All the Small Things

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This week Ku and Su both talk about how much small things matter. Su revisits some of her December purchases and revels in the joy of putting makeup on for no one but herself. Ku’s mom is still in California, and after a big truth is revealed, the two are finding a lot of peace in daily walks around the block. Plus, small gifts for two of our listeners who left voicemails!

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Transcript

SPEAKERS

Kelly, Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak, Abby

Kulap Vilaysack  00:00

Hey everybody, welcome to another brand-new episode of ADD TO CART. Now this is a show about the things we buy, we buy into, what we’re obsessed about. And what all of that says about who we are. I’m one of your hosts. I’m Auntie Su.

Kulap Vilaysack  02:02

And I am your other host Auntie Kuku Vilaysack, and this week we are talking about more add to carts including more insights from SuChin’s no shop jiggly January is that still the title of it or have we already shifted to something else?

SuChin Pak 

I was thinking about this the other day. And I was like, this is not a catchy title. But this is an honest title. We’re not title makers, okay, we’re not jingle jammers. You know, this little things. These are things that that we just were saying where I’m not shopping. okay, so I’m not buying anything this January. So that’s what that is. We did a call out. I thought it was a great idea if we could give out some of the stuff that’s been taken up room in our goodie closets, stuff that we were going to softly gently toss out to our live audience. But yeah, you know, that shows postponed. So we’ve got all these like, fantastic products and things from our favorite brands. And so we’re like, let’s give them away we’ll give them away to all of you guys who are leaving voicemails and the ones we play so thank you for leaving voicemails and you’ll get to hear who gets those special goodies later on today.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Let’s get into our cart, shall we?

SuChin Pak 

Sure. My cart. What’s in my cart? No. Well, you know, I was thinking about this. Listen, the show is called Add to Cart. Okay, yeah, some people find it slightly humorous that I’m not buying anything on a show about buying things. But most of us want to know what we love what things that we’ve purchased things that we’re looking at things that we’re obsessed with that we love, and my god have I purchased a lot before January. December was a fugue state. So let me tell you about some things that I bought in December that I am loving because now that I can’t buy stuff. I’m actually using this stuff I bought well, isn’t that a novel concept?

Kulap Vilaysack

I just really want to slide something in here.

SuChin Pak  04:11

Oh no.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Just a quick little timeout. I don’t mean to interrupt my sweet Susu. Yes, you are not shopping I know but it’s like you have set yourself up for success in that you have done this podcast where in you weekly receive free things in the mail from wonderful people. Yeah, you are you know want us to try things and we are willing to so it’s not as if things aren’t incoming this month.

SuChin Pak 

Let’s just say I’m not dying of thirst out here in this desert of no credit card purchase. It’s a slow drip compared to you know, the flow that I am used to. Okay, so I want to bring up the category of makeup.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Yes. You didn’t ask by the way.

SuChin Pak 

It’s a strange category in some ways because well, we’re all stuck in our houses, or at least a lot of us are most of the time. It’s for number one, number two, I, I don’t generally wear a lot of makeup, right, for what purpose. But there’s a few things that I have been doing now that I’m not buying, and I just have more time, and one of them just happens to be, I am putting on a full face of makeup every single day. I kind of started to do this last month. I don’t know where this urge came from. But one of the things I realized..

Kulap Vilaysack

I have this thought like you SuChin of course is an American icon. I mean, I kind of the best way to put it but a pioneer in Asian American journalism.

SuChin Pak  06:08

I like where this is going. I don’t know where you’re headed, but I’m glad I got on this bus.

Kulap Vilaysack 

So in your storied career, you would be on camera and on camera. They you got to put on a lot of makeup. Oh, yeah. glare. Really, you get glammed up, her call times way earlier than her male counterparts. Right? And then you got to get touched up all day. And then at night, you got to take all that shellack off, right. But now, you don’t do that as much putting on makeup is just for you. It’s not about having to do it.

