Live in Hollywood! (with Jessica Gao and Jason Mantzoukas)

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Ku and Su take the stage at Neuehouse Hollywood for their first ever live show, with head-turning outfits, hilarious guests and, of course, free stuff! Friends, family and fans cheer on our intrepid hosts as they cover everything from Kulap’s fierce “playsuit,” to SuChin’s husband’s dating history. Then shopping superhero Jessica Gao breaks down why Costco is her go-to spot for toilet paper, booze, sweatsuits and even fine jewelry. And finally, Jason Mantzoukas returns for the next episode of “Zouk’s Cubes” — and let’s just say there’s a lot to unpack.

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Speaker 6, SuChin Pak, Jessica, Elyse Myers, Kulap Vilaysack

Kulap Vilaysack  00:38

Welcome, welcome.


Kulap Vilaysack  01:32

Welcome to Add To Cart the podcast about what we buy and buy into what it says about who we are. We are live at NeueHouse Hollywood with all of or friends.


SuChin Pak  01:43

You got, we, I’m emotional.


Kulap Vilaysack  01:47

You’re emotional. I am auntie, Kuku Vilaysack, and you are.


SuChin Pak  01:53

I am emotional and I am auntie Susu. And this feels worse than my wedding. I was telling someone, I was imagining I was like, oh, it’s I’m gonna look out. See if people that I know and love all true things. But at my wedding I didn’t have to perform. You know what I mean with a microphone. So, so this is a trip know when we do our podcast. We’re not, I’ve never even this in the same room like, even, even looking at you is throwing me off but, welcome everyone. I love seeing everyone here, past guests. We are occurring guests, friends. So first of all, we’re in this beautiful space. What are we doing here? Just kidding. Because you didn’t say.


Kulap Vilaysack  02:43

I feel comfortable. This is my.


Kulap Vilaysack  02:46

She’s just turned to me and say wow, how does it feel like as a garbage person to be in this space? And I’m like it is it is a bit surreal.


Kulap Vilaysack  02:54

Why do you have to share our personal convo.


Kulap Vilaysack  02:55

Did we, did we lotion our feet in the Aseops how you pronounce it a lotion in the bathroom guys. Okay, if you haven’t been to the bathroom, I suggest you bring a few pumps home. I wanted, true story was always tell you can’t make it up two seconds before here went to the bathroom. And we lotioned our feet. Okay, so.


Kulap Vilaysack  02:56

We started with our hands.


SuChin Pak  03:21

We started with our hands and I said, this is gonna this is gonna go down smooth. And so we went right down to the toes. It’s also a AAPI heritage month we are celebrating.


Kulap Vilaysack  03:33

Yes, your way Pam.


SuChin Pak  03:37

And it’s our favorite month, of the year because.


Kulap Vilaysack  03:40

It’s my birthday.


SuChin Pak  03:41

Mother’s, Mother’s Day was a flop for me. But hey, we’re not gonna get into that.


Kulap Vilaysack  03:46

Mine was great.


SuChin Pak  03:48

I got a balloon from bras.


Kulap Vilaysack  03:49

But anyway.


SuChin Pak  03:52

And then of course, because it’s, Asian Americans Pacific Heritage Month, we have an AAPI, Hollywood powerhouse joining us on the stage a bit and then we thought why not give them what they want? And so you called your dear friend and we have episode two or zero I don’t know of Zouk’s Cube, on the show as well. And for those of you who have been following us know, how frickin deranged it’s about to be.


Kulap Vilaysack  04:23

Well explain, for those who don’t I know there’s a lot actually.


SuChin Pak  04:26

You don’t have time, honey, we got it. We don’t have time to explain Zouk’s Cube. It’s a guy who comes up and talks about packing cubes for like three hours. What else is there?


Kulap Vilaysack  04:35

Well, that is the explanation. How many people you’ve never heard of Add To Cart before? How many?


SuChin Pak  04:43

Oh, wow, really? You guys are plus ones or you just wandered in, a plus one. I love it.


Kulap Vilaysack  04:48

Thank you. Thank you for your plus ones.


SuChin Pak  04:50

Wow. Okay, okay, so fantastic. So we will try to, be on our best behavior. Go on.


Kulap Vilaysack  04:58

Okay, so before we bring up our guest So first first guess who I call a woman King? We, let’s, let’s let’s you and I get into some.


SuChin Pak  05:08

Look at you. Okay.


Kulap Vilaysack  05:09

That’s how you are. Yeah, it’s like you’re avoiding me.


Kulap Vilaysack  05:12

It’s so weird to be looking at you like this in person. It feels intense. All of this feels very intense. Okay, go ahead.


Kulap Vilaysack  05:23

I’m with you.


SuChin Pak  05:23

I’m here. You’re just not in body yet. Go on.


Kulap Vilaysack  05:29

We’re gonna do some of our classic Add to Cart Su.


SuChin Pak  05:32

Classic Add to Cart.


Kulap Vilaysack  05:33

Things that we’ve added to cart.


SuChin Pak  05:35

You go first.


Kulap Vilaysack  05:35

Maybe some things we removed from cart.


SuChin Pak  05:37

Okay, okay, we can do that.


Kulap Vilaysack  05:38

And right away let’s let’s Yes, I’ll start.


SuChin Pak  05:41



Kulap Vilaysack  05:41

This playsuit. This playsuit.


SuChin Pak  05:45

It’s not a playsuit. It’s it doesn’t do it justice. When you told me I’m wearing a playsuit. I thought it was gonna be like a, like a jumpsuit. You know?


Kulap Vilaysack  05:53



SuChin Pak  05:54

But this is.


Kulap Vilaysack  05:54

Well I’m only calling it playsuit it because that’s what it said in the description. And then I had to look it up. Because I didn’t understand.


SuChin Pak  06:02



Kulap Vilaysack  06:02

So I guess it’s like for kids. It’s play clothes. But for ladies of a certain age it’s playsuit.


SuChin Pak  06:09

You look like, you look like a woman King yourself.


Kulap Vilaysack  06:12

Thank you. Thank you. I was fishing.


SuChin Pak  06:16



Kulap Vilaysack  06:17

This is from, Lala at dress and Lala and Instagram if you’re new. And I found this place because of an Instagram ad.


SuChin Pak  06:27

I got that bitch.


Kulap Vilaysack  06:30

I have a great algorithm that sends me things.


SuChin Pak  06:33

There like this one ad to girl. This one clears the check. Yeah, every single time. Yeah.


Kulap Vilaysack  06:39

And it’s comfortable. It’s a, it’s a you know, it’s made for someone younger than us.


SuChin Pak  06:43



Kulap Vilaysack  06:43

It’s the, the,  yeah, no.


SuChin Pak  06:45



Kulap Vilaysack  06:46

Looks. It looks like.


SuChin Pak  06:48

Yes. every body here just agrees.


Kulap Vilaysack  06:50

Of what the Golden Girls would wear. But that’s what the young people are doing.


SuChin Pak  06:53

That’s right and astrologers back number one, number two, this, you and I and this whole thing feels like a tour of the Golden Girls, you know, so it’s very appropriate.


Kulap Vilaysack  06:53



Kulap Vilaysack  06:58

I get sometimes when I look over at you like a glimpse of like, is this like our future like on the road? We’re like 75 or like begging people for free stuff to give to our friends just to hawking things. What do you really hope to age is a privilege and I’d love to age with you. SuChin Pak.


SuChin Pak  06:58

It does feel a bit like we.


SuChin Pak  07:27

I see it, I see it on I know it’s.


Kulap Vilaysack  07:29

The legend. RIP MTV News.


SuChin Pak  07:32

All right, he.


Kulap Vilaysack  07:34

Removed from current MTV News.


Kulap Vilaysack  07:36

SuChin Pak rise from the dead the Connie Chung of our generation.


SuChin Pak  07:46

She’s still alive though. She’s still alive. No, I’m just saying but MTV is, is.


Kulap Vilaysack  07:54

Oh right.


SuChin Pak  07:55

No more just, that is actually what’s going to be one of my removed from carts was MTV News, if you guys haven’t heard, is no longer. We all have a drink. We can pour one out symbolically. Wow, what arrived. And a lot of my friends from MTV are here. Some of you I can’t see you guys. You are in the back because I told you to come early. And then you didn’t. And now you’re sitting on a couch. And there you are.


