Intellectual Obesity, Nipples, Our Town
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SPEAKERS
Sarah, Sender 5, Sarah Silverman, Sender 7, Rebecca, Sender 2, Ivy, Sender 4, Sender 1, Annie, Amy
Sarah Silverman 00:00
Hey, y’all, I am going on tour. It starts what middle of September in St Louis, and I think it ends in like Toronto in February. What? So come see me. I’ll be definitely near you at some point. You can check out my Instagram bio. It’s like a link tree, link, and you click on it, and you get all the information there. I believe in you. I know you can do this Post Mortem Tour. Please come see me. We’ll have fun. I promise, I think.
Sarah Silverman 00:51
Hey everyone. It’s your old pal, Sarah. And it’s so funny, because yesterday, you know, I’ve been, I’ve been feeling my age internally, and I’ve been feeling it externally and seeing it, you know, I go, God, might I look different, you know, whether I do something or do nothing, you know, in terms of, like Botox or filler or something, or I do nothing at all. My face is changing. My body’s changing. The way I look is changing. I’m trying to not be upset by it. I’m trying to, you know, the one thing that always looks good in the mirror to me is when I’m smiling. So I’m just, like smiling more, which has a very good, you know, effect. So I’ll take it. But, you know, I looked in the mirror and I go, I don’t, I have an ugly cry. Now, like, I can’t even, like cry pretty, like I just and ugly, is, I don’t want to put that on that, but I look, yeah, that was fucked up. But I look older, because I’m older, all those feelings got fortified by the fact that my phone would not recognize me yesterday, every time I looked at my phone, it wouldn’t recognize me, and I had to type the number in, and I it was deeply upsetting to me, but I tried to, you know, put it in perspective. I tried to say, this is natural and but it was really deeply as upsetting to not be recognized by my phone. And I wrote it down in our Google doc to talk about it on the podcast. Well, I have an addendum, because so dumb, I realized that I had put tape over the camera on my phone in the morning yesterday and forgot about it. And the reason I did that was because I was looking at porn. I think because, you know, our cameras are cameras, and the thought of whatever my face looks like when I’m masturbating, that that could ever be seen is so scary that I take a moment and go into my office and grab a little tape and put it over the camera. It’s funny because I told Rory about it. And then, of course, he’s like, turned on by it. And then he’s like, oh, what do you look up? Should we look at it together? And again, I’m just like, you don’t get it. It is so private to me like, I’ll tell you what I’m looking up, but like, it’s stuff that I wouldn’t want my boyfriend to see or take in and think that I enjoy any part of it in real life, I don’t. All right, let’s take some calls.
Sender 1 03:32
Hi Sarah. Two quick things to share with you today. One is, have you heard of Dave Chappelle kindness conspiracy? No, the idea that he’s like, hey, white people, if you want to help do a random act of kindness for a black person, just because they’re black, the same way that for many years, we were doing horrible things to black people for no other reason than that they were black.
Sarah Silverman 04:09
I love it.
Sender 1 04:09
That’s one and two is thinking about the idea today of intellectual obesity, there’s so much content out there to be had I feel myself wanting to absorb a ton of it and listen constantly to podcasts and, you know, learn things. But if I’m not burning those intellectual calories and using them to do something, then all that’s going to end up happening is, I’m just going to be bloviating all over the place, probably one of my favorite words, too. Anyway, thanks for everything, Sarah.
Sarah Silverman 04:46
I love that call. That’s fascinating. One the Chappelle. Chappelle idea is hilarious and great and makes perfect sense to me. Intellectual obesity. Yeah, that’s very interesting. That is, great if you know better, do better could be maybe an encapsulation of that. I guess that’s longer than intellectual obesity, but yeah, if you know better than do something with that, I think I needed that. Yeah, fuck yes. Great call,, great message, interesting. It’s got my juices flowing. I’m thinking about it. I love it. Thanks for calling in, what else?
