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Get in the car, we’re running errands with the Aunties! Come with Ku and Su to the land of impulse buying. First stop is Target with Ku, who hails from the land of the red circle. She loads up the cart with must-haves in the Aukerman-Vilaysack household. Then, Su takes the wheel to CVS. She explains “CVS math” and even her post-shopping routine in the car.

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Transcript

SPEAKERS

Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak

Kulap Vilaysack  00:10

Carters, welcome back. It’s your auntie Kulap Vilaysack.

 

SuChin Pak  00:13

And I’m your other auntie, SuChin Pak.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  00:16

Su, you and I live full lives.

 

SuChin Pak  00:22

I know you paused for me, and I appreciate that.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  00:25

We look we have a lot to occupy our collective time.

 

SuChin Pak  00:29

My life is full. It’s just not full of people, got scared. I didn’t mean to shout, I didn’t shout.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  00:37

Let me adjust my wig. But as a hobby, nothing beats getting into my car, driving to a store and just walking around, you know, just kind of losing myself, perusing the aisles of of what’s out there, what, what is this store’s offerings? And I love to merrily push my cart through Tarjay, maybe with a drink in hand. You know, it’s the land of impulse buying.

 

SuChin Pak  01:03

Listen, call it what you will for yourself, me, self care is too light of a word, this is survival, okay out here, if I do not have my little errand slash, impulse buy runs every single day. And I say that again, every single day I hit one of these stores.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  01:27

Hold on.

 

SuChin Pak  01:27

In the every single day I hit one of these stores.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  01:33

Okay, just you can keep talking, but I have to let that wash over me.

 

SuChin Pak  01:37

Really, I didn’t know that that was going to be.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  01:39

Every single day?

 

SuChin Pak  01:42

I mean, there may be a day like if it’s torrential rain, or if I have back to back meetings, but even then, I am not opposed to a post dinner, kids are in the shower, quick trip to CVS, and like I said, for some it’s survival, I think self care is cute, and I think it’s a nice little hashtag. But for some, it’s a little bit more serious, and that I fall in that category.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  02:14

No.

 

SuChin Pak  02:14

I go to a target or a CVS or a Whole Foods, and I peruse the aisles, it could be anywhere from a quick 10 minute to an hour and a half. And then I like to make sure I have time to sit in the car to what all my things.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  02:31

To look at?

 

SuChin Pak  02:32

No to open every single thing and put it on my face and my body and my mouth. I do that and and if you, if you maybe are in Santa Barbara at some point, and you just wanted to go to Whole Foods and pick up a bottle of sparkling water, and you see me in the parking lot applying lip balm and eating potato chips, you walk on by. Don’t look me in the eye. You just walk on by. You go on in, and you know that I’m taking care of myself.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  03:03

Are you doing it in that order? Really, you apply the lip balm and then you have some salty chips.

 

SuChin Pak  03:10

I mean, why not? There’s no rhyme or reason. It’s just what I’m most excited to put on my body and in my mouth in that order.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  03:16

Wow, yeah, I knew we were doing this episode, and I didn’t know we were gonna enter another level of intimacy. So Carter’s, these are our rituals. These are our grounding practices apparently, basically, it’s, well, it’s your aunties taking you on their errands, let’s go.

 

SuChin Pak  03:40

Errand time,  I love errand time.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  03:45

Look, we’ll recall. Everyone will recall when we had a list celebrity, Jada Pinkett Smith on and.

 

SuChin Pak  03:53

Such a year, oh, we’re going here.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  03:56

CVS was brought up in SuChin Pak.

 

SuChin Pak  04:00

Oh,So embarrassing.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  04:01

She was ignited in such a way, the whiplash between the top of our show, where we were talking very intensely about worthy, the book to, three aunties just talking about.

 

SuChin Pak  04:18

Garbage deodorizers.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  04:20

Wow, it was sorry. I was shook in the relisten, I gotta say.

 

SuChin Pak  04:24

And I was a little embarrassed in the in the re-listen and sharing my coupon hacks and she that’s where I lost, really, Jada Pinkett Smith, she left, but she hung in there for it made me have a have a different type of appreciation for that woman.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  04:42

Same, so Su’s going to be talking about her, dear CVS. I’m going to be talking about Target. Target is from the Twin Cities I grew up going to target riding my bike, and it’s just it’s a comfort place. My little sister works at Target corporate. Maybe she doesn’t want. Me to keep bringing that up. We are a Target family, you know, like, that’s where I come from. That’s my lineage, if you will. But Target in Los Angeles, it’s different. It’s different. You don’t, we don’t have Target great lands. Are you familiar with the theTarget brand, the target this, those are larger when you, when you’re in a target great land. You have a full size grocery store plus a target.