Kulap Vilaysack  08:25

They did come early. They went and ate upstairs. Now.


SuChin Pak  08:29

Now open. I know I said 630. But hey, people were eager. And they were here and I texted you. I said leave the table. Did I not? I said leave the table. They’re lining up. But yes, remove from cart MTV. Wow. Um, and it just it feels like I’m not that old. You know, but now that my legacy is in a coffin underground. Like officially it does it. I feel way older than I should feel, I think and I feel pretty old all the time. But um, yeah. And I was thinking about MTV and I was thinking about all the memories. You guys back there know, the weird skanky beach houses we’d have to pull ourselves up in every summer. I was thinking about but my biggest memory often comes from like, sitting in the makeup room. That’s where all the action happens.


SuChin Pak  08:49

Oh, yeah. That’s where the tea gets spilled.


SuChin Pak  09:24

That’s where the tea gets built. That’s where the drugs get taken that sort of the booze consumed. That’s where the tears are shed. Yeah. So for me, I have those like private memories of MTV. But yeah, it’s kind of bittersweet. But it’s also nice, because it’s nice to know that like there isn’t like a raging party happening somewhere and you’re not invited anymore. You know what I mean? Like it’s over and you maybe weren’t the party at some point, and now it’s no longer so that feels.


Kulap Vilaysack  09:54

Let’s lift the show up Su, let’s lift it up.


SuChin Pak  09:57

That’s it. You want to go down this road? layoffs.


Kulap Vilaysack  10:00

No, I’m glad, I’m glad.


SuChin Pak  10:03

I’ll take it off my list to remove from carts.


Kulap Vilaysack  10:06

We’re here for all things at all pieces, but I’m just thinking maybe we switch and let’s do it. Mix it up.


SuChin Pak  10:11

Yeah, mix it up.


Kulap Vilaysack  10:12

I mean, you have a, do you have another remove from cart?


SuChin Pak  10:15

I don’t have another remove from cart. But then I want to say there’s only one VIP guest here tonight.


Kulap Vilaysack  10:21

Oh yes.


Kulap Vilaysack  10:23

This man, presumably took an Uber from Santa Barbara to be here. My father in law, Jules, Jules Bednar, longtime. Let me tell you, let me tell you, no immigrant parent would ever do that. For me. I didn’t even tell my parents this was happening.


Kulap Vilaysack  10:47

My mom still doesn’t know what I do. No.


SuChin Pak  10:49

And like, why they don’t care. And yet my adopted father, my father in law, I mean, can it’s like, I can’t even look over there because I think that will make me that’ll bring it down because I will then start crying. Just. he never misses. You don’t look at me. Look at Jules. I’m just looking here. But no, he. So anyway, so I was thinking about Asian American Pacific month and like, what are the things we just went to an amazing event and we got all dressed up and gussied with our gals over there at that table. And, I sat at the table with someone who was an ex lover of my husband. And I was like we. Thousands of Asians there, there are so many Asians that I didn’t see and yet she gets you my.


SuChin Pak  11:43

And my nieces here. I was thinking like, oh, yeah, but this happened used to happen all the time when we were living in LA you know that like know that we know the man in the bubble. The the man that’s his brother, by the way, loving every minute of this, you know this, he got a round this man. Oh, before I met him and maybe even like a little overlap. I mean, you know, we were young. We would be like, I we would watch you know, the stories we would watch a TV show, like a hit TV show, big TV show. I’m not gonna name names and, and there’d be an uncomfortable scene. I’d be like, ooh, that’s, that’s this is really wow, this is really graphic. And he’s like, Yeah, I used to go out with her. Or be at a fancy restaurant. There’s a valet, and there’s an actress there. And I’m like, Oh, I love her. She’s so good. Whatever happened, you know, she was in that movie, but it’s like, yeah, I used to, you know.


Kulap Vilaysack  12:38

Like, Bender?


SuChin Pak  12:39

Time this man got a route. Am I wrong?


Kulap Vilaysack  12:42



SuChin Pak  12:43

I and you know, do not sleep on the quiet ones do not sleep on the quiet funny ones. Or do a lot of people did. Take a number,


Kulap Vilaysack  12:56

Taking number.


SuChin Pak  12:57

And I was thinking, is this an add or remove?


Kulap Vilaysack  13:00

You tell me? I’m scared.


SuChin Pak  13:03

And I have to say after 12 plus some odd years of blissful marriage, it’s definitely an Add to Cart. You, I’m like you want to be with someone who has just spread themselves all over town. You know what I mean? And so they come home to a flat soda every night. It’s the same flavor and they’re like, it’s okay. Because I’ve had every beverage every single sparkling cannabis wine seltzer all of it. Why are adaptogens have that had that before? That was a thing. And doesn’t mind? You know, a little flat soda because it’s gonna be the same every night. It’s gonna be same consistency. Temperatures not gonna you know, alarm anyone?


Kulap Vilaysack  13:50

Do you? Like room temp?


SuChin Pak  13:52

Oh, yeah, for sure. room temp. Nope. No startling moves. She’s like a nice room temp. But anyway, so that’s an Add to Cart. So for all of you guys who are still looking for love, and you you find someone and you’re like, This person, has been around, you know, is that.


Kulap Vilaysack  14:10

H O.


SuChin Pak  14:11

No, right. We can’t say that. Anyway, it’s been around.


Kulap Vilaysack  14:14

A hoe?


SuChin Pak  14:16

Isn’t he? Oh, and you’re like, I can’t you know, like, I don’t know this person settled down with that as the person to settle down with that’s my.


Kulap Vilaysack  14:24

This is controversial advice.


SuChin Pak  14:26

I’m saying. That’s all that’s all I got though.


Kulap Vilaysack  14:28

We’re gonna bring up, our guest in just a second. I want one additional Add to Cart. SuChin it’s a gift for you. Oh, how many of you guys listen to our last episode with, a few you guys and clap. You know, I’m just like,


SuChin Pak  14:45

With Vivian’s audio,


Kulap Vilaysack  14:47

AKA, your rich BFF.


SuChin Pak  14:48

Oh my god, that was scary. You guys that was a come to Jesus conversation. I’m still a little traumatized from that.


Kulap Vilaysack  14:55

As Deanna Chang said, we all needed to get roughed up. About financial literacy,


SuChin Pak  15:00

Yes she, she coined the phrase what was it?


Kulap Vilaysack  15:03



SuChin Pak  15:03

What’s in it for me?


Kulap Vilaysack  15:05

What’s in it for me?


SuChin Pak  15:06

What’s in it for me, that’s the mentality she goes into her finances with.


Kulap Vilaysack  15:09

And she was taken a back that you didn’t get the gold gala gift bag, Olivia Can you please bring your gold gala gift bag for SuChin Pack.


Kulap Vilaysack  15:28

SuChin Pac I love you. I too like free things. But because you physically got sick and had a migraine over it I give you mine.


SuChin Pak  15:43

Guys, oh my God, I am a garbage person. I don’t even care what’s in it. Ku. It did make me nauseous.


Kulap Vilaysack  15:51

I know, I know it did. I know. You’re welcome Su.


SuChin Pak  15:55

We should do live shows more often.



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Kulap Vilaysack  17:09

Our next guest is a treasure and I do mean it in the Bruno Mars fashion but she is the creator of Disney plus is, She Hulk Attorney at Law and as a superhero of shopping herself, please add to cart Jessica Gao.


Jessica  17:39

Add to cart two drinks when they’re free, hold on hold on.


SuChin Pak  17:47

This is the energy Thank you. Thank you.


Kulap Vilaysack  17:50

You this is a big get everybody.


SuChin Pak  17:53

Shopping warrior that’s Gao she’s have that that. Yeah,


Jessica  17:58

I feel that accurate.


Kulap Vilaysack  18:00

Accurate. Okay, so we like to ask our guests like what what type of shopper are you how do you add to cart What’s your style?


Jessica  18:06

This is going to shock you to your core.


Kulap Vilaysack  18:08



Jessica  18:08

Yes. Shock you to your core. I’m a very conservative Add to Carter.


Kulap Vilaysack  18:13



Kulap Vilaysack  18:15

You heard, you it here in a Kirkland head to toe sweatsuit. There’s no way


Jessica  18:23

Not sponsored but open, open. Sponsorship.


Kulap Vilaysack  18:28

There’s no way you went there.