SuChin Pak 

Yes. Yes. Well, some of that is absolutely true. Something about the playfulness of it is something that I never thought I would enjoy. But the other aspect of it is, is that as we continue to go into what we’re going into, you know, I mean, my hair hasn’t been washed in, you know, probably two weeks I am wearing jr sweat pants that are slightly urine stained. You know, like all of these things still happening. I was like, I need to pull something together. There needs to be like a moment in my day where I say I matter. I am important. So it’s kind of been that it’s okay my like, let me wake up. I don’t drink coffee. Let me put on a full face of makeup and go about my day and for its has been helping me sort of like anchor something to a ritual that is so vain and so petty and so non-essential, which right now feels kind of good. So, in December I bought, maybe you are familiar with this brand, Morphe. You know, it’s like a young person’s brand. But anyway, they did this collaboration with if you’ll click on any of the links there, okay, they did this collaboration with this Korean really, really famous Korean makeup artist. She used to do the makeup for CL, a really big Korean pop star who I love and I’ve mentioned on this show before, and she came up with this palette. And I have been watching her YouTube videos because well that was how I was wasting my time before January and I’m not doing that anymore. And there was something about it that just felt so antithetical to a 46-year-old woman putting on a makeup tutorial from a kpop makeup artists.

Kulap Vilaysack  08:51

It’s a huge palette. It’s beautiful.

SuChin Pak 

You guys, it’s so fun. If you like that sort of K Poppy soft rosy glow that’s a bit luminous. This is a really fun palette, and I’ve never bought something like this where it’s just I don’t know how many staggered over 20 shadows in here for your face and for your eyes. So that I’ve been loving.

Kulap Vilaysack

Could you flip up that palette and let me know which is the most used and which is the least used?

SuChin Pak 

Well, I haven’t touched anything in the blue and purples because let’s be honest. So it’s all in the desert that she likes to call it the sunset look.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Yeah, but I have seen you rock a little a blue shadow line.

SuChin Pak 

Oh, I love a blue shadow line. I was doing that before euphoria came out guys. I’ve been doing that since 1996.

Kulap Vilaysack 

What did I tell you guys icon. She was Zendaya before Zendaya was even born.

SuChin Pak 

Zendaya was not even a thought in her mother’s womb.

Kulap Vilaysack  10:14

Come on, TMZ?

SuChin Pak

That euphoria stands on my shoulders. I once used the blue eyeliner in 1996. Speaking of euphoria, that’s funny is this brand called Euphoria. It’s female owned AAPI owned. They sent us a bunch of makeup products. And I’m specifically talking about the lip and cheek tint. What it is, it looks like lip gloss. It’s like it’s glossy. It’s oily kind of liquidy.

Kulap Vilaysack

Are you talking about the chemical reaction?

SuChin Pak 

Yes, it’s called chemical reaction. And you put it on your, let’s say, cheeks. And at first, it just looks like a clear gloss. And as you start blending it in, it turns into the most beautiful rose blush. It’s glowy and rosy, but it doesn’t move as much as a lot of cream blushes I found, and all day long, you can kind of reapply, and it works beautifully. And so the founder of this makeup brand, she says it’s what did she say?

Kulap Vilaysack 

She says that you can sleep with it on.

SuChin Pak

Yeah, it’s makeup you can sleep in. Thank you. I love it on the cheeks. I love it on the lips. And again, it turned it’s a clear gloss, then that starts to change into a color is all I can describe it as, it’s the most fun, incredible little bottle of makeup that I have been playing with. But this is something it’s a game changer for me. It’s in my purse all the time. I never leave home without it. It’s just a solid, you’d really need I mean, we’re all wearing masks. You know, we’re mostly in our houses like you don’t need much. But this is a fantastic product.

Kulap Vilaysack  16:10

I’m gonna start with a removed from cart, Su. My mom has been with me since December 2. And she’s still here. She’s still with us.

SuChin Pak

Wait, is this because of the apartment situation?

