The Messy In-Between

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SuChin and Kulap are in the in-between: In between the ocean and the bathroom, in between menopause and their 30s, in between bikinis and unshapely one pieces (or catsuits). This week, they run the gamut of topics, from where it’s appropriate to pee to hot new anniversary ideas to what boxes are best for moving and not attracting rats. Plus, listener voicemails!

 

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SPEAKERS

Ann, Molly, Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak

SuChin Pak  00:11

Welcome to ADD TO CART. Now this is a show about the things we buy all the things we buy into and what they say about who we are. I’m Susan SuChin Pak.

Kulap Vilaysack

And I’m Kulap Vilaysack, we want to start this episode off by highlighting you, you sweet, sweet, sweet listeners. So we’re going to play a couple of voicemails before we get into our Add To Cart. SuChin, we are mixing it up.

SuChin Pak 

All right, well, the first is a suggestion that comes from and I’m actually a little scared.

Kulap Vilaysack 

So am I, my butthole is tight.

SuChin Pak 

That’s not usual for you. You’d like to keep it loose.

Kulap Vilaysack 

I do.

Ann

Let’s listen. Hi, my name is Anne, my pronouns are she her and yes, you do have my permission to use the audio. So I just finished listening to take a shower episode. And I do consider myself a bit of a shower kind of sore. I love a good shower. It’s part of my self-care routine. And I just wanted to provide another level of elevation to your shower. So I like to do what I call a standing bath, which is effectively a shower yes, but it’s sort of all of the accoutrements that you guys have discussed. So good sense all of your scrubs, things like that. But there is another layer. This is good for Saturday night’s nighttime showers. So set up your shower as you would, lights off, whole thing lights off, say for perhaps a candle if you need it.

Ann 

Sometimes I don’t even do that. I just go in blind. Lights off. It’s a total sensory experience. Also, you must bring a cocktail in with you. Now this might not jive with SuChin just in that you do have to sort of luxuriate in a lot of water running. So not necessarily in line with some conservation. However, it is delightful, play some music, have your cocktail, and then you’re not left with all of the setup and the cleanup and the prep of an actual bath. So I highly recommend this at minimum just to dark showers if a cocktail is not for you. So just an idea. Thank you guys. I love the podcast.

Kulap Vilaysack  02:25

Okay, I love this. This is a sensory deprivation shower.

SuChin Pak 

This sounds dangerous. This is how either two things happen. A horror movie starts, okay, because you don’t know what’s in the dark there. Number two, Kuku or Susu slips, you know, and cocktail slips and busts, you know, the back of her head and then she’s bleeding out. So when she first started, I thought she was going to say, fill up your bathtub and stand.

Kulap Vilaysack 

But you had to let her finish. You had to let her finish.

SuChin Pak 

Because I was like oh, okay, the water doesn’t get dirty. You could dip your butt. Like a dip.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Oh my god, guys, I was this was amazing what I just saw her do with it. She sort of shrugging her shoulders up and down. So let me kind of get the sense of her by being like a little teabag that was coming in and out of the water now, and I love this. It does seem dangerous, but I feel like you’ve maybe figured something out. And I want to know how you did? Did your lights go out? Was it a rolling blackout? How did you discover this? I need a follow up and I need you to leave another voicemail.

SuChin Pak 

Well, I’m all for the sensory deprivation. I could see how that could be very relaxing. I don’t think I could relax. But I see how that could be for someone who regularly feel safe that that could be relaxing.

Kulap Vilaysack  04:13

What I also love is a couple of phrases and I wrote them down. I wrote three things out actually. This is for Saturday night.

SuChin Pak 

I love a specific, a very specific self-care process.

Kulap Vilaysack 

I also like you’re gonna go in blind, and I’m gonna shower you don’t expect that, no one expected that.

SuChin Pak 

That’s where you lost me there.