Jessica  18:30

No, I’m well, I don’t I’m not one of those people who likes to add a bunch of things to cart and then decide later. I only add to cart when I’m ready to buy. Yeah. And I’m often ready to buy. But I don’t you know, I don’t have like a bunch of carts full of stuff.


Kulap Vilaysack  18:45

No, because you’re very decisive.


Jessica  18:46



Kulap Vilaysack  18:47

You are. You are. You don’t really sit on any fences. You sort of bold them over. You are bold.


Jessica  18:54

Yeah. I, I below and then the force of my voice knots down the fence.


Kulap Vilaysack  19:00

Yes, much like the wolf in the Three Little Pigs. That’s how you shop.


Jessica  19:05

So that’s my style.


Kulap Vilaysack  19:07

That’s your style.


Jessica  19:07



Kulap Vilaysack  19:08

Let’s, let’s get right into Costco because, I, I have gone to Costco, for years before, I , I met Jessica Gao.


SuChin Pak  19:16

Wait, wait, hold on. I did briefly describe for those listening and not here physically able to see. Can you please describe to the folks listening? What is Jessica wearing?


Kulap Vilaysack  19:28

Absolutely. She is wearing a playsuit. It is a matching, black sweat suit number. It’s long sleeve of course. And it’s Kirkland Signature. We have it emblazoned across the chest and down the leg if you’re nasty you. Now go.


Jessica  19:50

Go on.


Kulap Vilaysack  19:51

I thought you were going to come in the slides.


Jessica  19:53

Okay, so I also have Kirkland Signature slides which are 1499 and very comfortable. But I thought this is a formal event. close toed shoes.


Kulap Vilaysack  20:06

Oh, wow. Thank you.


Jessica  20:07

And until Kirkland Signature does a collab with Adidas, and does like a Kirkland Signature Stan Smith edition, which is my dream. Honestly, Costco should hire me to do like a capsule collection for them.


SuChin Pak  20:18

They really should.


Jessica  20:20

Because it is far too hot to be wearing a full sweat suit set right now, but I had to do it.


SuChin Pak  20:26

No, I wish they showed up in this and I said, Wow, I actually liked the fit of those are tapered. She said Feel it. Feel it. Run your hands on it feel soft it is she didn’t say that there the camera off.


Jessica  20:37

Softest sweatsuits I’ve ever felt.


Kulap Vilaysack  20:38

Yeah. Again, not sponsored.


Jessica  20:41

Again open for sponsorship actively seeking sponsorship. Costco if you’re listening.


Kulap Vilaysack  20:46

When Gao takes on I mean, you take on products you take on.


Jessica  20:52

They become a part of it.


Kulap Vilaysack  20:53

They do and she is an amazing seller. I mean.


SuChin Pak  20:58

She’s Asian.


Kulap Vilaysack  20:59

Yeah. But Gao kind of style. Yeah. I don’t want to you know, like she’s very special. And you guys will see, but because I knew about Costco, everybody knows about Costco. But you, you took me into the to the back door.


Jessica  21:12

I live Costco.


Kulap Vilaysack  21:14



Jessica  21:15

As you all should.


Kulap Vilaysack  21:17

She was Anyways, my to do is know about the Kirkland Signature alcohol and that it’s like, do you guys, did you guys already know that?


Jessica  21:24



Kulap Vilaysack  21:25

It took it to like a matter a decade ago, and she opened my eyes that way. What is this? Well, the vodka.


Jessica  21:31

The long standing rumor is that the vodka is Grey Goose. So basically, like, some people say it’s filled with air. But I mean, look, no one has ever confirmed or denied. But, what we do know is that if they get their water supply from the same part of France, as the brand vodka, they use the same distilleries there and you know, they often have these deals. Where.


Kulap Vilaysack  21:58

Is there a newsletter? How do you know all this?


Jessica  22:01

I was, you know, I was just like, the other day I was like, I know so many Costco facts, which I’m very proud of. And so the other day when I knew I was going to do this, I was like, I’m gonna brush up on my Costco facts. So I googled Costco facts. And the first thing that came up was an article titled 120 Costco facts and I was like, that sounds like enough. So I click on it read the entire thing didn’t learn anything new. Every fax I feel like okay, you know, in diehard when Hans Gruber says like, and Alexander wept for there were no more worlds to conquer. That’s how I feel about Costco facts. There are no more Costco facts for me to learn. And so I wept.


Kulap Vilaysack  22:41

I mean, educate us like what’s what are what are the Kirkland Signature products that are like always in your cart?


Jessica  22:48

Oh, first of all, my favorite is Kirkland Signature toilet paper. It’s truly the best it really is. It comes in a 30 pack. It’s like $20 for a 30 pack. And.


Kulap Vilaysack  22:57

That’s good.


Jessica  22:57

I haven’t seen where I have to have double digit numbers of toilet paper rolls in my house. I don’t feel secure.


Kulap Vilaysack  23:04

Pre pandemic.


Jessica  23:05

But yeah.


Kulap Vilaysack  23:06

Oh, wow.


Jessica  23:07

So when the pandemic came, I was sitting pretty. Didn’t break a sweat. But it’s, it’s great because it’s the right thickness. It doesn’t clog up your pipes because I used to be a Charmin user, and my toy would get backed up constantly. Never happen with Kirkland.


SuChin Pak  23:25

Wow. doesn’t appeal it’s like a nice pill. It’s a nice laid. Yeah, nice to Don’t look at me like that. You know what I’m talking about?


Jessica  23:34

I don’t know what pill toilet paper?


SuChin Pak  23:37

No, really? That’s I mean.


Jessica  23:39

That’s in the commercial that’s in the Charmin commercial where the land all over his butt.


SuChin Pak  23:44

Yeah, I guess so.


Jessica  23:45

That’s the pill.


Kulap Vilaysack  23:46

Well, I have a bad day so I don’t know what you guys oh god I have.


SuChin Pak  23:51

Jessica do you have a bad day?


Jessica  23:52

I sure do.


SuChin Pak  23:53

Oh boy. Two bad dayers .Okay.


Kulap Vilaysack  23:55

Warms seats, warm seats.


Jessica  23:57

But I still, I don’t have the patience to wait for the bad day to dry me, so I still use toilet paper but, but significantly less it’s just a dry it’s just a pat dry.


SuChin Pak  24:08

You don’t actually know if it pills or not because you’ve only pad.


Kulap Vilaysack  24:11

She knows trust me she knows.


Jessica  24:12

Bad day is new but Costco has been forever.


Kulap Vilaysack  24:18

That’s some She-hulk day.


Jessica  24:20

Okay, wait before we get too deep into Costco. Yes. I want to back up a little bit and talk about the gold Gala. First of all.


SuChin Pak  24:29

Gala is getting so much.


Jessica  24:31

Gifting sweep before the ceremony was over.


SuChin Pak  24:36

And so you’re just mingling all night with a giant black tote full of free gift stuff.


Jessica  24:41



SuChin Pak  24:41

Yeah. Just wanted to make sure oh my god that is the move. Like another level? I’m, I’m just but an amateur, A little.


Kulap Vilaysack  24:50

Well, look.


SuChin Pak  24:51



Jessica  24:52

Call yourself a child of immigrants.


SuChin Pak  24:53

Yeah, I know.


Kulap Vilaysack  24:54

This is how to get your adopted look at my family now.


Jessica  24:58

There’s no one who Uber’s From Santa Barbara, he needs to get a free gift bag.


Kulap Vilaysack  25:01

He’s like, he’s like don’t embarrass us up there.


Kulap Vilaysack  25:08

Gao let’s get back to Costco. Okay, let’s circle back. Okay, so you said toilet paper. We’ve talked a little bit about the alcohol.


Jessica  25:13

Oh, let’s talk a little bit about the alcohol.


Kulap Vilaysack  25:16



Jessica  25:17

My favorite place to get alcohol. I’m a big Scotch drinker. And they have such a great selection of whiskies, like they have Japanese whiskies. They have your classic scotches, they have my very favorite Scotch of all time open, for very cheap and also the Atwater Costco is known as the good alcohol cost


Kulap Vilaysack  25:37

Oh my god.


Jessica  25:38

So they don’t all get the same alcohol you guys, I have spent many a 30 minutes talking to Doug the wine guy at Costco and that’s what he told me he said that one gets is known as the good alcohol once a day get a lot of, like specialty small batch things like that, limited quantity like whiskies there that don’t go to the other Costcos


Kulap Vilaysack  25:59

Okay, so we’ve got alcohol.