 

SuChin Pak  05:23

Do they have those in California?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  05:27

No,targets here get smaller.

 

SuChin Pak  05:30

No, they don’t even have a full target in Santa Barbara, the only they we have one of those, like little city targets.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  05:36

Yeah, that’s different. It’s not the same, yeah.

 

SuChin Pak  05:38

No, it’s not only not the same. It’s worse because you see the Red Bull’s eye and you’re like, but there’s nothing in there.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  05:45

That’s right.

 

SuChin Pak  05:46

There’s absolutely zero, nothing in there that target would be more exciting if all you went in were computer screens that just helped you shop online in person, and they had no merchandise. That actually would be a more satisfying experience. And that’s why target, I love Target. It wasn’t my list, because I don’t get to do this.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  06:07

Because that’s that Target is trying to be a CVS without your bucks, your CVs. What are they called, Su sorry.

 

SuChin Pak  06:16

They’re called extra bucks.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  06:17

Thank you.

 

SuChin Pak  06:17

Called extra bucks, and I brought them to the show. You’re right, thank you for that. All right, but we’ll talk about that in a second.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  06:22

About that,yeah so when the queen of my life, Emerald Birdie, Ackerman, I just didn’t do as much target, but now with her, oh, we’re full in, we’re full on,

 

SuChin Pak  06:35

Yeah, once you have a baby, just set up shop there.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  06:39

Set up shop there. Okay, to be honest, before Emerald Birdie, when I really started to, as Scott put it, get into Christmas at a level, that was, is what you all know, what I’ve spoke about, a nauseum here, that’s when I started getting back into Target. Now with the Babu.

 

SuChin Pak  06:56

Should we do Christmas count for this show?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  06:59

I forget it.

 

SuChin Pak  07:10

Should we do Christmas? Count for this show. Forget I said it and I take it back.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  07:22

You know, I mean, you’re continue. Everyone’s late, if they’re not already, like thinking about it.

 

SuChin Pak  07:28

It’s no, get back to your target cart. No, we’re not doing this.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  07:33

Okay, here we go. Tiffany, our producer, wrote in the chat that her cortisol level just jumped in. So let’s not do that. Let’s everybody calm down.

 

SuChin Pak  07:42

Everyone calm down, relax. Come on back to target.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  07:46

We’re talking about target, sorry, yeah.

 

SuChin Pak  07:48

Everyone was getting cozy, no, and then you just come with a dirty needle, yeah.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  07:56

1000 paper cuts. Here we go, Millie Moon diapers. These are the diapers that are on my little Emmy. I tried the gosh, I can’t even pull them right now. They’re so far in my rear view mirror, there was like the fancied coterie. I tried the coterie. I tried, you know, but Millie Moon has just been perfect. So I gotta go. When those Millie Moons are done, I’m at my target, and you, if I need diapers, one item, I’m gonna fill the rest of the cart like, it’s not that’s, that’s the thing about target. You go in needing to spend $10 and you walk away with this around on 200 – 150. Like, very easily. So Millie Moon diapers, such and POC are just they’re luxury disposable diapers. So Millie Moon diaper, luxury diapers, 108 diapers are $39.99 I don’t know how much other diapers cost. I only buy Millie moon, okay, no clue. No clue how that compares to other diapers. I’m not a clue, except for the Pampers overnights. These are the Swaddlers. My girlfriend said, these are the ones that go, I don’t need to do more research. And the only research I did do is just lived in, and we’ve had maybe one leak, and that’s because my husband didn’t they’re like, the bottom of it. He It was beyond the cheek a little bit. It was little, he thonged it a little bit on one side. That’s not pampers fault. That’s user error.

 

SuChin Pak  09:29

It’s got to be centered.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  09:30

Got to be centered.

 

SuChin Pak  09:31

So to catch all the urine.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  09:33

Urine, what not, and for 88, 44.99 and always, because Target knows what they’re up against with your Amazons, with your Walmart generally, there’s always some sort of deal, like, if you you spend $100 or more on baby care, you get a $20 gift card.

 

SuChin Pak  09:51

Get me how they get you.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  09:53

Get me, and am I in the target circle? Of course, so I get $5.

