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Our jet-setting Aunties have returned home! Their overflowing carts mean we had to break this up into a two-parter. Ku tells Su about taking the fam to the Disney resort in Hawaii. Buckle in, because it’s a ride, featuring attractions such as Ku’s IV drip, Hozier’s hit song, and a deep tissue massage. After almost a week of lazy rivers and Moana pictures, Ku realizes paradise looks a little different with a baby.

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• Su realizes the lyrics to Hozier’s “Too Sweet” in real time

• The musician Slow Funeral on IG has a fantastic parody version that doubles as a potty training song

• Aulani is as amazing as it looks, Ku highly recommends the spa

• Ku dined at Monkeypod Kitchen followed by ice cream at Black Sheep Cream Co

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Transcript

SPEAKERS

Recording, Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak

Kulap Vilaysack  00:10

Welcome back to Add To Cart. I am your sun soaked and semi tropical, auntie Kulap Vilaysack.

 

SuChin Pak  00:16

And I am your jet lagged and new faced Suchin Pak.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  00:22

I don’t know why that wasn’t top of mind.

 

SuChin Pak  00:26

Even though this new face?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  00:27

Well, this is like our entire personality, and I forgot about that piece of your trip, so yeah, okay, Sue and I have just landed back from our big trips. I took a family trip with Scott and Emmy to Hawaii, and you went back for round two of South Korea with this new face that I’m looking at, adults only. Adults only.

 

SuChin Pak  00:48

No hash browns.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  00:50

No slime cafes, except for slime Musin.

 

SuChin Pak  00:54

On my face and my BOD, uh huh.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  00:58

On your bod. You don’t care about your bod normally. Okay, okay, all right. So let’s, let’s get into our carts. How should we go about this? What are we doing?

 

SuChin Pak  01:07

We’ll take turns. You go first.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  01:09

Okay, and if this ends up being a part two, so be it. I think there’s like, so much to get into.

 

Recording  01:15

I mean, maybe not. Maybe this will be easy breezy.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  01:19

Oh, it’ll be easy breezy. I’m just talking about like, is this a lazy river?

 

SuChin Pak  01:24

Yeah, mine’s a gushing fire hose. So mine may be quick, but it’s gonna come fast. So put on your face guards.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  01:33

Okay, let’s start with me. I just want to squelch what I think Tiffany thought I was gonna be like and level set to what suchin knew I was going to be like, which is absolutely exhausted, absolutely and fully exhausted.

 

SuChin Pak  01:52

I love it wait. I feel like I’m listening to myself. Is this microphone on? On? I mean is, am I just hearing my own thoughts?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  02:03

I just need to explain to people that I’ve been to Hawaii. I think this was many times, truly.

 

SuChin Pak  02:09

I get off the plane and people are like, straight up. People are like, you look like you belong here.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  02:13

Yeah, that’s right. I do face, body, everything. Okay.

 

SuChin Pak  02:18

I never feel more at home and in my skin than on those islands.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  02:24

It’s so true. Now I’ve been to those islands at least five times, honeymooning and Kauai was my first time. This trip was not like that.

 

SuChin Pak  02:33

Okay, I just want to say the reason I’m smiling from ear to ear and grinning so hard isn’t because I want to see you tired and in pain. It’s just when I see myself reflected and validated. It’s a different kind of acknowledgement that the universe when it gifts you, that even at the expense of your dear friend. No, it’s a tip of the hat. You can’t but accept it with joy.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  03:07

With knowing, nodding.

 

SuChin Pak  03:08

To be fair, we’ve talked about this up until now. You and I generally, let’s just broad strokes. I feel have had very different parenting experiences, and I look at yours as like, wow. What could I do to get to that side? Because you are a sunny disposition gal. Yeah, sure. When I see you with your daughter, I see, Wow, a version of myself that I aspire to. And so when I just hear top line, I am tired. It does jingle something.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  03:47

I get it. I do, I really do.

 

SuChin Pak  03:49

Again, I know it’s at your expense.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  03:52

I accept it, you know, I understand it.

