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From rat girl to brat summer, the Aunties are still their authentic – if deranged – selves. And as moms, that only goes up by 100. Ku is getting ready to fly with Eme, and she’s ready to throw shame to the winds with her latest purchase. Meanwhile, Su peels back the onion layers and shows us her core. Plus, Joellen Russell of Science Moms joins them to talk about the power moms have to fight climate change.

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• Eme is tapping into her artistic side with the Ooly Chunkies Quick Drying Tempera Paint Sticks 
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Transcript

SPEAKERS

Joellen Russell, Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak

Kulap Vilaysack  00:10

Welcome back to Add To Cart, I’m your auntie Kulap Vilaysack.

 

SuChin Pak  00:14

And I’m your other auntie, Suchin Pak boy, where is summer going?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  00:20

Oh, it’s going too fast, friend, I know this is, your time of pleasure, as is it’s mine. I’ve had a great summer so far, so I don’t want to let it go.

 

SuChin Pak  00:30

No, I know, and it is my time at pleasure. I don’t get up. I barely eat dinner. I’m just, you know, eating nuts and berries at two in the morning watching terrible TV shows. It’s my time, it’s my time to just rat girl summer, it and so.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  00:50

II was just gonna call you a rodent.

 

SuChin Pak  00:52

Yeah, I know, I don’t want to let that go. Well, there’s this new term going around, brat girl.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  00:57

Charli XCX, I was listening to her in my shower.

 

SuChin Pak  01:03

So brat girl, I think I know what that means is that someone who’s just like whatever fuck it like that attitude, wow.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  01:11

That was delicious to watch I mean, let’s cut that up and post that on social, SuChin Pak showing us what a brat is. You and your bones know what brat is, Brat girl is. You know what it is. And you are one, yeah, 100% are one.

 

SuChin Pak  01:28

I mean, you’re, I’m definitely, am I, I’m definitely a rat, for sure, I’m a rat, and so I was just wondering, am I also a brat?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  01:38

I think you’re also a brat. You know what? I mean, SuChin.

 

SuChin Pak  01:42

You’re more brat […] I’m more rat, and less […] So Brat’s like, just attitude, don’t give a fuck like, is that brat?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  01:56

It’s way of being, it’s a little sass, it’s a little, you know? I mean, you know you don’t have, get into.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  02:03

Yeah, you need to the details. You don’t need to get the weeds […] I just sure.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  02:07

I don’t get into the weeds.

 

SuChin Pak  02:09

No, we don’t get into the weeds in the summer. And I do have to say that, like, since I’ve come back from Korea, and then also my aunties being here, and then also covid. I do, I have to apologize to you the Add To Cart team, the Carters, because I do feel like I’m 20 feet underwater all the time, just sort of groping my way in the darkness still, I haven’t quite come up for air.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  02:42

I was gonna immediately say you have nothing to apologize for, but I wanted to listen to it, because, you know, I will accept apologies, whether they are necessary or not. And so I definitely wanted to just hear what they were, but Su, we have so many internal meetings more so than anyone it would wants, I think, but we do, we’re thorough here at Add To Cart, and we called out months ago that we didn’t call it Brat summer, but we said that we wanted to ease up on the clutch during summer, and that’s what we’ve done. That is what we’ve done. I doesn’t feel like it, to be honest.

 

SuChin Pak  03:23

Really? I know a lot of people, when they have kids certain age, during the summer, they do just like a big trip. You know? They like do one big trip everybody’s looking forward to it. You rally around it. It becomes, it’s a fun thing, because you get to plan it all year with them and, you know, and then when that thing is over, when you get off of that big cruise ship, you guys have been paddling, it is a little bit like finding your sea legs. You know what? I mean, it’s like, such a big part of my brain was just getting us through that safely, and you know, with minimal damage, that now I’m just, you know, it really is, it’s slime.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  04:09

Well, you climbed up the mountain.

 

SuChin Pak  04:12

Yeah, this is a Jew trip.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  04:13

You climbed at the mountain. You summited right? And then you’ve just been sliding down on your ass ever since, and we haven’t hit the ground yet.

 

SuChin Pak  04:22

Preciousrecious facts.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  04:25

With your jagged ass.

 

SuChin Pak  04:27

Cutting through the rocks.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  04:29

Cutting through the rock, creating a road of.

 

SuChin Pak  04:33

A gullive.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  04:34

Dead ass, with your jagged ass.

 

SuChin Pak  04:41

Let’s get into our carts, I mean.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  04:43

By the way, I just made my cart up as we were SuChin, you asked a question. You answered your own question. This is Brat girl summer.

 

SuChin Pak  04:54

All right, we’ll see how this goes.