Kulap Vilaysack 

And then I circled cocktail. Now for SuChin, why it’s less for her to is she generally showers in the day. Like if you are a listener of our podcasts, you know it’s going to hit around the 3PM-4PM block. And regardless of time zone the sun is still out. And what I promise you is that I will do this and I will record the audio on my phone.

SuChin Pak 

Okay, but just tell someone you’re doing it in case you go quote unquote dark for a little too long. Tell Scott, this is what you’re doing just to give a little knock on the door every, you know, five minutes.

Kulap Vilaysack 

I’m gonna call SuChin and SuChin’s gonna record the entire experience.

SuChin Pak 

I’ll do that. I would love to do that. To hear my little songbird gurgling in a standing bath, drunk and swaying in pitch darkness. But then, if I hear something go wrong, what do I do? I call Scott?

Kulap Vilaysack

You call Scott. And if he doesn’t respond, then you call 911. And you stay on the line.

SuChin Pak  06:03

I’m on a landline, Ku.

Kulap Vilaysack 

You haven’t purchase through a calling on your landline?

SuChin Pak 

Listen, I’m going to use the landline if it gets dicey. And I have to 911 it. I will record you on my cell phone. How about that?

Kulap Vilaysack 

All right, there we go. Thank you Anne, so much. This is pretty great. This is exciting to me.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Our next voicemail is from Molly.

Molly 

Hi, my name is Molly. I’ve been obsessed with the podcast since it started. And I have been trying to reduce plastic and get as many reusable products as possible. Although my husband has asked that I don’t switch over to reusable q-tips. Especially all of my makeup sponges like etc. But reusable Ziploc bags and other everyday items. But I wanted to hear more about other products that you all have found helpful. I know you touched on it a bit on one of the budget buy episodes, but we’d love to hear more or a whole episode dedicated to it. Oh, longtime listener. First time caller. Thanks. Bye.

SuChin Pak

I actually got chills from that it made me so happy. The thing that comes to mind with this, and it’s not exactly answering the question, but it’s sort of answering the question. You know, I used to host a green show on Discovery.

Kulap Vilaysack 

What was it called?

SuChin Pak 

It was, I don’t remember.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Oh, gosh, you’re actually gonna make me IMDb right now?

SuChin Pak 

It was on a network that no longer exists. Also a specialty of mine. I come on a network that has launched and then it disappears. Like a network, not a show network. It was like called like Planet Green or something on the Discovery Channel. Oh, thank you, Claire. That show was called G-word.

Kulap Vilaysack  08:00

Guys, there was an episode called Ice Baby episode called Solazyme one called Eco Drag Racing. All right. 40 episodes SuChin Pak, 2008, Oh, worm poop.

SuChin Pak

Yes. Oh, worm poop. I do remember that. That’s amazing. That’s the composting. I did composting for a while with the worm poop. But anyway. And this is not answering the question, but it sort of answers the question, one of the biggest ways that we can make an impact on the environment is by eating less red meat. I don’t know the exact statistics. But like if you cut it by half, it’s as if you were driving an electric car all the time or something major like that. I think in this country, particularly we love to eat red meat, but you may already be a vegetarian or vegan. So what I’m saying is it sounds like she’s kind of doing everything, right. Cuz I don’t have any more suggestions. Like all those things are things that are great.

Kulap Vilaysack

Well, you do SuChin, its hair story, right? Hair story, you know, you can purchase a reusable container. You introduced me to blue land products. Cleaning products, hand products, where you use beautiful reusable glass containers and these tablets that you drop into hot water and become dishwashing liquid become hand soap. That lessens your waste as well. I know this, this may be controversial to SuChin as I bring it up because again, you know, I know her habits and such. And we do the best that we can, right? And so another thing would be to move away from fast fashion, which is very disposable. It’s not good for the environment, and to reuse, recycle and buy things of higher quality that can be reused and recycled.

Kulap Vilaysack 

But I think Molly is a good idea of  just like our favorite for SuChin and I had to go look back at you know, look at our homes and pick our favorite products and do a show on that. I think that’s a great idea.

