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We believe everyone has a right to feel good, especially in these times. Mama Sue Taylor built a whole business off this belief. At 77 years old, Mama Sue is thriving and running a successful cannabis business helping elders take their life back. But she wasn’t always so weed positive. She tells X how she went from being a retired Catholic school principal to being the first Black woman in the Bay Area to open a dispensary. In a truly intergenerational conversation, they discuss the importance of being able to change your mind as you age, and why our grandparents need “trusted messengers.” Mama Sue also talks about getting her business off the ground, despite the barriers she faced.

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Transcript

SPEAKERS

X Mayo, Sue Taylor

X Mayo  00:02

Welcome to The Dough, a podcast that won’t get you high but will make you feel better. We’re here for your aches pains and money strain, baby. Y’all know, I don’t smoke weed and I no longer eat edibles, which was my way of self medicating for fibroids and endometriosis, but the business of weed, well, you know, that’s a tale as old as time. It’s a story of stigma and over regulation, and it’s also a story where some people are disproportionately punished and harmed. According to the ACLU, black people are 3.6 times more likely than white people to be arrested for marijuana possession, and that’s true even though white people use marijuana at similar rates as black people. Well, our guest today is changing that story in more ways than one. Sue Taylor, ladies and gentlemen, or mama Sue, as she’s known by her son’s friends, is a retired Catholic school principal turned cannabis advocate in 2020 she became the first black woman to open a dispensary in Berkeley. Today, she’s known as mama Sue by more than just her son’s friends, though you might even call her the Mother Teresa of cannabis. She sells CBD tinctures for pain relief and better sleep through her business, Mama Sue wellness. And I’d say this isn’t your grandma’s cannabis, but guess what? It is. Her mission is to close the generational gap in cannabis and eliminate the stigma surrounding it. She’s helping our elders find pain relief and get their lives back. Mama Sue Taylor, welcome to The Dough.

 

Sue Taylor  02:50

Thank you for having me here. It is my absolute pleasure to be here and meet all of you.

 

X Mayo  02:56

Okay, so let’s eat into it. I’m so excited to talk to you, because you and I come from two different generations, I’m millennial and you are, would you be Boomer? Are you Boomer? Baby Boomer?

 

Sue Taylor  03:06

I am definitely a wise baby boomer.

 

X Mayo  03:10

Wow, a wise baby boomer. Yes, I am a millennial, and I love that. We both kind of had some of the same thoughts, you know about weed, and we’re gonna get into it. So before we do that, I have a little icebreaker question. So I know wellness is a core part of your mission. What is something that you do every day for yourself that keeps you healthy and happy?

 

Sue Taylor  03:33

I do a gratitude journal, usually at five every morning. I begin this process. After the gratitude journal, I meditate until I get grounded, and then I go and exercise my body, and I eat right most of the time, not all the time.

 

X Mayo  03:51

Oh yeah, because baby, you can’t tell me. I can never go on no mac and cheese, exactly. That’s what’s not gonna happen.

 

Sue Taylor  03:57

Yeah.

 

X Mayo  03:57

So for people that don’t know you, you are known by people and by your supporters. As mama Sue and your story is incredible. You know, from Catholic school principal in Atlanta to owning your own cannabis company in Berkeley, it’s just amazing to have that shift to turn around. And I identify with you as a woman that is independent, and I love having my own and I see myself at having 77 years being blessed. I pray that I get to that number. So before I get into it, I first want to know, what were you taught about cannabis growing up? Because for me, I remember hearing like, you do we? You thug, you know you do weed. That’s for people who don’t care about themselves. They just get high. They just sit there, they eat. They’re lazy, you know? And I was literally judging other people for it, until I got to the point where my fibroids and endometriosis was so unmanageable and it was undiagnosed at the time that I. Was finding myself taking edibles, and I found a way to do it within a certain milligram, to target my pain and back pain. And they had topical oils. You know, I’m from LA, so it was just child, you could put it in anything, okay, this is shampoo, okay, you know, you can just, you can figure it out. They put it in butter, whatever. So I was figuring out my way. So I’m curious to know, what were you taught about cannabis growing up?

