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It’s spooky season, and Ellie and Scott have a lot to say! The two compare costumes and confectionery faves, then find themselves on opposite sides of several cultural divides — including one that involves grubby hands. Also: a human-sized pinata enters the chat.

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Transcript

SPEAKERS

Ellie Kemper, Scott Eckert

Ellie Kemper  00:09

Welcome to Born To Love the show where we talk to the people we love about the things they love. I’m Ellie Kemper.

 

Scott Eckert  00:17

And I’m Scott Eckert.

 

Ellie Kemper  00:19

And today we are going to be talking about.

 

Scott Eckert  00:22

Halloween, the spookiest of all of the holidays. Well, we’re gonna, we’re gonna really dig deep into Halloween. We’re gonna talk candy. We’re gonna talk costumes. We’re gonna talk pumpkins. We’re gonna talk more before we get to that. Ellie, how’s your week? What are you loving?

 

Ellie Kemper  00:46

My Week was amazing. It was a really great week with some awful parts too. Just like most weeks, guys, you gotta love some things. You gotta be sad about others, but we’re gonna focus on the things that we love this week. Scott, I’ve had this love for a few weeks now because a few weeks ago, I made a purchase that has changed my life, a financial purchase. I put money into this. I bought something.

 

Scott Eckert  01:11

This is not a rental situation, it’s a buy situation.

 

Ellie Kemper  01:15

I bought it. I’m committed to it. Scott, it’s my treadmill.

 

Scott Eckert  01:20

You bought a full size treadmill.

 

Ellie Kemper  01:22

I went out I said, I am putting myself first for once.

 

Scott Eckert  01:31

Singular time.

 

Ellie Kemper  01:35

I’m putting me first. And Scott, you know that my one, the one thing that I do and enjoy. Is running okay? And I have found it a little.

 

Scott Eckert  01:45

Wait hold on, the phone. You like to run Ellie?

 

Ellie Kemper  01:48

I love running. Whenever Scott and I sit down and we and we come together and we put together a list of our hobbies, Scott has numerous interests. There’s so much that he’s curious about interested loves in life, my little hobby, the one thing that I contribute to the list, is running. It’s all that I like outside of, you know, whatever has to get done. So running is a joy for me. It’s a release. It’s a meditation. I love it. I’ve spoken a lot about it, and it has been hard for me to find, so I moved I’m not familiar with the running routes around here. I often my children are with me. They’re too big to push in a stroller, so I put their little iPads on, and I say, guys, I’ll see you in 30 minutes, and I hop on my treadmill, and it is the most liberating experience. Scott, here’s what I love about my treadmill. I know exactly how fast I’m going. I’ve tried the watches. I’ve tried the, you know, trackers. I don’t trust them for a minute that I have no idea, and it’s too complicated. I have to stop and check the watch here. I plug in a speed, and I go that speed, and if I’m not going that speed, I have to slow down to another speed, and I can see how fast it is. I love it.

 

Scott Eckert  03:05

I so here’s the truth. Ellie, yeah, I’ve spent very little of my life running. As you know, I’m on, I’m almost your inverse. Don’t like it, but I have spent a fair amount of time on a treadmill, like if I’m gonna run, more often than not, over the course of my life, it’s been on a treadmill or even an elliptical, which is like a lamer still version of a treadmill.

 

Ellie Kemper  03:27

Elliptical is a joke.

 

Scott Eckert  03:31

Well, you know what? Let’s check back in in 30 years and see what our knees think. Okay. Anyway, so Ellie, I’ve got, I’ve got some questions about this treadmill.

 

Ellie Kemper  03:43

Touche monomy had to show up that I knew French okay, yes.

 

Scott Eckert  03:49

Um, where is it?

 

Ellie Kemper  03:53

Now, this will probably be a little controversial. It’s in the bedroom. It’s in my bedroom.

 

Scott Eckert  04:02

No, listeners, I didn’t know that. It seems like a comedic setup, like that was the punchline to a joke. She’s just that strange. You put a treadmill in your own bedroom?

 

Ellie Kemper  04:15

Yeah, there’s no other place for it. Okay, there. There isn’t. I don’t have a gym, sorry, Scott. Scott lives basically in Versailles. He has multiple gyms in his room. He has what French, I know it. He has it would be.

 

Scott Eckert  04:30

It would be like, I don’t know the garage or the den or go ahead.

 

Ellie Kemper  04:36

I want to be breathing in car fumes while I run. Is what I was gonna say.

 

Scott Eckert  04:40

Go on, turn the car off.

 

Ellie Kemper  04:43

You do.