Jessica  26:01



Kulap Vilaysack  26:02

Gold Do you want to talk about


Jessica  26:03

Oh, yes. Almost all of my gold jewelry.


Kulap Vilaysack  26:09

Most of it gifted by your Mom.


Jessica  26:10

The gifted my all of it gifted by my mom because my mom, if left her own devices is gonna buy me something terrible. So I was like, what’s safe? And I was like, what is the safest thing I can ask an old Chinese woman to buy me obviously gold jewelry. And so that’s anytime she wants to it’s my birthday or something I say just give me he’s got a gold necklace, a chain. And it’s always from Costco. And she says it’s because Costco once you return gold jewelry, whereas all the Chinese jewelers won’t because they’re like you’re obviously you’ve obviously swapped this out for fake but Costco doesn’t know that. That’s our scheme. So she, so she’s like, you know, in case you if I pick something out, I’m afraid you won’t like it. So I need to be able to return it if you.


SuChin Pak  26:51

Swap it in return it Yeah.


Jessica  26:53

Never returned a Costco necklace.


SuChin Pak  26:55

They’re that good.


Jessica  26:56

They’re that they’re.


SuChin Pak  26:57

Now I heard and am I getting my facts wrong? Dana, did you go on a trip to Hawaii? Was that.


Kulap Vilaysack  27:04

You those three in the front?


SuChin Pak  27:06

They they went to Hawaii. I was at I was somewhere and she comes up to me and she’s like, Oh, um, you know, blah, blah. I’m like, What are you up to? You’re always going to since fabulous traps. And she was like, Oh yeah, I’m going to Hawaii. I was like, oh my God for what she’s like Costco. She got on a plane. And the Costco apparently in Hawaii is totally different than Costco and the mainland.


Jessica  27:26

They’re all my dream is to do and around the world and 80 days but of all the Costcos.


SuChin Pak  27:32

If that isn’t a show to pitch, then well.


Jessica  27:34

They have I mean, the Costco food court, as we all know is great. But.


Kulap Vilaysack  27:40

Is it different? Do we know that ?


SuChin Pak  27:43

Excuse me. And by food court you mean like the food that you buy or the food that they’re handing out.


Kulap Vilaysack  27:52

What’s going on right now?


SuChin Pak  27:54

I actually I have been to Costco maybe, you know maybe, twice.


Jessica  28:02

What. Oh my God. You know what to say that to say that to us? During Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage Month is a hate crime.


SuChin Pak  28:15

Violence. I’ve committed a hate crime you’re right I don’t I guess I just don’t get it. I’m getting it now. Okay, I’m listening. I’m downloading it all but I go in there I’m so overwhelmed at who needs 80,000 of anything I don’t wait. Are you.


Kulap Vilaysack  28:33

So you’re willing to buy a dozen sized sweatpants, that fit you like jodhpurs and not get these and she just bought one she didn’t bite us in bowl.


Jessica  28:46

Let’s be clear, I wouldn’t buy it in bulk and we’re crazy, we’re gonna have to do a special field trip after Costco and water yeah,


SuChin Pak  28:58

I need someone to take me through the aisles and just you know just show me the jewels you know what I mean really get into it because.


Jessica  29:05

I go there jewels I can show you there.


SuChin Pak  29:09

I didn’t know they sold gold chains I mean real gold.


Jessica  29:13

They sell  Rolexes with diamonds.


SuChin Pak  29:14

No they don’t.


Jessica  29:15

Yes, they do


SuChin Pak  29:16

They do?


Jessica  29:17

Look at.


Kulap Vilaysack  29:18

A lot of people know a lot of people audience are nodding in recognition.


SuChin Pak  29:23

But if you’re going to spend $75,000 You’re going to you want a good deal. You want to go to Costco and spend $75,000, I don’t know, All right, okay. But I’m, I’m, I’m open you know, I’m open. I’m open to being to being wrong and to be convinced that this is this is homeland. Well, you know, I need


Jessica  29:43

To return I see it at the at water Costco when we leave, you’re gonna have a Costco membership card.


Kulap Vilaysack  29:50

Speaking of Costco memberships.


SuChin Pak  29:53

Sponsored not sponsored.


Kulap Vilaysack  29:55

Two types of memberships, the gold star is 60 a year and the executive is 120. A year Goldstar a standard executive has more benefits and a 2% annual reward. What?


Jessica  30:05

Obviously, over the executive, side ask, because if you spend just a mere $3,000 a year at Costco, you’re already making back the difference in membership costs between the right standard membership. It’s so easy to spend $3,000 like try I dare you to try not to spend $3,000 at Costco. And then if you spend $6,000, you’ve earned back your membership.


SuChin Pak  30:31

Wow, yeah, it’s practically for free for $6,000


Jessica  30:35

There’s a pharmacy there’s an optometrist. Up until recently, there was a photo center you can buy a coffin there. You don’t even have to buy it in bulk. There’s a tire center. So if you buy a car tire from Costco that guarantee of for a year if anything happens to it in a year they just replace it no questions asked. You just slashed your tire and they’ll replace it.


Kulap Vilaysack  30:57

Are you sold?


SuChin Pak  30:58

I am almost sold $6,000 later? Yes.


Kulap Vilaysack  31:02

Take that Vivian to your rich BFF.


Jessica  31:05

You know what, they sell America Costco.


Kulap Vilaysack  31:07

They do? They do?


SuChin Pak  31:08

I mean, I am not looking at the right Costco maybe the Costco in Santa Barbara doesn’t have all this fancy stuff.


Jessica  31:14

Oh, you think the Santa Barbara Costco doesn’t have the fancy. I remember what you’re talking about now international Costco. So at food courts and different countries they have country specific cuisine other food courts, like Korea, Costco has bulgogi bakes instead of chicken bags. Yeah, like Costco Japan they have matcha softserve.


Elyse Myers  31:34



Kulap Vilaysack  31:36

Add to Cart trivia guys.


Jessica  31:39

The food tour I want to do I want to hit up all the Costco food courts.


SuChin Pak  31:44

Like Jessica’s like she’s like dropping the mic after every one of these Costco facts you know that right.


Jessica  31:49

Right you know what Costco travel is gonna book that trip for me.


Kulap Vilaysack  31:56

Gallagher any other like some hot some hot tips?


Jessica  31:59

Everybody knows the rotisserie chicken is the thing they get at Costco. Yeah, for 99 you get a gigantic rotisserie chicken. It’s delicious. It’ll feed your whole family for multiple days. They put it at the very back because then you have to walk all the way past everything.


Kulap Vilaysack  32:15

Jane, Yes.


Kulap Vilaysack  32:20

For 99 rotisserie chicken. It’s like 10 bucks plus.


Jessica  32:23

Tiny chicken.


Kulap Vilaysack  32:24

Yeah, you’re right. This one’s got big ol booties and movies. I meant boobies.


Jessica  32:31

Yeah, Costco, number one worldwide seller of red meat or a bowl of want red wine and nuts. And there, do you remember in the 90s when there was that listeria outbreak and like it almost like ended Jack in the Box? Yeah, like in all these fast food places. We’re like, oh my god, we’re gonna go out of business because everyone’s meat might be contaminated. Costco got so freaked out that they open their own meat processing plant, they process their own meat so that they can control the quality. Wow. And that’s why you can get a USDA prime ribeye steak in a four pack for like $60.


Kulap Vilaysack  33:08

How many refrigerators Do you own?


Jessica  33:11

Only one. Because despite popular belief, I’m not actually Korean. So I only have one.


SuChin Pak  33:16

So it wasn’t just a Korean Asians that have multiple refrigerators.


Jessica  33:20

No, my parents have a garage free. Yeah. And have one of those chest freezers.


Kulap Vilaysack  33:25

Yeah, same.


Jessica  33:26



Kulap Vilaysack  33:27

Yeah. Same. I’m having a memory because that’s where my dad would put all of like he would go all the extra food of course, the carp that he, he, he got and then also one time my dog died. He put him there.


SuChin Pak  33:42



Kulap Vilaysack  33:43

To keep them frozen. And then he was he? He said he buried him I don’t think he did after. Anyways, MTV Oh, my jaw down. Had the image and I had to give it all to you so that I could be free.