 

Sue Taylor  05:23

I saw cannabis like crack or heroin. That’s that was. That’s my generation. You don’t touch it for no reason. You were like ghetto or every bad connotation you could think of associated with it. It definitely wasn’t anything I would share.

 

X Mayo  05:45

Yeah, it was like, a secret for sure. It was like, Yeah, you know, Sue, you know, she, do we? But it I now that you say, I do think I looked at people like that, like, you are a drug addict.

 

Sue Taylor  05:55

You’re a drug addict. They used to call me when I was in high school, in early days of COVID. Oh, there goes Goodie Two Shoes. Sue. You know, they call me that because I didn’t touch anything like that. I never went with one. I had eight brothers and a mom and a daddy who watched me like a hawk, but I never would have done it because of the stigma when my son and my daughter in law came to me with the idea, I said, No, I’m a black woman. I’ve been discrediting against all my life. I don’t need another thing to to be thrown at me. I don’t want to be embarrassed again, to be who I am. You know, I’m already black. They discriminated against me for that, and a woman, oh, and a woman, and don’t be smart.

 

X Mayo  06:45

Oh, okay, that’s a lethal combination that you got Father Son and Holy Ghost, a black, smart woman. Oh, god, oh, Lord, the FBI said, Get a publicity number one, I can’t. They don’t want to. They don’t. They can’t take it. Mama Sue, so before you retired, you were a Catholic school principal in Oakland, and as you told me, You was scared weed. You know, you was terrified of it. And then what started you on your journey to the cannabis advocate, where you are today. Where did that start?

 

Sue Taylor  07:17

I was living in Atlanta at the time, when I get the call from my son and my daughter in law saying that they wanted to open up cannabis dispensary now think about this is like 17, just about 17 years ago. It was only medical then, so the stigma it wouldn’t lose like it is now, there were big barriers to getting through the door to make that happen. And so when, when they call me, I said, Okay, a cannabis dismissed. Okay. I said, all right. I said, where you, where you getting this from? He’s having going to school. I’ve been learning about I thought the boy was on drugs, hardcore drugs. I said, Okay. And I hung up the phone and I flew home because I said, I haven’t lost him the drugs all these years. I’m definitely not going to lose him now. I flew home from Atlanta to save him from drugs, from drugs. The boy wasn’t even smoking drugs, and he was, he was at oakster Dam, doing a business venture, because he heard that it was very lucrative, and he linked me into it, because I’ve always wanted a spiritual center. He says I knew how you could have your spiritual center. And he went, you know, all that acupuncture, woo, woo stuff you’d be doing. I said, Yeah. He said a cannabis dispensary could fund it for free, because it’s a non profit. So he drew my attention. X, he drew my attention. Then I became interested. I said I could have a Wellness Center to help people know who they are, how healthy and who they came on this earth to be. All that. He said, Yes, Ma. So I said, okay, that was the only reason X, I did it because I know that was my calling, my inner calling. I wanted them just to feel good, especially seniors, because we’re the Forgotten Ones. Cannabis plays a big part in that next because all the pharmaceutical drugs that they’re taking to manage their health robs them of their brain and their thinking and their functions and all of that, and cannabis can help eliminate some of those pills, and they could achieve the same relief, if not better, in a healthier way.

 

X Mayo  09:33

Before I go into my next question, Mama Sue, I just want to commend you for staying open.

 

Sue Taylor  09:38

Thank you.