Kulap Vilaysack

Yes, in part because I basically decided I was getting so stressed out about finding our apartment from LA with Omicron happening. And I was like why are why am I pushing for this? Why would I be shoving my mother back into the harsh Minnesota winter. While this is as SuChin put it is rustling through the country. So backing up a little bit December 2, my mom was here. And part of the no drama with my mom, it was revealed what my mom was up to maybe a week after we recorded that. And what my mom was up to is she just straight up got scammed off of Facebook, somebody who had taken control of like a distant relatives account, reached out to her and was like, Hey, I saw your name on essentially a Facebook like giveaway lottery post. And this catfish was like I won 500 grand; you should reach out to them. And you know, get your money. And so it went from being on Facebook, she reached out to the supposed people that were going to give her money. And it moved from Facebook into a text chain or texts basically. And this scam is where, you know, my mom had to pay a delivery fee, essentially a shipping and handling fee. Before she could get half a million in cash. And that fee would be paid through Apple cards. So she would get Apple gift cards. Take the photo of the back. And that way these funds are completely untraceable, right? That this is a very well-oiled machine. When she finally told me what was going on. Su, if she didn’t approach me as if like, this is what I’ve been up to. And it’s a good thing.

SuChin Pak  18:40

When you find out, let me just say you’re welcome in advance.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Yes, this was the sort of energy and I was like, okay, she hands me her phone. And I’m looking at and I was like this is a scam. And she was like, no. And I’m scrolling through these texts, which are really like essentially like bullying my mom. Like ma’am, don’t you want this money? We’re gonna deliver it to you. We just need $1500. Mom, how much have you given them so far? $5500 gift cards. Let me just make things […]. My mom is retired. She is a pensioner. She’s only 61, she worked in the grocers union in Minnesota. She worked so hard that she had to replace both her knees. So it’s not like she’s not swimming in it. This was money that was saved. But my mom was also as you guys might be aware, a gambler, which was very clearly illustrated in my documentary origin story. So my mom was like, you put money down to win big. And Mama’s like, come on. This is a scam. Well, no, your dad’s uncle’s wife wouldn’t do that to me. I was like, who is this person? Like, and you divorced Dad, you don’t even talk to anybody, period, much less family members of your ex-husbands like no, no. Then I’m scrolling, scrolling. She’s given them my home address. Why did you give them my home address mom? Well, they said they’re going to live the money here. What? And then what comes out? Guys, at one point, she showed me a what is clearly like a stock photo of a suitcase with money in it. Where they were like, this is your money. Don’t you want it? Come to find out she’s given them date of birth, social security, routing account number, login info. Like, freely given them like credit card info, like just everything kitten caboodle, and they are just relentlessly like nagging her to get more. She didn’t want to believe that it was a scam.

SuChin Pak

Oh, she was yeah, because she was already in her mind. She spent that 500. She was already there. The hero, you know?

Kulap Vilaysack

Exactly. I was like, what why? Mommy we’ve been in this country for so long. You’ve worked yourself to the bone. You know money doesn’t come easy like that in this country. I don’t understand. And you can see reading back and all the text like was she had doubts.

SuChin Pak 

They’re pros. They know exactly. Yeah. Once they have you on the hook. They know this psychology of who your mother is.