SuChin Pak  10:11

Thank you guys. Oh my goodness, keep it coming. As always, please leave us a voicemail. Questions, suggestions, dark, dark baths, anything at all call us at 833-453-6662.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Okay, we’re gonna take a quick break. And then when we come back, we’ll get into our Add To Cart.

SuChin Pak 

Welcome back to add to cart. Okay, for me, I’m bringing some things here to discuss that are still a part of the summer list. This whole thing may be cut out because this is the category of you know, is this weird? Is this inappropriate? I truly don’t know. We were at the beach yesterday as a family. And as you know, when I go to the beach, I come prepared. And that means I poise it up, you know? But you know, my son, he had to go to the bathroom really badly. And the bathrooms were closed. The water’s cold, he has sprained his ankle. We are not prepared for him to go into the ocean and relieve himself. So Mike, and him dug a hole in the sand. And then he laid on top of the hole as if he was contemplating the beauty of the waves. And he pulled down his pants. He peed in the hole. And then they covered it up. And if you go to the Google Doc there I took a picture of it.

Kulap Vilaysack  12:03

Yeah, I mean, it’s just yeah, he’s face is towards the sand. He looks fully clothed. He looks like he’s doing I don’t know what that yoga pose is. Is that the half Cobra. It’s very casual, none the wiser. What is happening. It’s an appropriate photo. And now I know the context.

SuChin Pak 

If you were walking by this, you would think oh, look at that young lad. Really just taking in a good time at the beach, and I was dying. I was laughing so hard at this. I couldn’t wait to bring it to you, to the jury of my peers. Like, Is this okay to pee like this at the beach? And is this a normal way to pee at the beach?

Kulap Vilaysack 

I’m gonna answer, I really want everybody to go to Add To Cart Pod and respond to SuChin of course. But let me my thoughts in extraordinary circumstances. I think it’s okay. I do not think it’s normal. I think generally like; I don’t think it’s encouraged like you’re not gonna see like the park create some sort of diagram on how to do that. You know, we should bring Claire on. She’s more of a woman of the outdoors.

SuChin Pak

Producer Claire. Have you seen this method of peeing at the beach?

Kulap Vilaysack 

Claire’s written, that’s a hard no, a hard no.

SuChin Pak 

My follow up. Question is, is this sort of genius?

Kulap Vilaysack 

I don’t think it’s a platform. If that’s what you’re wondering. I think on a sort of an anecdote with between friends and family, I mean, I guess it’s, you know, I don’t know if it’s a life hack.

SuChin Pak  14:00

I don’t know. I don’t know. So I bring it to you. And we shall see if this makes the final cut. Because we may hear from a Parks and Rec person that they do not want us to encourage people.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Wait, so are you suggesting that we submit this to the national park and see before we air it?

SuChin Pak 

This is what I’m hoping will happen. I’m hoping you produce Claire, myself, as we are editing this particular episode, you know, and as we chat with our friends, and we say Oh, hey, yeah, a friend of mine did a funny thing and we take up just like let’s just take a casual poll.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Poll. Got it. Got it. Okay, okay. Let’s be critical thinkers here. Dogs, animals, they pee on the beach, right? We as humans should know better, but they do pee on the beach. And yeah, you’re not supposed to pee in the ocean. Many people do. Many people do.

SuChin Pak 

You’re not supposed to pee in the ocean. Is that a thing?

Kulap Vilaysack

Well, I don’t know. It’s just kind of like, we don’t actually live in the ocean like a fish does. We have cognitive.

SuChin Pak 

This is your conjecture. This is your biography. This isn’t from like a campers. You know what I mean? Parks and Rec, guys. You don’t pee in pools. We know that. But the ocean. I mean, everyone, all the animals are peeing in the ocean.

Kulap Vilaysack 

I know. But like that’s their home. Like we’re entering and like us destructive humans. We’re literally defecating in other people’s homes.