 

SuChin Pak  04:59

Let’s get into your cart that you actually prepared and thoughtfully put together. And then we can get into my cart, which I put together three minutes ago.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  05:08

SuChin Pak, this is a very Emmy centric cart, also with my pick for a great sort of like, hey, kids birthdays, a lot. We went to a lot of two year old, three year old birthdays recently, new baby coming through. I’ve got a brand and an item, items that I think people will like, and then I’m gonna get into something that I think you’re going to laugh me off the pod. I’m bracing myself for that, because I’ve just made fun of you for solid five and now I know it’s coming to me, and I’m now sort of prolonging it, and just kind of.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  05:09

Let me put on my gloss. Let me get real moisture.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  05:26

I think she get moist. I’m gonna say, I’m gonna save that, that one last. Let me just get into Emmy as a has an artistic you know, Scott’s like, what is she gonna be a phenomen? And for me, I don’t care. I’m not looking for my child to be any sort of prodigy, I’m not interested.

 

SuChin Pak  06:11

But, oh, he’s like, looking for the 100 hours now.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  06:14

He’s like, yeah, he’s like, oh, she likes to drum.

 

SuChin Pak  06:17

Is that musical?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  06:18

Ah, she likes to do that. You know what? I mean, she’s interested. She’s leading us all in a sing along. Is she a performer? She, you know, it’s stuff like this me, I just want her to have a childhood, and we all know why. Go check out origin story. But anyways, she loves to color. She loves to paint, finger paint. She likes to use brushes, but we all know that could get super messy even, of course, I’ve got all the gear. New to me are these ooli chunkies, quick drying, temp. I didn’t want to say it. I want to say tempura. That’s food, tempura paint sticks for kids. Is this something that has been in your life, SuChin Pak? Do you know about these? Okay, see this?

 

SuChin Pak  07:03

I mean, ULI, yeah, but ULI, this brand, all of their stuff is really, all of their stuff is great, super satisfying, by the way, fun for everyone. It’s hard to describe, they’re like pig, really. So, yeah, it’s almost like an oil based crayon. Yeah, and they glide. They’re so satisfying.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  07:28

We just broke this open. Just this past weekend. We’re doing family paintings, basically, she has an easel, and we’re all just doing stuff, and then we’re ripping it and putting it up on the wall, like it’s really cute. She loves these, and now that I know from you that ULI is the brand, I’ll be deep diving in that this is one of those things. If you’ve passed the toddler phase, someone introduced this to you, someone gifted it at some point, and then you just don’t look back. Okay oh, wow. Speaking of gifts, so I had mentioned that we’ve been doing a lot of Kitty birthday parties. Now I’m understanding this will be my life. She’s entering, I don’t know we talked about this. She is doing part time preschool after her birthday in October, probably two half days for some time to kind of get her used to it at naptime at home, but like, where, that’s where we’re at now. Now there’s other kids, she’s got to get a job, my nephew, I was like, you’re 14, you haven’t had a job yet. I was working, you know, for other people than my mom at 12.

 

SuChin Pak  08:36

Wait, he doesn’t have a job and he’s wearing $200 cologne?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  08:40

Let me tell you what he’s up to. Okay, he’s a businessman. He is selling cards. He’s selling basketball and football cards at a high level.

 

SuChin Pak  08:52

Yeah, work smarter, not harder.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  08:55

He has developed a business where he, when he rattles these things off to me, and I’m like, just trying to keep up, like, yeah, I took a PSA nine card and I cleaned it up with wax, with this kit, sent it back to PSA, got it graded as a PSA 10 and then turned around and selled it for a massive profit. And I’m just like, oh, that’s cool. Kai, very cool.

 

SuChin Pak  09:23

Well, I’ll be working for Kai. He’s accepting job applications soon.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  09:27

That’s right, that’s absolutely right. Okay, so I digress, I diverge, I’m neurodivergent so the presents are the folk Manus hand puppets, folk menace hand puppets, we’ve gifted the basset hound, we’ve gifted the snowy owl, the orange tabby kitten. So everybody’s given stuffies left and right. But there’s something really fun about a well made animal puppet. It brings delight to young to old. It’s very interactive, but also, well, you know, however they receive it as none of my business, but I know that I feel good about what I’ve given.

 

SuChin Pak  10:05

Yeah. I mean, the thing about it puppets at this age, at this toddler age, they’re interacting with the world at so many different points. You know, like you said, there’s school now coming up, and birthday parties or socializing, their world is just getting bigger and bigger. I remember when my kids and the family went through like, a hardcore puppet phase, like, the best puppets are always at the zoo gift shop, you know? And this was what reminds me of what they sell at the zoo gift shop. They’re like, realistic looking stuffed animals that are puppets because there’s not a kid in this age range that isn’t gonna love when a puppet gets involved, a puppet gets involved, a going potty, a puppet gets involved. Feeding a puppet gets involved, putting away their toys. A puppet gets you know what I mean? Like, there’s so many ways.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  10:57

It’s so it’s like, to me, almost one of like the definitions of childhood, of wonder, of like this thing can be

 

SuChin Pak  11:05

When your parents did puppet play with you? We want to find that tape. You want to rewind to that moment.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  11:16

No, I when I think of the closest thing is when my dad shoved a deer that was roadkill into his Honda Prelude and then brought it back to the restaurant and then proceeded to butcher it. And I stared into its mouth, a gaped skull like head, and looked at it. I mean, that was probably the closest thing to puppetry in my childhood.