 

Scott Eckert  04:46

We’re starting off hot, just just, just the slightest, the slightest ribbing about where Ellie’s treadmill is and the demon comes out. Good, good, good news that this is a Halloween episode, guys, because you’ve got evil spirits. Spirits on the past.

 

Ellie Kemper  05:03

Stupid. Okay, give me another example of where it could go, my California basement. Yeah, that’s a good place for those who don’t know the term a California basement is like an unfinished little hole where you put, I don’t know, an old bike that California doesn’t have basements because of earthquakes. Is that?

 

Scott Eckert  05:20

So what did your husband What was his reaction when, because you had to look out for number one, this is something, for the first time, you’re doing something for yourself. And you said, Michael, I’m gonna buy a treadmill. And he said, You deserve it. And you said, it’s going in our bedroom. What happened next?

 

Ellie Kemper  05:38

Well, guess what? Michael was at home. He didn’t have a say. And if you think he’s strong enough to move by treadmill to another room, you got another thing coming. It’s sitting in there until I call the boys back to take it away.

 

Scott Eckert  05:51

Well, how did now I need to I said I only have three questions. We were stuck on the first one, what? What did the did the delivery people have a reaction, like their reaction when you pointed where you wanted to go. They didn’t did? They have a dumbfounded look on their face, and they said, bam, surely not.

 

Ellie Kemper  06:09

Scott, I get the sense that these delivery people had seen it all. And they also want to point out, I think this is part of the reason why I love my treadmill so much. The man who assembled the treadmill was the most. He had the calmest, most relaxing. It’s kind of like that. What is it? A A, R, m i, the thing on where you listen to calm noises to Oh yeah, ami, AI, what is that? Yeah, MRP and MRI. It’s ASMR, thank you, Keegan, that’s our producer who let me know it’s ASMR, and that was this man’s voice as he assembled my treadmill. So not only was he not shocked, he was actually comforting. He, he, he, he was. He endorsed my choice of putting it in the bedroom. Third question

 

Scott Eckert  06:57

Okay, no word. Second, okay. First question was, where is it? The answer was, bedroom, yes. Second question is, since you do measure your speed, what is it usually? How fast are you going?

 

Ellie Kemper  07:09

I knew you would go there. Here’s the deal. I I’ve talked before about how much I love slow running. I’m getting back. I don’t I’m embarrassed. Is what it comes down to, if I share my speed, people will be like, You call yourself a runner. So my challenging speed is something I’m not going to name right now. Here’s what I’m going to do, Scott. I’m going to run a race in a really in a time that I’m aiming for, and then I will come back and I will reveal my speeds. Right now, I’m a work in progress.

 

Scott Eckert  07:36

If I told you that my speed was six, what would you think?

 

Ellie Kemper  07:40

Okay, maybe this will reveal something about me. I think that’s great. You’re go in in an hour, you would have run six miles. What’s wrong with that? That’s like 10 minute miles, right? That seems okay. You and I both did the math correctly. In this case, that seems great to me. I am going faster than six. Did I brag? Or what? Or are the runners listening laughing at me for bragging about going faster than six, but it’s faster than six.

 

Scott Eckert  08:05

Well, what I didn’t tell you was that my incline was 20.

 

Ellie Kemper  08:08

Okay.

 

Scott Eckert  08:10

Treadmill jokes, all right. Last question for you, Ellie, okay, are you watching anything while you run?

 

Ellie Kemper  08:17

Not even close. I have such disdain for people who watch things, here’s the deal. When you’re watching something and you’re running, the screen is like bobbing up and down because your eyes are moving. I understand listening to a podcast that makes plenty of sense to me. On a treadmill, it is hard to listen to a podcast because there’s nothing going on. What I do is I either put on music, or I’ve mentioned this before, I put on a peloton little video or like instruction, and I don’t even follow the instructions of what they’re saying. I just like having a coach in my ear telling me that I can do it all. And I’ve made it through all of my bad days, so I’ll make it through this one too. It’s great I don’t watch I do not watch movies. I do listen to music or someone or an instructor, while not following their instructions. Scott, the treadmill is such an easy release. I to anyone who is who has some cash to spare and is looking for an investment for their mind, body and, frankly, spirit, I would, I would really recommend joining me in purchasing a treadmill. It’s great. I love it. I’m loving it.

 

Scott Eckert  09:19

Okay, well, Ellie, I’m delighted. I couldn’t be happier for you and your treadmill. It seems like it was the right investment for you, treadmill, big treadmill is not paying for this. No sponsorship. This is just from the heart. From the heart. Well, let’s transition. We’ll pivot to something that we’re excited to talk about, and that is this week’s biggest holiday, Halloween. We talked to the people we love about the things we love. Today, we’re talking to each other about at least my favorite holiday. So stick around for our conversation about Halloween.