 

SuChin Pak  03:57

And dying.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  03:58

I spoke Casey Rose Wilson this morning. And she was like, Cool, up. That was a six days just you, Scott and Emmy, like, I’ve done this. I’m she was like, You should be proud you did it. I was like, yeah, so the top is toughest line is it was a lot and a lot of fun. Yeah, it was a lot, we didn’t start strong because I had a debilitating headache, debilitating headache the like, a couple days before, like, where I was like, Is this a migraine? Is this my first migraine? I don’t know what is up. Am I dehydrated? It kind of came out of nowhere and not in a sort of stress related situation. So I was confused by that, but it took me out, like a full day, and then I was like, menopause. Yeah, maybe.

 

SuChin Pak  05:02

Could be hormonal migraines, well.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  05:04

Okay, so the night before we were gonna get up to go on an early flight, I did a Casey rose Wilson recommendation, which I think we’ve talked about on Mike, I know she certainly has. She called me up. She’s like, I have migraine medicine for you. But what I really think you should do is have Tabitha the IV nurse. Come on over.

 

SuChin Pak  05:32

Oh, you hit the panic button. You were like, yes, stick it in me. All of it, put it in my mouth.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  05:41

Yes, well, it ain’t mouth, baby. It’s that mouth. It’s up the veins. It’s IV treatment. It’s a nurse coming to the house, and.

 

SuChin Pak  05:50

This is you already hanging by a thread, even before you’ve gone on the flight.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  05:56

Exactly, exactly. And I’m like, I don’t know. Maybe I’m dehydrated. Maybe, you know, so Casey was, like, very clear. She was like, listen, yeah, I need you to be in your pajamas because she’s gonna hit you. There’s a mix that’s going into this IV, and there’s Benadryl, and it’s gonna knock you out. So you get in your pajamas, and then you’re gonna get yourself straight to bed. And I was like, okay, okay, great. Tabitha shows up. There’s a child actor documentary. Put that on in Hulu. My sister’s there. I’m like, Alyssa, sit down and watch this happening. She’s like, Oh my God. I’m like, take some pictures, which I will share. I was like, Maybe I’m also dehydrated, so this is key. So she’s like, let me give you a second bag to kind of help that, knock that out. And the last thing she does is, like, put in like, the beta drill, which does get me sleep. And I’m like, this is a great idea. This is amazing, because I gotta, I gotta wake up at like, five or, you know, to get Emmy and to get us out of here. You know, the problem was such an fuck, oh, shit is that? It did knock me out. I was knocked out like at eight. 830 woke me. I woke up at midnight.

 

SuChin Pak  07:11

Oh, because I had to pee three times. Oh, Tabitha, she should have put a catheter in. You should have gone full under.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  07:22

So from 12 to four I am wide awake.

 

SuChin Pak  07:25

Oh and hydrated.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  07:26

So hydrated.

 

SuChin Pak  07:29

Now is your headache gone?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  07:30

Yes, but I’m thinking about you this entire time, like, oh my god.

 

SuChin Pak  07:35

Oh my god. Welcome to my land.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  07:39

Yeah, so then I get up, I get Emmy up, I get her ready. She got eight hours, but that’s not she needs eight hours. 11 to 12, yeah, for her age. And then becomes the Hall of a toddler, a toddler an lax going through security, doing all that. Oh, god, yeah, getting on that plane, getting on that plane. Now, listeners, when we recall that she did four hours of Minnesota, but that one hour sure makes a difference. Friends, that one hour makes a whole lot of difference.

 

SuChin Pak  08:14

Humping. You’re rapping.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  08:16

Can I tell you something?

 

SuChin Pak  08:17

What?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  08:19

You will laugh at me so hard because I’m so, like, decisions made while tired, like, it things just take twice as long, and I am pumping and I’m like, why isn’t it blowing out? Why isn’t it blowing up? And it’s taking forever, Scott, I don’t know what is going on, and I don’t realize that one flap on the other side was open the entire time, yeah, and the whole time I was like, oh my god, I’m I’m dying because I used it for one trip and it didn’t work. Oh my god.