Kulap Vilaysack  22:03

And the more she puts in the more she’s on the hook, right? The more she’s invested. My guess is she was before I said it was a scam which I said immediately. I think she was gonna ask me for money. I’m glad she didn’t have a chance to do that, because that would have been. That would have been, I wouldn’t be making pasta with my mom. If that was the case, like that’s a very that’s a hard boundary between me and her. You know? So that first night I was like, Mom, it’s a scam. She’s like, no, my little sister Alyssa. Like you look at this. This is just going with my mom Alyssa says it’s a scam. She said like no. Gets Scott involved. Scott’s like, this is a scam. He’s so kind. And like this happens all the time. My mom got scammed. I think she’s still held up hope for one more week. And then they took control of her Facebook. And they catfished everybody, and they reached out to family members. As my mom’s a Facebook account and said that said that I’m with Kulap in California. And I need money basically in various forms. And me and my son just got countless screen grabs. Countless, like messages like hey, I think something’s up with your mom. Or I think your mom got scammed. And that point was the point she understood. So removed from cart, Facebook scams, and honestly, I hate Facebook so much. They are so unhelpful. They don’t give a fuck. That said, we got through that. And I never I just, I was never angry at my mom. It was more like; I worry about your judgment and your survival from the state on. And I talked to you about it. And you know, you made a suggestion that I kind of dragged my feet but I think this is the best plan moving forward and we have implemented it is I essentially have taken over my mother’s finances. And thus has become sort of a shifting of our relationship that was already on its way in that I am in it’s not even like a role reversal because that wouldn’t quite be our relationship. But I am very much the matriarch of my family. And it is for me too as the oldest to kind of help my mom. And be a good daughter in the sense of like, I know I can’t change her I can help her to certain point, I am dancing around a role reversal but that would mean that my mom was a certain way to me that she was not growing up. So that’s why I’m like dancing around it a little bit.

Kulap Vilaysack  25:19

That’s it. You know, cuz she’s got she gets a pension and then disability from the state of Minnesota and pension like that. I got to protect that. And it would have, she would have given more if she had it at the time, let’s just say that. And they went 100%, you know, got into her bank account. Luckily, that was stopped too. So it’s stuff like that, where I’ve just like, taken the reins, enrolled her in smart credit so that we can always be checking if someone’s trying to open accounts. It’s, you know, just taking in, you know, I’m gonna pay her bills, this apartment happens, we’re going to cosign for her, like, these are things that I’ve had just so many conversations with my mom about and she’s agreed to. And I think so far, we’re better for it. We’re going to try I do not know what the future may bring. But once we got past that, it has been a delightful visit.

SuChin Pak  26:15

It’s just been pad thai’s ties and strolls in the neighborhood. My dad went through this years ago with a scam as well. And then we had to take over his finances. And yes, it’s you know, you have to protect and you have to keep them safe. It is a little heartbreaking. Because I think that broke my dad a bit. You know, that whole process. And I don’t know what the residual of that is. It happened years ago. But I remember, like, I just remember there was a little part of him that kind of died in that process where he was like, I am no longer able to take care of myself, to take care of this family. I am. I’m not sure what my usefulness is. And I don’t know how to how to make that trade off any better.

Kulap Vilaysack

When my mom described what she envisioned would happen when half a million dropped from the sky. I was like, Mom, we don’t need anything from you. And this is hard, because she’s always been the breadwinner. Always been the breadwinner. And, like, you know, affection and love was, she’s not, she doesn’t know how to do the other stuff. And the other stuff was always what we needed. And that is the push and pull of things. But that was these are part of like the many conversations I’ve had with my mom, where it’s like, we don’t need anything from you. We’d rather just you be around. I think gone are the days when you live outside of your means. Like you don’t have to give gifts anymore to be frank.

SuChin Pak  28:00

But I think there’s a question of usefulness, like what do our parents how do they feel useful? I don’t know the answer to this question.

Kulap Vilaysack

Yeah. I mean, that’s part of the transition. And since then, she’s been making a lot of food. And that has been quite useful, my mom used to cook all the time. And she stopped doing it because there’s various bouts of depression. And then she, I see her light the fuck up. When people tell her how good her food is. This is a woman who owned a restaurant. Who, in the grocers, when she was in the groceries union, she was a caterer like she made. You know, she was the […] deli and catering. She make huge meals. And so now, you know, her making this stuff and me asking you to teach me how to do certain things. I think it’s something.

