But I was like, Oh, it may come up. I don’t want anyone to look stupid, especially not my Kuku. You know, I don’t want to be like, oh, you know, it’s my birthday, blah, blah, but it’s no big deal. And then you have a reaction of like, what’s your birthday, you know? And so I was like, I know, she knows it’s my birthday, but she has, it’s fine. It’s so this is all going through. So I’m like, I want to mention it, but I want to give a deal about it. But then if I say that anyway, so this morning, I did say I was like oh, hey, just my birthday. So I’m shocked that you guys put this much effort into it. Thank you so much. Tiffany Keegan and Brian. I know all of those voices. I don’t need to see a single name there in my sleep. And oh my god.


Kulap Vilaysack  06:48

For the listeners. It was Yano Lim.


SuChin Pak  06:52

Yes. That’s my snack, buddy.


Kulap Vilaysack  06:54

And then Tony Yuwell.


Kulap Vilaysack  06:55

That’s right Tony.


Kulap Vilaysack  06:56

And Robert Rave.


SuChin Pak  06:56

Yes. I mean, this is this is the crew. This is the tight knit squad. Yeah, I mean, I’ve been a part of a lot of I’ve recorded birthday wishes. I’ve been at places where birthday wishes were compiled together. And I was like, it’s just I never want that like nope, not for me but that’s nice. Ah, and I cry through all of them. And when when someone asks me for a birthday wish I go all out. And now I’m sitting here on the other side of it.


Kulap Vilaysack  07:34

Do you have it?


SuChin Pak  07:37

I got tears in my eyes and my nose is running.


Kulap Vilaysack  07:39

Oh sweet babies you Su, Carol I put in the add to cart that she recommended for you. And she said that sounds like pretty recently you guys were traveling and had a very bland meal and SuChin Pak comes to the rescue with her purse sault. It in her Mary Poppins like bag she pulls out some purse sault. It probably in an old ziplock too.


SuChin Pak  08:08

It was It wasn’t a ziploc I always have some Celtic salt with me in a little ziplock because I ain’t eatin other people salt. Like I see the salt near sprinklin. And hey, that’s your life. You want dead salt, have dead salt. I want myself alive. And so I like to carry around mineral rich Celtic salt. And I had it in my bag. We were on a trip and staying at a guest house. And that had nothing, you know, and we it was like an impromptu like, Oh, our dinner plans fell through. And so we were like, Okay, we’ll just put some stuff together that was leftover in the fridge. And the whole meal where we’re like, God, if only we had salt, like, that’s the only thing you know, this is pretty good without oil without butter, you know? And then I said, Wait a minute, I have salt and look of both disdain and shock but also delight. You know that thing when you’re with like one of your closest friends, and you still can get them in the gut. Satisfying that is that you’re like, you’re like, and they look at you like, god dammit. You fucking keep me on my toes, bitch. And then I look over it and be like, you ain’t even seen the half of it. You know? And then , love is reignited. Yeah, after 20 years of knowing these damn fools, I can still get them in the gut. And I walked downstairs and ziplock and there was a new person, a new friend in that group. I was sharing this house and he was he was so many questions. And Carol and Annie and I were just sitting there like why is old nuts smoking on my fake Menthol light being like Ask away son, ask away. Your first question may be what kind of salt? Because if it isn’t, then we got to start way back. Many different kinds.


Kulap Vilaysack  10:21

And so who was telling the story about driving away from a gas station with a hose?