 

SuChin Pak  11:41

So that explains so much, so much of your certain proclivities. It’s just I some things became very crystal clear.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  11:55

Yeah, what also super crystal clear is my favorite one that I brought up to you guys is the Snowy Owl. The Snowy Owl, moves its head almost at a sort of 180.

 

SuChin Pak  12:05

And I can’t wait for you to find a women’s camp that puts you in touch with your Snowy Owl, a grown lady camp connecting with your snowy owl.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  12:15

That’s right. Strip your clothes off.

 

SuChin Pak  12:20

Pull out your puppets and let’s dance.

 

SuChin Pak  12:34

All right, carters, I get it, we are a show about buying things and also a show where we care deeply about the world we live in, and are they sometimes at odds? Yes, they are. But how do we all live in a way that pushes us to do better as individuals, as families, as a society, and as we record this in the dead heat of summer, literally, we are seeing record breaking temperatures everywhere.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  13:03

So we thought it would be a really good time for us Carters to cut through the BS the doom and gloom and find out what we can actually do. Our guest today, who is part of science moms, a nonpartisan group of scientists who are also mothers working to demystify climate change, talk honestly about its effects and protect our kids’ future. She is also a climate scientist and professor at the University of Arizona, and is the chair of the NOAA Science Advisory Board’s climate Working Group. Please welcome Dr Joellen Russell.

 

Joellen Russell  13:42

You are so kind. Oh, my goodness, never had hype like that ever oh, who is she?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  13:49

Mama, you deserve it. like listing all your accolades. Like every room you enter, an air horn should sound.

 

SuChin Pak  13:57

Yes, absolutely. We’ll start it here. So tell us a bit about what a science mom is.

 

Joellen Russell  14:06

So science moms, you can check us out@sciencebombs.com we’re a nonpartisan nonprofit group of climate scientists. That’s our day jobs who are also mothers. And it started way back when Katherine Hayhoe sent me an email and said, Hey, chillin, I want to do more. And I thought we could get other moms who are climate scientists like us to help come together and try and provide basic information, reliable information, on climate change and the impact it’s having on our kids and what we can do about it. So our mission is to engage and empower moms across the country to advocate for climate solutions and a better world for our kids.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  14:50

SuChin, and I are both moms, and I feel like the world would be a different place if we let moms run everything. So what you think the intersection of motherhood and advocacy is and where does this come from?

 

Joellen Russell  15:05

Well, I think it comes from our straight up lived experience, right? That’s the issue is that we’ve got a long time horizon here. I look at my little guys, and my little guys are becoming bigger guys, and I think about I’d like to have grandbabies. I need them to have a world that they believe in, that they think is a great and wonderful and gorgeous place to live in, and that they could have kids and it’d be wonderful. And if I can’t convince them of that, if I can’t help provide that, then I’m not gonna have grandkids. Hashtag, life goals, and so when Katherine asked me about this, I really thought, oh my god. Do I really want to be known as a mom, you know, as a scientist, as a serious scientist, do I want to be known as mom? Heck, yeah, I do. Moms are bad ass. Oops, sorry, I don’t mean.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  15:54

Oh, yeah, oh, I swear more.

 

Joellen Russell  15:56

But they get it done. They get it done. They move the world while creating young people. It is extraordinary. And my favorite thing in the universe is my kids and my family, and my second favorite thing is my awesome job. I am very worried. I do climate modeling for a living, right? Like actually predicting what’s gonna happen next and how we’re gonna have to adapt. So I really know the science, but I also I depend on my mom group, right, all of my moms who you know right now, we’re in the middle here in Arizona, I’ve already started to think about back to school, I know, but our school starts early in August, because how hot it is in May we get out early, and then we start early because we’re so roasty, I depend on all those other moms I’m trying to give back, and so are all the rest of my science mom’s posse. They are amazing human beings, but they’re also deeply learned about how climate is hitting us and what we can do about it, and although I’m never going to be the best room mom with the best snacks and the I’m not I try, but I suck at this. My kids have had to get used to it, and all the moms have covered for me. I love you, thank you. We have things that we know about that are in our wheelhouse, so nerds unite. We decided that the people who are actually making the biggest change in America right now are our fellow moms. They’re also the most competent, amazing, heartfelt and warm human beings, even when we’re cranky, because nobody’s gonna do it for us, right? It’s us or who’s gonna who’s more invested in what happens next? Then a bunch of ladies who are hoping to have gray babies, no joke.

 

SuChin Pak  17:44

The stakes are high. I like it very high. Like the trauma you talked about modeling, and that’s what you do, predicting what is coming down the pipeline. And you guys talk about unnatural disasters, which is like the first time I’ve ever seen this phrase. Everything is said in those two words. And so I want you to kind of break down what an unnatural disaster looks like, and give me an example of some of the things that you’re seeing.

