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Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak

SuChin Pak  00:10

Hello, hello kittens. Welcome to another episode of ADD TO CART. This is a show about the things we buy the things you buy into what we’re getting into these days, what things are happening in our lives and what it says about who we are. I am Auntie Su.

Kulap Vilaysack  00:28

And I’m Kulap Vilaysack. SuChin Pak, this is what we call a very special episode.

SuChin Pak  00:36

It might can a face break from smiling too hard, because it hurts. I have very tight already. TMJ but..

Kulap Vilaysack  00:45

You know what to do you get that Lanshin tool out. And if you need to take five right now filled up with hot water, put a little spray on your face.

SuChin Pak  00:55

A little oil and a face break from smiling. I don’t know anyway, it’s not about me.

Kulap Vilaysack  01:02

Well, it’s not about you. We are here together. Sue I have some news to share. But before I tell you where I’m at, as you said in our intro, I have to share with our listeners where I’ve been. Because Su, you know that I am a professional storyteller as it were.

SuChin Pak  01:25

Kegan if we can have just some storytelling music. Yeah, just to really set the mood. Yeah, now the tone you guys are going to you guys hopefully are listening. You know, with over the ear headphones for full effect. And we’ll pause here so you can run and get that Sure. It’s a story time kids this is story time episode is gonna be a lot here. A lot of emotion.

Kulap Vilaysack  01:51

A lot of emotion. This is good to prepare the listeners. Now Su and our dear Claire bear know that me and my sweet booboo, Scott and I. Well, we’ve been trying to have a baby for years. Yes. And here we go. Shifting gears. Follow me as I shift gear.

SuChin Pak  02:20

It may be a musical change. It may be just a stop, you know, just a full stop.

Kulap Vilaysack  02:25

Yeah, yeah, we don’t know. I don’t know. But, so, okay, change in tone. You guys hear the smile in my voice. But I do want to tell you a little bit about my background about trying to have a baby. So my first miscarriage was when I was 34. And over the years I have endured six total.

SuChin Pak  02:50

I did not know that. Oh, yeah, six I did not know that number is very shocking. That’s crazy. What a champ. Persistent. But I mean, wow. Because you know, we’re made of different stuff. But that’s a lot to endure.

Kulap Vilaysack  03:28

SuChin you’re very strong. You are, so I’ve done multiple rounds of IVF countless shots have been administered gallantly by my Scott, my soft underbelly remains scarred. I mean, it was just, Su, multiple shots like a I’m so sick of needles.

SuChin Pak  03:56

And I seen some of that stuff in person with friends on you know, people’s social media accounts when they post those are big needles. And they bruise, I mean that looks it’s not like a tiny thin..

Kulap Vilaysack  04:14

There’s some in the regimen where the liquid stings you know and poor Scott like you’re paying all this money and these two idiots we’ve got to figure out the science experiment where we have to plunge liquid and put it into powder. Shake that up. Make sure there isn’t bubbles in it. Like this poor man has had to do so many concoctions and then he’d have to stab me over and over again. Yeah, it’s rough, tough stuff. Rough tough stuff. I’ve done multiple retrievals and transfers and procedures to correct my formerly heart shaped uterus, that which led to my uterine lining beings. scarred. And then after my last egg retrieval, none of our embryos tested viable. And so from an earlier retrieval, we had one embryo left. And so after much research conversations hand wringing major soul searching, I have been brought to my knees. So many times I’ve had to surrender. So many times, we decided to explore surrogacy. And so I’m abbreviating a lot. But at the time of this recording, our baby girl is 36 weeks and two days, and we are expecting her very soon. So happy news. The happiest, the happiest news. Oh, it’s been quite a ride. Yeah, I went through it.

SuChin Pak  06:01

I mean, one embryo left. Truly moonshot. And I remember when we had discussed this on the pod before, you know, your attitude, and it was the right attitude, and the attitude of someone who has learned about grieving and loss and letting go and then finding the light around the corner again, and again and again, was listen, if it happens, it happens. It’s great.

Kulap Vilaysack  06:34

If it doesn’t happen, it’s also great. You know, you have to be in that spot. Right. And so you were there. I mean, I think it was more like it was that and just knowing that there had to be an end, like, I could not continue on, on this ride anymore. Like, it’s just, you know, that we ain’t getting younger, I had enough in my tank for this.