SuChin Pak  10:27

That’s my dear dear friend, Anna, Anna and Tony are married. We all call each other pants. I don’t know when that started. She’s Swedish. So she’s Swedish pants. Old pants. You know, it’ll be stinky pants sleepy pants. So that’s, that’s our pants crew. And we went out one day, she was visiting she they live in New York, and she was out here for work. And we got together. And we had spent all day together and I was just so tired. You know, it doesn’t matter if you’re my closest friend or someone I just met. It’s a lot for me to you know, spend with another human being all day. And I’m about to drive home. And I wanted to fill up my gas tank. And then I filled up my gas tank, and then I drove away. And we heard this, like, crazy sound. I thought, oh shit, I hit another car. We stopped the car and turned around. The hose was still in the tank, and I drove off. And we happened. Oh, we fell out of the car. Dying with laughter peeing she I think she did pee her pants. I mean, we were crying so hard. People were like, what what happened and both could not could not get like any breath to explain what happened. You know, and they just went on with their day and we’re still on the ground like rolling like cannot believe that’s how dead and coffin like my brain. Is there a few times that you can recall you’re like, oh, yeah, I really laughed hard. Like, that was a moment that both of us laughed. So hard. When I drove off with the with the gas hose in the in the tank. Anyway, no one’s surprised. Anyone here? No. Oh, good. So we can put that to rest.


Kulap Vilaysack  12:22

Oh, Su what what are we putting to rest your birthday?


SuChin Pak  12:27

We can go ahead and there she is. When she came out. When Wasn’t she pretty? She put on her best Sadie Hawkins gown. We gave her a massage. She danced she laughed. She sipped champagne. And now we must we put we put her back to rest.


Kulap Vilaysack  12:46

We euthanize your birthday? Is that what you’re saying?


SuChin Pak  12:49

We get out the gas mask. We put it on her we zipper into the plastic bag. But body bags once came out of then we gently lay her into the soft earth to be resurrected.


Kulap Vilaysack  13:07

Is my covering by the Office Store at all is he’s not nearly there because I haven’t noticed that there’s a delivery that should have arrived to your house. Of so sweet treats. Alright, so you go get it it’s on top of your mountain valley go get it you go get it.


SuChin Pak  13:26

Pause listeners while I go get my snaps god damn it. You did it again. All right, I got to unzip. I got to unzip the debutante Hold on let me get her fucking plastic bag. I mean, put on the dress. Let me spritz the corsage with some water. My Kuku has gotten me some treats from my favorite bakery in town. Lilac Pâtisserie.


Kulap Vilaysack  14:02

A gluten free, Bakery and Cafe.


SuChin Pak  14:06

I mean, I know that immediately. Everybody is soft. Okay. You heard Lilac Pâtisserie? In Santa Barbara, the Nancy Meyers movie. The montage everything came it’s still there. This is a gorgeous, gorgeous bakery does not look like Oats and Goats. The other gluten free bakery. The fantasy is real here. It’s like a little French bistro. They have like tables, you know that are like have the curly Q legs. You know? And then the thing and they have I often go there to get a gluten free quiche, little lunchtime. Wow. And then I get one of their treats. Oh, but I’ve never had their cake. This is most delicious. It’s the berry cake. So my cake I like Bear Cake.


SuChin Pak  14:07

I hope there’s more than that in the bag.


SuChin Pak  14:16

Oh yeah. And then there’s like something else. A little brownies.


Kulap Vilaysack  15:09

Brownies for the brownies. What else we got here.


SuChin Pak  15:17

A little chocolate covered. What is this macaroon? It’s like a it’s like a chocolate covered back around. I cannot believe that heat because this can’t be out in the heat. This must be immediately refrigerated. It’s gluten free and heat. You know what this man I bring in his fucking dry iced bison. I put on my rubber gloves and I get in there as quick as it comes. You know what I mean? I get that Atlantic salmon. I get in there and I hoisted into the deep freezer less not a morsel of humidity touch his fine lips. And this man just was going to let a gluten free cake. Sit out in one minute of humidity. Thank God that they notified you because it’s still cold. It’s still because this will melt. You’re my favorite. Oh, there she is. She’s dancing. She’s she’s got another flute of champagne.