Sender 2 05:37
Hey, Sarah, I always really love your insights on things. So I have sort of an ethical dilemma I’m sitting with lately, and I’m wondering what you would do. So there’s an organization in the city I live in called Babies And Beyond. In there, they gather any manner of baby and child gear and formula and diapers, and anybody who wants to donate can donate to them, and anybody who wants to, who needs anything, can go get stuff. And people, a lot of people say this place is great, and a lot of people love donating. However, they are very, sort of secretly a crisis pregnancy center and there and anti choice, and their website says we’re life affirming, and it’s sort of like they just keep it on the down low. But this organization, like very much, celebrated the reversal of Roe v. Wade, and I personally cannot stomach donating to them. And I like to tell everybody who tells everybody else to go to babies and beyond that. This is an anti choice organization. It makes my blood boil that people don’t know it, but some people come back and are like, well, what’s the problem? Like, they’re just donating things to people who already have babies. And I’m like, thank you very much. I’ll donate things. There’s 100 other places I can donate it to. But it’s true. Like, is it really supporting their agenda if we’re not giving them any money and they are helping people, what do you think?
Sarah Silverman 07:07
So, I looked this up as you were talking BabiesandBeyond.org. Which is an not for profit, first established as pregnancy helpline. That’s what they were originally called. That’s a fake crisis center. You’re right. They just changed their name babies and beyond. But what I see is they do a lot of great stuff in terms of, they collect donations. Of, you know, your baby grew up, your baby got older now you have all this great baby stuff, a crib, clothes, this, you know, all this stuff. People donate it, and then women or people can can get stuff for free for their babies. That’s wonderful. You know what their politics are, sure. So, you know. But for people who have babies who are pregnant and planning to have babies. This is great. When it was pregnancy helpline, certainly people were calling to try to acquire abortion. I just searched abortion and nothing came up at all. So maybe they are not misleading people anymore. Maybe they’ve doubled down on misleading people by calling it babies and beyond. You know, these things are not necessarily a monolith. It’s great that they have free stuff for young mothers and young families who have kids and can’t afford all the stuff that they need but grow out of very quickly, and they could probably donate it back when they’re done. So that’s great. You don’t have to donate to them. It looks like they do a lot, a lot of good things, but you do not need to give money to this service. You know that they were, at least once, a pregnancy crisis center that, you know, one of those fake abortion centers. It looks like they do a lot of other things that are great. And that’s that, you know, um, you don’t agree with their politics. They shouldn’t be tricking people. It looks like it. What it mostly is, though, is helping people with free stuff. But, yeah, I’m sure there’s a shady, uh, quote, unquote pro life presence in there, I don’t know, don’t donate to them, you know, let people know about it. But it’s not something where you need to, like, protest outside of it, you know, like, I think when pregnancy crisis center, like, you know, pregnancy helpline is the wordage, then, they’re really trying to mislead people and full of shit. So that’s all I got. All right, what else?
Rebecca 09:50
Hi, Sarah, it’s your friend. Rebecca from Portland, I want to say you’re my best friend. I’m not going to say I’m yours because you don’t know. But you’re mine. I’m calling about the woman who said, Get off my tit. I love that first of all, I had the same reaction as you did, which is delight. But I do want to comment on what she said about women or people not enjoying having a dick in their mouth. That’s false, some people really like it, and we don’t just do it because we’re asked or I don’t remember her exact words, but she essentially implied we’re just doing it out of the goodness of our heart, but we don’t like it. Not true. Love it, crave it. Want to do it, want to make a whole meal out of it. Anyway, I just thought I’d speak up for the people who actually really enjoy that. I love you. Love your show you are the delight of my life.
Sarah Silverman 11:01
Rebecca, thank you so much for correcting that caller. And I just want to say I have total respect for you. And you know, let me just say, my friend Rebecca from Portland, loves cock, and that’s a beautiful thing. She loves it in her mouth. You know, you’re right. It’s a matter of taste. I would say that my desire, or lack of desire, my enthusiasm for it, is very emotionally tied to like it turns me on, to turn my partner on. That’s like very, I’m very in. That’s where it comes for for me, it’s not like I love the taste of skin, but I love turning on my partner. That turns me on. And it’s, you know, I get into it. I’m enthusiastic when I when I am I, you know, it’s so funny because the there is a Jewish stereotype that Jewish women don’t like giving blowjobs or something. And I always hear from guy friends like that is so not true on my experience. And I’m like, yeah. I mean, you know, but Jeff Ross, years ago, had a joke that made me laugh so hard. It was something like Amy. You don’t remember it. I can’t remember the and there’s a great tag, and I can’t remember, but it’s just he said, I watched a Jewish porn. It was called, I don’t do that. I just love it so much. There is some, I mean, I, you know, I can’t, I don’t speak for all Jewish women. But there is something funny about it, just because I do think the thing that isn’t true, I hear that, you know that men’s experience with Jewish women is not that at all, but I do think that there is an outspokenness when they don’t want to do something they’re not gonna. You know, I just love it. I watched a Jewish porn movie called, I don’t do that, but there was like a sequel to it, he said.