SuChin Pak 

Again, there is a clear line between urinating and defecating. Nobody is advocating for defecation. Don’t bring that to ADD TO CART. Don’t put that in our feed. We’re not encouraging that. That’s not we’re talking about, Kulap.

Kulap Vilaysack 

We have a bathroom, sprained ankle or not. We want you to pee in that bathroom. Not in the ocean.

SuChin Pak  16:02

There was no bathroom.

Kulap Vilaysack  16:03

I know, but like I’m saying in a normal situation.

SuChin Pak 

Don’t be a barbarian. Don’t pee in some you know manta ray’s home. Like Kulap says don’t go through the dolphins kitchen. Yeah, no, you think human bowl and flesh it, but if there is nothing.

Kulap Vilaysack

All that said, you know, have I ever just like I really gotta go. So I’m gonna just pop a squat wherever I may be out of sight.

SuChin Pak

I’ve done that. I’ve done that everyone has. That is the human condition. Everyone has done that.

Kulap Vilaysack 

I’m no, I’m no, you know, no pee Angel.

SuChin Pak

All right, moving on. Moving on to a more practical and less controversial Add To Cart. I’ve been I’ve been doing this thing now that things are slightly opening up and possibly shutting down again, in that in between time I have been taken in this new town I live in. I’ve been here for almost two years and have not seen one single damn thing because we’ve been stuck in our home. So on Sundays, I pick a block downtown here in Santa Barbara and I just do a stroll. Just to see, just to see what my new town has to offer. And this one was a great find. But it was sort of half introduced to me by a friend of mine who gifted me these Turkish towels from Riviera towel company. So just click on the link there.

Kulap Vilaysack  18:00

I love it.

SuChin Pak 

I know you love a towel. This is why I was so excited now. I have never had a towel so soft on my skin. And these towels. So this Riviera towel company is based in Santa Barbara. And I you know I’ve heard of Turkish towels, but I didn’t know what they were and so for those that don’t know, Turkish towels are colorful textiles woven from the softest sustainable cotton grown on Earth. At least that’s the case at Riviera towel company. I mean, this is sort of a deep dive if you’re really into this kind of stuff. I know a lot of you are and so I bring this to you. But the other thing that I really loved about this company as I was walking around was the second link, which is they make these caftans cool.

SuChin Pak

I know you love a kaftan. I love a kaftan. We talked about this with June and Jess about sort of our vacation fantasy person and my vision of fantasy person is always in a caftan and these Kaftans are so soft, and they’re so beautiful. And they come in lots of different prints. They’re made from the softest cotton so I just thought it was a great find. It was a great local find. For everything that you buy, they also donate to all these organizations that help keep the ocean clean. Speaking of maybe that should be a person I asked.

Kulap Vilaysack 

So you’re gonna call the shop in Santa Barbara. Excuse me, got to give you some feedback. Love, love, love. Love the Kaftan’s. I was wondering I was kind of separate, slightly related question for you.

SuChin Pak 

You love the ocean. You make donations all the time. Here we go. Stay with me as I make this turn.

Kulap Vilaysack 

No, this isn’t a prank call. No, no, no, I really am genuinely asking. Wait, no, I have to talk to somebody else? Okay.

SuChin Pak

Making the rounds that they Riviera towel company. But super, super great little find.

Kulap Vilaysack  20:05

I’d like to see a photo of you.

SuChin Pak 

In this beautiful Kaftan?

Kulap Vilaysack 

Yeah, it’s like a butterfly in the wind.

SuChin Pak 

I mean, do I wear it over baggy jeans? I’m just warning you.

Kulap Vilaysack 

You wear leggings for everything else, but under a Kaftan. She’s got to wear those boyfriend jeans.

