101. Pilot
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Welcome back to the Jeffersonian! We’ll be recapping each episode of Bones in order, so please join us today for a behind-the-scenes trip back to 2005 and the pilot of Bones. In this episode, Emily spills all the details of the Bones audition process and reveals how she landed the role of Dr. Temperance Brennan. Carla takes us on a highlight reel of the pilot’s sexiest moments (from Angela’s boobs to Brennan’s boobs and everything in between). And Emily shares the secret to her on-screen chemistry with David Boreanaz (Seeley Booth), which is palpable even from the very first episode of the show (we all saw that scene at the gun range).
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Transcript
SPEAKERS
Speaker 3, Emily Deschanel, Carla Gallo
Emily Deschanel 00:00
Hello, is this thing on? All right.
Carla Gallo 00:03
All right.
Emily Deschanel 00:04
Is this it?
Carla Gallo 00:04
We’re doing it. Are you ready?
Emily Deschanel 00:06
I’m ready. No, I’m not, but let’s do it.
Carla Gallo 00:09
Okay, this is exciting.
Emily Deschanel 00:22
I’m Emily Deschanel.
Carla Gallo 00:24
And Carla Gallo.
Emily Deschanel 00:25
And this is Boneheads podcast. So this is he Bones rewatch podcast, where we’re gonna go back watch episodes of the show, to reminisce.
Carla Gallo 00:37
Reminisce.
Emily Deschanel 00:38
Criticize.
Carla Gallo 00:39
Go on tangents.
Emily Deschanel 00:41
Go on so many tangents. I’m sure.
Carla Gallo 00:43
That’s my fave.
Emily Deschanel 00:44
We both have acted on the show. There’s 246, episodes. I did all. I mean, now that sounds like I’m bragging, but I do all of them.
Carla Gallo 00:54
You never missed a one.
Emily Deschanel 00:55
Never missed a one, even they just took it off when I had a baby.
Carla Gallo 00:59
Yeah. That shows how much you were needed.
Emily Deschanel 01:02
Exactly. And Carla was in many
Carla Gallo 01:08
Nine seasons, nine episodes. No, but I will say I meant to look up how many episodes I was in. I thought I had done like 50. Yeah […] it’s like 30 or something. It’s like 35 […]
Emily Deschanel 01:21
It’s 50 rounded up today. It’s basically, I would guess it was 50. So now, 33.
Carla Gallo 01:27
Oh, how brutalize is that […] But I feel like I was there. I mean, I feel like I was there for 100 and I mean that in the nicest possible way. No, I loved being there. I very much loved being there. Oh, I should add. I was Daisy Wick, in case anyone is listening and they’re like, who the hell is Carla Galla?
Emily Deschanel 01:52
Yeah, who played Daisy Wick?
Carla Gallo 01:54
I played Daisy Wick […].
Emily Deschanel 01:56
You came in season four, I believe. Is that right?
Carla Gallo 02:00
Yeah.
Emily Deschanel 02:00
And how would you describe Daisy to anyone who doesn’t know Daisy Wick already?
Carla Gallo 02:06
I would describe Daisy as just an absolutely over eager bundle of energy, rabid fan of Dr. Brennan, a protege if you will.
Emily Deschanel 02:18
Mentee.
Carla Gallo 02:18
Yeah, mentee, stalker, single weight female and a future lover fan sweet.
Emily Deschanel 02:31
I’m Emily, and I played Temperance Brennan on the show.
Carla Gallo 02:34
Anyone who’s tuning in that doesn’t know that you played Temperance Brennan, should probably find a different podcast.
Emily Deschanel 02:44
No, we welcome everyone.
Carla Gallo 02:45
Okay, people who were tuning in because they thought it was a show discussing the bones in the body.
Carla Gallo 02:45
Okay!
Emily Deschanel 02:45
Carla, we want everyone, even people who don’t even know what bones is. We want them to listen Carla, we’re not turning them around.
Emily Deschanel 02:56
Yeah, should still song bones by Imagine Dragons.
Carla Gallo 03:00
Oh right, yeah.
Emily Deschanel 03:04
So we were friends. We’re friends. Should we even mention that maybe I’m friends? We became friends from doing the show.
Carla Gallo 03:11
Yes.
Emily Deschanel 03:12
But it turned out that two of our best friends are also best friends. So, we like to say that our best friends are best friends.
Carla Gallo 03:20
Our friends being best friends caused us to become super close friends, because we all dinner together. We started doing these dinners together, and at our most recent foursome dinner.
Emily Deschanel 03:38
Yes.
Carla Gallo 03:39
I essentially got shushed.
Emily Deschanel 03:42
Yes, you did.
Carla Gallo 03:45
And you know what?
Emily Deschanel 03:46
Not by a member of our table […].
Carla Gallo 03:51
I just want to say that the proof of our friendship, our sisterhood, is that all the ladies came to my defense and kind of gave it back to him. And I was really like, “listen, I was still mortified that I had been shushed, but I really was, and I was discussing. This is a tangent, so I’m gonna do it. I was discussing how Clea and I had a love scene.
Emily Deschanel 04:24
Oh! yeah. […]
Carla Gallo 04:24
And how she was licking my nimple in the love scene. And I got loud about it, because I think I just felt very animated. And I was like […]. Yeah, if he would have just listened in, he would have had a great story […]. He might have really enjoyed the content.
Emily Deschanel 04:44
Yeah, maybe he was very disturbed by a conversation. There’s so many conversations that would be very awkward to come upon on our any of our conversations. In fact, I will say I’m not. I might. Because, I wasn’t the person being shushed though, I recognize that. That my privilege, situation. But the last time we had dinner and the same spot, the another person overheard our conversation.
Carla Gallo 05:13
It was me again. That was me.
Emily Deschanel 05:16
And started really butting into our conversation and knew stuff about what you’re talking about. And that was kind of.
Carla Gallo 05:22
I was talking about the location for platonic. I was talking about the location of the mansion that we shot at. And he was like, I know that house. I was the man, I was location man, I was like, Oh no, I’ve said a lot of other things that I didn’t maybe want to know.
Emily Deschanel 05:37
You’re listening.
Carla Gallo 05:37
Yeah, so I need to pipe it down. Is the point.
Emily Deschanel 05:41
But, I guess that is the point in that we love talking because we are talkers, we love talking to each other. It’s hard for us to get off the phone.
Carla Gallo 05:49
Correct.
Emily Deschanel 05:50
We love to talk, sometimes loudly. Both of us talk loud sometimes.
Carla Gallo 05:55
It’s true.
Emily Deschanel 05:56
We both love to talk. So why not magnify that even more? And kind of project it to the world.
Carla Gallo 06:03
Project it to the world.
Emily Deschanel 06:04
Specifically speaking about bones, which is the thing that brought us together.
Carla Gallo 06:08
100% Nicely put.
Emily Deschanel 06:11
Okay, should we dive in?
Carla Gallo 06:12
Yes.
Emily Deschanel 06:13
Let us dive in to the show, to bones. We will talk about how bones came to be.
Carla Gallo 06:19
Yes.
Emily Deschanel 06:19
We’ll get more of that story as we talk to more people. We’re gonna talk to people. We’re not gonna just watch episodes. We’re gonna have guests on. We’re gonna talk to people who are involved in the show from the beginning at different points, from different perspectives and different jobs. It’ll be really fun. We’ll learn things about the show that we didn’t know because of that, I can talk about what I know from my beginning of the show, what I heard first. So, I got a script called Brennan. It was originally called Brennan. I was asked to have a meeting and an audition. It was not just an audition, but it wasn’t just a meeting either.
Carla Gallo 06:55
Okay.