Amy 13:07
it started. It starts off with, I was dating a porn star.
Sarah Silverman 13:11
Oh, that’s my favorite joke. He goes, I was dating a porn actress. Sorry, he goes, I was dating a porn star. I was dating egos. I was dating a porn star. And she said, you know, we were looking to make a date. And she said, well, I’m working Tuesday and Wednesday. How about Thursday? I said, How about Monday?
Amy 13:37
There’s more to that. There’s like, ugh, and I don’t do that.
Sarah Silverman 13:42
Oh, yeah, I don’t it’s the Jewish porn movie is called, I don’t do that. And then the sequel is called […] I fucking love him so much. I will say mainstream. Judaism. Judaism. How do you say it?
Amy 14:05
Judaism?
Sarah Silverman 14:06
Yeah, I think when I write it out, I It’s like, judae, that’s our it’s like calling Wednesday wed-nest-day, because that’s how you remember how to spell it. The Jewish religion is other than the extremes. Is very sex positive, though, I would say, like, even in the religion, it’s not just to procreate, it’s also for pleasure. You know, even like the religious text, until, like, like all religions, you get to the extremists who are, like, again, like all religions, extremely hateful and controlling of women. Wow, that took a turn.
Sender 4 14:43
Hey, Sarah, you’re amazing. Thank you for doing what you do. Yeah, so I’m gonna try not to ramble. I’m 49 I’m about to be 49 sorry, I think when we get older, we’re like, oh, I’m the next like, it’s just happening. You know it’s happening. So it’s just, you’re already there mentally. So I’m gonna be 49 my question is, just, do you ever find your purpose? Like, are there some people in the world, I might be one of them. I don’t know. They don’t ever really find your purpose, like repressed, creative person who I never know how to get that energy out. I try to and then I get distracted and I get bogged down with my emotions. And you know, when you’re a thinking, feeling, empathetic person every day feels overwhelming in some way, especially in the landscape we’re living in, right? It’s just hard to block things out and focus on what you need to potentially focus on to be successful, to get out that creative energy. Yeah, I feel like I’m distracted by everything and yeah, like I feel like I’ve kind of lost my way, like I’m just kind of floating out here in space trying to figure out what’s my purpose.
Sarah Silverman 16:17
First of all, I just want to say that creativity, art, all those things don’t have to be your purpose for you to enjoy them, experience them, express yourself creatively. All that stuff is important for every single person to do so it doesn’t have to be perfect. Don’t be paralyzed by feeling like it has to be something that you’d want to show someone or, you know, just do the bad version is always what I say, but like, Listen, I’m playing way too much Call of Duty in my life, and I worry about my creative side, but because it’s my job, I do focus on that a lot. That’s like the work. But sometimes I’ll go, like, the other night, I go, all right, I’m just gonna go play the piano, and saying, do I play the piano? Well, no, I’m just learning. I’m figuring out chords. I’m I’m because I can play the guitar. I’m trying to figure out, like, learning to have hobbies that don’t have to be your career in in terms of art and creative is a really wonderful, freeing realization, especially if you’re in the arts, you know to go like, I don’t have to be good at this other thing. I just want to play with it. I want to try it. I want to express myself. So that’s just a constant, and that can be in your life in as big or small ways as you want, in terms of your purpose. At minimum, your purpose is just to be, just to exist, to find the things that bring you pleasure. This is your purpose, to be a detective in your own life so you can, you know, root out any historical shit that’s holding you back from maximum happiness. And part of happiness is like having a job that hopefully you like, that you make the money to have the life that makes you happy, you know, like, it’s not just like whatever brings you joy. And, you know, obviously people have to make ends meet. That’s part of it. That’s part of happiness. That’s your baseline purpose. And that’s pretty big and pretty great, and it’s massive, and it’s wonderful. What our actual purpose is is probably none of our business. Meaning, I use that squirrel example, squirrels hoard their acorns so that nobody will steal them. God or the universe or whatever the fuck is out there, have made this animal so paranoid that people want their fucking acorns that they hide them and and then the amazing fun fact is, they only find 20% of the nuts they hide. They find two out of every 10 acorns they hide. And I thought that was such a funny Fun fact, but it really made me think about purpose, because whatever the purpose is that they think is their life hiding these acorns so that they always have enough to eat, is actually their purposes, is planting trees, you know, like the purpose of dinosaur was to live and then go extinct and then millions of years later, become crude oil for humans To have the Industrial Revolution and to build machine and to ultimately build robot and then go extinct like the dinosaur, because I think that’s probably our purpose. I could be wrong, though I made that up. There you go, good luck. You’ve got lots of purpose already in the. If you find something else that out of playing and enjoying yourself creatively, that becomes your purpose, awesome, but just to be. My mom used to always say, I’m a human being, not a human doing, and I never understood it, and it annoyed me. And now I understand it to be a human, just being is in the best world enough. All right, what else?