 

SuChin Pak  08:52

I don’t even halfway through that. I’m tossing that over my shoulder. I got another thing in my bag, pulling on another thing. Fine, we’ll try the hammock. No. Oh my No, that’s mommy brain.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  09:06

And just so, you know, like that, it took all of us, probably three or four days to just, kind of, like, start to make correct decisions. Like, also know that I’m just like, why didn’t I think to okay, like, it’s stuff like that. Now, Emmy not as interested in the screen. She definitely was like, I’m gonna walk. Like, she’s like, I need to walk. And I need to be with the people. Yeah, I want to be with the entire flight. A delightful moment to share is, are you suchin PAC, familiar with the Hosier, I don’t even want to say it. The song too sweet.

 

SuChin Pak  09:45

I mean, I don’t know.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  09:46

Let’s hear it.

 

SuChin Pak  09:52

Skin, yes, kids love this. I never actually knew these were the lyrics.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  10:01

Okay? Well, you don’t you didn’t know those were the lyrics. I’m gonna confuse you even further, because the musician’s slow funeral and IG does a parody that I taught Emmy, which we’ll listen to right now.

 

Recording  10:15

Take my booty cheeks, then I sit down on the toilet seat. I go poop and pee. I go poop and pee. I take my booty cheese.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  10:36

I mean, great. I mean, wait, is this? Is this specifically a potty training song that was not her intention? Oh, okay, because it’s the perfect potty training song, perfect. And so we’ll get into this in a future episode. But you know, Emmy’s gonna start school, we’re wrapping our heads around potty training. And I was like, This is good. This is really good. So I’ve been teaching her her version, and now I’m going to share with you a video from the plane. This is, you know, and just this is an early flight, so people are trying to sleep, like some flights, you’re like, Oh, if it’s a noon flight, it doesn’t really matter. But now I shall share with you Emmy doing her version of that song.

 

Recording  11:47

Oh my gosh, my booty teak my booty teaks and like booty Deeks […]

 

Kulap Vilaysack  11:54

I was telling this to my therapist yesterday. She was like, Oh, were the other people laughing [..] the.

 

SuChin Pak  12:01

Amused by our children.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  12:02

Su, I don’t know. I don’t make eye contact. It’s none of my business.

 

SuChin Pak  12:06

You can’t look up from that. You have to pump that bed. Not making any eye contact, O eye contact. You just actually contextualize what’s happening.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  12:20

I’m not including anybody else in this. No, you don’t want to know. I’m not taking that on. Okay? That’s their experience. That’s right, experience of me that I’m that’s completely unaware of.

 

SuChin Pak  12:32

And that’s right. That is a good parenting. Tip is, you do you? You not worry about what’s happening in the other lane as that you will crash that car. You just looked straight ahead. Yeah, 10 and 210, and 210, and two.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  12:50

Okay, so that truly was so funny. So it’s like, it’s a long flight, and.

 

SuChin Pak  12:57

It’s so much longer than you think, and then

 

Kulap Vilaysack  13:01

just the time difference was no joke. It was just not no joke. And my friend John, who had gone to, we went to Aulani, the Disney Resort, and this is gonna we’re gonna talk about this. We’re gonna land really hard on centering a vacation around your child, which I shan’t do again.

 

SuChin Pak  13:23

Right? I love it too, honey. She’s not even to buckle in.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  13:32

You want to have done this?

 

SuChin Pak  13:34

I’ve been to the Aulani, yes. And what are you talking about? I I just came from a water park resort in Korea. Okay, right? And, and I have thoughts, go ahead. Oh, go ahead.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  13:52

All right, so the time difference, she woke up at 3am, here’s the problem I made. The mistake of, is that the monitor I brought, yeah, when I looked at it, I’m like, Oh, it’s fine. It’s almost seven because bitch, it was on California time. And when I brought her to the bed, just like to hang out a little bit, I looked at the clock and it was 3am, and there’s no going back. There’s no putting her back into the sleep part. Oh, there’s none of that. Go ahead and ask me if she went back to sleep. I don’t have to ask you No, because you know.