Emily Deschanel 06:55
I’d rather just audition personally than have like a be an awkward meeting, and then you transition to auditioning, which is what it was, but it was fine. And I met with Hart Hanson, the creator of the show; Greg Gaines, who directed the pilot; and Barry Josephson, an executive producer who was at the meeting. I later found out that Barry was the person who brought me in because he called around to different executives he knew. I had done a Disney movie, a Buena Vista Disney movie called Glory Road, and the executive on that suggested me for this.
Carla Gallo 07:31
Very nice to thank for. That’s what you always worry about: Will it happen?
Emily Deschanel 07:36
Yes, so I did this movie, Glory road, and I was brought in. Then we had a meeting, and I remember Hart Hanson laughing at my jokes that weren’t that funny. I just thought he was very a nice person.
Carla Gallo 07:50
He is a very nice person, but you’re also funny.
Emily Deschanel 07:53
I’m not. I wasn’t that funny. I mean, sometimes I can be a little funny, but I wasn’t that funny. I made some comment about the character was described as strong, and it was somewhat contradictory, maybe, strong and vulnerable in the character description, maybe not even in the script, but in what they send out.
Carla Gallo 08:12
Like in breakdown.
Emily Deschanel 08:13
Breakdown, yeah.
Carla Gallo 08:14
Of the character.
Emily Deschanel 08:15
Yeah. I think I said, “Well, aren’t all characters described like that?” Because they were. I mean, he laughed at me, and I think that was because it was kind of Brennan. I don’t know.
Carla Gallo 08:26
We’ll ask him. You are a little bit like Brennan, and we’re gonna discuss it.
Emily Deschanel 08:31
Yeah. I like that.
Carla Gallo 08:32
You’ve said that to me before.
Emily Deschanel 08:34
I would love to hear how you see that. I think I’ve come to realize more over time that I am more likely than I realized. You know, sure.
Carla Gallo 08:42
Yeah, even watching the pilot, I was like, “it’s just funny to watch”. I mean, knowing you because obviously I met you at work- and at work, you were very much… I’m not like method, like a Daniel Day-Lewis. I’m not saying you’re not a Daniel Day-Lewis. You are a Daniel Day Lewis, quality.
Emily Deschanel 09:06
As you recognize […]
Carla Gallo 09:07
Yeah […]
Emily Deschanel 09:08
Is the same. It’s not better, Carla.
Carla Gallo 09:12
Correct, but I just mean it was not like you stay in characte. On set, you were very business. Obviously, you had so much work to do. You were always super friendly and welcoming, checking in with me. What have you been doing? What have you been up to? But you were, always working, even in your downtime. Literally learning, “Okay, Carla, is it okay if we run lines? And I’d be like, “Oh, yeah, absolutely! You were on it all the time. Watching the pilot, which I do, obviously over time. I think that the character probably also was a little bit you it melded, right? Like you were becoming the character. The character was becoming you.
Emily Deschanel 09:54
Yeah. But even in the pilot, just so much of you, is it?
Carla Gallo 09:58
I mean, obviously you brought yourself to it.
Emily Deschanel 09:59
But, it was very fun for me, of course, since I was cast in that part. A lot of times, especially in television, there’s gonna be qualities of yourself, right? So yeah, it’s interesting. I’m looking forward to watching the episodes and having a perspective on it that I might not have had before, with so much time passing. We call i ‘hate watching’ in my house- watching myself acting, because I don’t know, I don’t like watching myself act. Now, it’s easier for me to watch something so far. I have more compassion for myself with who I was as an actor and what I did, you know?
Carla Gallo 10:39
Yeah.
Emily Deschanel 10:40
So last night, I was knew I had to watch this episode to prepare for today. And I was thinking, if I wait till my kids go down, it’ll be so late. Then I thought, maybe they can watch some of it with me.
Carla Gallo 10:54
I wondered about that. You said you’re gonna do that.
Emily Deschanel 10:56
I think I mentioned it to you.
Carla Gallo 10:58
You did. And I was like, I think it’s okay. I don’t think it’s a gory episode. Then as I watched it, I actually thought about your kids watching.
Emily Deschanel 11:04
They watched about five to 10 minutes of it. I got a phone call, but then I was like, I think there’s a brassiere flashing at the top. There’s discussion of pornography and virginity and things like that. Then the blood just go over their heads.
Carla Gallo 11:22
The body is a little gruesome, I think.
Emily Deschanel 11:25
My seven year old loves. It was just a skeleton, and I said, “What do you think of that?” And he said, “Cool”.
Carla Gallo 11:33
Oh, okay.
Emily Deschanel 11:34
I wanted to know if there’s any guns, and if any guns would be shot.
Carla Gallo 11:39
He is hoping for that? But there were 10 guys.
Emily Deschanel 11:44
And I said, “You’ll just wait and watch them”. The funniest thing to me was that my seven year old. When Michaela came on as Angela, he’s like, “is that you?” And then when he saw me, he’s like, “that’s you”. He didn’t know that was me.
Carla Gallo 12:03
Really? You don’t look that different?
Emily Deschanel 12:05
No, I don’t know […]. I look different a couple of years. It’s been just two years, couple of years, anyway.
Carla Gallo 12:13
Wait, you were talking about the script. You took the meeting, Hart laughed, and then what did you do?
Emily Deschanel 12:19
Right. I did the scene in the car where Booth and Brennan, after he picks her up at the airport, and then walking away when she gets out. When I get out, she gets out, and after that audition, I was told that I was asked to test for the show, which means you go to studio and then network, where you test for the studio executives and the network executives, you sign a contract. And I’m telling you, you know.
Carla Gallo 12:46
I do know this. I’ve done it a very unfortunate number of times, when you compare it to the number of actual jobs I’ve done.
Emily Deschanel 12:53
But that’s the actor’s life.
Carla Gallo 12:54
Yes, it is. But, also it’s a very big deal to be asked to test because sometimes if it’s a lot of people- it’s five people that they’re asking- but for the most part, it usually isn’t. Often it’s three, sometimes it’s even less. But it’s a real thing when you go to test.
Emily Deschanel 13:11
You know, it’s just you and a couple other people.
Emily Deschanel 13:13
But I was asked to test for another show, and was at the same time, and I chose to go to that one.
Carla Gallo 13:13
Yeah.
Carla Gallo 13:19
That is crazy.
Emily Deschanel 13:20
But before I even got to that test, they canceled it.
Carla Gallo 13:23
Thank God.
Emily Deschanel 13:24
I remember what I wore. Wore sweater and jeans.
Carla Gallo 13:28
Nice, casual. Not trying too hard.
Emily Deschanel 13:33
Not trying too hard. But, I looked put together. I made one time of going to an audition with a t-shirt on. That was for a war photographer audition, and then they told me that I was wearing a vintage t-shirt, as if that was like the worst thing in the world.
Carla Gallo 13:50
This is to test you […] Call back.
Emily Deschanel 13:54
Well I made sure I did not wear a vintage t-shirt.
Carla Gallo 14:00
I’m the person who is tragic. The number of things I have ordered from Amazon or gone to Goodwill. I show up in full, they will be like, “Oh, she’s a surgeon” and I’ve got the full. I’m so thirsty, as the kids say. I mean, it’s not what it is, I want to embody that. I want to feel it.
Emily Deschanel 14:24
Yeah, it helps to body the character.
Carla Gallo 14:28
It’s a bit much.
Emily Deschanel 14:29
I think nowadays, we everyone auditions on tape at home. From home or wherever your studio. It’s not like you arrive, when you arrive in an audition room or waiting room, you show up and you’re the only person with fake piercings.