SuChin Pak 

I’m just saying a Kaftan can be thrown over anything in my fashion book. It’s not everybody’s favorite chapter. Okay, I get it. Shut it. It’s mine. All right. Finally, summer is also for me the time for moving. Okay, I was trying to recall how many times I’ve moved in the last three years I have moved. I moved out of my house three years ago, I’ve done two furnished rentals. I’ve done one vacation rental, I have couch surf with my kids, two different friends’ homes. One of my friends home then one in my sister in law’s house. I’ve done three long term hotel stays, I’m about to enter my third. And so we’re moving again. And hopefully I dear God Kulap. Let this be the last time I move. We are now moving into finally a home of our own. We haven’t had one in a while.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Congrats on that part.

SuChin Pak 

Thank you, I’ve become very good at moving and storing things. Okay, so I’ve learned a few things. And I just wanted to share. There’s nothing sexy here. It’s just practical good advice. We’re not using cardboard boxes, cardboard boxes, they have dust, they have moisture. Rats are really attracted to them. They’re just not great. So, have you ever used this company called Really Useful Box? Okay, it’s a UK based company, their plastic storage containers that come in all different shapes and sizes. I wouldn’t say they’re easy to find. But, Office Depot has them some Office Max, you know, there are certain places in the US that have these. So if you see these, and if you see them on sale, which they are at Office Depot, by the way, 20% off, I would suggest trying these out. These are storage boxes you will have Forever, forever and ever. They’re that well made. They stack, they come in lots of different sizes, the handles are really sturdy, and they lock in place.

SuChin Pak  22:42

And if for some reason the handle breaks, you can go to the site and just buy the handle. So these are great for indoor storage boxes. And then you have the storage boxes that you have outdoors. So they’re either in a storage shed or in your garage. And these are just the 27-gallon tough storage bin and black. And they’re waterproof. And I mean, these have been with us for years. Anything that needs to be outdoors, we’ll put in these so I could go on and on about storage bins. Yeah. And maybe I’ll do like an Instagram post because I’ve, I’ve got lots of storage bin tips you should and how to move and store, your wardrobe and all of that. So all this stuff I’ve learned from moving so many times.

Kulap Vilaysack

So many times, when I move, so this isn’t about storage. It’s more about like packing from one house and unpacking from another I use reusable bins that they drop off for me and pick up.

SuChin Pak 

Oh from like a moving company? I didn’t know they did that. Because I’ve never used a moving company. I always do the moving.

Kulap Vilaysack

Well, it’s not a it’s a it’s a company specifically for these bins separate for moving company. But it’s separate from the bins so that I can pack so that I know I it so it’s not really storage. It’s just packing and packing. Does that make sense?

SuChin Pak  24:08

Yeah, moving. Yeah. That’s a really good tip. I want to know what that is.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Yes. And also, it’s not about you putting anything into storage, because you’re renting it by the week or by the day.

Kulap Vilaysack 

All right, we’re back on Add To Cart. SuChin, let’s go into my add to carts.

Kulap Vilaysack 

SuChin, have you ever seen the Bong Joon-ho movie Memories Of Murder?

SuChin Pak 

I have. I know. Wait. So this is the Korean one right?

Kulap Vilaysack 

Oh, yeah. 2003 South Korean crime thriller co-written and directed by Oscar winning Bong Joon-ho, so it’s loosely based on The True Story of Korea’s first confirmed serial murders which took place between around 1986 and 1991. So so good. Song Kang-Ho and Kim Sang-Kyung star as Detective Park and Detective So. They’re the two detectives trying to solve the crimes Song Kang-Ho is the dad from Parasite. Man that face. This is the second feature directed by Bong like to be able to transcend language in the way that he does. This man is such an artist the way he draws you in. And he was like that mean this he was a young man, when he made this film. I just was so taken not only by the story, but just the filmmaking.

SuChin Pak 

I don’t know the story. So tell me the story behind it.