Jessica  34:02

If you have a dead dog you need to put in a freezer you can buy one at Costco.


Kulap Vilaysack  34:06

Well hey, bringing it back bringing it back. Oh my gosh. Gao. I want to ask you, so curious why you’re adding to cart Lau grandma’s spicy chili crisp.


Jessica  34:19

it’s the best chili sauce ever I put it on everything, there’s so many imitators it’s just not the same.


Kulap Vilaysack  34:26

Are you guys familiar? Do you know this? This is the OG that’s what I thought you were gonna say because there are so many different chilly crisp all great people some of them sponsors of the podcast but I knew you were gonna be like above Oh.


Jessica  34:40

Yeah, nothing tastes like this. And so this company this brand logo,  Lao Gan Ma Lao Gan Ma in Chinese means old godmother and so you’ll know it by the extremely cranky looking lady. On the on the on the label. She’s very tired from making so much spicy all the time. But you have that they make like eight different kinds of hot sauces and they All like they’re all named kind of similar. You have to get the spicy chili crisp. That’s the one it’s very it’s different than all the other ones. It’s so good. I love this so much. This was the wedding favor at my wedding. Everybody left with a jar of these. And everybody was had no complaints.


Kulap Vilaysack  35:17

Oh, I was so happy. I’m so happy speaking of her wedding, she sent a link of all of the wedding pictures. And in her getting ready photos before she put on a dress while she was getting your hair and makeup done. She was wearing this outfit.


Jessica  35:33

So comfortable. So everybody.


Kulap Vilaysack  35:34

Knows. She’s not pretending.


SuChin Pak  35:38

We all know that. Nobody here.


Jessica  35:42

This isn’t the only Costco clothing I have. I have eight pieces from the Kirkland Signature Collection.


Kulap Vilaysack  35:48

Name them.


Jessica  35:49

I have this but also in gray. I have this with as a hoodie. I have a gray sweatshirt that says Costco Wholesale printed all over all over prints. A black sweatshirt that’s just as Costco Wholesale right here. Multiple times. Now people have asked me if I worked for Costco and I and I blurted out I wish I went to an open house to look at a house and the realtor asked me if I worked for Costco.


Kulap Vilaysack  36:15

She, you have multiple times launched into how well the employees of Costco have.


Jessica  36:22

A 93% retention employee retention rate after one year of employment. That’s incredible.


SuChin Pak  36:29

Fact 61. Fact 61.


Jessica  36:33

Even their part time employees get benefits.


Kulap Vilaysack  36:35

She knows everything about Costco.


SuChin Pak  36:39

Give me one more fact.


Jessica  36:40

Average salary  $18 hour in the warehouse.


Kulap Vilaysack  36:44

Wow. Give it up for $18 an hour everybody.  I really don’t want to let you go because you’re such a delight. But I also am curious what you’re removing from cart.


Jessica  36:57

Oh purses. That’s what I’m removing. I’m purse free. I’ve been purse free for two years and I’ll never look back but I love it.


Kulap Vilaysack  37:05

But how do you Where’s your phone?


Jessica  37:07

It’s called pockets.


Kulap Vilaysack  37:09

Okay, but then where’s your lipstick?


Jessica  37:12

It’s called bare lip, everything just fits into my pockets I have my wallet my phone and my keys and that’s it that’s all I have on me but you don’t feel like weighed down with like no I thought I would but I have never been like oh I need this thing.


SuChin Pak  37:28

And when did what, what prompted you to go rogue like this?


Jessica  37:31

I you know look it probably helps that it’s we’re in pandemic times where like, it’s not like I’m going I’m not going to Gala all the time. And when I did go to the gala I did have a clutch look I want to say I could have gone without, I just want to be well heard on that. And if I ever need to carry more things, I just get more pockets. I put on a jacket with a pocket. I just add more pockets Add to Cart pockets.


Kulap Vilaysack  37:54

Cargo pants.


Jessica  37:55

Never. Never I’ll have a coat a jacket something with pockets. That’s all that’s all I need.


Kulap Vilaysack  38:03

Is anybody with her? When is anybody willing? Is this a movement?


Kulap Vilaysack  38:06

Guys? Oh, count guys.


Jessica  38:09

What’s great is you know if you are in a heteronormative relationship with a man, it absolutely stops him from being like, Hey, can you put this in your purse for me? He doesn’t know what to do with himself. He has to hold his own sunglasses his own keys like he it’s completely like shaking him to his core and I love it.


SuChin Pak  38:29

I mean there’s, there’s no argument for it anymore. I’m not I’m not sure why anyone was curious.


Jessica  38:34

It’s convenient and it destroys someone else’s sense of self. That’s.


Kulap Vilaysack  38:37

What if your POC who has her Breakfast Fried Rice? In a US ziplock bag. Where would she put it?


SuChin Pak  38:46

In your pocket?


Jessica  38:47

You line a pocket with a Ziplock bag.


Kulap Vilaysack  38:51

But she are in her pocket already is a Ziplock bag with pills to shove it to the side or.


SuChin Pak  38:57

Yeah, yeah, that’s why the ziplocks are flexible. They’re not they’re not cube material. Oh,


Kulap Vilaysack  39:03

Don’t you start with that type is excused. Yes.


Jessica  39:06

I am a big fan of packing cubes. I will say.


Kulap Vilaysack  39:07

Oh really?


Jessica  39:08

Oh yeah.


Kulap Vilaysack  39:08

Okay, well get ready.


Jessica  39:10

For your pills. I would suggest using nature’s purse, which is your body. Just eat it.


Kulap Vilaysack  39:17

Oh, I thought you meant your vagina.


Jessica  39:18

Oh no.


Kulap Vilaysack  39:21

I did. Everybody. You’re the best. Thank you, Jessica.


Kulap Vilaysack  39:36

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Elyse Myers  40:10

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Kulap Vilaysack  40:43

Okay, let’s bring up our second and final guest.


SuChin Pak  40:48

Well, it’s a new podcast almost right?


Kulap Vilaysack  40:50

Yes. You know him as an actor, a comedian, a writer, a person not on social media, a white shirt wear and the host of the podcast within our podcast. Please welcome Jason Mantzoukas.


Kulap Vilaysack  41:20

Hi, there.


Speaker 6  41:21

Here we go.


Kulap Vilaysack  41:27

Jason well.


Kulap Vilaysack  41:28

Our luggage Oh boy. This is gonna be fun. Oh, yeah. It’s gonna be riveting.


Speaker 6  41:33

I brought the stuff. Now. I thought there was gonna be a table that I could display it on. There isn’t what I’m gonna be cool with that.


Kulap Vilaysack  41:40

We could. Okay, yeah. On our knee. Okay, so how many people are familiar with Zouk’s cubes? For those who aren’t familiar, yeah. Jason is a man who likes things a certain way.


Kulap Vilaysack  41:59

Is that fair?


Speaker 6  42:00

I’m particular.


Kulap Vilaysack  42:00

You’re particular


SuChin Pak  42:02

About all things? Most things, some things in your life?


Speaker 6  42:06

I would say so most, if not all thing.


Kulap Vilaysack  42:10

Jason, I love you one.


Speaker 6  42:13

Oh my god, I love you too.


Kulap Vilaysack  42:15

So I sit in between the two of you and you are the range of people who use packing cubes. I think that’s fair to say.


Speaker 6  42:21

Oh, yeah. I am exclusively packing cubes, pouches all the rest and based on the photos that SuChin has sent to our shared group chat. You live in abject chaos you live in a world that like the picture I’ve there have been pictures sent based on your packing for a trip that gave me a panic attack.


Kulap Vilaysack  42:48

Because we were given because Jason came and he taught taught us about Tom Ben. And we were gifted some time.


SuChin Pak  42:56

They were very nice.


Kulap Vilaysack  42:57

They’re very nice. And yet you use them but then there would be just a sandal.


Speaker 6  43:02

Oh no. A 1000 sandals.


Kulap Vilaysack  43:05



Speaker 6  43:07

Appeared to just be loose shoes. The idea of putting in your suitcase for travel. Loose shoes is disgusting. I want to go on record. That is disgusting.


SuChin Pak  43:25

I mean, there are a lot of disgusting things in this world. And I think a loose sandal in my suitcase. Not, not so high on so high on the list. No. I mean, I’m not doing anything. That disgusting with the sandal. I mean.