 

Ellie Kemper  10:04

All right, guys, we are here this week talking about the biggest event of the week, which is to say Halloween.

 

Scott Eckert  10:15

Goblins and ghouls and candy and razor blades. So Ellie.

 

Ellie Kemper  10:21

Yeah, talk to me.

 

Scott Eckert  10:23

What’s your Where do you come down on Halloween? Halloween probably my favorite holiday, although I will say I love a lot of them. How about you? Are you a Halloween lover or not as much?

 

Ellie Kemper  10:34

No, I love Halloween. And here’s the thing, I may have given you a different answer even last year, because the thing is, I go up and down on Halloween. So this year, you’ve caught me. I’m all for Halloween. I have mentioned this several times even over the course of this episode, but having recently moved, I happen to be in a very Halloween enthusiastic neighborhood, and the decorations, Scott, they are, they are out full force. I mean, you know those? I don’t It’s, I think they’re from Party City, the giant skeletons and the giant werewolves, like I’m talking like, 12 feet tall. Have you seen those?

 

Scott Eckert  11:13

I mean, there’s so many different kinds. Are you talking about the ones that are inflatable, or are you talking about the like, movie props.

 

Ellie Kemper  11:20

Home Depot. It’s the Home Depot ones. You’ve seen some in your neighborhood, Scott. But like, it’s so much fun at first, I thought, oh, because this is the first time I’ve had a front yard in a while. And I thought, I’m going to be the only one on this street. Like decorating. And the thing is that no starting mid September, people start and that doesn’t bother me a bit, putting up Halloween decorations mid September. Give us something to celebrate. Summer is ending, fall is beginning. Let’s celebrate for six weeks. I love it.

 

Scott Eckert  11:50

Do you? Did you stock up on now that you’ve moved? Is your house decked out in Halloween memorabilia?

 

Ellie Kemper  11:58

Yeah, but in a very specific way, Does this ever happen with you? Scott, you have an idea for how you want to do this, like playful child. What’s what I’m looking for? It’s for children. Halloween is for children, right? So you think, oh, I want, but I an adult, want to take part in this too. So I had my idea of how I wanted to decorate the house, but then my little children stepped in and they decorated it the way they had in mind. So it’s sort of like haphazard and not as organized as I like, but yes, it’s decked out, but it’s very it’s not organized, and it’s driving me crazy. It’s just like a crow here and an old picture that changes, like images we have a we have a number of frames where you look at it for it’s like a hologram. You look at it from one direction, and it’s like an old antique couple smiling. And then you move change, you turn around, and it turns into like a vampire.

 

Scott Eckert  12:52

Terrifying. I’m terrified. Yes, I know that. I know those Exactly. I’m impressed that you own some. I thought those were only at the Haunted Mansion, the Haunted Mansion in Disney.

 

Ellie Kemper  13:04

No, they’re here too. You can get anything you want these days. It’s great. Scott, what is your favorite part about Halloween?

 

Scott Eckert  13:12

Well, Ellie, one of the things that I love about Halloween is that it’s evolved over the years. Oh, and I think that other holidays are like this, but I think Halloween is the most this that that it’s fun no matter what age you are. If you’re eight, it’s super fun to get dressed up and go trick or treating. If you are 15, it is super fun to get dressed up and maybe pull some pranks, maybe do some tee peeing, doing the stuff you’re not supposed to do, because that’s the one night that it’s encouraged. It’s the tricks part of the trick or treat. Yeah. And then you get in your 20s, maybe you make some irresponsible decisions, maybe you drink a little bit too much.

 

Ellie Kemper  13:59

A little too much witches.

 

Scott Eckert  14:03

and then you get a little bit more mature. Maybe, in my case, you get married, maybe you even have little babies and dressing babies up in pumpkin costumes. Maybe the most adorable thing yet, universally adorable, it comes full circle. And now I’m a parent, and my kids are the ones getting, you know, dolled up in their own costumes and running and trick or treating, and I get to trick or treat with them, and that’s fun so.

 

Ellie Kemper  14:32

there’s no stage of Halloween, except for those who don’t like Halloween. There is no stage of Halloween that is not fun. It’s fun like you just, you just outlined the entire life cycle of a Halloween participants, although you haven’t gotten to the grandparent phase yet, and that’s what do they do. They so, you know what they do? I think they hand out those popcorn balls, right?