 

Joellen Russell  18:13

We’re living it right now. We’re living an unnatural disaster in Arizona right now, and in fact, across a lot of the country, these heat waves were not this hot. Everybody says, Oh, it always gets hot in the summer. I’m like not like this. And it matters. The difference between 100 degree temperature, which is relatively normal for us in Arizona, and 112 and US breaking records, is the difference between being able to get my kids out until maybe 10 or 11 in the morning to play, and no, we have to get out early between five and 7am because otherwise the temperature is above what is tolerable for our little people. Might send my daughter out to bicycle, and she comes back 20 minutes later, she’s clammy, she’s got a headache, she’s not thirsty, she’s got signs of heat stroke, and it was only 20 minutes, but the difference is 10 degrees of temperature means you the amount of time during the day when you can put those kids out. And believe me, summer in Arizona is cabin fever season, but it’s gotten longer. The number of hot days, the number of days that are extreme weather, this is unnatural. These are not natural normal summers. These are ridiculous climate change influence summers where it’s too hot. We also have way more days where we’ve got welfare smoke. Welfare smoke where I am buying HEPA filters, when I can get them, they do tend to run out on occasion because of the welfare smoke we’re having to clean the air where all our kids sleep because we’re afraid one of them is a little susceptible to asthma, and I don’t want another hospital emergency room visit. This is normal for kids and normal for moms to be looking out for this but not for this long, not for this extreme heat, and it’s putting a damper on all of our favorite campgrounds. Can you sleep if it’s 90 degrees in the tent? I can’t, I just can’t sleep like that. It makes me nuts. It means that, like, the number of days and where we can camp are limited. We have to think about that weather. This is unnatural disasters. And if you want to see our little public service announcement, you can check it out on a naturaldisasters@sciencesponds.com

 

SuChin Pak  20:22

I think it’s really interesting when you talk about these unnatural disasters. You know, the other day, I walked out and, as usual, my car is covered in ash. And, you know, you just, you know, you’re like, I just got my car washed, but I guess I’ll just do an out. And you almost, it’s not a desensitization yet, because it still does kind of freak me out, that shifting baseline is so slippery and tricky, and I think moms especially hold on a bit longer than the rest of the population, because we know that this is, I mean, this is not okay, but how do you deal with that shifting baseline as you have conversations?

 

Joellen Russell  21:06

So my grandparents and my parents took me to Glacier National Park when I was little with my brother and all the rest. It was wonderful, and we took our kids to Glacier National Park, and by the time I have grandkids, it will just be national park there won’t be glaciers there anymore. I boots […] on Panhandle glacier when I was a little kid. But you can’t do that anymore because it’s mostly rocks. We all have these deeply felt sort of, you know, they call us kin keepers, right? That we keep, we keep our kin. We look after our parents, our cousins. We send the Christmas cards we reach out and we try to produce, create the childhoods that maybe we didn’t even have those childhoods, but we want to make sure our kids have them right, and we work at that so hard because we recognize whether we had it or didn’t have it. How powerful, how incredibly important it is for our kids to have those moments where they feel it one with the world. I’ll go to the mat for my kids. I want them to have those moments, those memories that say yes, I fight for this world. I fight for these kids. I fight for my family. I’ll hang on even when it’s tough and I worry that if they can’t find a glacier if the campgrounds are closed because of wildfires, if I worry that I don’t want our babies to despair, I don’t want them to give up or feel like it’s too dangerous a world to bring their kids into. So you know me, like you, like all of our science moms, there’s no end to what we’ll do to save their childhoods. I cannot stand the idea of thinking that I get a grandbaby, say, and she tugs on my sleeve on a bad day with the heat, and she says, Grandma, why didn’t you do something when it would have made a difference? I can’t bear being that mom who missed it.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  23:06

In the category of making a difference. This podcast is called Add to Cart. We more than often talk about the things we’re adding to cart. What advice do you have to the average consumer when it comes to climate change and the unnatural disasters they cause.

 

Joellen Russell  23:23

We’ve got three, our favorite three things in science bombs are swap, share and speak out. Swap, whenever you can swap away from carbon polluting stuff to non carbon polluting stuff, your electrical company will let you pick an option that is no carbon producing. They will most. Most places now have a non non carbon option. In Arizona, it’s not just wind and solar. We have a nuclear power plant. We have geothermal, we have hydropower. There are lots of ways to make electricity that do not involve carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, yay, so swap away from polluting to non polluting. I also think that, frankly, swapping to things that don’t increase your carbon footprint, you know, use the real, real if you have to have that fancy bag, buy your bag at the vintage thrift online. You know, just don’t buy new if you can, it’s great. You know, just extend the life before it hits the landfill. You’ll save a book and the planet at the same time. We also are asking everybody to share, when you do something awesome, you figure out how to make your compost heap work. You figure out how to cut your emissions with new windows or with a change in your water heater to a more efficient one. When when you’re changing them out, et cetera, share, blow up your Facebook feed, tell everybody on your group chat, make sure that we’re talking about making that change, because, in fact, that’s how we make a movement. This is how we change the world. And if you think we’re not already changing the world, did you know that the United States has cut almost 22% off their peak emissions while growing our economy and our population?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  25:01

No, I didn’t know that.