Carla Gallo 14:46
Oh my god […] I haven’t done that.
Emily Deschanel 14:51
I’ve done fake piercings.
Carla Gallo 14:52
You have?
Emily Deschanel 14:53
Yeah. I definitely done fake tattoos. Let’s be honest with people cast, they have no imagination. So if they can’t imagine that you’re the character, you’re not gonna get the […]
Carla Gallo 15:02
Yeah, yeah. That’s true.
Emily Deschanel 15:05
I tested, I was with David Boreanaz, who was already cast, which has booths.
Carla Gallo 15:10
Amazing.
Emily Deschanel 15:12
I don’t know, I was told that I was the only. I got him to stand up and the only person that got him to stand. I can hear from other people about that.
Carla Gallo 15:21
I know, I am curious to hear the other side. How often do you get to hear, “Why did you cast me?” […]
Emily Deschanel 15:28
Why didn’t you cast me? Is when you like to hear. Sometimes you hear.
Carla Gallo 15:34
But, I like the real reason, you know?
Emily Deschanel 15:36
I know. Oh yes, I knew somebody who got fired and they were told, “You’re just too good of an actor. You’re making the other actors look bad”.
Carla Gallo 15:44
Stop.
Emily Deschanel 15:46
Is that the whole story? Maybe it is.
Carla Gallo 15:48
I don’t know, but wonderful. But I would have trouble.
Emily Deschanel 15:51
If someone told me that, I’d be, yes.
Emily Deschanel 15:57
Okay, we’re gonna take a quick ad break and then we’ll dive into the very first episode of Bones ever.
Emily Deschanel 16:22
Should we dive into the episode?
Carla Gallo 16:23
Yes, I think we should. Do you want to do a little synopsis?
Emily Deschanel 16:29
Yeah, a little synopsis: This is the pilot episode of Bones, called “Pilot”- the only one without a fun name. This was written by Hart Hanson, who created the show and was the showrunner for many years, directed by Greg Atanis. It first aired on September 13, 2005.
Carla Gallo 16:51
Long time ago.
Emily Deschanel 16:52
Very long time ago.
Carla Gallo 16:53
Correct.
Emily Deschanel 16:54
Okay, here we go. It opens with Angela, the character played by Michaela Conlin, at the airport waiting to pick Brennan up.
Carla Gallo 17:04
And we see a lot of Michaela or more than we thought […] Of course, those are not her boobs. That’s not her boobs.
Emily Deschanel 17:14
Who hasn’t seen it recently, she flashes her boobs to get information on the flight. The guy does not seem like he would care that much about seeing her boobs.
Carla Gallo 17:25
Offensive.
Emily Deschanel 17:29
Anyone would be excited to see her boobs, I think. What can we talk about the fact that she’s wearing, it’s almost as if she knew she would be flashing her boobs, because, she has some very nice lingerie on. She has bustier.
Carla Gallo 17:47
Yeah. A corset. But I think that’s just what Angela rocks.
Emily Deschanel 17:53
Angela might be always wearing something.
Carla Gallo 17:56
She actually might.
Emily Deschanel 17:57
I think she might. Because in these first few episodes, she is very “Oh, I’m open to anything”. She is a free spirit.
Emily Deschanel 18:08
She’s flashing her boobs to get information on the flight. Brandon is coming back from Guatemala, where she was identifying victims of genocide, skeletal victims.
Carla Gallo 18:19
She has something very odd in her bag.
Emily Deschanel 18:21
Yes, that’s a skull. She’s brought back human remains and she gets stopped by Homeland Security. There’s the whole fight, then gets brought to an interrogation room. But, then it turns out it was just a setup. It was a setup. Seeley Booth had Homeland Security stop her at the airport so he could get her on his case.
Carla Gallo 18:41
That’s right. Seeley Booth, played by the one and only David Boreanaz.
Emily Deschanel 18:45
The one and only.
Carla Gallo 18:46
Can I just first say how much I enjoyed the episode.
Emily Deschanel 18:49
Oh yeah.
Carla Gallo 18:50
I really did. It’s such a cohesive pilot, it really is. I think pilots are incredibly challenging because you are establishing so much information, so many characters. What is the relationship here? Right off the bat. You say something about your trip and something that it’s about having a breakup and going away or maybe she says, “this isn’t the solution for having a breakup”. Until all of a sudden, I’m like “Oh, I’m learning right away, all this information”. You’ve been to Guatemala; What you do for a living? That you’ve just gone through a breakup, like seeds are being planted. I felt like that happens. It’s hidden a bit in terms of some pilots. It’s really in your face, you’re like mom, dad, when you got divorced when I was 15, it really created some problems. Like you’re like, “No, I hear you”. But this is hidden, you guys have buried the pipe.
Emily Deschanel 19:46
It’s so much that you could miss it.
Carla Gallo 19:48
I did miss it the first time.
Emily Deschanel 19:50
Yeah, it’s just okay to miss it. But I think it gets richer when you watch him more. It did get more things.
Carla Gallo 19:57
It definitely did […] We’re gonna get into this, but like your relationships with each other. This did not feel like you. I would say you and Michaela specifically. You and David like these did not feel like relation as humans. I didn’t feel as if you guys had all just met within that probably month. Your connection with her felt very real and your connection with him felt very real for me. Yeah, I just wanted to say that
Emily Deschanel 20:27
I marveled at this time viewing. The pilot is how quickly we’re introduced to so many of the characters too and you get a full sense of who they are. You mentioned about knowing the breakup in Guatemala, and what she does for a living. You showed the idea of who Angela is, she’s a free spirit and is great.
Carla Gallo 20:48
No.
Emily Deschanel 20:49
Something we might not see in a pilot these daysor maybe it would be more racy. I don’t know it was streaming but I wrote down where you meet each person, and it’s like five minutes and you’ve met. I think maybe Angela, Brennan and Booth. The first three minutes we’ve met three main characters.
Carla Gallo 21:13
That’s actually funny. I made that note as well on the second viewing that I was like, “Wow” again, the kind of seamless introduction to Booth, how quickly that happens. Establishing you guys […] But, there’s a little bit of tension between you guys, but there’s also like him. Because he had them flag you to get pulled at the airport.
Emily Deschanel 21:39
You’re against his character that he does that and her character that she’s annoyed. She beats up the homelands. You really so quickly have an idea, a basic idea, of who the characters in their basic essence are, and then what their relationships are to each other.
Carla Gallo 21:57
Yeah.
Emily Deschanel 21:57
It’s pretty remarkable how Hart Hanson. In such a seamless way you’re not aware that this is introducing characters.
Carla Gallo 22:08
Exactly.
Emily Deschanel 22:09
Jump right in and that is a great talent in itself. We can go through like as it happens, and then I know I have notes in general. But, the airport scene was shot at the Convention Center Downtown Los Angeles, where it looks like an airport.
Carla Gallo 22:26
It really does credit. Greg Guggenmos, I know everyone chooses locations, but I think he’s such a visual. I mean, as he should be, he’s director, but I just mean it’s always lot of shots are very stunning. And I think that shot of the big window in the airport is really beautiful.
Emily Deschanel 22:43
There’s so many shots. He’s so cinematic as a director
Emily Deschanel 22:45
And just great to work with as an actor too. He’s gone on to win Emmys and he’s very successful. We’ll talk to him too. But one thing that stuck out for me this time watching that I don’t think I’d ever thought of, “Why did I bring a skull back from Guatemala?
Carla Gallo 22:45
Yes.
Carla Gallo 22:59
Isn’t that illegal?