 

SuChin Pak  09:56

If you’re not a target circle. Get off this podcast.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  10:02

TThat circle, yeah, because when I’m going to target, let me see what’s in the bullseye section, what do we got that’s $1 $5 what’s in your 99 cents section, what’s up there? There’s sometimes some good stuff. Sometimes it’s crap. Look, everything’s garbage, but.

 

SuChin Pak  10:18

There’s some it’s a tongue scraper. You go there, you scrape your tongue before you are dictates the bounty that target is giving you, but you need to get that filth off of your tongue. That’s why they have it right at the beginning. You step in, you scrape it. Sometimes you find a juicy morsel, and then you move on.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  10:38

So everything in my cart that I’m describing are the things that I for sure am going to get. Like, these are, I’m not leaving target without these items generally, unless we already have enough diapers, because I’m also I am checking things out, like, what? What is there? What’s up? Because sometimes target will surprise you with their collabs. They’ll have great collabs with certain designers, some great things that remain in my closet because they look good. No one has any idea, because it was just one of those great collabs that they’ve done with Kiki Vargas. I’ve got two items there. People are like.

 

SuChin Pak  11:15

What’s that? What’s that from?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  11:17

I always want to look at ladies clothes, and then I’m looking at Emmy clothes, and they’ve got great $5 concert tees. That’s where I, you know, I’ve gotten a notorious big T shirt there. I always check to see what’s what’s up with cat and Jack what sort of fashions are we playing with what’s a little Oshkosh?

 

SuChin Pak  11:35

Are these cat and jackers? God, I love these cat and jackers, by the way, did you know that with cat and Jack items, that you can return them in any condition within the year?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  11:49

This is a SuChin special. And how many times have you done it?

 

SuChin Pak  11:52

How many times I mean, I’ve done that, I’m going, I’m about to do that today. That’s what that city target is good for. My returns from online, my daughter buys the same I buy her the same cat and Jack stretch jeans, and they get a hole in them before the year is out, getting my ass back there show them on my app when I bought it. Sometimes, I do have to say, at least at the city target in Santa, Barbara, Lada, you know, UCSB kids that give me a little bit of attitude. And I say, check that policy. Put on your, you know, cat eye, you know, sunglasses, whatever you Gen Z-ers are doing. Check that policy, 365.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  12:36

I’m gonna have to go on to Sandra lansch Instagram right now because I can eat gouache because my chin hit the ground with that reveal SuChin that you’re throwing down.

 

SuChin Pak  12:50

Oh yeah, I don’t think I’ve bought a new pair of jeans, probably in at least two years. I just keep returning it every time it gets a hole. And get a new pair of jeans.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  13:01

I and then you size up. You size up as she grows.

 

SuChin Pak  13:04

You can, because they give it to you in credit form. So listen, it’s not my policy, not using it.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  13:11

I know.

 

SuChin Pak  13:11

There’s a hole in it before a year if you’re gonna guarantee me something, you know, Darn Tough. Another example, you’re gonna guarantee me something, I’m gonna guarantee that’s right, and me and maybe three others, so you’re not losing any money.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  13:27

No, words matter, okay?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  13:41

SuChin Pak, I put down coffee meat, zero sugar, hazelnut creamer. Now it’s not something that like I need to have, but Scott David Ackerman does.

 

SuChin Pak  13:52

Oh, I love, a little weird. Must have been mean, so this must have very specific thing.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  14:00

Coffee, meat, zero sugar, hazelnut creamer. You can’t get that at lazy acres. You can’t get that at Sprouts, which is my normal places. Okay, so then I gotta get a target. I gotta get it at gelsons. Okay, gelsons, it’s more expensive. Then I gotta get at Target. Have to have it, make sure it’s zero sugar.

 

SuChin Pak  14:22

Yeah, no. I mean, he doesn’t ask for much. He doesn’t.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  14:26

That’s what he needs. Yes, of course. Will I put it in my coffee on occasion? Yes, but I don’t need it, he needs it. He needs such now from there, because the price difference is vast from gilson’s Lazy acres, or sprouts. Maybe sprout is kind of similar organic bananas so random. Emmy used to hate banana. Used to what that was the first food, first solid food I gave her. Hated it, now loves it. Loves bananas this morning, more that she doesn’t say want right now, anything she wants is more, this past weekend, though, we have developed please and thank you, which is really nice. I didn’t know how nice it was. We’ve got the sign, please. Thank you, peace, thank you. Yeah, it’s very so more Nana banana, more, like, loves it.