 

Joellen Russell  25:02

Our peak emissions in the United States were in 2007 and last year, in 2023 we cut 3% off our total emissions in one year, just like that. So at one point we were 22% of global emissions. Now we’re under 13% and by 2032 we are going to be 6% of global emissions while still being 22% of the global economy. This is doable people, everyone can do this. So swap, share and then speak up.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  25:33

I think what I’m really responding to is this message of like, hope. Now it’s it’s action filled. But I am really responding to this message of like, we can do this. It’s possible, it’s not too late.

 

Joellen Russell  25:49

Not even close. We’re right on this. I’m so thrilled. You know, the US is actually dropping emissions faster than any nation on earth, and nobody even knows about it. I mean, we’re not organized. This isn’t a national thing. It’s not like they passed some law or some carbon tax. It’s just individuals and families and companies sitting at their kitchen table saying, what can we do to help? What can we do? I love the Mr. Rogers thing that says, you know, you ever see a disaster, don’t look at the disaster. Look for all the helpers. They’ll be there. And I keep wanting to tell my kids, yes, look at all the helpers. It’s you and you and me and all of us together. And we are changing the world. We’re doing it. We can do it.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  26:34

Pop Joel, thank you so much. We are so proud to have science moms as a partner of this show, join the millions@sciencemoms.com raising their voice to prevent more unnatural disasters and learn how you can protect your kids’ future. You can join them @sciencemoms.com thank you so much for joining.

 

Joellen Russell  26:56

Thank you so glad to be here.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  27:08

All right, I’ve been putting off for as long as I can hear him SuChin, her being incredulous when I tell you that I’ve purchased the fly away kids bed to use on flights with Emmy.

 

SuChin Pak  27:26

Of course, I know this, of course, I know it.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  27:28

You already know it.

 

SuChin Pak  27:30

I just cannot believe the fucking hypocrisy. I can’t believe that you and Dylan told me to get a plant for my airline seat, because I was moving in with the amount of inflatable furniture that I was bringing onto this flight to Korea. And you, you come here with a fly away toddler inflatable bed?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  27:57

I do okay, go ahead.

 

SuChin Pak  27:59

Because you have wait. You, you’re, wait, you still haven’t taken your trip.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  28:03

We’re recording this before I take the trip. When this comes out, I will have taken the trip. And I, you know, I mean, we’ll do a follow up, because you.

 

SuChin Pak  28:14

I feel like I’ve traumatized you, you’re, I feel like you were not this trepidatious before I got involved, which I apologize.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  28:22

Thank you for that apology. This time, I do think it is warranted.

 

SuChin Pak  28:26

I’m going to be getting a text from Scott soon. I have a feeling that he’s, she’s gonna be like, can you stop scaring my family.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  28:35

I’m gonna do a demo for you. And this is where I actually thought you were gonna you’re gonna hit me pretty hard. You’re gonna nail me on.

 

SuChin Pak  28:42

Okay, wait, just let me tell everybody what.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  28:44

She you tell the people are.

 

SuChin Pak  28:46

This is a fly away kids bed. And basically what it is, it’s an inflatable extender for the seat that for babies and toddlers. It turns an airplane seat, essentially into a little mini bed. But you have to blow air into this thing.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  29:04

I do, and you have to blow it, you know, you can’t do it while you know you’re taxing. I mean, you have to be at altitude. You know, both ways. So when they’re like, Oh, you do, parents, you need more time. It’s not happening, then it’s happening while, you know, we can be about the cabin. So I just everyone keep that in mind too, okay?

 

SuChin Pak  29:24

Oh, my God, she’s putting together an apparatus already. I’m trying to not see what you’re doing through Scott’s eyes.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  29:32

Okay, what I just want you to know that I was going to return it because my sister’s and my sister’s boyfriend are like, no, Kulap, no so then last night, I said, Scott, should we do this? And I did it in front of him, and he said, we should keep it.

 

Joellen Russell  29:46

Oh, okay.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  29:47

He know knowing this, but he knows that it’s gonna be me, of course, doing it.

 

SuChin Pak  29:51

Yeah, no, there’s no doubt about that.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  29:54

I was feeling like, this is too much. I should return it. But he’s the one that was like, go okay.

 

SuChin Pak  30:01

so show me how fast this thing sets up.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  30:04

Now, what I’m about to what the listener is about to hear, is I’m holding it, you know, it’s like, kind of like it’s a little air mattress, okay? And there’s two places where I’m gonna need to pump. They say that it’ll take me 90 seconds. Okay, so now I’m connecting the pump. No one side.