SuChin Pak  28:55

No, Ku, that’s everything. That’s the thing. We think that you know, these kinds of family dynamics. We always think that it’s some big thing that we got to go to a deserted island for two weeks and stare into each other’s eyes, you know, as we pour our souls like, that’s not it. It’s in those small everyday interactions that we take for granted. That’s everything. I mean, when you were thinking about that, I was like, oh, yeah, I realized that. So my parents don’t feel useful. I remember I just last week, my mom loves going to Costco. And I said, Mom, the next time you’re in Costco, could you get me that frozen salmon that you bought? I really enjoyed that. And my goodness, what a pep in that step? Ah, what a you know what a shake in the shoulder. She was so pleased to do something for me and it’s those things like we do take it for granted. I’m glad that you brought it up about the cooking. We have to remind ourselves that it is in those every De interactions that we can rebuild the usefulness and this kind of new relationship with our parents that was better, frankly, than we had when we grew up. And we get to do this with them now, while we have the time.

Kulap Vilaysack  30:16

I mean, it can be very reparative once there’s just a bit of surrender and acceptance. And by and large, I mean, my add to cart is the mirror. I purchased it for Scott, but I mainly use it, which is a classic Ku thing to do. And I have been using it and my mom and I have been using it. Me wanting her to work out has made me workout. So we do walks with the dogs around the house. And then pretty regularly, since before the new year, we’ll go down to my gym and I’ll be on the peloton and Mom will do half a mile on the treadmill with breaks, again, Mom’s heavy. She’s got mobility issues. So she’s like, huffing it. And at the end, we do Tai Chi together on the mirror. And I want to say sharpish she’s ever been. So it’s been a while. So I mean, you know, we take it day by day, who knows? But I think I will look back at this time. And really be very happy. Yeah, happy about it, because I’m happy about it now.

SuChin Pak

That brings just happy tears to my eyes. I can see these moments through your mother’s eyes. And just like how utterly content and happy she is to spend just those moments with you. And I just think that that’s all they want, I think in this time in their life is to be at ease with their kids. Period. That’s great. Oh, I love it.

Kulap Vilaysack  34:55

Thanks, Su.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Just want one thing to add and also have an add to cart is something you know, my heart astrologist, you guys, I still haven’t changed in 2022. But she’s Heidi Rose Robbins, and she posted something that I thought I wanted to share. Yeah, that really resonated for me today, and I thought that you Su would like it to. And she wrote this. So this is the time of recording. It’s January 11th, a Tuesday. And she does these Moon notes every day. So you should definitely follow her at Heidi Rose Robbins. And today it’s the moon stays in Taurus all day. And have you felt this recently? I don’t want to, you know, I don’t want to go to the meeting. I don’t want to want to work out I don’t want to write that assignment. I don’t want to talk to him. Do the dishes, start the day, I don’t want to do it. But it’s okay. You don’t have to at least not immediately. Most things have a little wiggle room. Give yourself wiggle room and compassion. Take a breath, listen to your own resistance, offer yourself kindness, remove unnecessary urgency and then choose willingly to move forward or double down on I don’t want to and leave it at that.

SuChin Pak  36:31

That’s great. What a great way to look at you know, the New Year, the new me, so much resistance in that, there is zero chance of that sustaining. We all know it, we do it. And this is a such a more human kind, gentle way of looking at every day, not just the new year.

Kulap Vilaysack 

That’s true. And that’s how this is the energy of where I’m at. And I’m not, especially with Omicron and you know, the old me is like you got to be doing this. You got to be writing you got to you know, it’s like no, I’m coming at this year with a different energy. Like, and this is where I’m at. And Su, it’s been good so far.

SuChin Pak

Okay, let’s get to some voicemails. As we said earlier, we had extra goodies from our giveaway. And so we’re going to be giving them away to the voicemails that we play on our show.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Let’s hear from Abby.