Emily Deschanel 23:00
I was identifying victims of genocide and I say, like him, I just have it in a bag,
Carla Gallo 23:08
Not even in […]. I mean, it could have crushed. I would have been scared to carry. Like my daughter, we went to Barbados, and she bought this, tiny coconut that’s hollowed out, and it’s a turtle. And I was so scared to transport this turtle coconut back from Barbados and we had it in a box.I kept it in my carry on, because it’s gonna get crushed.
Emily Deschanel 23:09
Yeah, I’ll put in a carry on […]
Carla Gallo 23:36
It hit the top cut off supposed to be a little keepsake box, I think.
Emily Deschanel 23:45
Have you ever tried to cut those things open?
Carla Gallo 23:47
No.
Emily Deschanel 23:48
You need a mallet and a thing, you can have a spear.
Carla Gallo 23:53
Okay, you know a lot about coconut.
Emily Deschanel 23:55
I did live on a tropical island for a few months as a child, so…
Carla Gallo 23:58
Well, I’m just saying is, you’ve got this skull, which is actually probably more this old skull that is more delicate tha that coconut turtle. Well, I didn’t know.
Emily Deschanel 24:08
Well, coconut might. We’d have to find that out. I think a skull might not an old skull, who knows. So, let’s just say it’s delicate. I wouldn’t want to carry it like that, friends. But get this, Booth picks her up from the airport.
Carla Gallo 24:23
Yeah.
Emily Deschanel 24:24
She gets out of the car. She does not have any other luggage. She just went to Guatemala with that bag with a skull in it.
Carla Gallo 24:31
She left it in his car. She was expecting him to bring her around later.
Emily Deschanel 24:34
Is that?
Carla Gallo 24:35
No, I don’t know.
Emily Deschanel 24:37
She was just so spontaneous. She didn’t care about her bag and she was just, that’s probably what it was. I wonder if there was a discussion about that, but I didn’t even think. I don’t remember.
Emily Deschanel 24:47
Why would you? And presumably, she took the skull with her, I guess.
Carla Gallo 24:47
No, I think she’s like, “Let me out, she’s not thinking about her bag and her no skull that she has just stolen.
Carla Gallo 25:00
Right. Did they let her?
Emily Deschanel 25:00
Yeah, I think so. You also ditched Michaela at the airport.
Carla Gallo 25:04
Oh, that’s another thing. I get taken away by Homeland so maybe she’s like, “I should go”.
Emily Deschanel 25:10
She maybe ditched me honestly, Carla.
Carla Gallo 25:14
I’m not waiting on her. This will take hours.
Emily Deschanel 25:18
My favorite moment is the Homeland security guys says, “Who doesn’t sweat it?”
Carla Gallo 25:24
Yes, sociopath. In the background, it’s so well delivered. I made a note about that too. Very funny.
Emily Deschanel 25:35
She’s awesome.
Carla Gallo 25:35
She’s very funny. Well, let’s jump into the murder.
Emily Deschanel 25:38
Okay, so the murder all right? So, Booth drives Brennan to the crime scene, where we meet Zach Addie, Brennan’s assistant, played by Eric Millegan. They discover a body in a pond at Arlington National Cemetery of an 18 to 22 year old woman.
Carla Gallo 25:56
That’s right. And then they bring her back to the lab, do facial reconstruction with the help of the infamous Angel later, which I always thought was the Angelatron.
Emily Deschanel 26:06
No, that’s what it becomes later on. The angel…
Carla Gallo 26:08
Why?
Emily Deschanel 26:09
They’re two different things because the angel later was a 3d thing that we’ll talk about.
Carla Gallo 26:14
Okay.
Emily Deschanel 26:14
That eventually became a nightmare to film. Okay. I don’t know if you were there for.
Carla Gallo 26:21
I was not. It was the Angelatron.
Emily Deschanel 26:24
Okay. That was two dimensional. It was easier to film. Well, these are some of the gems that you will talk exciting stuff.
Carla Gallo 26:34
So they bring her back, use the angel later and they discover the victim is Cleo Eller, she’s a missing intern. She was rumor to have an affair with the senator, Senator Bethlehem.
Emily Deschanel 26:44
Yes, and she also was dating Ken Thompson as well, who worked with Senator Bethlehem. We dive in and with the help of Angela, Zach and Hodgins.
Carla Gallo 26:48
Yes, that was also just really well done, I thought. You each have a thing to add. Hodgins has been “What the bugs are? Angela’s like, “Okay, great and I’m gonna go reconstruct”. I was like here we are. We’re seeing you all together, how you all work together. And it was just lovely again. I thought it was seeing you all together. And it just, you all clicked. We all really well.
Emily Deschanel 27:23
We are the perfect for solving these crimes too.
Carla Gallo 27:25
Yeah.
Emily Deschanel 27:26
Oh, I made a note of the different things we learn. There’s so many things and things that continue on, like the term squint.
Carla Gallo 27:33
Oh, I know.
Emily Deschanel 27:34
Coins the term squint. You know, people who squint it look at things, kind of his version of nerds, essentially people who look at things to solve crimes.
Emily Deschanel 27:42
I’m a squint. You were a squintern.
Carla Gallo 27:42
I did make a note like, “Oh, that’s the first time we hear that”. Because obviously I was used to being called a squint, but I didn’t realize that you were a squint.
Carla Gallo 27:52
Oh, a squintern, right.
Carla Gallo 27:53
So something we’ve discussed, which I wanted. I think that people would be really interested in. I had thought when the very first time that I watched the pilot that was this a built set, this the lab, and I was telling you, and I was like, “Oh my God, that’s such an expensive like, I cannot believe they built that for a pilot, because pilots often don’t get picked up. That is insane. It must have cost so much money. It is so beautiful”. And you were like, “Let me just stop you. That’s a location that is not a set”. And then it was later built. You blew my mind. I was like, what? I’m sorry. This is a place that really exists. And then they rebuilt it. Because to me, having worked on that set a lot, the lab, the platform, in watching the pilot, I did not see a different. I wasn’t like, “Oh, this isn’t where I worked”. It’s not like, sometimes on shows, I feel like, sometimes I’ll do a thing where they go watch the pilot and it’s actually a different house than the show. There’s a very famous show where you’re like, “Oh, it’s different, because it probably was location and then it got built.
Emily Deschanel 27:53
Yeah.
Carla Gallo 28:58
But all that to say incredible, like beautiful set. Wow, I just couldn’t believe that was a real place.
Emily Deschanel 29:10
Yeah, the lab was a set. I mean, was the location and then it was built. Pronoun cost a lot of money to build that huge set. It was a huge set that took up the entire state, and it’s all practical. Sometimes you do sets, you’ll do a house and it’s not practical, like you walk into a bedroom from another place and it doesn’t matter, because when you’re filming it, you can fudge it all and it makes it look right. But this is all practical, you can walk from my office into the lab, into Angela’s office and do a whole shot that way. So it’s all practical, but it was originally filmed at the California Science Center, one of the buildings there, which is across the Rose Garden from the Natural History Museum. The rose garden. Not to spoil out for people. I haven’t watched all the episodes of bones, but there’s a wedding in that rose garden. So that Rose Garden is the Natural History Museum. The rotunda that we walked around with Dr. Goodman, that’s in the Natural History Museum, almost positive. We walked all the way around it. That’s a Greg, a genius thing, where youcould walk many times around the thing. You’ll never know watching it, but it made no sense, because we walked around the Nintendo and then we walked across it on the bottom floor.
Carla Gallo 30:33
I will say, I know I noticed that. You had told me that about the walking around things. I kind of looked for it.
Emily Deschanel 30:39
Yeah.