SuChin Pak  07:03

Yes, this one last shot. And so just like knowing that to just like the surrender, and also the peace with the outcome, which I, you know, think for so many years. You know, that’s not where you guys were, you know, you were on that track. And so, here it was, you let it go, surrendering to what you’ve learned, surrendering to the wisdom of the universe.

Kulap Vilaysack  07:34

There she is. And I will tell you, if I’m being honest, honest, the amount of surrendering that I have done, and I know all you parents out there gonna say just wait till up, you’re in for more. I’ve hated it. I’ve hated it.

SuChin Pak  07:51

I’ve had to do it. And I’ve hated it. Kicking and screaming.

Kulap Vilaysack  07:56

It’s just like, for a person who manifests and gets things done. I like action. If there’s something to produce, yeah, problem solving. I’m not saying that I didn’t, can still do that. But the this is like, this is like, it has challenged me in so many ways is pushed me to my absolute limits. Absolute limits, and it’s like, interest things that I can’t, I literally couldn’t produce, you know what I mean? Like, it’s, oh, man, you know, I thought the hardest thing in my life would be to find my dad. And then fuck. It’s so fucking hard. And so this entire time when she’s been, you know, been a cook in in our wonderful gestational carrier. It’s just been. It’s just been, just having to have faith. Every month.

SuChin Pak  09:15

No, I think you’ve had to kind of swim in the shallows just to survive, you know, because you can’t sit in this, you know, for long periods. I mean, it just, it’s too much. But she’s here and it’s so close, that it’s only natural that you’re dropping into this, which is all that stuff. All those years. And still the fear and still the fear. I mean, everyone knows who’s ever expecting a child in any way shape or form until that thing is in your arms. You know, there’s just fear.

Kulap Vilaysack  10:11

Yeah, a week ago, I was like, I’ve been setting up the nursery and but there’s certain things that. I’m just being totally open about this. Like, there’s certain things and I’m like, well, maybe I should wait. Like if she doesn’t come, I’ll have to return it like, and, like I talked to my therapist about it just like certain stuff because I’m like, a bot but like, okay, okay, I was supposed to get the, the stroller and the BBC. And we’re a little late. okay, well, I’ll go get it now. And I’m like, What’s your return policy? 30 days unopened? Okay, okay, well, hold off. Like, there’s just still a part of me that is like, you know, so frightened because things can happen that are out of our control.

SuChin Pak  11:10

That’s right. I mean, but if you’re a mom, you’re already a mom. And so love it or hate it. This is it. Buckle in girl. Cuz, I mean, nothing’s more tenuous than this time. In terms of just like, literally life and death in that way. As soon as you have her in your arms, some things will fade. But like that feeling. You know, I remember that first year. I also think and I’m curious to know how you’ve been during the pregnancy. But both my pregnancies I was like, I wasn’t on this planet. Every time I would zone in on an emotion or a thought or fear, something, it was so big, that I couldn’t hold on to it. And so the only way I survived my pregnancies was just to be completely detached from the process. I don’t remember my pregnancies at all. And so I think part of that is this survival, this fear, and, you know, we come from, you know, different traumas, but trauma in our childhood, as do so many. And I feel like this stuff just like, pushes those buttons so hard that I have to just like, part of me just has to, like, die. You know what I mean? Like, I have to just, like, kill that part for me to just get through to the other side.

Kulap Vilaysack  12:47

I think it’s like, okay, well, like six months happens, like okay, well, I think this is gonna, this is gonna happen. Yeah, yeah. But even, like, seven months, right? What this is all right, well, this is like, likely gonna happen. And I joke around. You know, Scott isn’t joke like I do about it. But I’m like, I feel like we’re just two dads over here. Just like he and I both, I think got in a mode of like, okay, well, let’s prep for when she’s coming. Like we got to just, get a lot of stuff done. Put irons in the fire for afterwards because, you know, we’ll have maternity and paternity leave. And yeah, yeah. And then, but then it’s like, oh, wait, no, she’s really coming. And we have not like, and again, this was last week. I was saying like, Scott and I haven’t actually talked about how long will be not podcasting, which really is our work is like, yeah, how long were we haven’t like, all that ever wrapped our heads around? Like, what? What’s gonna happen? When it’s just the three of us and like, we are you don’t know.  Like, I, in now. I haven’t read a single book. I haven’t.