Kulap Vilaysack  16:29

That’s right. She’s she’s starting to retreat. But wait, wait, there’s no Olara thing. Su, what that’s part one of my gift to you. Now, I want to tell you that part two it will arrive in a couple of days. I did order it in time. They were delayed. Not me. They were delayed and putting it the link in the chat. I have purchased something that I think you’ll enjoy and very theme to your life. From would be known for baby clothing for babies. A lot a lot of sleep or stuff for babies pajamas. Sleep eggs, you know, I’ve purchased for SuChin an adult sleep bag Walker in midnight.


SuChin Pak  17:31

It zips all the way down to my coochie you guys it’s an actual like a baby what you would put a baby in like a sleeper. Yeah, but for grownups.


Kulap Vilaysack  17:43

But for a grown up named SuChin Pak and the details of it and their description is we’re giving the phrase sleep like a baby new meaning with the special sleep bag designed for adults. Crafted with the same bamboo rayon you love for your littles this sleep bag Walker’s the cozy sleep wear of your dreams silky soft with a relaxed fit. This wearable blanket is perfect for lounging on cold nights and when you need an extra layer for warmth when camping or perhaps when driving in a van from Park to park.


SuChin Pak  18:20

And it has pockets.


Kulap Vilaysack  18:21

As ribbed ankle cuffs Su, you can put your darn tufts even over there for extra protection. A protective zipper garage.


SuChin Pak  18:32

Now did you do a search for with a sleep sack adult you know zipper you’re in van or did this just pop up on your feed? Because you’re always on the lookout for things like this with me like what was it? I’m just curious.


Kulap Vilaysack  18:52

First of all, I was I buy stuff there for Emerald and who knew that a place that I buy things for Eme. I can also buy things for Su.


SuChin Pak  19:01

I mean I didn’t.


Kulap Vilaysack  19:02

And by the way, like the pajamas and sleep bags from Kai baby are top notch folks so you know Su this is gonna feel real good. And it’s so it’s sleeveless but of course you’ll wear your mockneck turtleneck long sleeve underneath and then you know when it’s wintertime it’ll be whatever wool or cashmere sweater and Su you need to take it out to drop soia off. Why don’t you pop with your bibs. pop one of your Amazon bibs underneath this adult sleeping bag Walker. Head out.


SuChin Pak  19:39

I mean people will say what avant garde Japanese artist is living amongst us. Is this the dots lady? Bought a house in Santa Barbara. Is her infinity exhibit around the corner. Okay. Okay, Santa Barbara, I raise you up. Okay, and and, and I’m waiting for my thank you, um, all these things are true. And all these things can and will be done in due time in due time.


Kulap Vilaysack  20:15

Once it arrives. So once it arrives.


SuChin Pak  20:17

Once it arrives I once again, as I said in our group chat, when it was just birthday wishes on chats and I thought that would be the end of it. I said I feel both seen what did I say?


Kulap Vilaysack  20:34

Both seen and appalled.


SuChin Pak  20:36

Yes, Yes. appalled Yes. Appalled. Appalled. Because, yeah, you guys know me know me really well. And, and the listeners know me really well. These are things that make me happy and vomitus as I go out in the world, and sometimes I encounter some listeners, and they recount some things I’ve said on this podcast and I’m both seen and appalled.


Speaker 7  21:22

SuChin Happy birthday, we send you lots of love and hope you have a great day from Greg, Daniel, Lily, Noah and Colton. Love You bye.


Kulap Vilaysack  23:08

Su, it is your birthday so I will let you talk as well and I want you to explain you know rat girl summer because you sent this to me and basically wrote it me and I have never heard of it before I heard we’ve heard you know hot girl summer I’ve heard hot labor summer I’ve heard tomato girl summer I’ve heard this but rat girl summer that completely I missed it completely.


SuChin Pak  23:51

I mean, you know sometimes your scroll on that damn thing. And most of it’s just like next, next next and then you come across something that is written for an audience of one and that’s how I felt. I was like, huh, like how can this be a thing so I sent it to you being like it me in the Washington Post I mean of esteem and clout. Okay, wrote a feature titled it’s rat girl summer, grab a snack. It is quite alarming. That rat summer and snack are in a headline, and other people can relate.