 

SuChin Pak  14:24

As soon, no, when you you don’t move to a second location. Yeah, we’ve all seen the after school special. Okay? In every situation, you do not move to a second location, whether you’re being kidnapped or whether your child gets up at 3am You’re done. The second location, you’re done.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  14:57

So let’s circle back to what I was saying about, centering […] around your child.

 

SuChin Pak  15:04

And you know, yes, define what that means for you, because I need to know what that means for you, because it means different things, right? For me, centering my vacation means all I’m looking for are hash browns. Okay? So, yes, tell me in this particular instance, what does it what did it mean to center the vacation around your child?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  15:25

I was like, Oh, what if we stay next door at the Four Seasons and do like a couple nights at olani? Or can we get day passes? I don’t think you can get day passes. But Scott was like, You know what? Let’s just stay at Aulani. There’ll be so much for her to do. It’s kid centered. Yes, the place is kid centered, correct? Now, of course, there are Disney adults there, but that’s a separate conversation.

 

SuChin Pak  15:49

Also, Kid centered, inner child. Centered, inner child, but child is centered.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  15:55

That’s right. So versus in the past, again, bringing up, like, other Hawaiian vacations.

 

Recording  16:05

Please do please bring up your other.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  16:09

I am at.

 

SuChin Pak  16:11

Concierge centered.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  16:13

Oh, I’m not doing anything. I’m wet, yeah, not actively wet, like ohani, I’m in the pool all day, but I’m not keeping something alive like I’m.

 

SuChin Pak  16:26

At a restaurant eating, yeah, but I’m not at a restaurant not eating and feeding.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  16:34

For the most part. She’s pretty good about that stuff and being at restaurants, but look, there’s so much to do at Aulani. That’s part of the issue that I’m gonna speak of there. You know, it’s both an endorsement, and it made me so weary, because it’s the beach is amazing, as you probably remember, it’s so the water’s temperate. It’s a very chill beach. And there are so many pools, so many pools, a water playground, a lazy river, a reef pool filled with tropical fish, and then there are characters to take pictures with the Disney piece, right? So I found myself just like we were, just go, go, go, until she napped, and then until she went to bed. And when she it was nap time, we were both, like, cogged out.

 

SuChin Pak  16:34

Passed out, yeah.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  16:58

And at bedtime, we’re like, great, lights out.

 

SuChin Pak  17:30

Eight o’clock, everyone is asleep, right?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  17:32

Oh yeah. I don’t need to talk to you anymore. I’ll, you know what I mean?

 

SuChin Pak  17:36

Like, I’mlike, we’re going on IG trying to figure out recentering yourself because you’ve you’ve been off centered, yeah.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  17:44

Look, she had a absolute ball, and we loved seeing her have this absolute ball. We knew it’s not going to be about her remembering things later. Was about us all being together and having this experience after Scott had been touring for so much this summer, but at the same time, I couldn’t help but think that, like if we were at Four Seasons, yeah, even the four where she would be fine, yes, simply just at the beginning you would be better. Yes, and that that is what I was kind of, but then Scott was, Scott felt like, oh, but she would be bored. I’m like, I don’t think that should be an issue. Like, she’s more impressed at this age by anything. Yes, it was great that we did it, but we didn’t need to do it.

 

SuChin Pak  18:37

But you needed to learn that. Because I’m going to say this, in my experience, the Aulani is perfect when they’re about starting at five and up, like five to whatever the cap is for Disney interest. Like, up until that point, you should be staying at an adult centered resort, still at a resort, but at an adult centered resort, because you’re right, she’s not going to know the difference. The great thing about these resorts, because I’m at that phase in my life where I like, I’m only going to stay at resorts from now on, I learned my lesson in Korea when I stayed at the water park resort. I was like, resisted resorts. Hate the thought of it, don’t want any part of it, and realized, Oh no, this is all I’m doing. I’m just looking up Hyatt family, Marriott family resort, all inclusive, these are the only search terms when I’m traveling with my kids, who are 10 and 12, because I realize those kinds of resorts, Alani, these water park, whatever it is when they’re older, the freedom of just having a wristband and being like a See you at lunch, yeah.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  19:44

Kids clubs.