 

SuChin Pak  30:22

You have to connect another thing. Now there’s a giant tube. She’s got a giant tube connected to a pump that’s connected to an inflatable mattress. This is what you’re gonna do on the plane.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  30:34

Manually pump.

 

SuChin Pak  30:37

For 90 seconds.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  30:42

And so what SuChin is hearing is the sound, okay.

 

SuChin Pak  30:47

Let me just describe the motion she is. She has two fists holding a cylindrical object, and she’s pumping her fists now. Do with that what you will in your imagination, there is no way. There’s not even a slight puff to that air mattress. There’s no way that’s 90 seconds. You can’t do that in public. You cannot do what you’re doing in public.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  31:21

Just let me. Give me some chance.

 

SuChin Pak  31:24

No, you guys, I can’t let her do this in public.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  31:28

This is someone’s gonna do it. My husband said I should do with it. I’m tired, okay, it’s pumping Su, it’s pumping up now, it’s pumping up now, Su, I’m getting, oh no, it came out, it’s okay now.

 

SuChin Pak  31:46

90 seconds have passed, 90 seconds have passed. That thing is not even halfway. You are not, you didn’t even there’s another part you have to fill. You have to pump up stop.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  31:55

Okay, I have to stop. All right, here’s the thing. I have a I have a week and a half. I thought I might do drills and condition my body so that I can do this faster, much like it’s military. Now I haven’t shown you the most embarrassing part. Now, this is taking up a scene, right? It looks like I’m penis pumping. It seems that I’m penis pumping, right? And you’re like, Oh, that’s pretty bad. And you’ve got that noise, you’ve got this noise, okay. Now when it’s time to get ready to deflate it, you have to Su, I’m gonna bring it closer to you. So release the air, I have to to finger it. It’s the only way to get the air out. And that, I went online, and I looked, but you have to put one to two fingers. Notice one finger, and that’s what’s gonna release the air.

 

SuChin Pak  32:50

SSo you have to finger that mattress to release the air.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  32:53

Twice in both holes, twice in both.

 

SuChin Pak  32:55

Why this isn’t gonna work?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  32:58

Okay, I’m hearing you continue.

 

SuChin Pak  33:00

I mean, it will work. Eventually you’ll inflate that thing, I guess my question, is to what end like, because you want her to be able to sleep. How long is this flight?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  33:14

We’ve got a four hour and a five hour, and we have nap times in both four hours for Minnesota, five, a little over five, someone would go to Hawaii in September. I’m treating Minnesota as the dry run.

 

SuChin Pak  33:27

The thing is, is every parent that has flown with young children knows this fear that Kulap is operating from, and Ku you have worked so hard, you have seen so many healers to operate your life from a place of not fear, the opposite of fear. So it’s very and I don’t want you to take this the wrong way, refreshing to see me a mess, to see you.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  33:54

To see me, to not have it together.

 

SuChin Pak  33:57

From despair, fear and sheer terror, which is my baseline.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  34:04

I know how not to take that offensively.

 

SuChin Pak  34:07

That’s my baseline mode. So what I’m seeing is, is just the manifestation of what goes on in my brain anytime I do anything. So it’s hilarious, um, you got to do it because you have to see.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  34:20

Okay, so my sister, Anita, is flying with me, and I will 100% have her video it.

 

SuChin Pak  34:28

No,  I want that, but I also want a cutaway shot of everybody else around you watching a grown ass woman, penis pumping for way more than 90 seconds.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  34:40

And in such a fashion, because she wants it done, like not it’d be better wedding her titties off, sweating because I want it to be over.

 

SuChin Pak  34:50

And then fingering it to deflation.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  34:53

Trust, when we first did it, I was like, I don’t, why isn’t the air coming out? Why isn’t the air coming out? And then my sister’s boyfriend had to look it up, and he’s like, yeah, you have to finger it.

 

SuChin Pak  35:04

The problem is, is that if it does work, then you’re doing this on every flight with her, you know. So in some ways you don’t want it to work, because you just never want to put yourself in that kind of compromising, humiliating position again. But then if it does work, you’ll be happy ending flights.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  35:22

In terms of putting myself into humiliating positions, I’ve done years of improv. There are certain roles I’ve accepted in my younger years that, you know, I mean, she’s gonna eventually see when she Googles me, so maybe she’s up to par with who I am.

 

SuChin Pak  35:45

I mean, this is a mother’s love. It’s deranged, it’s sweaty, it’s wholly unnecessary.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  35:52

Yeah, holy my sister, Kai is 14 now, but anita’s face, anita’s face on the Look at her. She’s looking at like, and she’s gonna see it. This is, like, this is my version of what your brother went through, when you guys went to South Korea, like, she’s the amount of gear, the amount of gear I will be bringing and carrying on my back and on her back and like, is, it’s panic traveling.