Kulap Vilaysack  14:30

It’s trust, I’m having nightmares.

SuChin Pak  14:34

Trust that at worst, you’re gonna have help and support your families coming in. And all of that. Yeah, like books. I never read a single book. I mean, you don’t have to do with the way we’re doing it. Like, by all means, but it can be done without books. Because I do have them. Without books.

Kulap Vilaysack  14:51

Yeah, like it. Yeah, it’s hard. It’s hard to prepare for something you’ve been holding your breath for so long, you know? Yeah. And it helps to have like, checklists like Yeah, I think that that’s good that part’s good but I wanted to share you know it’s obviously add to cart baby and I have a diaper bag, you know all filled ready to go to the hospital and I just wanted to share some of the stuff you know and tell you listeners it has been hard you know I’ve been adding to cart quite a bit while not being able to share with you because I wasn’t ready to and now it feels good to be able to share some of the things just a fraction of what I’ve been adding to cart.

SuChin Pak  15:43

Listen give and add to carter a mission to shop and boy the wheels come off of that wagon.

Kulap Vilaysack  15:52

I have been self-soothing by going to my baby registry and adding, subtracting, moving categories around adding things that like I don’t even expect people to buy I’m going to buy I just need everything to be in one place like and in fact I have already bought a lot of stuff that my friends have been no chance, no chance in purchasing for me I can’t wait for you bitches, now SuChin has purchased many things.

SuChin Pak  16:33

Add to Cart, I got that list I say Add to Cart number one I know your friends are generous and I didn’t want to get stuck with something I wasn’t happy with. Okay, number two I already knew that you were going to start buying it as soon as that link went out because you were like alright, I’ll give you 24 hours.

Kulap Vilaysack  16:53

This is how I felt. To be angry at my friends, because I need to buy either you get it or I get it.

SuChin Pak  17:04

Yeah don’t make her wait. She’s really clicking refreshed right now she has enough to worry about, as friends we should not be leaving her on a refresh on a registry that is not how friendships go down here.

Kulap Vilaysack  17:17

I think it’ll be okay Su but like oh boy, this is gonna be interesting. Being a first time mom at 42.

SuChin Pak  17:26

I love it. This is gonna be interesting that, that’s the title of your parenting book.

Kulap Vilaysack  17:38

Yeah, like it’s all who everything is like, my ability to compartmentalize because of the aforementioned trauma you described earlier.

SuChin Pak  17:50

So many rooms.

Kulap Vilaysack  17:51

This baby is a vortex and all the walls are coming crashing down. Let’s talk about my Add to Cart.

SuChin Pak  18:13

Vortex of her cart. I want to know what is in a diaper bag. Ready for the hospital.

Kulap Vilaysack  18:20

First of all, Su came over and I she got a preview of the nursery.

SuChin Pak  18:25

As soon as I came I said show me the little things right now. Let me sniff the sauce. Let me snip all of the little snappy buttons.

Kulap Vilaysack  18:36

Okay, and she came bearing gifts from Paris. The most adorable stuff from the.

SuChin Pak  18:44

You can go to Paris Target and I get babies stuff.

Kulap Vilaysack  18:47

Unbelievably cute stuff. And what I’m about to show you I’m already laughing because I think you’re gonna laugh at me.

SuChin Pak  18:55

Okay, what’s the first.

Kulap Vilaysack  18:58

Let’s look at my diaper bag. Gorgeous diaper bag.

SuChin Pak  19:06

First of all, what color is it everybody together 3, 2, 1, black.

Kulap Vilaysack  19:14

Su, it’s black. It is I think you pronounce it. […] I have purchased their baby tote. Their pacifier pod and a changing pad all in waterproof nylon.

SuChin Pak  19:27

I mean, this is a Prada baby bag. You know pretending to be a diaper bag.

Kulap Vilaysack  19:33

Foes my friend have a Prada, Prada diaper bag. Did I look at those, but even I said no. No $1,500 too much for a diaper bag. So, I really quickly purchased the Chloé bag, a Chloé diaper bag. And you know I received the ridicule I deserved and I kept it for two weeks in then returned it and got this bag. Now this bag. Also not cheap. All things said hit those links look at gorgeous.