Abby

Hi, Kulap and SuChin, I wanted to call in and tell you one of the things that I have added to my cart and actually just got delivered. And I’m so excited about it. But for 2022, and it goes towards my New Year’s resolution, it is a goal planner from Ink And Volt. And the reason I am so excited about this planner is because part of the entries that it requires, it really helps you kind of break down your goals into actionable steps and kind of timeline and you know, really kind of a corporatizing your action plan for your personal goals. But really what struck me with it is that it has entries for reflection and to pause and celebrate your successes and take a look at the progress that you’ve made. And that is really one of my largest New Year’s resolutions for 2022 is to really, you know, take time to pause and look at how far I’ve come in the progress that I’ve made in all that I, you know, wants to do and want to accomplish. I hope you’re well, happy new year. And I love the pod.

Kulap Vilaysack  38:46

I love that Abby.

SuChin Pak

When the listener is the guru. I’m a big fan of journals, lists, calendars, you know, sometimes they work, sometimes they don’t. But I think the act of being very intentional about anything. And putting pen to paper is a very powerful thing. Great. This sort of reminds me of that thing. Years ago when I went to my therapist feeling very overwhelmed feeling like I only have to do lists that I never can check off at the end of the day. And I’m like, what have I done with my day? It she started to say, Well, why don’t you write a list of all the things you did do at the end of the day, right? And so then now you have two lists, right things to do and things you did. And boy, that was a game changer for me. This feels sort of similar to that, which is we kind of blow through our, you know, things that we do and achieve. And then we’re just like on to the next right because we’re so trained that way. And then also, not only do we blow through the things that we achieve, we tend to wallow and really sit with all the things that we haven’t achieved all the things that failures. We sit there because our brain, that’s how we are programmed right to really take note of the things that cause us pain. And so that takes a lot of intentional reprogramming, because that is our natural way of being. So I love that there’s this journal that is helping, so we’ll put that link up on our site for anyone that feels like this would be a helpful thing for 2022.

Kulap Vilaysack  40:25

And since we played Abby’s voicemail, we’re going to give sweets. I think based because I want to support her in her goal making and I think of the two things that we are giving away today. I feel like the Lanshin massager is going to support her goals.

SuChin Pak

I love it. And why do you think that?

Kulap Vilaysack

Because I sense a fellow type A personality who needs to write things down, who clenches her jaw. And I think that..

SuChin Pak

This is too much Abby, are we reading too much into your voicemail? Well, too bad. That’s what we’re going to do with all the voicemail.

Kulap Vilaysack

And yes, it sounds like I’m roasting you but really I’m roasting myself. Because I lost in a paper sorceress. I love pens. I love journals. I love paper goods.

SuChin Pak

That’s a great idea I will send you that. Sondra, who is the founder of Lanshin has these great little hot stone ceramic massages. We’ve talked about them ad nauseum, game changer. You fill it with hot water, and then you all the tension mostly around your head and your neck. So we’ll be sending that to you Abby, and also Abby helpful tip go to her website and her Instagram and you’ll see videos on how to use this thing that we’re going to send you. And I promise you, you are going to love it. That’s a great idea. Cool. I will pop that in the mail for dear, Dear Abby, thank you so much for that.

Kulap Vilaysack  42:05

Let’s hear from another listener, shall we? It’s Kelly.

Kelly 

With the new year I’ve been thinking about, I just came to the realization that there’s something that I want to remove from my cart, I’m a podcaster, pop culture music journalist, also a DJ, I’m really into music, buy a lot of records. But for me to move on to new ideas that I want to explore, there’s a lot of things that are always popping up on my brain that I need to sort of laid a rest for many reasons, mostly because either I’m just not passionate about it anymore. Or it was just an idea that I just never got around to that I have to be honest with myself that I’m not passionate about. So I need to lay these thoughts to rest to conserve my energy, and whatnot. And I think a lot of it has to do. I think a lot of times when we remove stuff from our carts in life, you know, honesty is something that we have to really, you know, look into ourselves about to be able to say can I live without that thing or that idea, or you know, ever exploring something, if you can, then just move on. And you’ll be able to have that energy for new ideas that you’re really passionate about. And I got a bunch that I really want to do in this year. So that’s what I want to remove from the cards. And it’s always great to hear the things that you’re adding or removing from your carts soon .Have a good day. And thank you.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Kelly, my heart, Kelly, my heart. I will be using and borrowing your phrase, Kelly, lay these thoughts to rest. Yes, Kelly, thank you. Thank you for that.