 

Scott Eckert  14:54

Well, they just, they just, they’re the ones handing out the candy. Is what they do, yeah, whether they’re popcorn balls. I hope it’s not all popcorn balls. Those are pretty rough.

 

Ellie Kemper  15:03

Nobody wants that. And do you know what it is?

 

Scott Eckert  15:06

No, it’s a ball. Now that, now that you asked me, What? What is you’re asking? What? What sticks the popcorns into a ball?

 

Ellie Kemper  15:14

I guess I just remember all the old people on our street would hand out popcorn balls. And this is now I’m dating myself, 1988 or so, but they would hand out popcorn balls, and it was the least desirable. But you know what? I’m sure the grandparents enjoyed making them, so I’m looking forward to that phase. Scott, my favorite Halloween costume, pivoting everything. This was handmade by my mother. Shout out to Dottie. This was iconic. You can guess who I was.

 

Scott Eckert  15:43

Well, I so I’m guessing now I’m going through, it’s got to be something that I think your mother could create. So careful. Well, she’s very she’s a talented seamstress.

 

Ellie Kemper  15:56

She’s a craftswoman. Yes, don’t put a limit on on what she could make, what she could craft, and the only clue you had here are the clues my mom made it, and it’s iconic.

 

Scott Eckert  16:12

All right, I’m just dying to hear what you what, what fits, what fits into iconic for you, I’m gonna guess, uh, raggedy. Ann,

 

Ellie Kemper  16:23

very good guess the answer is, Pippy long stocking is coming into your world. Do you guys remember that show or movie? I think no, it was a show. I was Pippy long stocking. For those of you who don’t know who Pippy long stocking is, she is a girl with braids that stick up, right? And there’s something, yeah.

 

Scott Eckert  16:45

Totally, did she have red hair, Ellie?

 

Ellie Kemper  16:48

of course she did. That’s, that’s where the iconic part comes in. She had red hair. I think it’s a Swedish series Pippi long stocking. My mom made the dress. My mom and, you know, I grew up in St Louis, so it most, I would say most parts of the country are probably a little chilly on Halloween, not to generalize, but I would say most parts of the country are cold, right?

 

Scott Eckert  17:08

So summer’s over. So yeah, we’re into autumn. I think it’s fair to say chillier than the summertime, for sure, right?

 

Ellie Kemper  17:14

I don’t want to offend anyone if they live in a hot climate in the US so anyway.

 

Scott Eckert  17:19

If you’re celebrating Halloween in Arizona, you’re doing it wrong. Sorry, Arizona,

 

Ellie Kemper  17:26

such a sweeping statement to just throw in there casually.

 

Scott Eckert  17:31

Back Arizona, it’s cool, you, do you? It’s a hot Halloween. Could be fun.

 

Ellie Kemper  17:36

Yeah,  so I had long underwear, whatever, I had my thermals on, but the actual dress and hair that that could not that was unaffected by the cold, I looked amazing. I had the most fun. What was your favorite costume growing up? Scott, and it doesn’t matter if your mom made it or not.

 

Scott Eckert  17:56

Well, sadly, I don’t have any real vivid memories of my growing up costumes? Oh, I think probably Batman was one. I think Voltron was, was one? Voltron, potentially. What was Voltron is a giant robot that’s made of other robots.

 

Ellie Kemper  18:16

I know what Voltron is. What did you name after Voltron?

 

Scott Eckert  18:21

Batman? Voltron. What did I just say? He man, Heman. I’m thinking of very young. I’m just a guess. I’m not certain that I or maybe actually from he man. There’s a character on that show called Orco that I may have been he’s a little wizard, but, but the my favorite Halloween costume something I may have mentioned on this podcast, because I love it so much. My favorite Halloween costume was in that 20s era of having a little too much witches brew. I don’t know if you’re at this party. You may have been Ellie. I wore a stove pipe hat. I had a beard. I wore no shirt, oh, and a bathing suit and flip flops, and I had a towel around my neck. And it was New York and it was cold, because, like you say, Halloween is a chilly time of year, so it was unusual for me to be to be going shirtless, to be to be wearing this bathing suit at whatever bar we were at. Do you know what I was? Ellie, oh, wait, you had a towel, stovepipe hat, beard, and then a bathing suit and a towel.

 

Ellie Kemper  19:28

Oh, I know what you were. You were able Lincoln at the beach.

 

Scott Eckert  19:31

Abe, Lincoln at the beach, baby. And that exchange happened about 20 times, and got satisfying each time more satisfying each time. People would be like, What are you? And I’d be like, What do you think I am? And they go, Abraham Lincoln at the beach, and I go, that’s exactly right.