Carla Gallo 30:39
And it was kind of funny when you look for it. I was like, “Okay, it does kind of seem like they’re just going in one very large circle” and then when you’re down below it, you cross again, I’m like, “You guys should just take an elevator down.” I’m not sure where you were headed.
Emily Deschanel 30:51
I don’t know what happened.
Carla Gallo 30:52
It looks great. Listen, here’s the point. It looks fantastic.
Carla Gallo 30:55
I know.
Emily Deschanel 30:55
It looks fantastic. And no one knows that until now. We’ve told them the inside scoop.
Emily Deschanel 30:59
See, they ruin it for people. Maybe they don’t want to listen.
Carla Gallo 31:02
It is gems like that. This is why this podcast needed to be made. Okay.
Emily Deschanel 31:07
You’re gonna get.
Carla Gallo 31:08
You’re gonna get.
Emily Deschanel 31:09
The outside scoop gossip.
Carla Gallo 31:11
Yeah?
Emily Deschanel 31:11
Some cold gossip.
Carla Gallo 31:12
Yeah? It’s called very cold, freezing like […]
Emily Deschanel 31:19
Not hot gossip. Oh gosh.
Carla Gallo 31:24
We’ll be back with more boneheads in just a moment.
Emily Deschanel 31:48
Okay, we have so much. I know we have so much to talk about […]
Carla Gallo 31:52
Let’s get into the scene where your ex.
Emily Deschanel 31:56
Oh!
Carla Gallo 31:57
Peter, forcefully breaks into your apartment.
Emily Deschanel 32:02
Yeah. Television, the old TV.
Carla Gallo 32:05
Yeah, maybe just go to best buy and get a new one.
Emily Deschanel 32:07
Brennan’s asleep and she hears noises, she doesn’t know who’s in her apartmentand she grabs a baseball bat. She don’t need it.
Carla Gallo 32:19
She don’t need that […]
Emily Deschanel 32:22
She’s got her move and her feet, her legs.
Carla Gallo 32:26
Yeah.
Emily Deschanel 32:27
But, she grabs a baseball bat just to be safe. Extra. She doesn’t know if there’s other maybe there’s multiple people breaking her apartment. We don’t know this.
Emily Deschanel 32:36
But it’s just her ex, Peter, played by Dominic Fumusa, who was honors, Jackie, who’s great on nurse. Jackie later on that happened after
Carla Gallo 32:36
But there isn’t
Carla Gallo 32:45
Yeah.
Emily Deschanel 32:45
But, he’s very nice guy.
Carla Gallo 32:48
I mean, the note that is jumping at me right now is your boobs […]
Emily Deschanel 32:56
I was gonna be my walk.
Carla Gallo 32:57
No, I’m talking about the I’m interested in your boobs.
Emily Deschanel 33:00
Michaela’s boobs.
Carla Gallo 33:01
Oh, there’s Michaela boobs.
Emily Deschanel 33:02
There’s boobs.
Carla Gallo 33:03
But, it’s funny because, obviously your boob presence is obviously a choice. Okay, it was a choice. But unlike the Angela boob thing, which was, like, supposed to be kind of maybe a little shocking, like flashing…
Emily Deschanel 33:19
And intentional.
Carla Gallo 33:20
Intentional. Yours just existed in all their glory and beauty […].
Emily Deschanel 33:28
There was enhancement in that.
Carla Gallo 33:30
What do you mean?
Emily Deschanel 33:31
Very supportive […].
Carla Gallo 33:33
There was something that I know, like, not that I know.
Emily Deschanel 33:37
But the supportive bra makes a big difference. Makes a difference.
Carla Gallo 33:41
But you have something to support. And I really appreciated it. In the end, I’m talking about the scene with your boyfriend. He wakes you up. You are sleeping in that correct?
Emily Deschanel 33:51
Yes he was […] Was, am I sleeping in the day? Because it was up all night putting the skull back together.
Carla Gallo 34:01
I don’t know.
Emily Deschanel 34:01
We have to talk about the montage, too, but I was up only putting the skull back together and then I go home to sleep in the daytime or maybe it was nighttime, but he breaks into or he lets himself back into an apartment.
Carla Gallo 34:10
Yeah.
Emily Deschanel 34:11
Presumably we shared
Carla Gallo 34:12
Probably.
Emily Deschanel 34:13
But yes, I remember asking them, “Is this like boobalicious?” Or I don’t I think I said this is like Pamela Anderson. And they’re like, no.
Carla Gallo 34:20
The answer is yes.
Emily Deschanel 34:21
They literally says no. And I don’t know if they meant that particular shot they might have meant that just that particular shot, just on my face. Conveniently, I happened to ask the question, like, no, it’s just on your face, I’m like, “Oh, okay”. And then cut to watching the pilot.
Carla Gallo 34:37
They look great.
Emily Deschanel 34:38
I don’t know if I would have made that choice, do that if I knew that’s what would look like and how it’s done.
Carla Gallo 34:46
I think, that’s where you’re making a mistake in life. If you wouldn’t have chosen because you looked fantastic.
Emily Deschanel 34:53
Thank you.
Carla Gallo 34:53
Yeah. You’re welcome.
Emily Deschanel 34:54
Well, let’s just say this, someone did put give that credit for us being picked up.
Carla Gallo 34:59
No, someone was the reason we got picked up your boobs.
Emily Deschanel 35:03
I’m not gonna say who said that.
Carla Gallo 35:04
It’s very funny.
Emily Deschanel 35:05
Yeah.
Carla Gallo 35:05
Is it? Michaela?
Emily Deschanel 35:06
No, it’s not Michaela.
Carla Gallo 35:08
Okay.
Emily Deschanel 35:09
Someone would have more information on why we got picked up.
Carla Gallo 35:12
Oh, okay.
Emily Deschanel 35:14
And I don’t know how much they were joking.
Carla Gallo 35:15
I’m sure they were joking.
Emily Deschanel 35:19
They’re joking. I want to be judged on my marriage.
Carla Gallo 35:23
Look, you are all things […] that is something that’s also important to address. The challenges of this is a brilliant woman who also has a smoking bod. I’m just saying you’re sexy. I like to say it like that. You’re a genius. I mean, you’re all this role, tempered spreading is all things.
Emily Deschanel 35:51
I just want there to be a world where somebody does a show, and I think we’re moving in that way, where you don’t need to have those kinds of quote/unquote assets or show them, if you do.
Carla Gallo 36:05
Yeah, we’re definitely moving that. I think for sure.
Emily Deschanel 36:09
So can we talk about the the montage of the blue angle?
Carla Gallo 36:14
Call it the Elmer’s montage. Sponsored by, the paid advertisement by elmer’s glue. Notice that Elmer just right away. By the way, sexy gluing montage, I’m sorry. I know I’m really harping on your sexiness and I hope I’m not making you uncomfortable. Actually, I do hope I’m making you uncomfortable. But, it was the music and the lighting, your hands like touching the bones.
Emily Deschanel 36:39
It weren’t my fingers.
Carla Gallo 36:41
Oh, okay.
Emily Deschanel 36:44
Cold gossip. I almost said hot.
Carla Gallo 36:46
High gossip.
Emily Deschanel 36:47
Yeah, clearly not hot.
Carla Gallo 36:48
Cryogenic goss.
Emily Deschanel 36:53
I looked up the song.
Carla Gallo 36:55
Oh, I was wondering about the song.Yes! because it was like something, your tongues on fire when you say, there’s something like that. No, the words were like, I was gonna write it down. Look up the lyrics, it’s something like that when you say, “What?”. And I think it’s when you say you love me or something like that. But it’s something very sexy.
Emily Deschanel 37:16
Oh okay. Well, it’s called “Collide”. If you want to look up what that song is Howie Day “Collide”. This is all that we’re gonna give you, all the information.