 

SuChin Pak  19:45

They’re off, but when you have to be with your child at these different activities, yeah, it’s a different thing, and she’s still at that age. But now you know you did it. Now you know you you should go back, because, see. Seeing them experience that they’re doing their own thing and is a true fantasy land, then you have your rest, because they’re just off for hours at a time, and so you’re not having to experience the Disney Resort as a caretaker, and you can just relax at the resort part of it, but you’re absolutely right. It would have been perfectly fine had you stayed at a different hotel?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  20:24

We have gorgeous photos. And like we find ourselves in line at the appointed time to take photos with Moana and Daisy Duck and Mickey Mouse. Edit it. It is so funny to just like it’s these will be long lines, and just take a photo of the line itself and go, Wow. Parenting is wild and and we’ll always have that. We’ll always have those, those, and it was part of it too. Was like, yeah, for me, was like, I don’t want to be wet anymore. I don’t want sand in my crotch anymore. I’d rather wait for, you know, Goofy, then have to, like, be drenched in the MENA Hooni bridge [….]

 

SuChin Pak  21:18

Get me out of this fucking.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  21:22

one part of of this water playground where it gets really cold and it was hot, and who have I eat, and there’s just this draft where Scott and I had just, like, tap out, like, your turn. Because, like, there for some, some sort of, like, the way the chasm of Aulani was it just was chilling at one part of the menehuni Bridge water playground.

 

SuChin Pak  21:43

Listen, am I as a 50 year old woman being shot down a plastic slide with water on it, all the bumps and knobs on my back, just hitting every fucking fiberglass, protruding thing and to land in the water, and my son go right the best. And I’m like, the best. And I’m thinking in my mind, I have to, right now, back in the States, book an appointment with my body person, because I threw c2 and four out, and you just do it. And you’re like, but why am I and you just do it?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  22:22

Yeah, I mean, Scott did all of the slides, and we watched him come down and stuff, and he was like, you do it? I was like, Absolutely not. No, I shan’t. I shan’t. Now Sue I did go to the spa because I’ve never not gone to a spa.

 

SuChin Pak  22:37

Please tell me the Disney spa really understands how parents […]

 

Kulap Vilaysack  22:42

Are doing.

 

SuChin Pak  22:43

Okay, there you go, this is what I love. I love when you know that the programming has been done by a parent, yeah, and maybe specifically a woman, because you can feel that touch. You can feel the touch in the menus. You can feel the touch in the spa and the temp.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  23:03

That’s right, it was I got a deep tissue lomi, Lomi massage. It is an excellent spa. I’ve been to many a spa like I have mentioned. I am a as a personality, I am a spa. So trust that when I in, when I endorse, that the spa. And I was like, Scott, I’m gonna be gone from 12 to two piece out figure it out. I’ll set you guys up in the room. I wouldn’t be solo in the manahuna bridge if I were you.

 

SuChin Pak  23:32

But hey, you do it your way. I’m going lo me, lo me.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  23:36

What I would do is like, it’s 11:30 right now. Let’s get some takeout from ulu. Get yourself back into the room. Settle in there like save yourself, save your back. God, your pussy and you crack, because I’m going to, I’m going to. And they know kids at the spa. It is very chill. And an excellent masseuse, I highly recommend that.

 

SuChin Pak  24:03

I’m surprised you didn’t do that every day. I would have required that every day.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  24:08

Have you ever been to that spot you didn’t do that?