 

SuChin Pak  15:27

So you’re just filling up that Target cart with organic bananas.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  15:32

I just like, oh, we go to the grocery store a lot. Now, I’m like, oh my gosh, we go a lot, like, we go a lot.

 

SuChin Pak  15:38

Keep this thing alive.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  15:41

Gotta keep things fresh. Now the other thing, this is for mommy. This is for adults. You know, some people don’t have candy dishes, and that’s like, old timey. Not only do I have a candy dish, it’s a wide brim bowl.

 

SuChin Pak  15:56

You’re you have a candy bowl like an old lady, so anyone can come over and just like, get a little sweet treat.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  16:01

Yeah, but then I’ll take a photo of it. It’s not small, it’s large, very it’s a large trough. It’s a candy trough. What I have is a candy trough that people can come in vibe, totally relax, not worry about any predators coming to get you at your candy watering hole.

 

SuChin Pak  16:19

You missed your calling as a bed and breakfast. Oh, interesting. You love to host. You love to make sure your guests have all their desires met, and even desires that hadn’t crossed our minds.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  16:34

This is the thing. It has come up for me in my long life, relatively, um, I’ve just thrown lots of parties people like, you should be a party planner, or you should, you know. But the issue is, I could do Airbnb, but it could only be people that I like.

 

SuChin Pak  16:51

That you like. No, for sure thing, like, you know, I’m sorry I take it back that you are a bed and breakfast owner that is only open to your friends, people that you like, yeah, that, of course.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  17:07

Yeah, I wouldn’t charge you, but it would be I, what I the calling that I miss in the life that I missed was some sort of, like, debutante heiress, you know, like, who lived upstate New York who had just, like, was able to just entertain, you know, like, you know what I mean saying, or like, uh, I am in some ways, a kept woman. I think a lot of people would would attest to that, but I still, I wouldn’t you know.

 

SuChin Pak  17:33

But I was gonna say, but aren’t you living the life of a debut Todd heiress?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  17:38

But to do it at such a level, to be at sort of a Hearst, Hearst Castle. That’s the level that like should you know.

 

SuChin Pak  17:49

That would be chauffeurs and butlers and that sort of thing. But until then, you have a giant candy bowl filled with now, your gira Deli. This is controversial. You’re a Gira Deli, but I am a lintuan.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  18:07

You know, look, I wanted it this to be sort of an evergreen kind of situation. If there’s a holiday candy, it’s going in there. But also, I want you to know that, I’ll do lint, I’ll do Gira Deli, I’ll do, and I’ll mix it in the same bowl. I again, it’s a it’s not a bowl, as much as it is sort of a platter. It’s, you’re like, Oh, I’m in a desert. Is that an oasis? Is that, is that a mirage?

 

SuChin Pak  18:36

Yes, it’s a chocolate hole.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  18:37

It’s a chocolate, it’s a chocolate hole. To fill your hole with chocolate?

 

SuChin Pak  18:42

Well, I suggest I love a holiday chocolate lint puts out. They do the white chocolate for the holiday times, and then they do the strawberries and cream for Valentine’s Day that I hoard these when the holidays come, because, you know, they just do them. And I suggest you get yourself to a target to get some of these for your chocolate hole.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  19:06

And my friend was in a Switzerland, I believe, and went to the lint factory. He said it was a an amazing experience where you could make chocolates and get them warm. He said he felt like a child.

 

SuChin Pak  19:20

I love a silky chocolate just gliding down my tongue. And I love to eat it just at alone, you know, in my desk chair while I’m watching YouTube vlogs of 20 somethings putting on makeup, and then I like to just get that silk in my mouth.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  19:41

It was funny, because I was what you were. It was very sensual. And it was making me think of a bygone time, you know, of a fancy lady, and then you bring up YouTube makeup, people know, like, here we are, present day, SuChin Pak, let’s get out of Target. Let’s get out of, you know, let’s. Move away from this big box store.

 

SuChin Pak  20:02

Come out of Target, because I can’t, you know, I can’t go there with you, that’s right. So come with me, if you will, to CVS. And I want to give a little shout out. First of all, I brought a CVS offering. I’ve brought you my CVS rewards, extra bucks. Now, do you know about extra bucks at CVS?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  20:24

I’ve received them, I’ve looked at them, I’ve thrown them away. I’ve never once, I don’t live that life. If I’m in a CVS, it’s because I was in Riverside waiting for my daughter to arrive two weeks early. If I’m in a CVS, it’s because I’m in between. I have to get medication. And it’s sort of like, I guess I’ll go here. I’m not like, I don’t know.