 

X Mayo  09:39

You know for you to say this was about 17 years ago. That means you were 60, and for you to have 60 years on this earth and still be open to your child, because there is a issue amongst parents, I would say generationally. I don’t think it’s just baby boomers or Gen X. And older, but some parents can unfortunately conflate their identity with their children and just be like, Okay, you have to do this. Because I said, and that’s a reflection of me, but you had kind of a resistance and a bit of an aversion to weed and what your son was doing, but still had the ability to stay open and to learn from your child. I think sometimes what the disconnect happens is the people of your generation can’t believe where we’ve gotten in our lives and have gotten so quickly. So it’s like, how can you tell me about insert industry when you’re this young? Because it took me so long to get to where you are, as CEO, as CFO, as entrepreneur, as financially free. So I just want to commend you for being open, for being honest and being willing to change. And so my next question is, while you were teaching seniors about medical cannabis, because then you started your wellness company, and as you spoke about like, we can, you know, help and assist and be a tool for some of these challenges that elders are facing within their bodies and illnesses and certain things like that. What did they tell you were their biggest concerns, and what were their questions when you were talking to them about this?

 

Sue Taylor  11:18

When I first got started in industry, was that they were big stiglers, is that it was federally illegal. Think back to your grandparents and aunties, and we don’t break rules. We go by the books, and they told us it was wrong, so we don’t have it, even though it was medical and legal in the state of California, people still did it on the under I don’t mean selling, I mean going into the dispensaries and things, or they were using it and wouldn’t tell us. So yes, even when I first started in the industry, Steven D’Angelo, one of the big pillars of the cannabis industry, he asked me we were doing a business venture that didn’t work out. So he says, Sue, I want you to come work for me. Seniors need our help X, that was all that man told me, and I went to work at it, and I saw the need. I never told him I work with medical cannabis and seniors. I wouldn’t tell him that because I was still afraid of it. I said, oh, I’m a Commissioner on aging for the county. I give them something. Oh, I’m a former Catholic school principal. I remember when we were trying to get the permit in Berkeley, there were a lot of big players trying to get that permit right. It was one permit and 12 applicants. And I was at the city council meeting, and this guy came up to me at the end of a meeting, and he had dreads on and and stuff, and he said, Hey, you’re the weed lady. We lady, I said, No, I’m not the weed lady, I’m not the weed no, no. But sometimes he said, Ma, I’m sorry, Mama, you’re the weed lady, Ma. I said, no, I don’t want to be.

 

X Mayo  14:13

Mamy Sue, so, for the company, did you use your retirement money? Did you have investors? Like, how did, how were you able to financially start that dispensary?

 

Sue Taylor  14:37

All my family’s money, my family gave me money.

 

X Mayo  14:41

Okay.

 

Sue Taylor  14:42

We weren’t part of the equity program. We weren’t part of how they say, Join here and team up with these, these, great, yeah. My family believed in me. X, because we were, we were like, upper middle class, you know? And they knew, they knew I’m Sue. You know what it is, I was the best messenger. I’m honest, and they knew it. And they say, oh, Lord, hey, you guys ain’t Sue selling weed. Ain’t Sue not selling weed. That’s how the kids would say it. Right? It’s those kinds of comments that would make me jump back, you know, because of the weed connotations.

 

X Mayo  15:23

I was just about to say, was it that tussling that you were doing from the stigma of times past versus the new information and liberation that you were walking into, those two things were like tussling against each other?

 

Sue Taylor  15:37

Yeah, you got it. Because, look, this is what it is, and this is a life lesson. You have to go through uncomfortable situations to ever be healthy, wealthy, rich, whatever. You have to know how to deal with the uncomfortableness. I was dealing with that uncomfortableness till I figured it out. I have affirmation. I’m eager to learn, and I’m willing to change.

 

X Mayo  16:00

Say that again?

 

Sue Taylor  16:01

I’m eager to learn and I’m willing to change.

 

X Mayo  16:04

Wow, I’m eager to learn that’s loaded.

 

Sue Taylor  16:08

And willing to change.

 

X Mayo  16:09

And willing to change.

 

Sue Taylor  16:11

Most people are not. Look, if you don’t change, you die. I’m 77 years old. My life didn’t begin till I was in my 50s. My 60s was awesome, and our 70s is off the chain.