Speaker 6  43:39

But it’s all of the bottoms of your shoes are covered with the filth of the filth of the world. And then you’re like, No, throw it in with all my clean clothes.


SuChin Pak  43:47

I thought you were going to give me shit about when I tried your tray.


Kulap Vilaysack  43:54

Oh, the tray. Tray.


Speaker 6  43:56

I brought one too great.


Kulap Vilaysack  43:58

Like first of all, how much space? Do you know Ziplock? What? I wish I brought a ziplock. I didn’t know you guys were gonna bring this tray. It’s a white. It’s Look at this. This is so much safer. I thought you were going to give me ship because I filled two.


Kulap Vilaysack  44:14

Now all three of us are holding travel trays.


Speaker 6  44:16



SuChin Pak  44:17

Not sponsored in any way shape or form. But I thought you were gonna give me shit because then I filled it. I was like fine. I’ll use your tray. And I filled it with my tray. I toiletries. And I you know, had a little glass jar that I’d saved from a Japanese hot sauce that I love, you know. And I cleaned it out. I cleaned it out and I poured my mouthwash in it and then.


Kulap Vilaysack  44:46



Speaker 6  44:49

Like I don’t I don’t think you shouldn’t be allowed.


Kulap Vilaysack  44:53

Jules is with me. What are you talking about? I shouldn’t be allowed to travel. I cleaned it out. And because I knew that you guys were going to be in the group chat, show as the picture of your suitcase,


Speaker 6  45:05

What we sound like to you?


SuChin Pak  45:08

When I see the three dots in my head.


Speaker 6  45:12



SuChin Pak  45:14

And I said then I went to my husband’s, What do you call that? You print it out and it’s a picture and then there’s like a Label, Label Maker.


Speaker 6  45:24

Brother P touch. I almost brought my brother P touch tonight as one of my.


SuChin Pak  45:32

Ladies Wow, settle down there right.


Speaker 6  45:37

On the picket line last week, someone did say Zouk’s  Cubes really, really made my day


SuChin Pak  45:49

but I did use that and I and I put mouthwash in it because I knew that you would want me to take a picture and that’s that’s what I thought you were gonna give me shit about the sandals and whatever we understand that I’m not licking the sandal and I’m not eating with it. I’m not brushing my teeth.


Speaker 6  46:03

The desire. The desire to travel with heavy glassware. How can I pack this mouthwash? I should find wash a heavy piece of glass that will maybe break maybe like that’s their.


SuChin Pak  46:20

Use a light, use a light. Oh, who knows? I like living on the edge of my seat everywhere else and contained in a coffin but when I travel.


Speaker 6  46:30

A coffin?


SuChin Pak  46:31

A coffin just dead doorman.


Speaker 6  46:34

Travel like a vampire.


SuChin Pak  46:35

But when I travel I mean the world is my playground you know the world is old.


Speaker 6  46:44

To post the pictures you sent to the group chat, so that people can get a gander at like if I if you were like if we if you were like hey let’s go on vacation bla bla bla and you put your suitcase down you unzipped it and and I would be like if I saw that I’d be like I can’t be friends with you anymore. I can I can.


SuChin Pak  47:04

Find you in the checkout line of the security as you’re taking out your cube, pouches and, and your and your scenes. You bought 400 little tiny plastic bags on Amazon for what?


Speaker 6  47:22

I use them all the time.


SuChin Pak  47:24

For what these tiny little?


SuChin Pak  47:26

I’ll show you okay, I’ll show you what you’re talking about. Okay,


SuChin Pak  47:31

Take a big bag and twirl it.


Kulap Vilaysack  47:35

Seen people talking to on and.


Speaker 6  47:39

By the end of this we are married.


Kulap Vilaysack  47:42

They’re just talking about plastic bags right now.


Speaker 6  47:47

For me all the little my bag is just full of other bags.


Kulap Vilaysack  47:53

Boring magician.


Speaker 6  47:54

You know what I brought you SuChin, this is a bag for shoes.


Kulap Vilaysack  48:00

Take it to a bag.


Speaker 6  48:03

That is.


SuChin Pak  48:05

There’s opening.


Speaker 6  48:05

No, there’s a plastic line in it so you can see which shoes are in it.


Kulap Vilaysack  48:09

Because as you were complaining that you couldn’t see.


SuChin Pak  48:13

Wow, I mean people really care about this stuff. Like they made it see through which was my problem I got all these beautiful Tom but what’s in it once it cinched up I’m like, I don’t know is burito was my mouth I’m just saying you don’t know what’s in here.


Speaker 6  48:34

What you do know if you know what you put in there? What do you like? Do you do you Memento yourself? Like how does it go?


SuChin Pak  48:44

It laser Yeah, I laser it away. I don’t know I just I can’t I think like opening a suitcase and your suitcase was I did say it was it was a work of art it was beautiful. It showed me a an intimate side to you that is is frightening and maybe I may already be married to but anyway that’s neither here nor there. And I thought this man must have the memory the memory of of a mad scientist so many closed zipped bags filled with things and everything by the way is also filled with a charger like wires.


Speaker 6  49:24

Oh well yeah, I duplicate.


SuChin Pak  49:26

Duplicate you guys.


Speaker 6  49:28

Are you always want accessible. One of them is a phone charger and a little either an external battery or like a little brick to plug in somewhere and you don’t want to be like there’s only one of them in my entire travel setup.


Kulap Vilaysack  49:44

So the weight of your  extra batteries, your 40 Extra batteries, your 42 extra charges to do that. And my little spicy jar of mouthwash. I’m just saying the wait. I think I don’t know I don’t know that’s that’s Feels good.


Speaker 6  50:00

Am I wrong? Or did you not have some sort of spill situation where the toilet.


Kulap Vilaysack  50:05

There’s always a spill situation with by the way these trays are waterproof on the bottom was great that I do agree that on the bottom I was like I just took them out and I just sloshed out the liquid and I put it right back in there. Let’s explain Jason explain to the folks what the travel tray is because I think it’s an unusual piece of travel cube.


Speaker 6  50:24

So, I Okay, so just show of hands who here uses, packing cubes or pouches or stuff? Okay, so quite a lot of people. If I’m a weirdo,


SuChin Pak  50:38

I feel like I feel like they’re also here because they, they like you as a person. And it’s because cubes fans but anyway, it feels like a bias, many bias.


Speaker 6  50:49

You’re what a savage take on your own show. You’re like half of these people are jst here for Zouk’s cubes. And the other half is here for Costco.


SuChin Pak  51:01

Yes. Kind of.


Speaker 6  51:04

Here’s what I huge reveal for me. Massive fan. I have never been to Costco.


SuChin Pak  51:15

I told you he was a psycho. I told you that. I’ve been there twice, two more times and this psychotic person sitting next to me.


Speaker 6  51:25

How dare you.


SuChin Pak  51:26

Two more time.


Speaker 6  51:28

At least I’m willing to accept that it is a character flaw in me. It is my problem that I need to remedy. And please take me to Costco, so for a travel trade what I do you get to your place and you’re like, Oh, I got my this. I got my pocket knife. I got all my stuff. Fucking bang boy.


SuChin Pak  51:52

Let me do the pockets. I wonder what’s that? Was that was that money clown.


Speaker 6  51:56

A clip, It’s a Swiss army knife. Don’t worry about it. So when you get to your hotel, boom, you’re all going to a tray. And you can be like, Okay, it’s all there for me to load back up. And then if I want to, and I’m like, You know what, fuck it. I’m not gonna do my whole pocket situation. You just cinch it up like that. Throw it in your bag. Boom. I’m now traveling with it. I know everything that’s in there. I know where everything is. I’m not rooting around. Oh, no. Where’s my pocket knife? Oh, no, where’s my money clip. It’s all there. The best what you hate it.


SuChin Pak  52:43

You just like, like tying it to your belt loop and there’s.


Speaker 6  52:48

I’m not tying it to my belt loop.


Kulap Vilaysack  52:51

But what if you needed to get to one of your 88 knives, you know while you’re traveling around and then you have to get in there to undo it. And then we’ll get you rummaging through that bag. Look at breaking a sweat. I’m rummaging through that bag.


Speaker 6  53:07

A 100 degrees.


SuChin Pak  53:09

Yeah, I’m very hot.