SuChin Pak  20:12

When she’s done with it can I have it just for my own thing.

Kulap Vilaysack  20:16

That what I was thinking, this I will use later.

SuChin Pak  20:21

Yeah, exactly like it just looks like an awesome beautiful nylon Italian French Japanese piece of luggage. It’s gorgeous.

SuChin Pak  20:38

I love a bonus. I love a free gift with purchase.

Kulap Vilaysack  20:41

A New York City based sports bag and accessory company founded by CFDA award winning designer, Carmen Chen Wu and entrepreneur Aaron Liu. So their names Car as in Carmen and A as in Aaron. Okay, got it. And you know, we’re just getting guys all together. Not cheap. But I bought it from Mesa net, which I think you flagged me and I got all this percent off with a new user promo code.

SuChin Pak  21:13

God I love a new user promo code. How many new user promo codes can one have, infinite. Oh, it’s called the Internet setup. Your email account somewhere else. Get that firsthand. Get that first 15 baby. So to review I have add to cart. Cara. I have removed from cart, the Chloe bag gorgeous. But the it’s the right choice.

Kulap Vilaysack  21:47

Like Casey was like, Ku. You deserve it. But like, are you okay? Like with it being thrown up upon or thrown around? Like crap on the bottom? I was like, yeah, okay. All right. I don’t want to worry about it like that. That’s not the type of mom I want to be.

SuChin Pak  22:07

You want a mom who’s carrying around a Black pacifier pod. Oh my god. I’m just sorry. I’m looking through all your links. So chic. I’ve never nothing. First of all, it signals, baby. And I’m not saying that. That’s a bad thing. You know what I mean? I don’t see. Yeah, I don’t see a baby duck. No, you know, I don’t see. That’s not what this baby is coming into. She’s coming into muted colors, and a matte world. She’s got to get used to it.

Kulap Vilaysack  22:43

If mommy’s carrying them. I want things to last. I bought furniture for her that will last. But I understand that like other things you know, I’m not you know, I love whimsy. I know that sounds to come through and I’m fine with it. Like I you know. Sure. Did I put neutral like woodblocks, yes. Do I know that like hyper colored primary things are coming my way. Yeah, I knew that too.

SuChin Pak  23:13

You’re gonna have that. That’s why you need to fight now. While she’s not here. She doesn’t get to pick her own stuff yet.

Kulap Vilaysack  23:24

The next thing is, inside I have the, the formula we’re going to start her on, just to see is called Bobby. And Bobby is this organic infant formula. It’s milk based its powder with iron. It’s like a European style, but made in the US. And so our gestational character she’s going to try to pump in the beginning. But I think the likelihood is like, our baby is going to be formula fed.

SuChin Pak  23:52

How has that been, with all this formula shortage?

Kulap Vilaysack  23:56

Oh, gosh, it’s dark. It really is dark. It’s a dark time and like they’re known. They have like a subscription service. And at this time, they are at capacity for new subscribers and their waitlist is not even open. So the only way to get it is refreshing target online. Which I have done.

SuChin Pak  24:27

Are you stockpiling formula? But you don’t know if she’s going to react to it. But then there’ll be someone who wants that. I don’t know how this works now

Kulap Vilaysack  24:40

I brought this up to June Diane Raphael, and she was like, Yeah, but Ku, I was like, I should wait like out maybe I have a few canisters and she was like, Yeah, but what if there’s like an earthquake and she started getting me in that mindset, and it’s like, yeah, so it’s like I have like, you know, I bought like foreign hookah from there, but like when I go to, to speak to the shortage, which has improved some, it’s still like really bleak to go into Target and just see empty locked shelves. It’s really messed up. I haven’t opened this up to taste it but it is certified organic, made without GMOs, synthetic pesticides fertilizer. And so it’s passed the bar for like clean labels projects tests for like 400 plus contaminants and such. So it’s, it’s clean. I’m hoping she likes it. Because that’d be great. And then, kind of similarly, I was advised by friends that like, don’t get a bunch of baby bottles because like, what is she gonna like? Same thing with pacifiers too. Like what’s going to be her? Her sextile that’s not right.