 

X Mayo  16:24

I know that’s right, Mama Sue I love you so much. I feel like I’m looking in the mirror. Okay, you have 77 years, and this is amazing. And I I so love our elders, and I have been thinking about them so much, thinking about you all, even as I see my mother age, I think a lot of millennials were all having the same conversation, like you you’re seeing like, you know, elders, even the best of health. It’s like, but there is a slower pace that they’re moving, you know, you see the gray hairs come in. You just like, whoa, what? What the hell is going on? You know? It’s just like, wait, but you still have value. And you just see, like, only youth is, like, supported and promoted. Everybody’s chasing youth and skincare creams, and what can I do and dye my hair? And it’s just like, no agent is a luxury, you know? So I just, I love that you said that yes, for me, even having that belief and that support in me, I’m curious to know, were you anxious about taking a financial risk at that point in your life to start the dispensary? I know you have the support, financial and emotional support from your family, but there’s still a huge risk, you know, with a market, although that hadn’t been really tapped in, is it seems like a real big challenge, yes, to get people of the elderly community to change their minds, you know.

 

Sue Taylor  17:43

Oh, you absolutely right. And see also, use my retirement money with, okay, with my family, with my family’s money. And I did that because I’m wealthy, and I’ll always be wealthy, because wealth is not in my bank. My wealth is here. And the money comes into my bank every time I turn around. The universe, money pours into all my accounts. I don’t care how little or how big, but I trust that. You have to trust it. And another thing I wanted to share with you, when you’re talking to like elders about cannabis. You have to have the right messenger. You know how you said earlier, sometimes the elders won’t listen because you’re young. I taught her everything, no, and then we think we know it all, but it’s you guys that get it like this. But if you’re going to talk to an elder, you have to send a trusted messenger, somebody that they trust, like me. I could do it because I care I care about them. I don’t have to know who they are. I just want them to succeed. I don’t care who they are. I don’t care what age they are, but my love is for seniors, because they’re the Forgotten Ones. Just give them a pill. They’re going to be dead anyway. They deserve to live happy. They deserve to feel needed. See when they retire, they feel they have no purpose. I don’t believe in retirement. I think you keep creating to the day you go on the other side.

 

X Mayo  19:14

Oh, absolutely. Oh yes, I worked at TSA. I had people that retired and just came and worked part time, you know, like, they absolutely, I know I’m gonna be one of those people, like, 90 years old. They’re gonna be like, she driving cross country, you know, like.

 

Sue Taylor  19:28

Absolutely, I still drive. I drive everywhere I drive.

 

X Mayo  19:32

Oh, my mother too. Yeah, yeah, my mother too. We can’t get her to sit down for nothing. I said, You know what? Why am I trying to get her to sit down? You better. No, I had to have a conversation with myself, because I genuinely thought sitting down meant better. I thought, Mama, relax that, you know, let me pay for stuff. I thought that meant life would be easier for her, and it’s just like, that’s not a full life. Work gives you value, you know, and the things that she’s passionate about, I. Want her to do. I know there were systemic barriers. I’m assuming you know, as we said, you have the trifecta black, smart woman. I know that there were big systemic barriers that you experienced when starting your dispensary, which is called Farmacy, F, A, R, M, A, C, Y, Berkeley. Can you let me know what were the biggest systemic barriers that you experienced ?

 

Sue Taylor  20:23

Think back, you know, 1517, years ago, right? Cannabis wasn’t on TV and all that. So, so my job, okay, we were going for this cannabis permit. We were dealing against all these, I’m just gonna put it bluntly, rich white boys who was growing it and was collecting the money and putting it under the mattress. You see, they had the money. They had a lot of money. Yeah, we just had my family’s money and my retirement, which wasn’t all that much. People had lobbyists to go talk to the city council, the mayor and the city council, okay, they hired all these Libby for 80, $90,000 why I did it? I said, okay, but I was smart. X, I always dress professionally. I went in a suit and pearls and a briefcase, and I said, I could bring home the money. So I would go, I would go to the mayor’s office. And I said, I want to make an appointment with Mayor. Resume was, I said. And so what do you want to talk to the mayor about? I said, oh, senior issues, students about, about students, because I was a Catholic school principal, right? And so I said that, oh, senior issues, yes. How do you think you think I got my foot in the door if I said we’ll talk about cannabis, I had to be smarter than that.