 

Ellie Kemper  19:53

Scott, this warms my heart that you’re still getting asked who you were, and that it still. Satisfying to hear the answer, that’s a brilliant costume. I’m sure I was at the party. I’m usually at the party, so I don’t remember that specific costume.

 

Scott Eckert  20:10

But then you must not have been at the party, because talk about iconic that’s true.

 

Ellie Kemper  20:16

You win.

 

Scott Eckert  20:17

What about costumes this year? Do your kids have costume, and do they have their costumes picked out? My kids do? I’m willing to go first if you want.

 

Ellie Kemper  20:26

I’m gonna go first be and I’ll tell you why, because they haven’t decided yet. And they do this every quick, oh, Scott, you don’t need to tell me the past, however long they’ve been alive, eight years, five years. I don’t know how old they are, they decide at two or three days beforehand, which leaves me they don’t want they keep changing their minds, and they don’t want to be held to bound to a decision until two or until they absolutely have to be. Which leaves me as a parent, no time to help them, and they usually are just gathering dress up clothes from around the house, which is fine, but, you know, part of the fun is planning the costume, but they don’t seem to have learned that yet, so that I don’t know what they’re gonna be. I’ll let you know, Scott, what are Jenny and Jack planning for the night of ghoulish merriment?

 

Scott Eckert  21:18

Well, for costumes, we have a whole plan. We have a whole agenda. My wife does it right. But for costume, specifically, Jenny is going to be grew from the Despicable Me movies. So she has a big long nose and a big scarf, and she has a a grew accent, which is, which is like, did I don’t know it is sort of vaguely Eastern, Eastern European, and she shows so all night long, she’s going to be wearing her fake nose and using that fake accent, yep, and my son is going as a Revolutionary War general. But it is not George Washington. So, so he has a blue coat and like a George Washington wig. Like, if you, if you saw a picture of him, you’d think, Oh, he’s, he’s George Washington. But he, for some weird reason, just wants to be, like his own, his own Revolutionary era military leader like.

 

Ellie Kemper  22:19

I couldn’t love these choices more. Your children are creative beyond compare, and also celebrating the Halloween with all appropriate enthusiasm. I love the specific choices. Did you have? Did you influence either of those decisions?

 

Scott Eckert  22:36

No, I know. In fact, I might have, I might have, if I had any influence, I might have shifted them in a different direction,but.

 

Ellie Kemper  22:44

uh, tell me what direction I don’t know. I

 

Scott Eckert  22:46

mean, grew. I love the costume. It’s fine. I don’t really love the accent, if I’m being honest.

 

Ellie Kemper  22:55

Scott, your daughter listens to Jenny.

 

Scott Eckert  22:58

Jenny, your your accents, excellent. I just don’t really want to hear four hours of it.

 

Ellie Kemper  23:03

Well, guess what? She’ll be with her friends so you won’t have to hear it Halloween Grinch in the house. Excuse me, yeah.

 

Scott Eckert  23:12

Well, see, the thing is that we are throwing a pre trick or treat Halloween party.

 

Ellie Kemper  23:19

Am I coming? What was? What is this like? Non invite.

 

Scott Eckert  23:22

You’re invited as of right this moment, yes, absolutely, you’re, it’s a neighborhood party, but you’re, you’re welcome to come. Won’t make it. Yeah, all right. So like all the kids come over, we order the cheapest available pizza, and then we play Candy games and and then the the highlight of the Halloween party immediately before we go trick or treating, is we get an enormous pinata from the pinata district here in Los Angeles, which, which, they’re much, much, much bigger than any pinatas I’ve ever seen, so like, whatever You’re thinking of Party City, or whatever, way bigger than that. And then the kids, they do it, they smash it to bits and and scrounge for the candy as soon as it falls. And then we and then we go trick or treating and have more. You know what? Ellie this is. I wasn’t planning to do this. Give me one second. You can cut the paws out. Producers, just I’m gonna grab the pinata.

 

Ellie Kemper  24:24

Here it comes. Oh my gosh, that is an enormous is it Frankenstein?

 

Scott Eckert  24:31

What is this? Is Yes, it’s Frankenstein. As you can see, his head is is larger than mine.

 

Ellie Kemper  24:38

It’s three times as big as Scott’s head. It’s as tall as Scott and Scott. Scott was Abe Lincoln was me. Scott’s six foot two. Is that right? Yes, that’s right. That’s right. Abe Lincoln was six foot four, I guess so. He’s almost as tall as a Lincoln. But this Frankenstein pinata is six, easily six feet.

 

Scott Eckert  24:56

It’s very big, and if it were to be filled with candy. It would weigh 40 pounds.