 

SuChin Pak  20:51

I’m glad you’re bringing this up, because maybe there’s something I need to step back a moment. Okay, now it is important and imperative Ku, for you to come along with me on this journey, if and only if you do the first step. And you haven’t done the first step.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  21:09

What’s that?

 

SuChin Pak  21:10

You have to find your CVs, and what do I mean by that you put in CVS in a Yelp app or whatever Google Maps. And do you take time to visit all of those CVSS within whatever five to 10 mile range? Because not all CVSS are made equal. Are they.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  21:33

No.

 

SuChin Pak  21:34

And you find the one that you walk in, and you’re like, Oh, I know what Auntie Su is now speaking of, because they’re not all made equal. I have my CVS. I have looked and scoured when I got here during lockdown. We had that time. I use that time, and so I go to a very particular CVS to get all the things that I need to get there. I know the layout. I know my people. I know where the Help button is on the aisle that’s locked up. I know the rules, and I go in there with my extra bucks, and I always do self checkout because I’m so embarrassed. Just last night, I went to CVS because I knew we were going to record this episode. And I said, huh, I haven’t been in a while. And I went up in there, and there was the young gentleman that’s always there. There was no line, and I walked up to the self checkout, and he said, Oh, I’m open. And I said, that’s not my problem.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  22:36

That’s nice for you.

 

SuChin Pak  22:37

That’s good for you. You keep doing what you were doing, I am going to use my extra bucks rewards cards without any judgment. So first of all, you need to find your CVS. If you’ve gone into a CVS and you’re like, I don’t know what this woman is talking about, that’s not your CVS, you will find a CVS. And sometimes you may have to journey. I’m going to talk about my recent visit because I’ll show you how this works. So I go into a CVS with always with something, and it can be yesterday, it was because it had been a while, so I just went in with a 10% coupon. And that’s fine, you know, I didn’t have any reward bucks yesterday, and that’s also fine, but I went in there going, Oh, I’m coming home with some major bucks. Okay, so what I like to do is, I like to peruse where I’m going to get my extra bucks, you know? And it just so happened to be when I was in there, and they’re always changing, it’s fun, it’s game time. They know that, for the hardcore CVS is like, we love the strategy, we love the game that they’ve set up for us. And so, for instance, Knicks is a makeup brand that I love often doesn’t have rewards bucks because they know that’s a high covet, high covet. And yesterday they had a they had a reward, reward bucks for NYX. So I bought some NYX products that I love. And I re bought these things. You can click on that. It’s a NYX sweet cheeks. And it’s basically, you know, a soft cheek tint, blush, mousse. I love it. I put it on my lips. I put it on my cheeks. It lasts a long time. I’m not going to name other brands that you can get it so far that I’ve tried, and it looks great going on, but a half an hour later, it’s gone.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  24:35

Why can’t you name it? Why can’t we what name it?

 

SuChin Pak  24:39

Rare beauty, can’t do it. I love Selena just I don’t really enjoy her beauty products. So, it’s for me. It’s a NYX sweet cheeks. It stays on, I love it. It’s very easy to use. And so I re upped on that.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  24:54

10,29.

 

SuChin Pak  24:56

Then I went in and I got some Magnetic Lashes. I’ve talked about magnetic lashes. The ones that CVS that I love are from Kiss, and they had a CVS extra bucks rewards, and so I bought the kiss magnetic eyeliner. They’re so great. I cannot do false eyelashes. I don’t understand. I don’t care how easy you’ve made it. I don’t care that you’ve made it into a mascara. I don’t care that you’ve made it into a strip and you don’t even need the glue. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t work. The only way I’ve ever been able to put false eyelashes on myself has been through magnetic and I happen to like this brand kiss went in there for that.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  25:41

18,49.

 

SuChin Pak  25:42

18,49 by the way, it’s usually locked up, and you don’t have to wait for help, because there’s a button. If you didn’t know that, at CVS, they have a button, and you just push the button and the person comes right on over and will unlock whatever you want. And that’s the CVS promise. Thank you for shopping at CVS. Please remove all bagged items.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  26:13

We want to talk about, an Add To Q and it’s a book you probably heard us talk about last year, the incredible tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow. By Gabriel Zevin, it’s now out in paperback form, easy for packing on your upcoming beach vacations, get ready to dive into a story that’s taken the world by storm.