SuChin Pak  44:06

Not to make it about me. But let’s go ahead and swing that right over to me. Kelly I was just thinking about this is sort of why this no buy January thing came about for me. I just was all of these things were taking so much space and energy in my life. And I was like, Can I just put this down? Can I lay these things down to rest just for a moment and see what else I have energy for. And I’m walking, I’m cooking. I’m putting on a full face of makeup by you know, so I think it’s something that I love these two calls because it’s so counterintuitive to a lot of what we get programmed of like do, do, do, more, more, more and more. Maximize. You know, work through that pain. And sometimes that pain and that resistance is telling you something and like, you know, God, as Heidi said, you know, we have to honor that resistance and be honest with ourselves. So thank you, Kelly. Well, we love this skincare brand called Good Light. And so we’re going to be sending, you know, their whole skincare set. Because good light, you know, isn’t just about skincare, but it’s about taking care of yourself. It’s also about honoring who you are. David, the founder is all about speaking your truth, about mattering about taking up space. And so I think that could be a really nice gift for Kelly. So we’ll pop that in the mail. Kelly, thank you so much for your voicemail.

Kulap Vilaysack

Well, speaking of giving things away, let’s continue shall we? Next week if you leave us a voicemail guys really quick we’re not going to do this every time, you know we want to encourage you guys. Look, we’re aunties. Okay, sometimes we give you things sometimes we don’t. Next week, we shall be giving another awesome package. We’re gonna send you some goodies from Nom Nom Paleo, Nom Nom Paleo who I have spoken and loved from my former life who charted life I have been […] turkeys for you know, years. I sure have a crack that chest open and spread those legs. The voicemail that we select, we’ll get a signed copy of Michelle Tam’s newest cookbook Nom Nom Paleo. Let’s go. This is the third book in her series. It’s coming out on the 18th of January. You’re also going to get a Nom Nom Paleo action figure. Nom Nom paleo knee high socks.

SuChin Pak

I got a pair last night.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Michelle is going to be so happy; she is a listener.

SuChin Pak 

Took my hiking socks to a new level right up to the knees.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Did you also wear the hiking socks? Or you’re just saying they’re higher?

SuChin Pak

Oh, they’re higher than the hiking socks. I was like, oh, I didn’t even think about the knee sock category for sleep time. Wait, is this going to change everything, I don’t know.

Kulap Vilaysack 

You’re also going to receive a nom nom paleo fellow products carter move mug. I got one it looks high tech. Stickers and her new spice blends suit. Su and I got all of this stuff. It’s amazing. So call us and leave a voicemail at 833-453-6662 and be like Kelly and Abby and tell us what you added or removed from cart this week.

SuChin Pak  48:01

And remember to follow us at @AddToCartPod. We’re gonna have videos and photos of all the stuff that we talked about today. All the links are there.

Kulap Vilaysack

Also, we’re gonna continue to post progress videos and content from Matt McConkey Don’t forget about that hashtag the Matt McConkey solo wave challenge.

SuChin Pak

Boy and I’ve been on my own solo wave challenge, you know, just dialing it back. Just a few notches.

Kulap Vilaysack 

All right, we’ll see you next week. Bye.

CREDITS

ADD TO CART is a production of Lemonada Media. Our producer is Claire Jones and our mix is by Ivan Kuraev and Veronica Rodriguez. The music is by Wasahhbii and produced by La Made It and Oh So Familiar with additional music by APM music. Executive producers are Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak, Jessica Cordova Kramer and Stephanie Wittels Wachs. Be sure to check out all the items we mentioned today on our Instagram at @AddToCartPod. Also, please take a moment to rate, review, and subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcast.

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