Kulap Vilaysack  24:35

Yeah. If we were like, you know, you know, there’s like, word clouds and stuff. Like basically, this is your word cloud. Like it’s everything. All your favorite things.


SuChin Pak  24:48

And it’s the writer and content creator Lola Kolade introduced this concept, okay, and people are loving it 25 million times. It’s been shared. right so it’s called not hot girl summer it’s called Rat girl summer grab a snack when the first word on the first slide to describe what this rat girl summer is is Scurry. Before I went on I said let me forward this to Ku. I was like you need it should just say scurry periods.


Kulap Vilaysack  25:24

Glory to Apollo for say ratatouille.


SuChin Pak  25:31

So now I will be banned it is my goal to be banned. I both loathe and love that God damn city, because she will not have me and so I fucking I will have her or she will have to excommunicate me from the lands. So okay, one of the slides says scurry around the streets at all hours of the night. Check. Snack to your heart’s delight. Check check. Go places you have no business going to.


Kulap Vilaysack  26:10

City of lights.


SuChin Pak  26:13

It’s right girls. Why am I in Paris? I don’t eat at restaurants. No, I don’t hear about the museum. Don’t care about your wine. Don’t lavender makes me ill. What? Wait, what champagne can’t drink it bitch. Just go to the the next blue luxury and get my breakfast lunch and dinner there.


Kulap Vilaysack  26:40

All the same to me.


SuChin Pak  26:43

Like the offense when you go into a French bakery at eight o’clock in the morning and say do you have ham and cheese baguettes yet? And they’re like.. And I’m like jambon-beurre, jambon-beurre. jambon-beurre. And they’re like No, it is not time for jambon-beurre. I’m like I have to get my jambon-beurre now because I don’t have time to stop.


Kulap Vilaysack  27:13

Okay, so jambon-beurre.


SuChin Pak  27:14

Okay, get most places don’t have that ready till around 11am Okay, so just so no hot tip for your for all my rat gals out there.


Kulap Vilaysack  27:23

Yeah, and that time she’s on her lime bike. Go ahead and did it to do today they did they did a prank what is the Wizard of Oz theme song for when the wicked witch is on her bike.


SuChin Pak  27:35

Yeah, that’s it. Play that play that. I don’t want to say that our Carters don’t support me because they do know of course. I do feel like though that the more vocal ones maybe are in the corner of coup and Zook. And that’s fine. It’s not like I don’t want them to be in the corner of that but I feel like my rat girls we scurry in the dark we don’t have time to post we don’t have time to comment.


Kulap Vilaysack  28:02

I forwarded you a listeners message that very much felt seen with your ziplock bags and your your your manic anxiety What did How do you pack again?


SuChin Pak  28:15

Manic fueled scarcity minded something or other? I don’t know.


Kulap Vilaysack  28:19

Yeah, yeah. So you you living out loud as you do as a rat stepping in the light ever so briefly, helps people feel not alone.


SuChin Pak  28:31

But the thing is, us rat girls know we’re not alone. That’s the thing we know. Because we see each other in the dark. We bump into each other every now and then like rat girl. And so I know that the rat girls are out there. I when I speak I speak with confidence and with the ambassadorship of a league of rats, probably every that you’ve three rats to every human. Have you are out there.


Kulap Vilaysack  28:56

Sure, sure. But you do have to be careful not to become a Rat King. What’s that? Oh, yeah, that’s when there’s so many rats together that their tails become entangled, and enmeshed and they have to eat each other.


SuChin Pak  29:09

That time will also come.


Kulap Vilaysack  29:11

Let’s go over the rules of rat girl summer according to the Creator Lola Kolade. Spend most of your time out of your home. Right? So when we’re talking home, we mean the dark, dank hostel that SuChin nanny are staying at?