Carla Gallo 37:25
Apparently.
Emily Deschanel 37:26
Even the information you don’t want.
Carla Gallo 37:27
Yeah.
Emily Deschanel 37:28
That was a popular song. Do you remember that song?
Carla Gallo 37:30
No,I didn’t remember at all.
Emily Deschanel 37:32
Maybe I just remember. […] Probably.
Carla Gallo 37:35
I know
Emily Deschanel 37:36
Recognized it on bones. But it might be more familiar because you’ve seen the episode, because I’ve seen the episode, and I, was part of it for enough time. That’s so funny. Yeah, you don’t remember it.
Carla Gallo 37:49
Cause it’s very sexy.
Emily Deschanel 37:49
No, I don’t remember that at all.
Carla Gallo 37:50
Sexy.
Emily Deschanel 37:51
Not at all.
Carla Gallo 37:51
Sexy. Very sexy, gluing montage.
Emily Deschanel 37:54
There were so many tiny pieces of bones. They were very, that was,like 1000 pieces of bones.
Carla Gallo 38:00
It was, that was crazy.
Emily Deschanel 38:01
I don’t know how she good […]
Carla Gallo 38:03
Brennan must be at jigsaw puzzles. Have we ever talked about that?
Emily Deschanel 38:07
No […]
Carla Gallo 38:09
Champion Jigsaw puzzler? Yeah.
Emily Deschanel 38:13
I’m touching the bones without gloves, and I even bite my nails.
Carla Gallo 38:16
You do? I didn’t notice that. Oh, that’s terrible.
Emily Deschanel 38:20
Like both touching the bone and then putting it in your mouth and then also taking it with your saliva and touching the bones. That’s why we never did that again.
Carla Gallo 38:30
Yeah, no, by the time I got there, you guys were very anal about making sure you’d be specifically, you’d be like, nods with Carla. You touched the keyboard, and then you went to touch the bones, then you touched the keyboard again so you can and I’d be like, “Okay, I guess I won’t touch the keyboard”. Because, you guys were well trained in it.
Emily Deschanel 38:53
I was very well trained. And it goes into my life in ways that are not helpful. I’ve never been diagnosed with OCD, but I feel like there’s, something maybe it’s OCD, a minor OCD, where I’m there. I’m too triggered in some part by the training on bones where I know contamination. You know, Donna Klein, who is our forensic consultant, or whatever.
Carla Gallo 39:19
Yeah.
Emily Deschanel 39:20
Taught us how to do something. So I’m aware of where you contaminate and where you don’t. I definitely was anal, and I definitely did do that. When you touch that, then you touch the other thing.
Carla Gallo 39:31
Yeah, no, but I appreciated it. I mean, I did, because I was like, “Oh, cool we’re gonna make this look real”. I did appreciate it. You know
Emily Deschanel 39:41
Like Daniel Day-Lewis, as we discussed, my level of acting is on par and yours was able to come.
Carla Gallo 39:47
Yeah, no I mean, I think we could say that I was sort of like trained under you. Oh, I guess, mentor. I felt very mentor.
Emily Deschanel 39:59
Oh, you have nothing to learn from me.
Carla Gallo 40:02
No, I listen. I respected it. I think people do appreciate the thoroughness of the show. They do. Yeah, I do think they do. They get into it. We’ve talked about this before, and where more than a few people have reached out saying that they were inspired to become friends and cancerologist. And I think if the show hadn’t have been as thorough, in depth, and people wouldn’t have been as intrigued by, you know what I mean, if it was just a surface, you know, like, solve the crime. But it’s like, it’s a very thorough, detailed show. As I am learning I need to watch the episodes twice, which I wasn’t expecting,
Emily Deschanel 40:35
At least, yeah, I’m now remembering, if memory serves Scientific American rated us the best, most accurate science.
Carla Gallo 40:44
That’s amazing.
Emily Deschanel 40:45
Scientifically accurate television show at some point. […]
Carla Gallo 40:51
Congrats.
Emily Deschanel 40:51
One note I have is that the Cleo Eller case is based on Chandra Levy. If you remember that?
Carla Gallo 40:57
Oh yes.
Emily Deschanel 40:58
Remember that she was having a presumed affair with a congressman. I think, Gary Condit but it turned out I think that the murder was solved after bones came out. I think a couple years later, I think they’ve messed up. I think there was some big mishaps where she was killed randomly by someone who’s like attacking people in that park. She was found in a park in Washington, DC, so it’s kind of based on that.
Carla Gallo 41:25
Oh, okay.
Emily Deschanel 41:26
Cleo Eller a little different. She was an aide to Congressman like Chandra Levy, or maybe it was a…
Carla Gallo 41:33
Oh, you mean the real person?
Emily Deschanel 41:34
Yeah.
Carla Gallo 41:34
Oh, okay.
Emily Deschanel 41:35
And she’s found deceased, and there’s a presumed affair between the two.
Carla Gallo 41:39
Which we should clear up, because we’d had a discussion about this, that she has had an affair with the senator. She is pregnant by the senator and it is her boyfriend, played by Sam Trammell […] Booth says at the end, he’s just trying to save his job. Because there was such confusion for me. The first time I watched it, and I was like, I don’t understand. Like, the senator didn’t kill her. Okay, the boyfriend did, but so was it his baby […].
Emily Deschanel 42:09
What’s confusing her love life circle is so small, and they’re all interconnected, which happens in real life, where people have a boyfriend and then they have an affair. They have a boyfriend that they work with and have an affair with their boss, who they also work with. That happens now, let’s say, to be fair, none of that was proven, but it’s presumed that she was having an affair with the sender. That’s why he didn’t want to give his DNA.
Carla Gallo 42:35
With a baby. Yes, at some point someone does, or maybe she is like “Okay”, right?
Emily Deschanel 42:43
So someone actually pregnant with the Senator’s baby, but what’s the motive? What would the boyfriends want to kill? Or you’re confused by the motive.
Speaker 3 42:50
But, I’m confused by the motive in the end, too, Emily, because, how do I know if it wasn’t something jealousy? And how do we know it’s not jealousy that he says to you.
Carla Gallo 43:01
This is purely about saving his job, because if it comes out about the baby, if it’s proven that he had the affair, it’s going to ruin. If Sam tremble, loses job.
Emily Deschanel 43:11
But if his girlfriend was having an affair with some guy and she got pregnant with him, people do. I’m not saying that’s warranted. He’s Senator too. But he goes and kill people. Booth kill for jealousy.
Carla Gallo 43:11
Yeah, I don’t know why.
Emily Deschanel 43:11
That maybe it was the manner in which she was killed and that it was methodical and how she gets it was also disposary, she was stabbed multiple times.
Emily Deschanel 43:31
Yeah, seems almost like…
Emily Deschanel 43:32
Unlike Chandra Levy, who apparently was just tied up and left to die.
Emily Deschanel 43:36
Which is what I read. Okay, wait, Sam Trammell plays Ken Thompson, Cleo Ellers, boyfriend, and as we find out at the end of the episode, her murderer. I have two things to say. Sam Trammell went on to do True Blood, but I saw Sam Trammell three years after doing the pilot of bones, about three years maybe four tops at a birthday party, not to drop names, but it was Billy Crudup’s birthday party.
Speaker 3 43:36
Do you know David Crudup?
Carla Gallo 43:36
No.