Sender 5 20:31
Hi, Sarah. I am leaving a message from British Columbia, Canada. Love you lots. Like everyone else does. I am responding to your response to a caller who was calling about work advice she was having a hard time finding a job, and I thought the advice you gave her was really great, which was to think about what you are good at. Naturally, my wife used to care for people with disabilities, but it burned her out. And she has, she’s bipolar too, so she’s dealing with that, and she was looking for a new career path. And she was, you know, she knew she was great at organizing, She’s a perfectionist, and she learned bookkeeping, the last thing she thought she would do, but she actually loves it, and that is pretty much following your advice. That said, I’m curious to know if you weren’t a stand up comedian. Maybe you’ve answered this before, but I’ll try it again. Based on what you know of yourself and what your interests are and what you’re good at, what other jobs or careers do you think that you would be interested in if you weren’t a comedian? Thanks, bye.
Sarah Silverman 21:49
I mean, I’d just be a funny something else. I guess I always think I’d want to work with animals or children or the elderly or any combination teach, maybe some kind of caretaker, but that does bring you out, I know, something with primates or elephants, something with love, something where I can, you know, make a difference. You know, maybe with just one person, but in some way. Yeah no, that I always thought, maybe with the work with, like, mentally challenged adults or mentally challenged children, or something like that, finding people’s superpowers, boy, I just like, want to go and hug a cow somewhere. I want to go to that gentle farm I saw on Instagram that there was just a woman with her pet cow, and the cow had, like hair, like, it was, like, a long haired cow so beautiful. She’s like, you know, when you just want to smoosh a puppy or someone like, you just want to, like, hug them, but you don’t want to hug them too tight. Well, you don’t, you can’t hug a cow too tight. They can take it like, squeezing them, hugging them, kissing them. You know, I think there are a lot of people that are looking for some place to put all that. Anyway, I’m one of them. What else?
Ivy 23:22
Hi, Sarah, Ivy here, hesitantly leaving this message for fear of sounding like a creep. But from time to time, Amy Z’s voice would pop up, you know, when you talk to her. So I thought, I wonder what she looks like, and I Googled her, found her. And Amy, you’re hot, you’re absolutely gorgeous. So that was a sweet surprise, maybe not a surprise. I figured you would be, anyway just wanted to let you know. And Sarah know in the world, know, please, don’t let my girlfriend know. Thank you take care.
Sarah Silverman 24:09
I’m guessing you made her day. She’s kind of dying, I concur. And thank you for calling in. What do you think of that, Amy?
Amy 24:26
Ivy, that is the nicest thing anyone’s ever said to me, and I appreciate it so very much. Whether I agree with you or not, is not the point.
Sarah Silverman 24:37
That’s right, none of your business.
Amy 24:39
But that is lovely and kind and generous, and I am floored and speechless now.
Sarah Silverman 24:49
Finally, speechless, Jesus.
Amy 24:52
Bitch.
Sender 7 24:53
Hey Sarah, I was just wondering, because you grew up in New Hampshire, if you were ever in the play our town.
Sarah Silverman 25:12
Oh, my God.
Sender 7 25:13
Or like, maybe we’re in it a bunch of times.
Sarah Silverman 25:15
Can’t believe.
Sender 7 25:16
My sense is that in New Hampshire, like everyone’s just doing our town all the time. And if you were in it, what role did you play? Okay, thanks, bye.