Speaker 6  53:12

Which I am flummoxed. You gotta keep it hot for common. Well, why clip it to my belt loop when I can carry a little carry, around. Now this is a great one. It’s called a hero clip. God damn it. So let’s.


Kulap Vilaysack  53:37

Wait, wait, wait, wait, let me see that. What is that show you Okay. All right.


Speaker 6  53:47

May I have your bag? Oh, God, don’t do it. Thank you, I appreciate it. So let’s say you’ve got your bag and you’re someplace and you’re like, I don’t like this is a lovely place. Beautiful bag. I don’t want to put my bag on the floor. This place is gross.


Kulap Vilaysack  54:07

Here comes the hero clip.


Speaker 6  54:08

You clip it. Boom.


Kulap Vilaysack  54:11

Oh, oh.


Speaker 6  54:15

Now, come up.


Kulap Vilaysack  54:18

That’s good. Gao likes it, Gao I likes it.


Speaker 6  54:22

One go back.


SuChin Pak  54:23

Oh yeah, you’re gonna put that in your pocket. You’re gonna put that that hanger thing that the hook hanger in your pocket?


Speaker 6  54:26

I mean, come on. You wouldn’t carry this around just you love putting your shit on the ground.


SuChin Pak  54:36

I don’t love it. I don’t hate enough to carry that thing around.


Speaker 6  54:40

You’re a ground monster. I am so much tick and what to carry. This isn’t zero. It’s another.


SuChin Pak  54:48

You have so many things in your pockets. No wonder you need to trade. You can’t.


Speaker 6  54:53

This is attached to any bag I have. Like, I just had it in there just so I could grab it. But it can sit again it can be on your back. I pack it can be anywhere. And you got it. You know what? I’m never gonna win you over. And I’m okay know that.


SuChin Pak  55:08

The thing is, is that I am with you and then.


Speaker 6  55:12

In practice.


SuChin Pak  55:13

No, not even in practice in the beginning. I’m with you in the beginning and then, and then you pull out a hook. You know what I mean? Like I understand. Yeah, I understand when I looked at my tray, and I said, yeah, there’s some sort of fluid on the bottom of it clean. You know, probably mouthwash, whatever. Yeah, it’s actually good. Like, I like this thing. You know, it doesn’t cinch up all the way so.


Speaker 6  55:36

Well. I wanna be very clear, then you bet is not for toiletry. There are things that are sealable.


Kulap Vilaysack  55:44

And you got them with zippers. This is a catch all tray. It’s called


Speaker 6  55:51



SuChin Pak  55:52

Oh my Lord. That’s just too much stuff for me to keep track of. But okay. My bad. I’m sorry. I thought this was a thing for toiletries.


Speaker 6  56:04

That’s best.


SuChin Pak  56:10

It felt like it should be like I couldn’t open it.


Speaker 6  56:13

And of course it can find anything you want.


SuChin Pak  56:17

It’s the most.


Speaker 6  56:18

I agree with you in a sense that it doesn’t cinch airtight so anything liquid inside it, you are in danger of it getting out.


SuChin Pak  56:25

I’m glad we can agree on that.


Speaker 6  56:29

We are gonna make out.


SuChin Pak  56:33

Things are heating up. It’s very odd.


Kulap Vilaysack  56:35

Now, Jason, normally, we know what our guests is bringing but this is all this is.


Speaker 6  56:45

I just threw a bunch of stuff in the bag. And I figured we’d run through it.


Speaker 6  56:48

Yeah, I love it.


Speaker 6  56:49

By the way, if people have I don’t know if you guys do this, I’m I’m open for questions. If you’ve got if you’ve got cube cues.


SuChin Pak  56:58

We have a mic. We have a mic off, off stand. Yes. No here.


Speaker 6  57:03

So if people do feel free, but I’m gonna run through some stuff.


Kulap Vilaysack  57:06

Okay, let’s see. Let’s see what’s in this this.


Speaker 6  57:08

Okay, so this is so I did a lot of like, when we did it last time, we talked a lot about packing cubes for clothes, shoes, etc. But I also like pouches for the rest of stuff. Okay.


SuChin Pak  57:20

For the what?


Speaker 6  57:21

For like the rest of the stuff. So this is a company called ever goods make these. And it’s like, it’s just stuff doesn’t fall out. It looks like this, right? And it’s got like little compartments for lots of different stuff.


Kulap Vilaysack  57:36

So have you guys you see how he’s beaming. He’s the most alive. I’ve known this man for so long.


Speaker 6  57:43

I hear about this more than I care about everyone I know.


Kulap Vilaysack  57:48

And I feel that.


Speaker 6  57:52

So for example, and just this is like for me, like I throw this in the thing that I bring on the plane and it’s got stuff that I need on the plane in it. Now here’s another thing I’ll talk about. This thing is called an air fly. Anybody use this? Okay, so this is you know what? This is my listening. Oh boy, my listening. So you take this thing? You’re on an airplane. Go ahead.


SuChin Pak  58:16

So is this your what would you call this pouch? Is your airplane travel pouch is your tech pouch. What is this pouch in your mind? How do you or would you see this pouch or like oh, that’s my,


Speaker 6  58:28

Okay, well, this. This is a this is a pouch that I carry when I’m traveling all the time. Okay, so it’s your travel. It’s like it’s on me. It’s in the seat. When I’m on the airplane. It comes with me to wherever it’s not like packed away in the suitcase. It’s you take it out my backpack or whatever. And then I put it in and then I have everything that I want it my seat. I put in a tote bag and I put the tote bag in my backpack so when I get there, pull the tote bag out backpack goes above.


SuChin Pak  58:57

Bags and bags and bags and bags. It’s Yes.


Speaker 6  59:00

Okay, so this thing you plug it into the headphone jack on the plane, and it pairs with your Bluetooth headphones. So you don’t yeah, oh now people are on board.


Kulap Vilaysack  59:12

By the way, most of these people are on board you.


Speaker 6  59:15

Here who wasn’t on board. It’s like okay, I get it. I don’t have to get pink ear from the headphones that the airplane gives.


Kulap Vilaysack  59:25

Its a different choice.


Speaker 6  59:26

It’s a great thing and you can pair multiple headphones to it you can do whatever you want with it. But it’s super simple, super easy. And it’s it’s called Air fly right? Anybody’s used it speak up right? I’ve got one of these little guys, which has multiple every single and you could need to charge all your stuff in one in one cable.


SuChin Pak  59:51

My brother in law has never concentrated more. He’s straining his neck to look around the corner here. are cursing himself for getting a bad seat.


Speaker 6  1:00:02

I’ve got cho psticks.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:00:03

Oh boy. I’ve got wow I did not see that coming.


Speaker 6  1:00:08

I know you did. And boom, suddenly you’re traveling you get some meal and a they give you flimsy cutlery that breaks or they don’t did by the way. Guess what? They don’t give you any more plastic spoons and nonsense. Here we go. Collapsible chopsticks, Great. Oh look a bunch of Ziplock bags. Where are you upset? You love Ziplock bag?


SuChin Pak  1:00:35

Yeah, but I don’t I don’t understand the size of those. What is what is this?


Speaker 6  1:00:40

You don’t understand? Wait, you don’t understand that Ziplock bags come in different sizes.


SuChin Pak  1:00:44

No, I don’t understand why you just can’t take the ziplock bag that’s in your drawer of whatever size it is and use that for what are you going to use that for?


Speaker 6  1:00:52

So you’re telling me Yeah, again, I just want to I boy do I wish I could be like click click and just run through a slideshow of the pictures. You yourself indicting yourself have sent which is like 3d like a chapstick. Something else and some other random thing in a gallon freezer bag. So much extraneous Ziploc bag.


SuChin Pak  1:01:17

I just scroll down, I roll it down. And then I put a rubber band around it.


Speaker 6  1:01:22

And I’m meanwhile like, I’ll just put them in, this the perfect size for those things.


SuChin Pak  1:01:28

Oh, just like a chapstick now. Okay, I don’t want to we gotta move on because we have to get on with our lives. I just, I swear this is the last interruption about this, but like, oh,


Speaker 6  1:01:40

I can’t imagine it will be I think we all know that.


SuChin Pak  1:01:44

That, that travel case is so confusing to me already. There’s There’s no rhyme or reason to that case. Now you’ve got empty Ziploc bags in there with there.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:01:54

Is only rhyme and reason to it.