 

X Mayo  21:46

And strategic. That was that was a good strategy.

 

Sue Taylor  21:49

Yes, and so they say, oh, okay, so I get in, right? I did the same. I did that with every city council member and the mayor. Then after I told them about me being a commission on agent, a former Catholic school principal, and all my other degrees and all the stuff that I had. Then I’d hit them with the I’m here to because I want to apply for that cannabis dispensary license geared to the needs of seniors. But x, I’d already won their heart. I’d already talked to them. They’d already seen the good in me. They’d already seen the love in me. I got a unanimous decision. I beat out all 12 of those rich people, all 12 of those men.

 

X Mayo  22:34

And that’s  how you know, mama, so you came in there with facts and faith. Hello. You came in there ready? You said, I’m not leaving with without this permit period. And I’m so happy that you that you are so not only cannabis for it, but you’re like elderly forward when it comes to the benefits. You know, I’m so interested in getting into that because, you know, if my mother, she’s gonna be 69 on Friday, actually, tomorrow. And, you know, we tried to help her. She had such an aversion to it, you know, she was like that as well. But once I started getting into it, she’s like yourself, like, how you are with your son. She’s like, Miha, what’s that, you know, like? And I was like, Mama, it’s been great for my cramps. I take my edible and I don’t get high, like, I know how much to take. So she was having knee issues, so I gave her some oil, and she lathered her whole self, and she said, I said my mom and my brother was like, yeah, yeah. I came in there, that smell in there, and it was, like, eucalyptus and, like, cannabis and stuff. He was like, I’m and my mama was like, I feel nice. I said, Mama, Mama, you supposed to take $1 for Daisy and put it on your knee. That’s it. So now she’s like, oh Miha. She when I said she slept for nine hours, we were like, Oh Lord, she she got to get up, Mama, get up. So I want to talk about the different like, you know, tinctures and stuff that you have at Mama Sue wellness, because, you know, I might need to get some for my mama.

 

Sue Taylor  24:09

I’m gonna have to get you some, some everyday wellness.

 

X Mayo  24:12

Yes.

 

Sue Taylor  24:13

My products, because I do the tensions under the tongue. They’re also rubbing on my knees, because when my knees, when my knees ache and my back, I just rub that on, yeah, and look, and I want to make a distinction. I read it in the question that you had said, and I want to address it here in America, they think something’s wrong with feeling good. She was feeling good. God dog. I give her more of that because people need to feel good. Yeah, people don’t feel good. They they need to feel good. And when you’re feeling good, you’re more productive. You deserve it. You hear me, yeah, you deserve and some people say, oh no. They just do it recreational. I said, well, tell me how you use. It? Well, I had hard day at work, and I didn’t want to, want to yell at my wife and my kids, so I went in the garage and I hit a couple joint hits. So I said, Baby, that’s like taking a value. You have you ever had a problem taking value? No, I say it’s the same thing, but only healthier for you. Yeah, let him feel good. He go back. He’s he’s nice to his kids. He helps his wife so he thinks it’s recreation. It just makes him feel good. Like your mom, it made her body and her soul feel good. And it’s a natural plant from God.

 

X Mayo  25:33

Yes, no, my mom, did we just want her? She couldn’t do anything else. They was like, we was like, okay, Mama, uh, we were supposed to go to the grocery store, you have other errands to run, so we just wanted her to be mindful. So if you could tell me, like, what, yeah, what?

 

Sue Taylor  25:48

Tell you, you know what you did? You know what? The challenging part about what you did was, when a person hasn’t had any experience with cannabis, you have to have the lowest amount or to throw them over. And then, luckily, she had the good experience, because if it been a bad one, she wouldn’t have touched it again. So you have to be mindful when you give them something for the first time, you start low and slow, and then you wait a couple hours to see the effects that you need a little more, a little less.