 

SuChin Pak  36:26

AAnd I get it like, I, there’s nothing I can say to what you’re doing. You know? I don’t think that you can be humiliated on a flight with kids. I don’t think that is actually possible. Like, doesn’t like, I said many times on this podcast, doesn’t even enter my mind. Now, when I’m traveling by myself, I would be horrified at the woman, you know, sweating over a penis pump. But with kids, it’s like you’re wearing an invisible cloak. So you gotta try it.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  37:02

I gotta try it. Well, Su, that’s my cart. Let’s get into yours.

 

SuChin Pak  37:06

I want to first get into the cart, have you heard of this? I guess you I would call it an online sample sales site called offe market, Offe Mart, O, F, F, E, market. I’ll be very excited if the answer is no.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  37:20

I don’t know it.

 

SuChin Pak  37:21

Okay, so I don’t know TIFF. Oh, okay. I was gonna say tiff usually knows about things, and she’s heard of it, by the way, I was looking into the site, and they have a store in Los Angeles, so maybe you can visit it. But basically, it’s a sample sale site, and they have every week, or every few weeks, or, I don’t know when they do the drops, they’ll have a brand. And, you know, it’ll be, it’ll be just stuff for really cheap so, and it can be anything from, I’ve bought bagu bags from here for like, 12 bucks, to this, this week is Gani to, you know, just like little brands that I’ve never heard of, it’s really well edited. The prices are fantastic.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  38:07

Oh my god.

 

SuChin Pak  38:08

Like they’re usually 80% off, and then they usually have sales on top of that as the sample sale goes on. So if you ever been to a sample sale, you know what this feeling is like, right? It’s gonna be a lot of stuff that you probably don’t need, and then there’s gonna be gems in there that are so inexpensive that I’m like, do I buy 10 of these for the holidays?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  38:33

I was just gonna bring up Christmas, but I was holding my tongue for you. You broke the seal.

 

SuChin Pak  38:39

I did break the seal. And so, I just wanted to offer this out as a place, as we’re gearing towards that time. Let’s not bring it up again. It’s just on the list of places that one can shop from that isn’t Amazon, you know, that isn’t like, you know, a big box store, but you could get something kind of unique at a, very good price.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  39:08

Okay, thank you for not gatekeeping. This is generous.

 

SuChin Pak  39:11

Yeah, so that’s, that was one of the things I’ve been obsessed with lately. Click on this link. Do you know Damon Dominique?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  39:19

I do not.

 

SuChin Pak  39:20

Okay, so Damon Dominique is just been doing travel vlogging. Before travel vlogging was a thing, he’s very young. His whole brand is he’s a global Nomad, like this man, you know, he lives everywhere and nowhere all at once. Loves to learn languages. I find him extremely entertaining. I watch all of his YouTube videos. Have watched his YouTube videos since way back when, and there is something about the world that he creates for young people that I wish that I had when I was in my 20s. I wish that I had a friend Like Damon, who saw the world the way that he sees it, who sees the world as one big playground, as an adventure just waiting to happen. Nothing seems very daunting. Everything is doable. Things don’t have to happen the way that everybody else is doing it. You know you don’t have to go, go get a 4.0 and and in high school and then go to a four year college and then get a degree and then get an internship and then work. Do you know what I mean? Like that ladder that I climbed, that I was fed? Now, if you’re a young person, you’re like, this is the oldest news and the dumbest news I’ve ever heard, like, this is the new world. But for my generation, our generation, like you, just being like, I don’t know if I’m gonna live in this country. I don’t know if I’m gonna go to school in America like that. That’s revolutionary. Like, I just didn’t grow up with people like that. Did you like that mindset?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  40:58

No, no not at all, yeah, talk about her parents again. They came out here so we would stay put.

 

SuChin Pak  41:07

They were right. The world is a scary place. Yeah, you shouldn’t be out there. Stay here where it’s safe, right? So this is a different worldview.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  41:17

And I kind of, I almost want to say that like I think people now, kids now, 18 year olds now, there are more models, but I still think you are outside of the regular pack if you do this lifestyle, even today.

 

SuChin Pak  41:34

In America.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  41:36

In America, yes, I do. I think so. I think it’s 100% certainly like the pandemic and being able to work from home. And, you know, you hear about small towns in Italy who will pay you to work there. I mean, yeah.

 

SuChin Pak  41:48

That algorithm so deep on my feed, so many I bought a I bought a Spanish castle for $1 I am at heart. If you strip away the trauma, you strip away the immigrant experience, you strip away the poverty, you strip away the racism, the sexism, you strip away patriarchy. What’s left is a global nomad. Duh, hello, I said it from the beginning. As a glove of numab.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  42:21

Do you have a body at this point, or is this just a spirit?

 

SuChin Pak  42:25

No, it’s a spirit, yeah, it’s a body, it’s a sprinkle covered unicorn is my body.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  42:32

Okay, because I thought you made me were just like a light orb or something, yeah, all that.