 

SuChin Pak  26:35

I mean, this is the last book, truly, that I remember everybody was reading. You know, every once in a while, you’re reading a book, and then you’re getting different texts from random groups of friends that aren’t even related, that are like, you have to pick this book up. This was the last book for me that I felt like everybody was reading at the same time.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  26:54

Didn’t think about that. It’s the same for me too. You’re right,

 

SuChin Pak  26:57

Yeah, no, it was just one of those things that I don’t even know. If it was a slow burn, to be honest, it was a slow burn for me. Like I someone recommended it. I picked it up, I wasn’t sure, I read the log line. I was like, Is this my kind of book. And then you’re done. Three Days Gone, black hole.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  27:15

It’s weird because on the outset, I was like, I don’t, okay, yeah, I’ll get to it. And I it came. I cracked it open. I was like, holy cow.

 

SuChin Pak  27:24

It’s this epic story. It spans 30 years of friendship and creative collaboration as video game designers. Okay, that’s what these two people are between two main characters, Sadie Green and Samson Masseur, and it’s so hard to distill what happens to these two as they grow up, you know, and they become complicated adults with very complicated lives. I think in some ways, they are soul mates in the deepest sense. And when you hear video game I think that’s what maybe threw me off a little bit. You know, don’t think of this as like a bunch of bros sitting around with VR headsets, right? Think of when you hear video game think of like more like. It’s a fantasy world that our characters dip in and out of. Like it’s just so hard to describe what video games and friendship and love like, what it means to this world that Gabrielle writes about.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  28:22

This is one of the books where, at the end, you kind of, you feel kind of a loss from finishing it.

 

SuChin Pak  28:27

Yes.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  28:28

Sam and Sadie’s story. It just felt so personal, engrossing, real, and I wanted to read it all over again. It starts when they’re just 11 years old. Sam is half Korean, and he’s in and out of hospitals where he meets Sadie, and their lives are never the same again. Their relationship encompasses all the depths of feeling around love, resentment, friendship, loss and ultimate betrayal. And I think there’s like a conversation Su called them like soul mates that there are, what that can mean. It doesn’t equal the love that we’ve exactly.

 

SuChin Pak  29:06

Yeah, it’s not like a rom com. This is not one of those. I mean, it has elements of it and what does it mean to be soul mates when maybe your story doesn’t have a happy ending?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  29:19

That’s true.

 

SuChin Pak  29:19

You know what I mean, like, or the ending, rather, the ending that you thought or you want, you know, to happen. Like, there’s just so many different aspects to this relationship between these two characters.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  29:31

It’s also about, like, partnership, collaboration and passion. You can have this, like work, passion that is unparalleled, but doesn’t like equal like, sexual passion.

 

SuChin Pak  29:43

There’s so many ways that this book sucks you in, and it doesn’t matter your age, your background, like, none of that matters, because the best kind of books and stories are the kind where the people feel like they’re breathing.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  29:58

Yes.

 

SuChin Pak  29:58

In real time, I’m in your life like I love a great historical fiction book. I love fantasy, I love all that, but I also love it when a book feels like they’re writing about people that really exist in the world right now. And there is like this 90s like nostalgia to it as well, but there’s still this kind of realness and relevancy that feels like it’s happening right now, I don’t know. I just, I just this book is so I’ve bought this book for so many people. I’m so glad it’s out in paperback now, because then it just won’t be as bulky to gift.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  30:37

True.

 

SuChin Pak  30:38

But it’s just a fantasticbook.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  30:40

It’s such a good one. I highly recommend this book obviously we both do. Don’t miss out, grab your paper book copy today and discover why this book has captured the hearts of millions by Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow, wherever you buy books.

 

SuChin Pak  30:57

I shared with you in past newsletter this Wet n Wild cloud pout, it is sold out. I have been back to CVS many times since I first purchased this, and cannot find it. So I don’t know. I’m sure they sell it on Amazon, whatever, but I like to go to a CVS and look for this. So this Wet n Wild cloud pout is like the texture of marshmallow fluff. It’s such a pleasure. All right, so I went in there with that, and I did the math here. Okay, let’s say I spent about 80 bucks on all of these things. I didn’t put everything on this list because I didn’t love everything I bought, and that’s, and I bought, I’ve got $5 $5 $4 $3 and 10%, so now I will go back to CVS and I will get some other items.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  31:55

You can use those bucks however you please.