 

Ellie Kemper  25:02

Were it to be when it to be.

 

Scott Eckert  25:05

Well, it will be filled. There will be some candy, but I can’t fill it entirely with candy. It’ll be too full, right?

 

Ellie Kemper  25:13

It would be too full. You wouldn’t be able to hang it up. Scott, I also have a great Halloween night plan. That’s why I can’t attend your little Soiree. I’m going to my brother’s house, where all of the cousins will be there. He has a neighborhood that is absolutely primed for trick or treating. It’s flat. Many houses close together, boom, boom, boom. Get your candy. Candy, candy. I am excited to see all these little children. I will say this, I’m coming from New York. I want to tell you that for the past few years I’ve been celebrating Halloween hardcore in New York, and I do love the block parties. What happens is they block off entire streets at a time. I want to say 88th Street is blocked off. I could be making that up 88th Street on the west side. You go, all the brown stones are just throwing candy out the windows at you. I mean, in a nice way, every all the kids are just out everywhere. It’s crowded, it’s a little chaotic. It’s fun. It’s all basically over by 630 or seven, everyone goes home and has their cheapest pizza available. It’s just, it’s so much fun, and it’s early, and I love it, and I’ll miss it. But this is also going to be fun, because the point is, you want to see children out trick or treating, dressing up and ending it while it’s still somewhat light outside, it’s it’s just delightful. Scott, what do you think? And we have to bring this up, because everybody’s wondering, the big kids come out. They come out to play. About 8pm just as all the houses are turning off their doorstep, lights closing up shop, the big kids emerge. And I’m talking about this 1516, 1417, went out of order there because I wasn’t sure how old it goes, but I would say I’ve seen 17 year olds trick or treating. What’s, I’m sorry to introduce it, you know, a divisive topic, but what’s your take on the big kids dressing up? I think you can tell where I stand.

 

Scott Eckert  27:11

Huge into it. Let them have their fun. Let them have their fun, let them make their mischief, as long as no one gets hurt. I’m all for it. I said this in the phases of Halloween, you know, you did, there’s a lull, potentially, where you’re too old to go and dress up, and you kind of feel but you’re, of course, too young to, you know, go to a horribly drunken frat party or whatever. And that’s, that’s a sad lull, and the way to get through it is to make some mischief. You’re against it. Ellie, you never made any mischief.

 

Ellie Kemper  27:47

I mean, I’m oh, believe me, I made mischief. Made zero mischief, but I do there’s so as you know what, when I was a kid growing up, I don’t know at what age I stopped dressing up and went and going trick or treating. But I do know, as a trick as a candy giver, as an adult, I maybe, maybe I’m the Grinch. There’s something I don’t I’ve noticed that it’s the older kids who tend to take more candy than just one or whatever you say. You know, I think it’s common courtesy to take one, unless the giver, that candy giver is saying, like, oh, take two or three. And I will say again, the big kids are the ones who take two or three without asking.

 

Scott Eckert  28:29

And wait now. Ellie, now we’re now we found maybe a different arena of disagreement. It this the way you’re talking about it makes it seem like you’re one of the people who just holds the bowl out, or, dare I say it, puts the bowl on the on the step, oh, on the step, whereas I am person, oh, and really, my mother, because, you know, an old person’s job is to pass the candy out, is to drop it, you drop it in the pails.

 

Ellie Kemper  28:58

Oh, okay, that’s interesting.

 

Scott Eckert  29:01

I don’t want I don’t want 100 grimy kids paws up in my candy bowl.

 

Ellie Kemper  29:07

I understand that, but they aren’t the wrapper. It’s not the candy themselves. Unless you unwrap it.

 

Scott Eckert  29:15

You don’t unwrap your candy.

 

Ellie Kemper  29:19

I want to prove there are no razor blades.

 

Scott Eckert  29:22

I just pour in a bunch of Eminem’s and Skittles.

 

Ellie Kemper  29:28

Take your guess. Is anybody’s guess Russian roulette? Scott, we’re gonna save that debate for next year. I don’t know how I’m gonna, like contain myself for the next 365 days, but we do have to move on, and so I feel like it’s sort of a cliffhanger to be cliffhanger.

 

Scott Eckert  29:48

All right, fine. I guess we’ll never find out if Ellie drops the candy or she lets the kids pick it themselves. All right, we have a game. I’ve got a game all set and prepped for you, Ellie. It’s called. Called Love is really blind. So stick around and Ellie’s gonna play Love Is Really Blind, Halloween edition.