Kulap Vilaysack  26:01

Okay, get ready to get some chills. Okay, so this film was made in 2003. Again, these murders were at least known between 86 and 91. But recently, in 2020, they finally caught the guy that was doing it. And this man. He was already in jail. He’s been in jail for kidnapping, raping and murdering his sister-in-law. He said that he was surprised he wasn’t caught sooner. So, essentially, in the small town, women of many ages ranging from elderly women 70s 80s, two young girls 12 years old, were found murdered, bound, specifically raped, and they couldn’t find the person. There were many suspects. One person was put in jail for 20 years, and has recently been released since the confession. It was a time where technology wasn’t in place.

Kulap Vilaysack

And the reason why the killer was found was because of DNA testing. And the advances we’ve made. I think it’s coming to light. It’s not only the murders that they were aware of, there was many more. So the true crime element of it, which was the film’s inspiration, plus this like this true crime being solved also gives this such a weight when I like watch the movie, and I was like I do kind of remember, like the headline a year or two ago but having not seen the film it didn’t stick. So once I saw the film, I was like, let me go through this and like what’s all the information, and I just was like, this is the full night for me just going down like a rabbit hole.

SuChin Pak  28:09

Certainly in a country that has so little crime that this is so shocking, you know, to go from basically you can sleep on the street, you know, passed out drunk and nothing will happen to you, your wallet will be you know there, you’ll be fine to then going to serial murders. And then there was that movie, which was based on a Japanese short story about burning, remember Burning? That was also sort of inspired by this time of the serial murders happening in South Korea.

Kulap Vilaysack 

I’m not familiar. I don’t know this.

SuChin Pak

It’s the one with Steven Yeun.

Kulap Vilaysack 

That’s what I thought yeah, I need to see it.

SuChin Pak 

Oh, you haven’t seen Burning?

Kulap Vilaysack 

No. I need to see it.

SuChin Pak

Oh my god. Well, it’s Steven Yeun. You could watch it on mute. Just he’s, I mean, sorry. Let’s just tangent. Unless you say, okay, the movie is gruesome. It’s creepy. It’s a definite fun watch. And it’s hard. And he’s the hottest he’s ever been in his life in that movie. He’s the hottest he has ever been in his life, add to cart. Add To Cart.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Okay, the other thing I want to talk about add to cart is I’m planning an anniversary road trip with Scott. We’re going to do our own version of the route 66 west to east so from west to Chicago.

SuChin Pak

You are I mean, I have I it’s my tear ducts. A little bit. There’s a little bit, you’re so cute. And you’re such a romantic and the both of you just still salivating for each other. It warms my heart and it makes me vomit. Oh, I don’t even know how cute is this? Okay, tell me everything.

Kulap Vilaysack  30:12

So, Scott last week, Scott, I don’t know, we were, you know, doing our comic book club with Jason Mantzoukas. And how did it even come up? Like, I have no idea. But then Scott mentioned that he was thinking about us doing a road trip to route 66. I was like you; I’ve never heard you talk about this. And then it’s started to sort of build up steam and like, well, what would we do is like, oh, well, I’ve always wanted to see the Grand Canyon. Oh, yeah. Let’s go to the Grand Canyon. All right, well, maybe we go to Sedona first. And then we just started to look at how other people have done the Mother Road, which I love that it’s called the Mother Road. And what are the fun places we could stop to, from, you know, again, the beauty of the Grand Canyon, the vastness of that, to seeing a museum, a root statistics museum about barbed wire, aka the devil’s rope.

Kulap Vilaysack

In where I think it’s somewhere in Oklahoma, it’s been so fun to plan this trip. Yes. because the symbol of Americana, of freedom of expansion. I have this need and desire for adventure, I have this need and desire to break out of the monotony of my day to day of this situation we all find ourselves in. I like this idea of me and Scott, shaking it up. And normally, a vacation for us is setting up in a resort not doing any activity. Just being by the pool drinking this is so opposite what we’re planning is essentially like flying into Phoenix, renting a car that we will be in for eight days. And that’s yeah, yeah. And that’s a series of go to a place check into a hotel, hours of driving miles and miles. Like what our playlists, podcasts, you know, all of that. And I like have become obsessed with the idea.