 

SuChin Pak  31:57

Dollars, it’s literally cash.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  32:00

Plus 10% off.

 

SuChin Pak  32:01

Plus 10%.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  32:03

Wow, so you spent $80 how many bucks?

 

SuChin Pak  32:07

10, 14, 17 plus 10% off, $17 plus 10% off. So now I’ll go into a CVS the next time, and I’ll get a cart full of poise pads. That is why I also self checkout, because it’s every other when I go in with this many extra reward bucks, I make it count and I go in there on my second run with my extra bucks, and I essentially get my poise pads for free, okay.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  32:52

Wow. I mean, wow.

 

SuChin Pak  32:56

Listen to me, it’s poise pads. Is for you. It could be something different. You can go in there for your extra strength, Tylenol, for, I don’t know, baby wipes, whatever you want. That’s your, yeah.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  33:09

It’s your time.

 

SuChin Pak  33:09

You know, that’s your customization.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  33:11

That’s your list. Do it your way.

 

SuChin Pak  33:14

And so that’s how it extra bucks it what I really wanted to explain this whole thing to Jada?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  33:24

No, I’m glad you didn’t.

 

SuChin Pak  33:25

That I’m saying I’m so glad I didn’t. But anyway, that’s my CVS run.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  33:32

Wow, I mean, it’s wow that it’s taken so long for us to get into it. To be frank, wow. I’m blown away. I’m absolutely blown away.

 

SuChin Pak  33:44

Okay, well, I I did it less for you to be blown away. I hope that you are convinced. I hope that I said some things in here that ring true, but hey, listen, you don’t you don’t have to do everything I do, and you can just find your own CVS journey, your own way.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  34:03

That’s beautiful and generous.

 

SuChin Pak  34:07

From the CVS, comeome on with me kids,ids. get in that in the car.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  34:12

GetGet in the car.

 

SuChin Pak  34:13

Now, what I like to do when I come out of the CVS.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  34:17

She’s putting on product right now.

 

SuChin Pak  34:19

But I bought at CVS yesterday. I bought this clean, fresh, yummy gloss Cover Girl also had a rewards bucks. Don’t like it, so don’t bother. So I what I like to do is I like to sit in my first of all, you always have to print out the receipts. Okay, there’s nothing more satisfying than printing out the receipts. I don’t know if you get these reward bucks on your app. That’s not how you know what I mean. I always say print. I like to print. And I like to get the long thing.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  34:45

You’re the one person that likes to get the long.

 

SuChin Pak  34:47

Loves this long receipt, okay? And then I scurry to my car with my goodies, and I look at what I got. I look at it, and I then I rip off the ones I don’t need. I don’t need this 25% off of, you know, heat packs. I don’t need this, you know, $5 off of eye drops, and I just hold on to the rewards box, okay? And then, oh, my God, I’m about I am fucking crazy. Then what I like to do is, I like to look at all the expiration dates and mark it on my phone. Because what is the point in getting this money? If you get there and it’s expired, I got to get my ass there in six days to get my 10% and so you write yourself a little note. Sometimes, I’ll, you know, I had this one system where, basically I had little post its, and so I would put a little date on there and put it on the coupon that I keep in my car. I always keep the coupons in the car, and then the post its would tell me. But then that was kind of getting, you know, all messy and cluttered. So I just have a little, little tab on my notes app that says CVS, and I just put in there, and I put it on my calendar.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  36:09

Nope.

 

SuChin Pak  36:11

Moving on, so once I get the expiration dates into my calendar.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  36:17

Is that your Google Doc? What type of calendar is it?

 

SuChin Pak  36:20

I don’t know, whatever’s on your your phone.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  36:23

Okay, so it is on your phone. So you both put it, put it twice in your phone. You have a list in your notes, and then you put it in your calendar.

 

SuChin Pak  36:31

Yeah, I don’t the calendar a little bit freaks me out, but I like to have things in there when I remember. But my notes app, I’m always on it. And so it’s just on my on this app, because I open, you know, I’m always on there. There’s always lists I’m looking at on there, so I’m like, oh, CVS, right, gotta do that, but let’s move on.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  36:50

Okay, yeah, we should.