SuChin Pak  29:26

Correct. bargain bins.


Kulap Vilaysack  29:30

Eat food that gives you energy to cause mayhem. I think we covered that with a jambon-beurre.


SuChin Pak  29:37

Listen, jambon-beurre. You know, I love a yogurt and a glass container. And that’ll give you when I tell you that it’ll give you the kind of energy to lift concrete pillars and smash them to the ground in the in the middle of Versailles. Get you a French yogurt in a glass As container, not a plastic one, those have different energy levels. It’s the glass container.


Kulap Vilaysack  30:05

If only Maria Antoinette had those yogurts.


SuChin Pak  30:09

She didn’t she didn’t know that, but science has moved on.


Kulap Vilaysack  30:13

That’s true. Yeah. Let yourself be ruled by whimsy rather than embarrassment. Yeah, I don’t I don’t sense a lick of embarrassment in this the record that I’m looking at across the zoom. Not a lick. Not a trace is not for no shame. No, sorry. No, but Su the last the rule that I don’t know is yours. I don’t know if you clear this last rule. Don’t overthink, you tend to overthink.


SuChin Pak  30:41

Yeah, yeah, I could make some amendments. Let me let me just say to this, I’ll have to reach out to Lola myself. And I would argue that these rat girls aren’t as careless they’re not carefree. You know, and that’s not what a rat is. Like, think about when you think about a rat. You know, it’s always like gotta get gotta get gotta get gotta go. Gotta get gotta get you don’t I mean? viver like, they’re survivors. They’re schemers. They always know the routes in and out. You know that. So I believe that takes amount a certain amount of thinking and I would say overthinking we are not free creatures. We are not creatures of the light. We are not creatures of the wind. Okay. We are creatures of the corners of the night of the cracks of the holes.


Kulap Vilaysack  31:36

The titles, the caves, the crevasses.


SuChin Pak  31:39

No, we look at the hummingbird. And we marvel but also we cannot relate.


Kulap Vilaysack  31:46

Wow, yeah, gosh, you are rat girl. There’s no.


SuChin Pak  31:50

Should I get this tattooed?


Kulap Vilaysack  31:53

Where Where would it go Su?


SuChin Pak  31:57

Obviously on my chest I can see it. Yeah, dirty stinky sleepy sack.


Kulap Vilaysack  32:07

Be like how Rihanna has one like under her boob carriage like I was.


SuChin Pak  32:28

Just laying there.


Kulap Vilaysack  32:34



SuChin Pak  32:36

And I can work.


SuChin Pak  32:56

And SuChin it’s your birthday. It makes a lot of sense that you’ve added to cart this continuous glucose monitor.


SuChin Pak  33:30

So it is my birthday. I’m staring down the barrel of 75. And the crosshairs in the crosshairs.


Kulap Vilaysack  33:39

Really long gun like that. Beyond that.


SuChin Pak  33:42

You mind your own gun. Okay, my gun my freedom in the crosshairs of my gun is 75 and she’s there and so what does a loving husband get? His beloved his James who is air.


Kulap Vilaysack  34:00

His paramore.


SuChin Pak  34:02

His Paramore the crackle to his fire a continuous glucose monitor. On my fucking birthday Okay, I’m back. Okay, this demented fool. I mean, maybe it’s coming later, maybe a an expensive handbag or a masseur says coming to the house later. I highly doubt it. This man in honor of my birthday, pinned me down in the room pinned me down and I thought oh God, is he going to ask something of me I shall not give at this moment. No. He lifted my arm in an aggressive manner. And he is stuck this thing in my arm.


Kulap Vilaysack  35:00



SuChin Pak  35:00

Now he.


Kulap Vilaysack  35:01

Thought, Okay, I’ve done this in the past. Like that’s a needle. It says, A fixes when you have a sensor, and correct.