 

SuChin Pak  24:11

No, of course not. I wouldn’t even, I wouldn’t even cross my mind at a place like that. I’m like, No, I don’t need that. Ooh, Goofy, coming in for a head rub, and that’s, I don’t need that.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  24:33

So across the street from Aulani and the four seasons is place called monkeypox kitchen, and they have this amazing Mai Tai that is just like a top notch Mai Tai, and it’s got this, like honey lilikoi foam, which is just it was delicious.

 

SuChin Pak  24:50

Again. Parents, programming. Parents, yes, we see you. We salute you.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  24:56

And then right next to monkey pod kitchen, in the same sort of. Village shopping area is Black Sheep cream company suchen Pak, Oh, delicious ice cream. Oh, ice cream. Ooh, ice cream. I had the once you go black, which is roasted black sesame and busta Coconut, coconut cream, coconut we did leave campus one night. We went next door to the four seasons. We had an adult dinner there at the Minas fish house. We let them know that we were there in part to celebrate Emmy’s birthday, which is coming up this Friday. She’ll be two this Friday. So they gave her chocolate cake really fast, faster than, um, like her like, really quickly, like before our meal came down, chocolate cake hit the table, and she was in heaven, in heaven.

 

SuChin Pak  25:47

Yeah, because she did she, if I remember correctly, she didn’t have cake at birthday one.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  25:52

But yeah, yeah, she has sweets, I’m very worried about food issues, so I give her a little bit of stuff. She tries everything she of course, she wants more of it. But, you know, this is sort of a side note, because we kind of like talking about, like, food things, like allergies, no, like, just hang ups about food and not having things. And I’m really, especially with girls, you probably feel the same way, like, I just, I’m worried about disordered eating. Okay, so I just still want to be where you can’t have this, or you can’t have sugar, you can’t, you know, and I’m just very conscious of that. We originally sue for Add to Cart. We were gonna do, like, Oh, what do I eat during a day? And I was like, Yeah, that’ll be funny. Specifically, what you eat for a day. But I find myself really resisting that sort of culture where it in any way seems like a food diary. I actually had one there.

 

SuChin Pak  26:53

Neither one of us, I think, have a diary that anyone would want to emulate.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  26:59

But there’s something I yeah, that I find kind of, like resistant about, like, going through a food log that like, takes me back to, like, my 20s, or, like, you know what I mean, when I actually was dieting, even though I’m not dieting now, it like, it like, triggers me a little bit.

 

SuChin Pak  27:15

So, yeah, no, I understand that, and I’m glad that you said that when you have kids, like, all that stuff that’s like, on autopilot, and then when it comes you’re like, Whoa, wait, I have to examine that, because I don’t know that that’s right. Like, what does that? What does it mean when I say this? Or like the other day, Kai is in the early stages of puberty, you know, and he doesn’t have Korean pits, yeah, because I’m not used to that that type of odor coming from anybody near me, it is shocking to have it come from my child. And so the other day, I said, Whoa, your armpit smells so bad you have to take a shower. And he had taken a shower that morning, and I said, No, no, we got to go in there. You got to scrub. Blah, blah, blah. And he resists taking a shower because he’s a kid. I already showered, and then Mike came, and he was like, stop. He’s like, there’s nothing wrong with what, how your pit smell, that’s just that’s totally normal, that’s natural. You should go into the shower because every you know, we just want you to be clean, but like, it has nothing to do. And he kind of corrected me, and in the moment, I was like, and I still am thinking about it.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  28:28

It’s threading that needle, right? You don’t want him to feel shamed, be nobody, shamed, or find himself discussing the same time. There is sort of like this. What you’re talking about is sort of living in community and like.

 

SuChin Pak  28:41

An awareness and a consideration, but it’s tricky. You’re right when it comes to your body, and remember, I shared with you that my daughter’s class there was an email that had to go out to all the parents that was like, we need to make sure children are showered and clean when they come to school period. Let’s talk about what that means. And I found that to be a very interesting experience to get that email. So I’m like, I’m maybe overly cautious, right? Like, I think as women, as culture, blah, blah, blah, we tend to not center ourselves or always think about someone else’s experience. So anyway, Mike pulled me back, and I think that that’s what works with us. We sort of see things, and we can learn from that. So I had to really, like, sit with myself and think about, like, where this was coming from, and it wasn’t coming from maybe the most healthy place.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  29:44

Well, but it also it comes from our parents too. I was thinking the other day as I was brushing your hair like how painful it was for my mom and to brush my hair. Yeah, it was brutal.