SuChin Pak  1:01:56

Not to me. I don’t that is an org chart that just I cannot wrap my head around.


Speaker 6  1:02:03

I don’t you’re blowing my mind. Is this a prank? The whole point of this is organization you are arguing for chaos as your, your packing style is nihilism. Let me ask you this. How often? SuChin, how often when you get to your destination? Have you forgotten something all the time? That’s what I never do.


SuChin Pak  1:02:35

I choose to forget things because I know there’s going to be a target or a CVS.


Speaker 6  1:02:40

Badly what you want to do on vacation is the finding a target a CVS any of those things that’s that’s, that’s on the.


SuChin Pak  1:02:48

On the itinerary. First thing out of the cab. I say can you make a stop before we go to the hotel? I look up Is there a target of CVS or whatever in your country.


Speaker 6  1:02:59

What if you live in a world. Where once you got to your destination, you could enjoy it and not be thinking oh fuck, I forgot a toothbrush. Oh fuck. There’s dogshit on the shoes that were packed next to all of my loose underwear. Yeah, I agree everybody who’s saying, it’s gross. And that’s how SuChi lives.


SuChin Pak  1:03:27

Not everyone can handle it I get it not everyone can live free like this. Not everyone not everyone can take all the things and drink all the things and and thrive with it. I will be here at the end of the world. I will be here and you my friend will be in the house as the zombies are coming me like I’m gonna be right there. I just got a vision and I’m done. I’m gone. I’m gone with shit on my handles. By the way it’s fucking a mouthwash in my glass case.


Speaker 6  1:04:10

With a bunch of whatever. Get it in the tray. I have grabbed my zombie go bag which is already packed.


SuChin Pak  1:04:23

Nobody has time for those zippers.


Speaker 6  1:04:25

And I’m outthe door.


SuChin Pak  1:04:29

Hold on, You open the bag guess what’s in there another fucking bag.


Speaker 6  1:04:38



SuChin Pak  1:04:39

And you’re dead. You’re dead. I’m thriving and my seed spreads and the world continues.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:04:47

You what?


Speaker 6  1:04:52

Actually love you to break that down.


SuChin Pak  1:04:58

You know just a General you know, kind of like, not my actual seed but I thrive I live and and my seedlings are planted.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:05:09

So you’re repopulating the earth?


SuChin Pak  1:05:11

That’s right. While he’s dead because he’s on his 48 zipper trying to get to his 18th knife that’s like hidden in something.


Speaker 6  1:05:19

But knives are usually in my pocket.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:05:22

You know they’re in the tray they’re in the tray you don’t know if there are things.


Speaker 6  1:05:27

Well then at least I know where the tray Wow, this is chemistry, this is what they call in the biz.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:05:39

I haven’t been this relaxed in a while. I was nervous and now I feel chill.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:05:47

For me. My voice is rested and relaxed. I feel, I feel also sprightly.


Speaker 6  1:05:53

Well it’s perfect you are mediating you are I’m barely mediate is couples counseling for SuChin I’m rooting for them.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:06:07

Give us one more thing one more cube.


Speaker 6  1:06:09

Only one?


SuChin Pak  1:06:11

We want. God


Kulap Vilaysack  1:06:12

Please. Is it merino wool. What did you I didn’t.


Speaker 6  1:06:15

Bring any merino wool stuff I should have. I know that’s true. I like this pouch. I’m going to do a few more things. I’ll do some quick hit.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:06:22

Great. Let’s go, let’s go.


Speaker 6  1:06:24

And when you unfold it it sits up like this.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:06:28

Like everyone’s.


SuChin Pak  1:06:29

Why are you guys at the back, standing up, why are you standing up nothing is happening up here.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:06:36

You can see your friends in the back or what’s mining in their head? Yeah.


Speaker 6  1:06:41

Tech stuff in it and the thing I wanted to I like I like.


SuChin Pak  1:06:44

This doesn’t have tech stuff in it.


Speaker 6  1:06:46

I like this stuff but I like having a white noise machine when I travel.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:06:50

SuChin you can relate, you can connect to the SuChin.


Speaker 6  1:06:54

Because hotels are impossible all I do is hear other people’s doors slamming and whatever white noise machine boom.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:07:03

SuChin, meet him where he’s at. What do you bring to every trip. SuChin Pak.


SuChin Pak  1:07:16

Yeah, that’s yeah, okay.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:07:19

You, you have won you over she doesn’t she needs it.


SuChin Pak  1:07:23

Sweet sweet music Yeah, okay. Listen, I’ve always liked you I know I’ve never met you I knew from the second you appeared on the Zoom I said this is someone that I like and I of course you travel with it you’re not a monster I take it back I take it back.


Speaker 6  1:07:39

No, I’m a monster but I’m a monster for good, I’m a benevolent monster, and also in this isn’t a great travel with an Apple TV.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:07:52

Oh my god you guys.


Speaker 6  1:07:54

Every hotel you can plug it in. Guess what? You’re watching your fucking shows. Travel with an Apple TV. Why the hell not?


SuChin Pak  1:08:05

All those people that clapped when you brought that out have now left the room. I cannot believe you are traveling with.


Speaker 6  1:08:14

With an Apple TV and a white noise machine.


SuChin Pak  1:08:16

Now the white noise machine I get the Apple TV.


Speaker 6  1:08:20

Oh, it is a game changer. Yeah, it was a game changer because you just plug it into any it takes 40 seconds to plug it in and then you’re not subject to the nonsense and guess what I’m not going to do login using my name and password. You know how many times I’ve been in a hotel and opened up the TV and someone is still logged in? And I’m like guess what, buddy? You’re about to have watched a lot of Bosch, I’m just fucking with people’s algorithms. Just so I can watch boss wherever I am. Guess what? I bring my own Apple TV.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:08:52

Why leave your house then?


Speaker 6  1:08:54

I have to, that I don’t want to leave my house for years.


SuChin Pak  1:09:00

Traveling is, is, is, is, you know.


SuChin Pak  1:09:04

Going to target.


Speaker 6  1:09:07

Finding pharmacy.


SuChin Pak  1:09:09

What did you bring? You brought the right shoe but did you bring the left one I don’t know. Like growling is it’s it’s about letting loose getting rid of your playlists and your, you know and whatever other wires you have in there. You know what I mean? Just breathing in the air, the funk?


Speaker 6  1:09:28

I do all of that. And I don’t have to figure out how I’m gonna get to a pharmacy because I didn’t get I didn’t bring any of this stuff I or I didn’t arrive with only one shoe and have to figure out oh fuck, I gotta go buy shoes now. Anybody monopoly deal after I talked about it last night? Anybody get into monopoly deal.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:09:49

Really fun. Really? Ruins. Ruins great.


Speaker 6  1:09:53

I love it. Here’s another game. left right and center anybody? Great game, especially great game, if you’ve got a bunch of kids, like around a table, it’s very fun. Everybody gets very into it. It is a very low stakes betting game, it comes with little chips, everybody gets three chips, and everybody rolls three dice. And you either keep a chip, you’d send a chip to your left your right or into the main pot, last person with a chip wins the pot. Now, if you don’t do the chips, but you put down three single dollar bills in front of everybody, that pot starts to get pretty interesting. And if you’ve got a bunch of kids around the table, and you put down three $20 bills in front of yourself, those kids will go nuts, it’s a blast. It’s super quick. It’s super fun. It’s super rowdy, and the rounds go quick. And it’s a very fun game. And it’s just like this, it cost nothing. It’s left, right and center everybody.


SuChin Pak  1:10:48



Speaker 6  1:10:49

And I’m gonna suggest one more thing.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:10:50

One more thing.


SuChin Pak  1:10:51

Adding to cart as we’re sitting here.


Speaker 6  1:10:53

This book is called The Case of the Missing men. It’s a fantastic graphic novel that I can’t recommend enough, but it looks like this. It’s gorgeous. It’s basically what if Nancy Drew and the Hardy Boys existed in Twin Peaks. What if it was kid detectives in a truly supernaturally bizarre small town in Nova Scotia it’s fantastic get involved Fuck you guys.


Kulap Vilaysack  1:11:22

Well I guess that’s the end of Zouk’s cube but also thank you so much for coming to our first live Add to Cart. This was so fun. I hope you enjoyed yourself thank you to Nuihouse Hollywood. Thank you to SuChin Pak. I have a great night everybody.


CREDITS  1:11:48

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