SuChin Pak  32:28

I mean, I love this. It’s amazing. What are you going to do in the car, like you guys are going to talk? Like, the thought of being trapped in a car with someone I know very well, and see all the time.

Kulap Vilaysack 

It’s gonna be interesting, because..

SuChin Pak

Cause you go through the normal topics and the normal things like you’re either going to have like long moments of silence, which is another type of self-discovery. And then then maybe you’ll get to talking about things that you’ve never talked about before. You got a lot of time in the car. I’m nervous.

Kulap Vilaysack 

It’s less a question of, will we have a fight? It’s more like, about what for how long? How many times? You know, and that is interesting, because it’s like, yes, we’ve been quarantined together. But this is a large house, and we can all get our course. And in fact, today, or last night, I screamed at him. And we have not spoken yet today. He’s somewhere I don’t know where doing his podcast, and we haven’t really had like a dust up in a while. And I was like, oh, man, when we are in a car, something’s gonna come up. I think it’s inevitable. I mean, we’re going. I mentioned a little bit, but it’s like flying to Phoenix rent a car. Head to Sedona, go to the Grand Canyon for a day, drive to Gallup, New Mexico, then to Tucumcari which what a great name. Tucumcar, then Oklahoma City. And that basically, before Oklahoma City, we’re gonna stop by Tulsa. And then our plan right now is to kind of get off of Route 66 and start diverging into like big cities and go to Kansas City, St. Louis. And up in Chicago spend some days in Chicago fly home.

SuChin Pak 

I mean, this a making of a rom com. You know?

Kulap Vilaysack  34:44

Like this will be year 13. We’ll be celebrating. It is wild. Like I’ve been with my husband since I was 19 years old. And I’m 41, it’s such a, this relationship it’s something that I’m the most proud of and is truly like my satellite, you know in my space station and like I love him so much but sometimes he drives me so crazy.

SuChin Pak 

You guys have shed and reinvented yourself multiple times and still found each other through all of that

Kulap Vilaysack

And I’m easy until I’m not SuChin, I think you understand what I’m saying. But at the same time, you know our relationship is a long drive. Alright, my final thing is a game changer. Okay, okay, now SuChin Pak last week you brought to us a version of a swimsuit. Yeah, definitely it was it was a swim catsuit. Also you’re like, if you don’t want to swim, catch it, you can have a swim legging. And for an inactive person to bring that to us. It was surprising, in a way. And I’m bringing to you something that I think you’ll find probably surprising. It’s a bathing suit. It is from TA3. And it is a mega sculpting swimsuit. I became aware of it through an Instagram ad.

Kulap Vilaysack  36:22

And I was like, all right, let me try it. Instagram ad I went on their Instagram feed. I was liking all the body types that I saw. And I was like, let me just try it. I got it. And while I while I was waiting, our dear friend through the pod and I met through you Julia Vaughn modeled it on her feed and she loves it. I was like, okay, so this is going to be a really good product. So it was already primed and ready for this to work for me. So I got the Plungee, SuChin. Of course. I like a deep v, my breasts also my short neck it elongates it. It is sculpting in the back it there’s a lace up and you cinch it in.

SuChin Pak 

So wait, what do you mean by sculpting?

Kulap Vilaysack 

My problem areas, my stomach. And so it smoothes holds you in. Core sets you but it’s not uncomfortable. It’s shapewear. It’s swimsuit shapewear

SuChin Pak 

And so is it holding because like part of the reason why I don’t love being in a bathing suit is because you know you got that little the stomach and you know I’m always trying to figure out a way to like not have to suck it in. But this is holding it in like it’s like giving you flat?