SuChin Pak  35:10

The man pierced my skin he, okay. And now mind you, he has been saying I need to monitor your glucose. Now why would any husband need to monitor their partner’s glucose? Like only this man? That’s the juice that’s in his pants, right? And I was like, Absolutely not. I’m starting antibiotics. But but but there’s all these reasons you have to put this on. And so he put this thing on me. And for those that don’t know, it’s, what is it? It’s like a little device. And it has a needle on the end of it. Yeah. And you pierce it into your skin. So it has to hit blood, right? Because it’s what it is. It’s monitoring your bloodstream for glucose and insulin. This is not uncommon for a lot of folks with diabetes, pre diabetic, like this is something that has been going on forever. But it has now reached the masses, the body hackers, the biohackers all of the Tim Ferriss types of the world are wearing glucose monitors, Mike has been wearing a glucose monitor for I don’t know how long, the most annoying thing, everything he does is BB BB. That’s the sound it makes when you check your glucose monitor and you put your phone up to it so it can read it. And I just look at him and I think what a waste of a life. Really like we have so few hours. And while I’m in here scurrying for discount children’s clothing, you’re out there fucking beeping at every heel beep before this beep is like a like an eight ball. Should I go on a walk BB? No. blood sugar’s low. Can’t go on a walk. You know, should I have a snack? Beep beep not yet. Should I drive BB kind of low. And so this glucose monitor. I don’t think it’s supposed to be used like this. Here he is. Making every decision in his life is preceded by a monitoring of glucose now. Wow. So the Add To Cart for those obviously, there’s the diabetis and pre diabetic. Those folks are in one corner. So I Yeah, so I want to talk about why this can be helpful. So this is what the glucose SCOTUS, that’s another Add to Cart. That’s a book that you have that you should definitely read. But I can pretty much tell you exactly what she’s going to tell you.


SuChin Pak  35:37

Yep, the glucose goddess method. I also follow her on Instagram. And my cardiologist was like get the book.


SuChin Pak  37:56

This is like science backed tons of doctors and researchers and folks that know what they’re talking about really support the glucose goddess and kind of how she’s been able to really talk about glucose blood sugar levels in a way that makes sense to just the average person, you know, and certainly someone that has never dealt with diabetes. Because if you have then you know about all these kinds of issues like what blood sugar and insulin levels do to you. So she says if you don’t have type two diabetes, science shows that balancing your glucose levels can help cravings, constant hunger, fatigue, brain fog, hormonal infertility issues, skin conditions, wrinkles, poor sleep, menopause, mental health and immune system issues. And then avoiding these spikes also reduce inflammation. And so that’s kind of like the overall picture of it. Right? So now you understand outside of the diabetes, just for anyone why the spikes in? You know, we were like we always say like, oh, I’m hangry being hangry. Right, having a blood sugar drop is not cute over time. Over time. This huge fluctuation in your blood sugar levels, wreaks terrible havoc in your body. It causes inflammation. It can mutate our DNA, it releases free radicals. It leads to oxidative stress. All of these things are things that we all as we get older, you know how like when you’re younger, you’re like, Oh, I forgot to eat. You know, or like I’m hangry ha ha ha Let’s give her a bagel. Tiffany. Ah, yeah. Tiffany, you know, we love you. We both we both want to take the cream and put it on our face.


Kulap Vilaysack  39:49

Oh, yeah. her have her blood.


SuChin Pak  39:52

Blood. Yeah, I was gonna go there, but I thought that could be HR flag.


Kulap Vilaysack  39:57

Crap. Well, it’s too late.


SuChin Pak  39:59

Yeah. But Tiffany she knows us. She loves it. She’s sending by the way, an emoji that’s laughing so I say consent anyway. So.


Kulap Vilaysack  40:06

But it’s sweating though. It’s laughing and sweating at the same time.


SuChin Pak  40:10

Yeah, you’re right. You’re right. Oh god, now we’re back in the office. Listen, Auntie’s no thrive in an HR. You know, field. We exist in a different place. Not different time in a different time.I wouldn’t say we’re not not not toxic. But there’s some level of.