Emily Deschanel 43:40
worked with him? Like, right when we started dating, he did a movie with him, David, your husband, my husband, not David Boone, David, my husband. So we got to the point, and we parked, and I saw Sam tram, and I was like, Oh, you did, but we worked together. You did bones. And he’s like, What? No, what are you talking about? He did not remember doing the pilot of mountains. Yeah, I would think that would be the most the highlight of your period is about True Blood. I know that should be the highlight of your period. But Carla, yes, just after I started watching with the kids, okay, okay, five minutes with the kids and I, we saw Sam, and my husband came in, and he’s like, Oh, Sam trammell’s in it. And as we are watching, my phone goes off and I get a text about Sam Trammell, what from a movie that I’m doing? They’re offering a part to him. Oh, so it’s possible. I mean, no memory I need [..] before.
Carla Gallo 44:56
Well, I think I have worked with him. I pray that he is in it and that you. I know return podcast, and you just have new stories for me about him still not remembering he was on bones like I just want, I want the update.
Emily Deschanel 45:09
Give him lots of crap. I know he better come on this podcast.
Carla Gallo 45:12
Oh yes, right, sidle up and get him to come on the pod.
Emily Deschanel 45:16
Yeah, exactly.
Carla Gallo 45:17
Oh, my God. Okay,
Emily Deschanel 45:18
so let’s talk about Oh Chris Connor plays. Oliver Laurier, yeah, the stalker the soccer which is kind of a flip on Lawrence Olivier, I
Carla Gallo 45:26
Didn’t realize that.
Emily Deschanel 45:26
Yeah, no, I don’t know why they do that. I don’t know, but Chris Connor has been friends with my husband since high school and college. And when I first worked with Chris, I remember getting in the van and he said, you know David Hornsby? Because they did know David Hornsby. I wasn’t dating him, but I knew him peripherally through friends. That’s how we met. But just knew him peripherally for several years before we ever dated, yeah, yeah, and so. And I said, oh yeah. So that was our connection. And we talked, he’s a great guy, and I did a podcast, funnily enough, a scripted podcast, with him. And agent Stoker is the name of that if people want to check it out. And Tamara Taylor’s also on that podcast. They also work together on a another TV show, altered carbon. Oh yeah, I watched that. So I do have a note that, just as my walk.
Carla Gallo 46:15
Exclamation point, okay, I didn’t know you want to notice. You want to talk. I I’m not gonna touch that, but I did notice it, and so did my husband, Mark, when we watched the first day.
Emily Deschanel 46:25
He was like and I will say it was not fully intentional, not that I knew that I was gonna look like that, but I think it was intentional that I wanted to be determined and going somewhere. I was not aware that that’s what I look like while being determined and walking, and even while Mark noticed it. And like I said, we watched like, five minutes with my kids last night before realizing how many references to different things that I might not want them to see. And my husband’s friend is staying with us, and he mentioned, even after, like, later on that night, he’s like, that walk. You know what? That’s a no, no. You said that’s a determined walk. And I was like, I know, right, yeah, I have places to be. I have a murder just saw.
Carla Gallo 47:09
Can I just say do not criticize three words, yeah. Daniel Day.
Emily Deschanel 47:13
Oh, Lewis, exactly.
Carla Gallo 47:14
Okay, that’s all I’m saying. I was just
Emily Deschanel 47:16
in it. That is Brennan’s walk.
Carla Gallo 47:19
That is Brennan’s lock, and maybe also your walk, and also maybe
Emily Deschanel 47:23
my walk, that’s just your tournament. But, I mean, no, also Brennan’s walk.
Carla Gallo 47:28
It’s that you were wearing character.
Emily Deschanel 47:29
Okay, I was definitely Carla, okay, don’t doubt that. I mean, okay, I’ll say this. I did a show where I had to wear high heel. I was not used to wearing high heels. I had to wear high heels, and I had to wear high heels, and I had to walk in these high heels. And the character has to say, she looks like Claudia Schiffer, oh, boy. The actor started laughing because I was walking so badly in my high heels. Yeah. Anyway, so that was, uh, so I know that I have a funny walk, especially in high heels, because it was not so used to walking in high heels. It’s not a natural thing, not a natural thing. Oh, another thing I want to talk about is that some of these scenes were not originally filmed with the pilot. Really. We added maybe three scenes taking place in the FBI. So the scenes with Booth’s boss, who I like very much. Yeah, me too. So all the scenes with him and the boss, with me, him and the boss, and then with him, when booth is looking at the footage, I like that that’s added that was.
Carla Gallo 48:37
That’s so interesting. because I actually made a note about that, that what I think was really important, and I’m guessing was the purpose of the scene, but it really showed his heart. I mean, I know that a lot of the setup is that like, you are, you know, he’s gut, and you are, you know, intellect, you know, or you are research, he is heart. But this, to me, was like, just an really showing. I mean, you both have it where you’re like, these are not just like faceless victims, as it turns out, even though you kind of come at this like, I’m, you know, I’m very analytical and I’m very, you know, logic based. But like this for me, that scene of him watching her and being so affected by her, I was like, oh, you know, this is really giving us like, what motivates him and how much of that is, like, his heart, you know? Yeah, he’s not just this, like FBI sharpshooter.
Emily Deschanel 49:26
Yeah, he’s got that’s really nice.
Carla Gallo 49:28
Got heart too.
Emily Deschanel 49:30
Okay, we need to talk about the gun range. We can’t range. So Brennan goes to blow off some steam, as you do at the gun range, and booth sneaks up behind her and then stands so close to her, so close.
Carla Gallo 49:47
I mean, I was gonna say blowing up steam. I mean, it was, it was creating some steam. I mean, I’m sorry, that might have been my favorite part of the show.
Emily Deschanel 49:54
It was very sexy. Feel like you have a lot of favorite parts of the show for this.
Carla Gallo 49:59
Always sexy, though they’re always the sexy, the gluing the boobs, the gun range. Get my mind out of the gutter.
Emily Deschanel 50:08
Impossible, impossible.
Carla Gallo 50:10
No, I just liked it. I just, I mean, you guys are just as close as two human beings can be during a conversation without having a kiss.
Emily Deschanel 50:19
Yeah.
Carla Gallo 50:21
Don’t know I liked it. I mean, come on, wait. The whole damn show is built on the tension between the two of you, and it is delicious.
Emily Deschanel 50:30
I loved it. I don’t know Brennan’s a good shot with a gun. She absolutely learned that. We learned that she’s also good with martial arts. Because she, well, we’ve
Carla Gallo 50:38
Known, we’ve seen that first, literally, so good, yeah. And then he, I also enjoyed the last little where he, like, you walk away and he, like, turns […]
Emily Deschanel 50:46
Like, it does not a good job.
Carla Gallo 50:48
No, he does not, no, but no. It was just, it was a, it was a nice scene. And B, there was, like, a lot of sexual tension, yeah.
Emily Deschanel 50:55
I mean, in real life, that would be very kind of nuts. Is that close to someone you’re working with. Um,
Carla Gallo 51:02
Yeah, unless you’re going to ultimately marry them and have seven years late.
Emily Deschanel 51:08
Seven years later, yeah, whatever. Sure. I mean, I think I remember in rehearsal, like deciding to do it like that. Oh, really, that’s not how it wasn’t I think getting in close or something. I remember that happened in rehearsal. You know what? That tells me you guys had chemistry. I was just gonna make a joke that our chemistry was just so good we could no but that is true. Be away from each other.
Carla Gallo 51:28
If you think that that does not I have some friends who can attest to when you don’t have chemistry with the actor who is being your love interest, it can go south. And sometimes they have to change the script, because you’re like, yep, these two people just don’t there is nothing between them.