Kulap Vilaysack  25:58

I’m gonna have to change my entire personality. No, I won’t. The truth is I won’t I’m too old. That’s what being a 42 year old foster mother is, set in her ways and pushed into change by her firstborn. And the last of my kind anyways, Philips. […] is the bottle of choice. I got the natural baby bottle newborns starter gift set. I put it in my aforementioned registry. My friend Ricky got it for me with other things. And I packed, do you think I should pack? Right now in my pacifier holder I within that starter gift set. I’ve got to […] pacifiers which is good for zero to three months. Like cubbies ready to go.

SuChin Pak  26:50

You want to just pop that in your mouth.

Kulap Vilaysack  26:52

Okay, and I’ve got diapers, my diapers, these diapers are there, coterie diapers. And I think these are like the new are hot, hot diapers. Popular diapers recommended by a lot of my mom friends for their softness in particular and also their auto renewship. They can make you can just set it up. So these just drop. I mean, I think you can get them at like Whole Foods and stuff. But I got these are extras given to be by past guest, Jessica Chaffin. And then I think my cousin also just like sent me a bunch to off the registry. I want to take this time Su, to say that like it takes a village. And I certainly have one. All the new friends have shown up for me with a lot of wrecks with their wisdom. And what I really appreciated from everybody. And maybe it’s also too because a lot of my friends had their kids older. Everybody was like, there’s no one way to do this. I’m just going to tell you like what has worked for me and why everyone has this attitude, which is so nice and like so reassuring. And I’ve just gotten so much like help. And that part has been so wonderful. You know, and then I do like my own research. I scour the list and I read reviews. That’s like fun for me. That’s like fun, good stuff. But it’s nice to have like, like you always say like high touch items, like people who’ve done the research for me and then it’s more about like, of that what do I prefer?

SuChin Pak  28:35

Yeah, absolutely. No, I mean, the baby world is infinite. Like, you could get lost in that. And you don’t have time for that.

Kulap Vilaysack  28:44

Yes, yes. Well, I didn’t need anybody to tell me about these waterwipes, why? Because for years I’ve been purchasing boxes and boxes of this for my dogs Molly in Georgia. So this continues on. I worried about Molly. We’ll see how it goes.

SuChin Pak  29:04

It’s gonna be a love fest. It’s just going to be snuffing and snuggling. First days may not and that’s okay. It’s gonna be quite it’s okay. They’re gonna have feelings. And then it’s going to be where are you taking my baby?

Kulap Vilaysack  29:18

Yeah, no, I think Molly is used to being the baby and I think it’ll be interesting for her not to have as much attention as she is accustomed to which it comes for us all, Molly, it comes for us all. We shall see. Let me have some room to be surprised.

SuChin Pak  29:44

I mean, God, it’s really hard to not sit on a mountaintop when you’re looking at a new mom. These things like let me be surprised. I’m like, boy chapter three. I mean, like, I can only sit here and laugh, but laugh with like love and knowing that everything is going to be fine, but just how little we all really know about raising babies and children. It’s just it’s so funny. And so when you’re like, oh yeah, we shall see you’re like, oh yeah, that’s the only, these are the only parenting tips you need. Leave room for surprise. And you shall see

Kulap Vilaysack  30:43

I got so many hand me downs when Su was over. That’s what she was seeing, like, affects the village, I got from three of my friends. I got the absolute cutest mini stuff. And baby girl already has a closet and drawers filled with stuff up.

SuChin Pak  30:59

She’s like organizing by age. I was like, I think she’s set till she’s three.

Kulap Vilaysack  31:05

She’s pretty set, you know? I mean, and then yeah, like my friend John Schrader gave me his snoo bassinet just chaffing gave me her BabyBjorn Bouncer I’m like talking I could like the good shit.

SuChin Pak  31:20

Your village is well funded. Shall we say that?

Kulap Vilaysack  31:26

Well-funded, and like they’re like take this I’m like okay, but you need definitely alright. Do you want this? I’m like yes. chaffins like oh no, there’s like a little stain. I’m like, give it to me.

SuChin Pak  31:41

She was like immigrant culture.

Kulap Vilaysack  31:43

She was like a stain. She was like my behavior with her. She was like this is your immigrant family coming through I’m like 100%.

SuChin Pak  31:53

Put a sticker on it, put a pin, put a patch, do nothing yeah exactly do nothing with that Chloe jumper not even worn but maybe got a little Vaseline stain on it I’m sorry, yes, hand it over.