Kulap Vilaysack 

Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And by the way, this is I am not new to swimwear. That is shaping. I don’t really wear a bikini anymore. Why? I don’t want to. I just want to be comfortable. I just don’t you know, like I’m, but I still want to look good. I do still feel sexy. But I just generally don’t wear a bikini. And I want to focus on the areas that I want to focus on. I’m like, let me try this. Let me see if it actually works. For you, I would wonder if you should do like let’s see the Lacey.

SuChin Pak  38:32

I’m always interested in shapewear. But this has the dual function of possibly I can put my swim leggings over it and also swimming it.

Kulap Vilaysack 

See, I can also see you wearing a pants so it’s a pants even a baggy pant over it wearing a kimono, wearing a blazer. It is a classic look.

SuChin Pak 

It’s gorgeous. It’s not a trend. You know, it’s not an Instagram trend. Where you know it’s on one of these fast fashion sites and then you’re done with it. No one is going to look bad in a black bathing suit. That is also you know, shapewear

Kulap Vilaysack 

Yes, yes, yes, exactly. Wow. Wow. I did not expect this at all.

SuChin Pak 

A year road trip add to cart just you know, it tingled, I feel more open to adventure. I’m open for you.

Kulap Vilaysack

For you, for me, like man SuChin. Like it’s exactly what you started to say. It’s like, we’re in that in between. I mean, is that the title of this episode that in between that hopeful, messy in between?

SuChin Pak 

In between the ocean and urine, in between menopause and our 30s I mean, we’re in the in between. So let’s, let’s lace it up. Let’s mesh it.

Kulap Vilaysack  40:06

Let’s have fancy Turkish cotton towels that can be sarongs if we want them to Let’s drive the Tucumcari. And hope that like it’s not about the destination. It’s the journey and be titillated and afraid of it all at the same time. I think we can all agree. That words are being said in different cadences with different emphasis. A currence of sadness.

SuChin Pak 

That’s our specialty. That’s the flavor of this podcast, just a current, just a bottom note of sadness. Anyway. top note, top note, we’re plunging it, we’re sinking it.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Last thing before we leave you, a product line that we have brought up before tuk tuk box. And they do, SuChin, what do they do?

SuChin Pak 

They do up South East Asian inspired snacks. So it’s a subscription. What I love about it is that you can go like what is the flavor palette like they give you like funky funky, a little funky and then you know, not funky. It’s so fun to experiment. Tasting all of these snacks. It’s such a fun company. Yeah.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Great for gifts to yourself to other people. We’ve brought them up multiple times before and they are giving our listeners a special discount code AddToCart for 20% off everything that’s Tuk Tuk box, go to their website, pick what you’d like put in the code AddToCart for 20% of everything

SuChin Pak  42:00

Awesome. Thank you guys god I love when people share codes it’s like they’re listening you know? I mean they’re feeling us. All right, that’s it another week. Another episode we did it

Kulap Vilaysack 

Make sure to follow us on Add To Cart pod on Instagram to see pictures of all the products we talked about today to get the links of course, make sure you go into the descriptions wherever you listen to our podcast to get direct links to the products and we are constantly up to stuff on our social media.

SuChin Pak 

Yes we are. You will perhaps see Kulap getting shot in the mouth with alcohol and maybe her friend getting shot in the mouth with fish sauce.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Sriracha. Also I don’t know why last show I called it Sriracha which is really weird. It’s Sriracha I don’t know. Also make sure to follow us wherever you’re listening and give us a review and rating it helps other listeners find the show.

SuChin Pak

All right, thanks so much. See you guys next time. Bye.

CREDITS

ADD TO CART is a production of Lemonada Media. Our producer is Claire Jones and our editor is Ivan Kuraev. The music is by Wasahhbii and produced by La Made It and Oh So Familiar with additional music by APM music. Executive producers are Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak, Jessica Cordova Kramer and Stephanie Wittels Wachs. Be sure to check out all the items we mentioned today on our Instagram at @AddToCartPod. Also, please take a moment to rate, review, and subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcast.

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