Emily Deschanel 51:45
But I think, okay, I think that David and I had chemistry, and I think, but I also think that we really made it our job to have chemistry. Both of us made sure that we continue to have chemistry, and we worked on that. That makes sense. It sounds kind of funny to say, but we knew that was really important. One of the most important, one of the most important things for our our jobs as actors on that show is to have chemistry and to also for us to get along. And so we had kind of a pact that we would get along, essentially, and we would work together, and we worked together on the weekends. And we also had like an agreement, like, if we weren’t getting along, we have, like, little inside jokes about that. What we do if we were acting badly, he would send me a diet coke that was a symbol that was acting badly.
Carla Gallo 52:29
Would he do it? Would someone like you?
Emily Deschanel 52:30
Diet Yes, stop it. I mean, multiple times. It was hilarious.
Carla Gallo 52:35
And what did you send him?
Emily Deschanel 52:37
I never would do that. It’s more something he did. It is funny I like but to be honest, I probably acted worse than he did. I’m just joking,
Carla Gallo 52:46
But I do love it, because that would make me laugh.
Emily Deschanel 52:48
Yeah, David makes me laugh a lot. But we had a thing where we would also have a pack that like, if we were annoying each we knew that we would annoy each other working so much with each other, yeah, that if you know we were annoying each other, we would just say, Hey, you’re annoying me. I need space or something. Oh, that’s great. And we, we hardly ever did that, because we are we knew that we could say that to each other.
Carla Gallo 53:08
I’m impressed. And I had noticed it for sure as well. Like, how well you guys got along like that there, you know, there were some various, you know, as a person who was coming in and out, I would witness, you know, set tensions and various things that happen. And I very much clocked that you guys always got along. You always, like, were respectful of each other. It didn’t feel competitive, you know, like a lot of the things that you sometimes see on shows. And I was, I really, really clocked that between the two of you. So to hear you say that you guys, like, worked on it, I mean, it’s smart and it makes sense, and it was beneficial to the show, you know?
Emily Deschanel 53:43
Yeah? Well, yeah, it was really important for us to get along and to have chemistry. So probably that was all driven by him to he has so much more experience with doing TV shows. I had never done it before, so I learned a lot from him, yeah, oh, I want to talk about, there’s a scene towards the end we are drinking out of like beaker type things or graduated cylinders or something like that. Oh, right before you go and apply, right before you go bust him. So Brennan has a realization, and the line is Oliver Lori said that Ken Thompson kept fish, something to that effect, yes, and I kept saying a very, a terrible word that I would never normally say, Hmm, we can bleep it out, but I’ll say it.
Carla Gallo 54:27
Bleep it. Oh, no, word.
Emily Deschanel 54:29
I don’t want that out there.
Carla Gallo 54:30
Well, you can say you can spell, you can spell, or you can, you know what people say, See you next Tuesday.
Emily Deschanel 54:37
Yeah, so I said that, and Oliver Laurie said that Thompson kept fish. And then people were laughing, and I didn’t, I didn’t know I did that. And then people say, You know what you said? And I said, What? No, I would never say that word. I would never say that word, Freud. And then I did it again, and they said, you said it again. And I still didn’t hear it really, and then I said it again, and I did hear it, and I finally said it correctly, but that was just your brain. Well, I was tired, yeah, we were working long hours, and it was late night, and I was tired and so and drunk, and your mouth doesn’t move so well when you’re drunk and drunk, yeah, but that’s one of my my memories. That makes me laugh from the pilot. Right after that scene, Brandon goes to Ken Thompson’s house and breaks in, attaches him.
Carla Gallo 55:27
Pouring gasoline Oliver’s floor, which does.
Emily Deschanel 55:31
Not stop doing, it a very casual, very calm, very casually, very calmly and continuously, yes, and I mean, I’ve thought about this, I guess in one sense, he just wants to continue, just getting […]
Carla Gallo 55:46
And he said he’s gonna let you as well, by the way, he says that he’s placed on fire. And you so I think he’s and I guess you’re also very calm. I might know, no, I know. I’m very calm.
Emily Deschanel 55:57
It’s an interesting scene.
Carla Gallo 55:59
I liked it, but it is, yeah, it did stand out to me as, like, you guys, there’s no urgency. There doesn’t feel like a lot of urgency.
Emily Deschanel 56:07
Yeah, it probably would be better if we had more, maybe a little urgency. It wasn’t written with it, but it’s kind of an interesting scene in that, like, he’s setting it on fire. So he’s like, Well, I’m just gonna destroy this evidence. Yes, so no matter what you say or do, it’s all gone, right?
Carla Gallo 56:21
It’s gonna go, I’m about to do it. He doesn’t expect you to have a gun and to shoot him, no last time, right?
Emily Deschanel 56:28
Brennan drives a jeep, which I didn’t remember until watching it.
Carla Gallo 56:31
I didn’t notice that. Yeah, sure, cool, she’s cool. Then we go, I mean, obviously I like seeing you all together again. Very cohesive. End of the episode. You’re all together, but I especially liked you and booth Brennan, and booth walking away, and he is saying he wants to catch as many murderers as people he killed as a sniper. And you say, you know, you’re looking for some kind of cosmic balance sheet. And then you say that you’d like to help him with that. And I thought that was really nice. And again, sort of sets the trajectory for the rest of the show. And just like that, he’s got this moral side that’s like, I’m trying to kind of right the wrongs, and that you’re like, I want to be about your side doing that. And I thought that was really lovely.
Emily Deschanel 57:17
Yeah, I like that moment too. Just connection between the characters. I think the funeral scene was one of the first scenes we did, because I remember talking to Eric Milligan, and believe it was one of the first times we spoke. Was in when we’re all lined up next to each other, and I realized what a unique, interesting person he was. He told some funny story. Can’t remember what it was, but we will be talking to him, yes, and it will be funny to think if that was.
Carla Gallo 57:45
One of the first days. It’s kind of nice if you were all together.
Emily Deschanel 57:48
But that last scene between Booth and Brennan, if that’s the first day, that’s interesting, yeah.
Carla Gallo 57:54
Yeah, that’s true, but it was, yeah, it was lovely. A really nice ending. Just chemistry with the whole cast and with you and David.
Emily Deschanel 58:02
Yeah, and we find out Brennan’s book is a seller list of New York Times.
Carla Gallo 58:07
Number three of the bullet, yeah.
Emily Deschanel 58:10
I love that. You remember that good line I kind of, you know, foreshadows what became kind of a formula, eventually ending episodes with booth and Brendan, yeah, with some like kind of sweet connection, yeah, little repartee and and reflection and reflection, an emotional connection, as well as some humor and lightness. Yeah, well, I liked it problematically.
Carla Gallo 58:41
We have to watch a lot. This is the first and only episode of Boneheads. I hope you’ve enjoyed it. I’m just kidding. Nope, turns out I’m a fan of the show.
Emily Deschanel 58:47
Oh, wow, thank God. Well, thanks for doing this with me.
Carla Gallo 59:02
Thanks for listening to me and yes, thanks for listening.
Emily Deschanel 59:08
And we’ll be back.
Carla Gallo 59:10
We sure will.
CREDITS 59:13
Boneheads is a production of Lemonada Media and us. Our producer is Alex McOwen. Our engineer is Noah Smith. Our senior vice president of weekly content is Steve Nelson. Our executive producers are Stephanie Wittels Wachs, Jessica Cordova Kramer and us, Emily Deschanel and Carla Gallo. Music by Doug Paisley. Special thanks to Allison Bresnick and Andrew Carson. To stay up to date with us and submit your listener questions, follow us on Instagram @Boneheadspod and @LemonadaMedia on all social channels. Follow Boneheads wherever you get your podcasts, or listen ad free on Amazon music with your Prime membership. Thanks so much for listening.