 

SuChin Pak  42:35

No, like, most, like, there may be some people, when stripped of all of that, they are light, they are love, they are Goddess. I am just like living my best life in Paris like that. At the core is just and it’s my honest truth. This is who I am. At the core, stripped of all my fears, is just., it’s just a hippie gal with her little boobies out in sunflower fields, you know, and traveling the world, that’s where I’m the happiest. You know, everyone talks about their Roman Empire. That’s my Roman Empire. You know how, like when you have kids, you can’t help it. There are things that you’re like, Oh, I wonder if they’ll be this, I wonder they’d be great if they were. For me, my dream for my children is to just live everywhere. You know, like, never, yeah, don’t I don’t want an address. I want them to just be part of the world, live everywhere. So Damon Dominique is this sort of personified for me, is this fantasy version of like, you know, the sliding door when I was in my 20s. So anyway, one of the things that he started doing just recently was doing a newsletter. And so, of course, I signed up, and the newsletter is what you would think, packing tips, like lists of Places in Cities that he’s visited all the regular travel, you know, newsletter stuff. But then he totally switched gears, because it just felt like the more authentic and fun thing to do. And so he basically has this newsletter now where people write in from all over the world, and it can be anything from job postings to sublets. So let me give you for an example, Sicily subletting my top floor apartment in Palermo Sicily until the end of September, located in a quiet street. It has a roof terrace. Here’s my email. Therapists specialize for expats in Sicily, voyagers and international students fees based on your income, one bedroom apartment in Bastille Paris, on and on. So it’s almost like this old school Craigslist type of thing, where you feel like again, this world of like traveling. And this world of living outside of your comfort zone and where you thought your life was going to be is so accessible and easy. And look, you know, this person is looking for a Danish, person living in Paris to meet up from time to time to help practice his Danish.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  42:36

Yeah.

 

SuChin Pak  42:50

It’s this really kind of interesting newsletter, travel, global newsletter that’s been fun to peek into, that could be useful if you were looking for any of these things. But I don’t know. I just there’s something about it. I read through all of the posts, I look at all the pictures, and it’s, it does give me that rush of being a global citizen, so to speak, in a little way. So I just wanted to share that with you, because I’ve just, I’ve just been so delighted.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  45:53

You know, in your retirement, SuChin, we rarely get to hear an auntie susu hopes and dreams. We hang out a little bit on on teeth and jerky feet, but very rarely do we kind of go there you know, we rarely blue sky things, and what an absolute treat to get that today. And who knew? I think maybe you not planning, you not having any time and you just like going with your gut about things that give you pleasure. Maybe this is the path for a SuChin Pak.

 

SuChin Pak  46:29

Should I rent a room for six months in Rotterdam to live in a creative, multicultural environment where I can bike around the best gems of the city together? Okay? Analia, maybe I will. Can you imagine how disappointed they are when a 50 year old jerky feet Asian Auntie shows up with her portable sauna?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  46:58

Where are the poise pads? Children with my with my toilet, my bean pillow, children.

 

SuChin Pak  47:11

With toner pads on my face like that is not I get that. This list is not for me. I’ve aged out of this list, I get it.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  47:19

You know, it’s like watching the summer I turn Getty, it’s like. This is my summer I turn pretty good, it totally is.

 

SuChin Pak  47:33

This is the summer I turn pretty I mean, you guys, for anyone still listening to this episode. I mean, this is such a deep cut do you know what I mean? like what we are referencing to equate this millennial newsletter to the Summer I turned pretty I mean, nothing has been so crystal clear in so long.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  47:58

Millennial to Gen Z, back to Gen X, to us Gen X. And, you know, I’m an elder millennial, so I can read a little a little bit more than such an um.

 

SuChin Pak  48:10

That’s the brat.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  48:11

That’s the brat, oh SuChin that’s all for today’s ep. Even in this summer, we are still ourselves in that we are so loose, we’re loose, we’re deranged, we’re unhinged, and Carters our deepest hopes is that you too can blue sky it to your heart’s content someday, but in the meanwhile, you can find all the things we talked about on our Instagram @addtocartpod.

 

SuChin Pak  48:38

And while you’re there, okay, we have put together a survey because we want to know what you guys want. You know, what are you itching to hear us talk about? What products, what ideas, what books, whatever. What can we guinea pig for you? All you know, let us know you can find a link to the survey in our show notes or on our Instagram @AddtoCartpod,  all right, see you next week, bye.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  49:05

Bye.

 

CREDITS  49:10

There’s more Add To Cart with Lemonada Premium subscribers get exclusive access to bonus content, like where we tell you about the last item we bought or returned, and why subscribe now in Apple podcasts. Add To Cart is a production of Lemonada Media. Our producers are Kegan Zema and Tiffany Bouy. Brian Castillo is our engineer. Theme music is by Wasahhbii and produced by La Made It and Oh So Familiar with additional music by APM music. Executive producers or Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak, Jessica Cordova Kramer, and Stephanie Wittels Wachs. Be sure to check out all the items we mentioned today on our Instagram at @AddToCartPod. Follow Add to Cart wherever you get your podcasts or listen at free on Amazon music with your Prime membership.