Kulap Vilaysack  40:33

It’s it’s lowercase, but it’s underlined.


SuChin Pak  40:38

Not italicized. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not aggressive like that. It’s more of like a, like a side nod. So as when you’re younger, you’re dealing with that blah, blah. And that’s cute and funny. And you have a pizza and a bagel and you deal with it. But as you get older, all of that damage from spiking your glucose levels, has created lots of problems. And for me, I was interested in this because I’m always hungry. I’m always snacking. I’m always crashing every time I eat. I have to take a nap. I’m so tired. Food does not give me energy, and I’ve always been this way. And then sleep, obviously. So he’s just been harping harping. So on my birthday, he decided, I’m going to nail this girl down and put a glucose monitor now. Yes, the add to cart add to cart. You guys can learn from it. I’m not a doctor. Figure it out yourself. You’re adults here, the Remove from cart is while I have a continuous glucose monitor on my arm. I also have a continuous mic monitor. Woof woof stuff.


Kulap Vilaysack  41:51

This hard.


SuChin Pak  41:53

Am I going to rip this thing off of my arm. Can I rip it out?  I can rip it out. Yes, of course. Yeah. I don’t know that I’m going to get through the day.


Kulap Vilaysack  42:02

Yeah, because it’s a weekly just so you know, the things weekly. And then you put another one on.


SuChin Pak  42:07

A week of this. I don’t know, I can maybe maybe I’m intrigued enough. I’m curious enough as a one time journalist to be like, Oh, this is information I’m interested in in new information for like a day or two , but what he’s doing, I’m gonna rip this thing out as soon as before the day is out?


Kulap Vilaysack  42:30

I think so. I mean, you you want to be autonomous. You want freedom. This is the opposite. What you’re describing is the opposite.


SuChin Pak  42:37

And this man is beeping me without my consent. He’s just beeping me right and left. I’ll be standing there. He’ll take my phone up. And I Excuse me, I did not want to be beeped. I don’t want to know what glucose levels are. He’s like, Oh, look slow. Mm hmm. So for example, this morning, I had my normal toast and he said, Can I make a suggestion on my birthday. And so he made me eat the sludge that he eats. And then he beat me. And he said, look, look at your glucose levels. That’s not spiking. Ah, and now when I go away, like, you know, I went for a walk. And he wasn’t there. And guess what? I can do what I damn well want. I’m a rat. And he came back and he beat me. For what? Because he wanted to know what I was doing. And he said, Oh, this is really good. You sustained your glucose level? What did you do? No, no, dude, don’t ask me what I did. Don’t ask me questions. I don’t need for you to tell me that I need to go on walks more often. Please don’t Don’t do this. So. So we’ll see. We’ll see as I as I approach 75 If I want to live with a continuous Mike monitor. And the thing is, is I’ve never seen such a twinkle in his eye. I haven’t seen that since pre COVID as he likes to call it a pep in his step. Now I’m not going to tell you what that is. It’s a whole other episode. He once said that to me in a very derisive way. So we laugh about it when someone is gaining excitement at someone else’s expense. And we say Ah, look at that pep in your step.


Kulap Vilaysack  44:29

Ah, oh, it’s weaponized.


SuChin Pak  44:32

Oh, yeah. And everything is weaponized. That’s our love language. That’s our love language.


Kulap Vilaysack  44:36

I’m beginning to understand that I really am wrapping my head around that.


SuChin Pak  44:41

And what I will say is I will rip this thing out of my arm. If you say one thing as I shove this cake into my mouth with no fork, like a pizza slice, and you know what? He will be silent. Do you know why?


Kulap Vilaysack  44:57

He wants to keep that pap.


SuChin Pak  44:59

He this PEP, he hasn’t had this pep since probably 2012 when he had his last slice of pizza.