Kulap Vilaysack  32:07

Give it to me now give it to me. Now you’re talking about that Chloe jumper I did purchase that the real at Target prices guys it was on clearance. You’re talking about the Chloe jumper. I got it for baby. One of the few purchases I’ve made for clothes since I have so much and so much. I’ve been messing I crazy. I’ve been loving it. I’ve mentioned that I got a new label maker. This is what it’s for. I got way too many labels because I wanted certain colors. And then I finished it and I certainly I didn’t even go through one ink like printing. And now if anyone needs anything labeled. I’ll send you something. I have too much. It’s crazy. But it is yeah. And then my merchandising background really comes to play because now my nursery looks like a show room. I have to like there’s certain things like things seem to dress a certain way and then when she comes all of that is good.

SuChin Pak  33:12

I love to see an untouched nursery. You know my favorite thing in an untouched nursery, are the hangers? I’m like oh, oh god, I got so many hangers I don’t think I’ve I hung anything.

Kulap Vilaysack  33:34

I have so many like, that has been the revelation for me which was baby size children hangers and I do not know why I didn’t get into these before I say that because I have since hung up all of Georgia and Molly’s clothing in the guest bedroom closet. I use that label maker to also there’s drawers that have you know their pajamas in one drawer their accessories in one drawer and holiday wear. Their dresses their Pucci, which are Gucci knockoffs and hung up also are their Halloween costumes. Oh, I will post a pic of that. That will be a fun pick. A very fun pick. But hangers. I will, that will probably continue on for me because that’s also my personality.

SuChin Pak  34:31

Yes, that is yeah, that is your personality. And mine is like I think it’s the third garbage bag. Like if you can just it’s all clean. I just haven’t had time to empty that particular plastic bag but yes, this is so fun. Oh my goodness baby saw.

Kulap Vilaysack  34:54

I have this tiny by nature organic cotton swaddle in the soul print, and I got this as a gift I’ve been working on a short that I directed that Emily Heller wrote it starring Mary Sona […]. You and I both do small voice over roles in it. And the amazing editor Nathaniel Miller and his wife, Molly gifted me our first bottle. It is so incredibly soft. It’s so cute and lovely. And then the kind of last set that I want to share that’s in my diaper bag ready to go is the Moray Welcome to our world set in gray stripe now.

SuChin Pak  35:33

Is this what she’s coming home in?

Kulap Vilaysack  35:35

Yeah, this stuff that I’m showing you. Hit that link so you can see everything that’s in it. I’m showing you these zip baby pajamas. First of all, everything feels super, super soft. And again, just Chaffin who truly has the finest things she told me about this, this company Maury and then we have like a long sleeve kimono body suit that stripes with a matching little hat. And then a receiving blanket. A really soft receiving blanket so this is her like coming home outfits. And that’s my bag, SuChin. One last thing, you know our good friends at yoga sleep. We’ve talked about them so much. I have had the dome sleep. Sleep sound machine for years. Cuz you swear by these for yourself?

SuChin Pak  36:33

I put on my family.

Kulap Vilaysack  36:35

Yeah, you travel with this. These are things that you’ve taken to Paris, the yoga sleep baby hush, which is a portable sound machine. I put this on my registry. And then CeCe the Wonder Queen showed it to them. And then they sent me a bunch of stuff. But I want you to talk about this. Like, oh my god, she’s like me hearing her.

SuChin Pak  37:00

I am person. We are a family of sound machines. And we’ve always been that way. I’ve been that way before babies. And so for me, this is the brand. The dome is the gold standard for me in terms of white noise. I mean, I’m so crazy about sound machines. There’s a sound machine for every mood flavor and whatever predicament you’re in. And the reason why I love this hush portable sound machine. I was trying to figure out how, it’s lighter than my iPhone. Okay, so it’s so light. It’s rechargeable. So I travel with this wherever I go. Every has one of these in my family when they travel. And so what’s really nice about this is it’s so portable, you can toss it in the car seat. You can toss it in your stroller. Oh yeah, this is going to obviously when you’re traveling for bag. Yes, anytime you sort of it’s nap time. The thing about for me what worked and again, every family is different. For me what worked in terms of sleeping, napping with babies, which is such a big part of the day of your mental energy is like when this child is going to sleep is like wherever I am, I have to try to recreate the soothing atmosphere and you’re not always going to be home. You know, sometimes it’s going to be on the street. Sometimes it’s going to be in your car parked outside of Yogurt land because you miss the naptime and the baby’s freaking out. And so this is just one thing that immediately for me signals. Okay, we’re shifting into naptime. You know what this sounds like? That’s a great way to kind of slipped right into these nap times and bedtimes on the go.