 

Scott Eckert  30:19

And we’re back, Ellie. This is a new game. It’s a it’s a brand new game. It’s the first time listeners are hearing this game. It’s called Love is blind. Actually, it’s called Love is really blind because, you know, we don’t want to infringe on a copyright. That’s a real show. The way it works is that Ellie is going to give her rankings of something top five, but she’s not gonna know the items that she’s ranking. She’s gonna have to rank them as we go. So it’ll make sense as as as we play the game. Ellie, I’m gonna give you two options. You can either rank your favorite Halloween candies or your favorite Halloween songs. Which would you prefer?

 

Ellie Kemper  31:04

No brainer for me, candies.

 

Scott Eckert  31:06

Candies, all right, here we go, one to five. Your all time faves. Almond Joy.

 

Ellie Kemper  31:17

Okay?,Almond Joy, Almond Joy. And I know that there are more to come.

 

Scott Eckert  31:23

Where does it fit on the list of five? First of all, do you like them or not?

 

Ellie Kemper  31:28

I do like them. That’s the problem. If I knew I didn’t, but it’s obviously not my favorite. That’d be psychotic if someone’s like, Oh, my favorite candy is Almond Joy.

 

Scott Eckert  31:36

My sisters, my sisters and my and my children’s least favorite candy is Almond Joy. That’s why I put it on this list.

 

Ellie Kemper  31:43

I know that does not surprise me. In the least, I would say, if you had said mounds, which is Almond Joy, without the nuts, that would have been five. I like Almond Joy. I don’t hate them. I’m just wondering if there’s something I don’t like more.

 

Scott Eckert  31:57

So mounds is the same as Almond Joy, it just doesn’t have almonds, and it would be definitely bottom basement for you, but the almonds are so good, it pushes it up.

 

Ellie Kemper  32:07

That’s exactly right. And now I’m beginning to wonder if mounds is on the list. Okay, I might regret this, but I’m gonna put Almond Joy for

 

Scott Eckert  32:15

All right, number four, Almond Joy, next up, Ellie Candycorn.

 

Ellie Kemper  32:22

I love candy corn. And if we’re talking specifically about Halloween candy, if it’s, is this Halloween candy or candy?

 

Scott Eckert  32:30

I mean, this is, this is can’t trick or treat Candy, candy, you’d get wild trick or treating. I mean, yeah.

 

Ellie Kemper  32:35

Because if you were to ask me in the spring about candy corn, it would be sort of like ketchup and peanut butter. Those don’t go together. Candy Corn.

 

Scott Eckert  32:43

Someone gave, if someone gave you some candy corn for Easter, the Easter Bunny left an egg with candy corn, you’d be pretty irritated, I think.

 

Ellie Kemper  32:51

Unless it were pastel color, then I could say, okay, maybe. But if it were a candy corn, pumpkin or the classic candy corn, white, orange, yellow, I think I’m gonna put candy corn for Halloween. Candy Corn as Halloween candy is number one. Number one. That’s how much I love it how it’s iconic. If you haven’t noticed, I’m into iconic things.

 

Scott Eckert  33:10

It’s true. All right. Next up, Ellie, Pop Rocks.

 

Ellie Kemper  33:14

Oh, I am so happy. Oh, Ellie, you did it again. I am so happy. I put I left that five slot free.

 

Scott Eckert  33:23

You don’t like a tongue explosion.

 

Ellie Kemper  33:25

I despise a tongue explosion. I don’t like it’s playing tricks on me. Candy isn’t supposed to do that. It’s not supposed to hurt me going down. And I also don’t like sugary sweet. I guess I love candy corn. I don’t like that. I don’t like that. Kind of five Pop Rocks is number five, rotten hell. I’m to take it there. I know this is an optimistic podcast, but I don’t like Pop Rocks.

 

Scott Eckert  33:55

All right, next up, second to last, pretzels, like those bags of pretzels that you get, like, you know, it’s like a little bag of Halloween pretzels.

 

Ellie Kemper  34:06

Scott, that you’re lucky that you’re playing with such an easy going player, because that’s, I mean, no one. I mean, we’re gonna have call. The phone is gonna be ringing off the hook. Pretzels is clearly not a candy, but I’m glad you said that it’s under the Halloween umbrella, because I know exactly what you mean. Some health nuts. Hand out pretzels to counter the sweetness. And I love pretzels.

 

Scott Eckert  34:29

So you’ve only got two slots left you’re in, so you’ve got so it’s either second or third. So where’s it gonna go Pretzels?

 

Ellie Kemper  34:35

Well, it’s hard because it’s not really a candy, but I love it, so I’m gonna put number three. Oh, please, let number two be something I like.