Kulap Vilaysack  45:10

A pepperoni slice. Yeah, pep in that slice. If there’s no path, there’s no step. Su, I want to thank all of your friends who left us messages.


SuChin Pak  45:21



Kulap Vilaysack  45:22

Now there’s gonna be people in your lives who that’d be like, Why wasn’t I included? Well, a couple of reasons. Perhaps you didn’t respond to Tiffany or producer. Or it could be because Mike Bender will writing us a list of possible people to ask CC to portion of them and painted us into a wonderful and perfect corner. me throwing Mike under the bus. Speaking of your home husband, we do have a message from him that will play right now.


Mike Bender  45:48

Hi, this is Mike Bender, I’m leaving this message for SuChin who happens to be my wife, I was thinking a lot about what I would add to cart for SuChin . And there was one thing that came to mind SuChin and I have a tradition. I don’t know where this started. I don’t know why this started. I don’t know how this started. But we will wrestle each other. And the the winner of this wrestling match, you win by pulling the other person’s pants all the way down, and my children have come to come to love this. Like if they hear that we are engaged in one of our wrestling matches, they will actually run in. And oftentimes they help her and they pull my pants down, which I think is unfair. Because the thing is SuChin is really good. Like I can’t beat her at this. And I always end up with my pants at my ankles. And when I say my pants, I did everything. I’m like naked sometimes it’s been out in the front yard, where she passes me. And I’m just like, on the ground, half naked. You know, with neighbors walking around. So I wish her the happiest of birthdays. I love her very much. I guess all I can say is I’m coming for you. Because you have you have taken my pants down so many times that I would just watch your back here. Oh, and I know SuChin would totally support me taking this opportunity to say hello to Jason and Jess. You guys. How are you? Can you believe we all went to Middlebury Oh my god. Anyway, happy birthday to SuChin . But mostly Hello Jason and Jess.


SuChin Pak  47:35

He’s, I mean, he just embarrassing himself. like, Ah, god. I mean, the whole thing was embarrassing. I would never have I would never have shared with you guys that we do this because he’s never pants to me. And when I pants him. I’m talking about every layer off. I’m talking about sun with the sun don’t shine. I’m talking about dark raisins. I’m talking about shriveled walnuts. I’m talking about. I mean, if you can’t get to it fast, and I’m talking about hot dog out in the sun flapping in the wind. And Jason and just I hope that you have you told them how obsessive he is about getting the acknowledgment. Please don’t. Please don’t. I will they may meet one day when we’re at dinner at your house and I don’t I love him so much. I don’t want him to be embarrassed and I want him to pretend that he’s coming up with it on the fly in person rather than palling at them for for this whole year for their acknowledgement. But yeah, it’s an interesting add to cart that Mike has brought. It’s quite a gift for me, because it’s not at my expense. I win those wrestling matches, but it gets aggressive.


Kulap Vilaysack  48:58

That closes out SuChin’s suprise birthday extravaganza. You can find all of the birthday ATC on our Instagram at Add to Cart pod. And please stay tuned after the credits to hear one last special birthday wish for SuChin.


CREDITS  49:20

Well that’s it there’s more add to cart with Lemonada Premium subscribers get exclusive access to bonus content like where we give you an unfiltered look at the actual last thing we bought subscribe now in Apple podcasts. There’s more ADD TO CART with Lemonada Premium. Subscribers get exclusive access to bonus content like where we tell you about the last item we bought or returned and why. Subscribe now in Apple podcasts. Add To Cart is a production of Lemonada Media. Our producers are Kegan Zema and Tiffany Bouy. Brian Castillo is our engineer. Theme music is by Wasahhbii and produced by La Made It and Oh So Familiar with additional music by APM music. Executive producers or Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak, Jessica Cordova Kramer, and Stephanie Wittels Wachs. Be sure to check out all the items we mentioned today on our Instagram at @AddToCartPod. Follow Add to Cart wherever you get your podcasts or listen at free on Amazon music with your Prime membership.

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