 

X Mayo  26:17

Yeah, I messed around and gave her the whole bottle, you know? I should have gave her just a little vial. I was like, Mama, here’s the oil, here’s the bottle. And she said, Oh, like, it was baby oil. And like, we have dry skin, so we lather it, we lather it, you know. So she just had it all over her whole body. But if I was 60, and let’s say I’m coming to you, I’m walking to mama Sue’s pharmacy dispensary, and I’m like, you know, I’m scared of cannabis. What would you tell me?

 

Sue Taylor  26:47

Well, if you’re scared of it, you’re going to have to change your mindset about it, because anything you’re scared of don’t work in your body. You have to have some kind of agreeance to it, because, see, your cells are smart, your mind, body in your heart, they’re all smart, but you have to have the mindset that it will work if you don’t do it that way, then they think they’re doing something wrong. You gotta help them see the benefits of it. Let them see reputable people like show me with Doctor Cindy Gupta interviewing me. You know that that changed a lot of people’s mind about cannabis and seniors, because when they came and interviewed me, it changed so many people because he was a doctor and and I was a Catholic school principal in my pearls, in A blue suit. And I care, I honestly care.

 

X Mayo  28:29

Are there any other representatives of the positive effects with cannabis and elders that you know, that other people like myself can send to our parents or even the elders listening can engage with to kind of give them a more nuanced layer perspective on cannabis.

 

Sue Taylor  29:11

Glass House brands was, which is my company that I partnered with. We have webinars free of charge. We do free educational where they could just click on it, and they can learn anything they want about cannabis and and I’m on there too. They can listen to me, and it helps to eliminate that stigma.

 

X Mayo  29:29

And, um, what are because we didn’t get to get into what are some of the products you have at Mame Sue wellness that you recommend for people to try, like, what is the type of tincture or the type of product, and what is the benefit.

 

Sue Taylor  29:42

I have three products. One is relief. I wish I’d have, I have, I have relief here. And then there’s everyday wellness, and then there’s sleep. And when people ask me, too, I want to get in the cannabis industry. Where should I invest the money in seniors? Because. Because we’re the largest demographic, we have more ailments develop something that’s not there. Senior men that don’t mind smoking, the women don’t. Tenures are the best way, because it just drops under the tongue and it’s quick acting 15 seconds before you swallow it. If you swallowed it, it becomes part of the digestive system. But the everyday wellness is my newest product, 15 to one. It has CBD, CBG and CBC, one milligram of THC, because it harmonized the body for balance. You see, you can’t separate that plan. You have to have some THC to that work synergistically, if that makes sense. And then there’s relief, extra strength. Relief is for pain. You just attention, all, all of these attentions, but also rub them on my body and my feet.

 

X Mayo  30:54

Oh, so they can be dual function?

 

Sue Taylor  30:56

Yes, they are.

 

X Mayo  30:57

Got it.

 

Sue Taylor  30:58

Because I’ve tried, I tried it one day, just by accident. I said, oh, this works. So girl.

 

X Mayo  31:06

Damn, I’m good, yeah. And so, okay, so we have that. We have relief, everyday wellness, and we have sleep. Can these be purchased online?

 

Sue Taylor  31:16

No, they cannot be purchased online. You have to go to one of our pharmacy dispensaries or index seed dispensaries.

 

X Mayo  31:23

Before I let you go, I would love to just commend you, Mama Sue. I think I gave you your flowers for being open, but I want to say something that you said up top that I really just want to highlight, I will say you were able to get support from your family, and I think you said something that was so important to me. You said because they knew I was honest and I was truthful. So I think seeing you now, having being blessed to be on this earth 77 years, I think it’s kind of demystified the fact of like, oh, when I get to this age, I’ll be good, like I will not need as much support, or, you know, financially, I’ll be secure enough. So I just want to show and tell the people for Mama Sue to get that level of support that she did at 77 like community is currency, and it is the greatest asset that I feel we can have. And I talk about community so much on this podcast, because it means a lot to me and to see you now, at 77 being like, I’m going to start this business. I’m going to do that. The only reason people rally around you is because at some point you were there for them. It’s an even exchange, you know, like you were a trusted source. And belief in yourself is so important and it can last you clearly we see with Mama Sue Exhibit A through Z can last you a lifetime. So I just want to commend your family. I love them so much for sending 10 toes down with you for knowing that you have value as an elder and I we can see the effects of support, you have been able to start a whole business that has been able to change the minds and lives of, as you mentioned, the largest demographic we have here in the US.