 

SuChin Pak  36:52

So then I like to do that. Like to sit there, and I then open every single thing I get, and I put it on my face, all of it, all of every single thing, every single thing. Put every single thing on. I put all the gloss, I put the lipstick, I put the foundation, I put the magnetic lashes on, I try everything in the car, and I love it. And that’s my CVS run.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  37:14

I think well.

 

SuChin Pak  37:15

You’ve lost steam.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  37:16

I mean, I have follow up questions, like, when you buy multiple lip stuff, then are you just doing your bottom lip one color, and then your top lip or.

 

SuChin Pak  37:26

What am, I’m not reviewing it on my Tiktok, what do I fucking care if the mat goes on, the gloss goes on the I don’t care just putting it on for the sheer fact of like, getting that little plastic off of the off of the little lip gloss applicator, and then popping it out and just slathering it on, on top of underneath one eye, magnetic lashes, one eye knot. Doesn’t matter. I’m not going anywhere. I’m not reporting on this.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  37:56

And then just quickly, because I picture this to only occur in the dead of night, this is also happening because the time where people could look in your car and see that we died.

 

SuChin Pak  38:06

I fucking dare you.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  38:08

And then, if you’ve bought a food item, do you then when do you eat it? Is it so you’ve done your full face of clown makeup, and then you have a chip? Or do you eat the chip first, a fuel that frenzy.

 

SuChin Pak  38:24

It makes sense to be eating it, but, I mean, I’ve done it both ways. It’s just like, what am I most excited about? Like, as soon as I get in, what this is, is like a moment for me to just indulge in the rabid werewolf that I keep checked all day, and what that werewolf wants that werewolf shall have. So if I get my lint chocolate, which I do at CVS, there’s often a buy one, get one half off, and I want to put that silky smooth chocolate on my tongue before I put off my magnetic eyelashes. Then fine, so be it, and sometimes I can’t wait to get that gloss on my lips. And so be it fine.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  39:16

No.

 

SuChin Pak  39:17

Whatever the hairy beast wants.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  39:20

Here’s what I like about this, is that let’s be in 2024 let’s not be cute anymore. We were being cute last year. We’re talking about butter, wolverines and all that stuff. Let’s just fucking be honest. 2024 is about aunties allowing their werewolves out. We’re werewolves. That’s what it is, hairy beavers.

 

SuChin Pak  39:43

I don’t even think I’ve moved on from werewolf, because werewolf has, like, a like, it could also be sexy and glittery, you know, and like a given the right, you know context.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  39:55

Yeah, no, we’re not even werewolves of nightmares. We’re not talking about, Taylor Lautner as a werewolf, we’re talking.

 

SuChin Pak  40:06

I was thinking no, I’m talking about that. Yeah, okay, that beast in the night that you do not want to see in an alley. But again, go ahead, look me in the eye as you pass me in broad daylight. I dare you. It will be a nightmare that haunts you, and that’s your fault, mind your own business.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  40:29

Wow, errands, huh? This is, Auntie Aaron’s. This is Add to Cart, Auntie Aarons, this is the, this is a reoccurring episode. Auntie Aaron’s.

 

SuChin Pak  40:43

Oh, it’s not reoccurring. We can’t do this again. Nothing more to say. I think I’ve left everything on the table there guys.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  40:52

Yeah, no, this werewolf has picked every bone. Is eating the bones. Thanks for coming on the shopping run with us. You can find all of our carts, our two carts, on Instagram @AddtoCartpod, sign up for the newsletter yeah, and I guess hopefully you have the strength and the fortitude to look at SuChin in the eye if you ever come upon her in the wild.

 

SuChin Pak  41:24

If you dare Godspeed. Godspeed.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  41:25

Godspeed.

 

SuChin Pak  41:27

You will know what you’re made of. I dare you to look me in the eye as I’m putting a silky lint chocolate on my tongue with one magnetic lash on with three types of lip cloth. I goddamn dare you.

 

SuChin Pak  41:58

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CREDITS  42:11

Add To Cart is a production of Lemonada Media. Our producers are Kegan Zema and Tiffany Bouy. Brian Castillo is our engineer. Theme music is by Wasahhbii and produced by La Made It and Oh So Familiar with additional music by APM music. Executive producers or Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak, Jessica Cordova Kramer, and Stephanie Wittels Wachs. Be sure to check out all the items we mentioned today on our Instagram at @AddToCartPod. Follow Add to Cart wherever you get your podcasts or listen at free on Amazon music with your Prime membership.