Kulap Vilaysack  39:00

I feel like I showed you the registry and you’re like, you have to add this. Like, like if there’s one thing that you need. I feel like you were like this this you need to have.

SuChin Pak  39:10

And they sent you a whole bunch of stuff by the way.

Kulap Vilaysack  39:16

They sent me the OMA all in one baby monitor with a nightlight, a sleep trainer, a sound soother, a temperature sensor, and it’s a two way intercom which connects to your phone, which is awesome. And then also the yoga sleep duet. Now you know this is this 130 soothing sound options. It’s got a nightlight, and again they sent it to me it’s a wireless speaker. They sent it to me for baby but this may end up for mommy.

SuChin Pak  39:47

Maybe for mommy. That’s the thing. And that’s the thing. I love a baby gift that’s for mommy baby.

Kulap Vilaysack  39:56

Yeah mommy baby.

SuChin Pak  39:59

Listen and some of my best lip balm is a diaper cream. I’m just saying I have my own personal favorite diaper cream I will share that with you if you want. Mother love. And they have an everyday baby balm and a diaper balm. Fantastic.  for my kids, like just great. And you can use […]. You can use petroleum jelly those products have worked for years and people swear by them. But for me these products were just as good and they’re not filled with any kind of chemicals. They’re all natural.

Kulap Vilaysack  40:45

I’m having a visceral reaction because my sisters are much younger than me and I was like your second mother when I was like 11 and 9 and they use desiccated and that smells, putting that on my lips just truly.

SuChin Pak  41:00

But this baby balm, I mean the most beautiful glass you want glass lips? Oh I’m sorry. Hailey Bieber, mother love already did it in a nipple cream or a diaper balm. So listen all this to say this isn’t about me. That baby stuff and mama baby stuff. Hey, all the better if we can all use it together. Are you opposed to it?

Kulap Vilaysack  41:28

I’m not, I’m reveling in this wisdom that you’re sharing right now.

SuChin Pak  41:32

I mean you’re not double dipping in the diaper cream.

Kulap Vilaysack  41:37

Okay, good. Good. I wasn’t planning on doing that. But you know, I think it’s really good to be very clear.

SuChin Pak  41:46

That’s what spatties are for baby.

Kulap Vilaysack  41:54

Su, that is our show.

SuChin Pak  41:57

Wow. I mean, this is a show that has been you know, let’s just say in the oven. Let’s say that for a while and we’ve been sitting on it rightfully so, you felt comfortable sharing it now. Well, let’s just say more comfortable, we’re still uncomfortable.

Kulap Vilaysack  42:22

Still uncomfortable, don’t want to show pictures of a nursery, don’t want to say her name yet.

SuChin Pak  42:26

Of course not. Of course not. But there’s still Juju magic out there that we need to make sure we harness properly. But I mean this is a big deal. You sharing this and it’s every time every day you’re just moving closer and closer and deeper and deeper into the vortex and sometimes that vortex is dark. Sometimes that vortex is fun. And filled with things to buy and return and buy again. Goodness I love this time.

Kulap Vilaysack  43:07

Leave us a voicemail and please share with us one baby item you absolutely love at 833-453-6662.

SuChin Pak  43:17

And of course you can find all of Ku’s coordinated, beautiful matte items on our Instagram at @AddToCartPod and we will see you guys next time.

CREDITS  43:34

ADD TO CART is a production of Lemonada Media. Our producer is Claire Jones and our mix is by Ivan Kuraev and Veronica Rodriguez. The music is by Wasahhbii and produced by La Made It and Oh So Familiar with additional music by APM music. Executive producers are Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak, Jessica Cordova Kramer and Stephanie Wittels Wachs. Be sure to check out all the items we mentioned today on our Instagram at @AddToCartPod. Also, please take a moment to rate, review, and subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcast.

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