 

Scott Eckert  34:41

All right, this is the moment of truth. It’s either gonna make or break your whole list. Starburst.

 

Ellie Kemper  34:52

The silence that you’re hearing is deafening. I wish Starburst were number four. Oh, I don’t like Starburst. I’m so upset. Uh, well, I’m not choosing to, and I won’t go on record saying it’s two. I’ll go, I’ll go to my grave. Just it was, it slid into two. And I’m not.

 

Scott Eckert  35:15

You’re not a starburst fan. Starburst might be my favorite.

 

Ellie Kemper  35:18

I know it is Scott. It’s yet another reason you and I are so different and yet so compatible. Number two is Starburst. I don’t here’s the deal. I know that I mentioned candy corns. Number one, that’s the only like non chocolatey candy that I really like. Okay, so all the candy that is Twizzlers, Starburst Skittles, I don’t like it. So Starburst.

 

Scott Eckert  35:42

After your lame Halloween party with your family, you can collect all the starburst and after my awesome party with my giant pinata, I’ll collect all the Almond Joys, and then we’ll swap. How’s that sound?

 

Ellie Kemper  35:56

That sounds fine.

 

Scott Eckert  35:58

So your final, your final, definitive list. Ellie’s favorite Halloween candy is candy corn, then Starburst, then pretzels, Almond Joy and bringing up the rear, Pop Rocks.

 

Ellie Kemper  36:10

Dude, I’m glad. Hey, I’ll cling close to Pop Rocks being in last place, because that’s a decision I’ll never regret. Good job, Ellie, I still won the game. I did.

 

Scott Eckert  36:21

I well, you’re always a winner whenever we play. Love is really blind called really for copyright reasons. Well, that was a fun Halloween episode. Ellie, I think we covered all of our bases, except, of course, how you handle or how you hand out your candy, which is going to be our Halloween cliffhanger. We’ll revisit it next year. Any final Halloween thoughts before we end our Halloween episode?

 

Ellie Kemper  36:44

I just want to remind the kids to be safe out there. Keep your parents in sight. Big kids, please be polite when you’re however you’re getting your candy. And guys, stay spooky, right?

 

Scott Eckert  36:55

Stay spooky always. Is there anything else that you’re looking forward to next week? Kelly, I’m looking forward to something that’s not Halloween related. I just want to mention, tell me what it is, the World Series Yankees Dodgers, by the time this episode drops, the first couple games will be played. So you know more about it than I do, but I couldn’t be more excited. I am a Yankee fan for my entire adulthood, and now I live in LA and everyone I know is a Dodgers fan, so it’s a dream matchup for me. Go yanks.

 

Ellie Kemper  37:29

Scott I mean that when you’re talking about iconic that definitely is in the iconic category. And as you know, I love iconic things, so I am, sort of by proxy, looking forward to it, even though I don’t follow baseball, so I’m that’s great. I’m so excited for that, for you.

 

Scott Eckert  37:46

So Ellie, is there anything you’re looking forward to this week?

 

Ellie Kemper  37:50

There is something Scott, a priest, a friend of mine. He’s a wonderful, wonderful man. He has baptized both of my boys. Shout out. He is retiring this week, Thursday or this year, and there’s a huge party for him in St Louis this week. I can’t be there in person, but I’m gonna zoom in. He’s just a friend to everyone. I love him. That’s what I’m looking forward to. Scott guys, thank you so much for joining us for another episode of Born to Love. If you want to find me, I’m @Ellie Kemper on Instagram.

 

Scott Eckert  38:21

And I am @mescotteckert on Twitter. Another thing that we love is feedback. So if you’ve got suggestions for the show, leave us a five star review or send us an email at our brand new email address, borntolovefeedback@gmail.com.

 

Ellie Kemper  38:36

There’s more Born To Love with Lemonada Premium subscribers get exclusive access to bonus content where we flip the script and we talk about something we don’t love. This week, Scott gripes about haircuts. That’s right, you’ll get to hear us complain, but only if you subscribe in  Apple podcast.

 

CREDITS  38:55

Born to Love is a production of Lemonada Media our producers are Kegan Zema and Aria Bracci.  Our engineers are Ivan Karaev and James Sparber. Our SVP of weekly production is Steve Nelson and our cover art photography is by Tony Russo. Executive Producers are Jessica Cordova Kramer, Stephanie Wittels Wachs, Ellie Kemper and Scott Eckert follow Born To Love wherever you get your podcasts  or listen ad free on Amazon music with your Prime membership. We’ll be back next week with more Born to Love. But before we go, in the words of Jack Skellington from the nightmare before Christmas, I am the pumpkin king.