 

Sue Taylor  33:09

Yes, thank you so much. Thank you for that. I really love and appreciate it. And I also want to just also say I didn’t do it alone, you know, yeah, and partnered up with a larger company, glass house brands, is because I wanted to do more. You see, I took it to where, where we could, could take it, right? So I was smart enough. We were smart enough to team, team up with a larger company that shared our core values, who could get me to this point to even meeting you yes, and here I am in LA period.

 

X Mayo  33:47

And what tips? This is my last question before we head out. What tips do you have for people who are coming out of retirement and want to try something new, like, you know, maybe want to start a cannabis business, just like you?

 

Sue Taylor  33:59

People who who retire, should really think of suggestion to really think about what is it that they’ve always wanted to do and never had the time to do it, and that they’re good at it. They take it for granted because it comes so easily for them, but for a person like me, you and everybody. We can’t do it. That’s where they make their money, that thing that comes easily to them, where it’s painting, talking, I don’t care what it is they know. Find out what it is that you’ve always wanted to do in your heart and never had the time or the money to do it in the universe will support you every time, and you will soar to be happy, joyous and free. And you can drop it like it’s hot.

 

X Mayo  34:48

Oh, I was going to say on that on the and on that note, but we have to end on that note. Drop it like it’s hot. Yes, Mama Sue, it was an honor and a privilege to speak to you, to take into your wisdom. And I don’t believe in Old and young. I believe in having the amount of years that you have. But there is a scripture in the Bible that said they call you old because you’re wise, you know. And so I would, I would encourage everyone, the elders that you meet, just know they’re doing their best. They still have dreams. They have goals. They are they have value, you know. And so mama Sue, I just want to thank you so much for leading the charge. And I think a lot of things that you said are applicable to anybody of any age, of any demographic.

 

Sue Taylor  35:32

You’re a smart woman. Thank you so much. It’s been my absolute pleasure to do this.

 

X Mayo  35:41

As I always say, aging is a blessing, but to know exactly who you are and what you want at 77 now that’s a miracle. I cannot wait to be just like, Mama Sue, child I call up the mayor and city council and just be like, listen, we need a pizza truffle Dispensary for any person with a uterus. Listen, if, if I’m going through paying seven to 10 business days after month, I deserve some truffles and pizza, okay? And I love Mama Sue’s mission so much. We cannot be out here neglecting our elders. Not only do they deserve to feel good, they deserve the chance to learn and grow. Our responsibility as younger folks is to find the trusted messengers like Mama Sue, who can deliver that message to them. I hope Mama Sue can tell my mama that we need to go easy on that THC oil, okay, but listen, if she wants to take her nine hour nap, I’ll tell my brother, open up Instacart and get us some milk and eggs. Okay, because it’s gonna be a while, you might get some cool it in there too. You know, need some sweet. The Dough is a Lemonada original. I’m your host X Mayo.  This series was created in partnership with Flourish Ventures.  This series is presented by the Margaret Casey Foundation. Our producers are Tiffany Bui, and Dani Matias. Kristen Lepore is our senior producer.  Mix and Sound Design by Bobby Woody. Original Music by Pat Mesiti Miller. Jackie Danziger is our Vice President of narrative content.  Executive Producers include me X Mayo, Stephanie Wittels Wachs and Jessica Cordova Kramer.  Help others find our show by leaving us a rating and writing a review.  You can follow me on IG  @80dollarsandasuitcase and Lemonada @lemonadamedia across all social platforms, follow The Dough wherever you get your podcast or listen ad free on Amazon music with your Prime membership, thanks so much for listening. See you next week, bye.