Sarah Silverman 25:33
This is so bizarre I can’t even I literally have been on an our town jag like yesterday, yesterday, I did my annual sometimes twice a year, watching the Our Town from 1989 Lincoln Center, which is my favorite one starring Penelope Ann Miller and Eric Stoltz. Yeah, I grew up loving our town. I was never in it. But it’s funny because I, while talking about this just yesterday, I kind of learned from the people I was talking to that it’s a New Hampshire thing. I mean, it is. It’s a classic Thornton Wilder play, but in terms of, like, knowing it as a kid, or knowing it as you know, whatever it it must be, because I’m from New Hampshire. It takes place in New Hampshire in like the 1800s and they it’s traditionally done with no sets. It’s all just like pantomime or whatever, you know. And then the two, like main characters are young, and then they get older, they fall in love, they get married, and then she dies in childbirth. Okay, I just took you through the first two acts, and it’s so fucking good. It’s just, it’s not any crazy plot or anything. It’s just very kind of everyday life and death, but It’s so fucking beautiful. And as a teenager, I would sit in my room and perform Emily’s monolog at the end, which always makes me cry. And it’s so beautiful. And I always, if I don’t watch the whole thing, I watch Act Three. It’s on YouTube. There’s two parts, and it’s short. It’s the third act. It’s the short act. But act three of our town from 1989 Lincoln Center, starring Penelope Ann Miller. She is so fucking brilliant. Oh, and I just fucking watched it yesterday. That’s so crazy. To reminds me of, weren’t we just talking about like or someone called in and said, when you learn a new word and then you hear it everywhere? Is that a coincidence, or is it because, like, your ears are now open to hearing this word? I thought it was the latter. I believe it’s the ladder, but now I’m just this is like the craziest coincidence. I love our town, and I love the third act is her dead, and it’s just like 20 folding chairs of people sitting, or in this production, it is, and they’re all the dead people in the cemetery. And now here is Emily. She’s there too now, and they’re talking, and she wants to go back and, like, experience one day from her life. And they’re saying, Emily, don’t do it. Trust me. It’s like, you won’t be glad you did it. And she’s like, no, I want to do it. I need to do it. And they’re like, well, don’t pick, like, a special day, pick an ordinary day. And she decides to pick her 12th birthday, and she goes back, and she’s like, partly her 12 year old self, going like, Mama, where’s my dress, or, you know, whatever. But also is herself now, seeing her mother, just like, busy doing the dishes, making breakfast and everything, and she and no one is like seeing her, you know, and she’s just like, and she just sees the she’s overwhelmed by the absolute beauty of everyday life, and she’s so frustrated that no one sees it while they’re living it. And there’s a character in the play that’s called the stage manager, that’s basically the narrator, like Paul Newman played it in a version which I also have on my phone that I’m gonna watch. And she turns to him, and she said, does anybody ever realize how beautiful life is while they live it? I’m paraphrasing. And he says, no, the poets maybe you know. But she’s just like, oh Earth, you’re too beautiful for anyone to realize you. And then she says, goodbye, you know, she says, Okay, I want to take me back to my grave. I don’t want to do this anymore. And she just does this monolog about saying goodbye to it all. And she’s just saying goodbye to like these mundane things that she sees now is so beautiful. And you know, like the smell of coffee and, you know, her parents and her, you know, taking a bath and whatever. Just, anyway, I just gave you the basics, but the performance is unbelievable, and it’s just really beautiful. All right, what else?
Annie 30:16
Hey, Sarah, it’s your best friend, Annie calling again. I’m a comic here in Los Angeles, and, well, I just had the worst bombing of my entire life at the Comedy Store, literally like my dream place to do stand up. And I bombed so badly. Sarah, no one laughed at me. There were zero laughs. I mean, maybe they laughed at me, but not at my jokes. And then also I basically started to black out because I was so nervous and horrified at how badly I was bombing so I didn’t see the light. And then they had to flash the light at me, which is so embarrassing. So anyway, I just was calling you hoping that maybe you could tell us about a story from early on in your career, of maybe when you bombed early from all of your heroes at your favorite stand up place in the world, because that would make me feel a lot better. Okay, I love you so much, and I’m gonna try not to cry myself to sleep, bye.
Sarah Silverman 31:27
I still bomb sometimes I really do a lot of people do a lot of good comics. Do you know maybe you’re a terrible comic? I have no idea. Maybe you’re a terrible comic that’s going to grow into an amazing comic. Maybe you are brilliant already, you know, I don’t know. Did you record it? I would listen back. I would listen and listen back. Learn something from it. But nobody’s impervious to bombing. Very few, comics are boy, I bombed, you know, my whole first year of comedy, probably, and I continue to sometimes, you know, I mean, I have the benefit of a lot of people coming to see me specifically. And, you know, some crowds are just almost too good. But I still, I ate shit at the Improv not long ago. It’s just how it is. Listen, I’m not gonna lie sometimes it’s the crowd, but don’t get used to blaming the crowd. I will say the original room at the Comedy Store. I love it, but I would compare it. I like to compare it to one step above doing comedy in the mirror in your bathroom. I’ve also seen people fucking murder that room’s also been on fire. But oftentimes it’s, it’s that, and that can be great practice, but it learn from every time you bomb. If you if you still want to get out there every night, then you have something to say. Try to figure out where it went wrong. Persevere, figure out what’s funny to you, and figure out how to communicate that in a way that is funny to others. I, you know, listen, I, I just said this to someone. I, you know, I’ve been doing comedy for decades now, and I still, if somebody said, what’s your process, I’d be like, I don’t, I have no idea. I’m always trying new things. You know, I don’t have a process that is locked in, that works great anyway, good luck. Maybe you’re meant to be a writer, maybe you’re meant to be a banker, or maybe you’re meant to be a comic. Great comics bomb, but terrible comics bomb too. So I don’t know, look inward see, see how hot this fever is for comedy and persevere, if you if you must, and if you must, there must be something there. So good luck. All right, what else?
Sarah 34:08
Hi, Sarah. This is Sarah from the mountains of the desert, and I’m a calling because of the conversation you were having about nipples and nipple sensitivity, slash not sensitivity. And I just thought I’d share this with you so one of my exes, who was a man, had the most sensitive nipples of anyone I’ve ever known, like even just barely touching them would send him through the roof. It’s a thing. It brought him pleasure in the right circumstances, but also great distress and like it tickled him like crazy, if it wasn’t a sexual circumstance. Also, I just thought I’d share that I also used to have basically no pleasure when my nipples were stimulated. I and actually had a baby and breastfed, and ever since he was weaned and I moved on with my life, my nipples are now very sensitive, and I enjoy having them stimulated during sexual pleasure time. So I just thought I’d share that with you. It’s really interesting how our nerve endings can change what they enjoy or feel over time. That’s it. I love your show. Thank you so much, bye.
Sarah Silverman 35:27
That’s so true. You know, like, I used to only like penetration, but now I like other stuff a lot. Or, like, I used to think beets were fucking disgusting, and now I do like beets, as long as they’re not like I don’t like the slimy version. I like like a dryer beet or olives. Disgusted by olives. Now I love olives. Good point, good story, Sarah, way to take something sexual and exciting and make it about olives. All right, dad, I miss you. Dad, we are winding down. This is the part of the podcast when I say, send me your questions. If you’re listening to this and you have a question about anything or comment about anything, go to speakpipe.com/theSarahSilvermanpodcast. This is an order, we’re getting calls. We have regulars, that’s great, but go for it. Call in, tell me what you’re thinking. Tell me where I’m going wrong. Tell me where I’m going right. Have a comment about something going on in the world. Make a, you know, whatever the fuck anything that’s popped into your head where you’re like, I wonder what Sarah would think of that, ask it, say it and subscribe, rate and review wherever you listen to podcasts. Do that too oh, yeah. Plus, there’s more of the Sarah Silverman Podcast with Lemonada. Premium subscribers get exclusive access to bonus questions like, what about a digital orgy? Subscribe now on Apple podcasts. Thank you for listening to the Sarah Silverman podcast, we are a production of Lemonada media. Kathryn Barnes and Isabella Kulkarni produce our show. Our mix is by James Sparber. The show is recorded at the Invisible Studios in West Hollywood. Charles Carroll is our recording engineer. Additional Lemonada support from Steve Nelson, Stephanie Wittels Wachs and Jessica Cordova Kramer. Our theme was composed by Ben Folds. You can find me at @SarahKateSilverman on Instagram. Follow the Sarah Silverman podcast wherever you get your podcasts, or listen ad free on Amazon music with your Prime membership.