 

SuChin Pak  29:57

Yeah, and God, yeah, French brand. It on Sundays for church. Did it so aggressively, aggressively, so tight, every little thing in place.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  30:08

Yeah, and I rebelled against that, to the point where I remember I was, like, four or five, I had like, this long, beautiful hair, and I rebelled against that. So she cut it like a boy. And like, I was like, I was just fine with me.

 

SuChin Pak  30:22

She was like, oh, you don’t want, you don’t want to play by my roles. Guess what? This is game’s over.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  30:27

This is our relationship period. Yeah, like that. This is, this is patent Kulap, since day one, truly. Well, this is why adversarial. I don’t want, yes, and so as I’m parenting and making this a reparative experience, and trying to shore up, you know, all that I’ve learned in my 44 years. And like, you know, they’re Yeah, all these things are swimming around, like, yes, all of these things, but yeah, we went to the side. I’m so glad we talked about that, though that’s really, I think, super important in those times when she was asleep at night. I do have some add to cues.

 

SuChin Pak  31:06

Great, because you were just like the day was too much. We need to shut down.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  31:12

Yes, again, I’m not speaking to my husband. The headphones, the babies in the sleep pod in the pack and play. We’re lights out to each other. I have earphones in, and I listened to a number of things, but there was two things that I really, really liked and recommend. One is a audiobook of the book The Wedding people, by Allison s botch. And are you familiar? Have you heard of this book? Think it’s a New York Times bestseller, and it’s a fictional novel about a woman who goes to a hotel to commit suicide and finds out that she’s the only one there who was she was booked by mistake, because the entire hotel is booked out by like a wedding celebration, like a week long wedding celebration. This is from from the back of the book, interns, uproariously absurdly funny and devastatingly tender. Allison s box the wedding people, is look at the winding paths we can take to places we never imagined, and the chance encounters it sometimes takes to reroute us. Oh, it’s great. It’s a quick read.

 

SuChin Pak  32:19

It’s Add to Cart.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  32:20

Add to Cart, beach, like, read by the pool, read again. That’s not what I did. I was, at this point, probably washing pajamas and stuff in the tub, or like, water bottles from.

 

SuChin Pak  32:37

Reloading snacks and this little.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  32:40

Yeah, I was doing work, guys, I was resetting for the next day. Yeah, yeah. Had to go get Dawn across at the ABC store so that I could wash things. Yeah, that’s what happened. The other thing I listened to is a podcast, and this was a podcast wreck from my friend Rachel Cantu. Her friend is done the telepathy tapes, and her friend is documentarian and host Kai Dickens. She, along with neuroscientist Dr Diane Hennessy Powell, explored telepathy in non speaking individuals with autism.

 

SuChin Pak  33:17

I didn’t even know this was a thing, did you this was a thing?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  33:21

No.

 

SuChin Pak  33:22

And it talks about this.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  33:23

No one, and that’s exactly it. That is the point of the podcast.

 

SuChin Pak  33:27

Oh my god, I can’t wait.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  33:28

It’s done so well, and so it’s witness mind boggling tests and intimate stories from families around the globe. And this journey challenges mainstream science and invites you to rethink everything you know about communication and consciousness. It’s so highly recommended. At the time I was recording, I’ve listened to four episodes when it launched a couple weeks ago, three came first. So I like binge and I’ve just been waiting for new episodes to come in. So it’s just done so so well. And then if you go to the website, you can see some of the tests they do. It’s nothing short of miraculous. But then it also is just sort of like it’s mind expanding at the thought of what our minds can do. Yes, it’s so good too high recommend.

 

SuChin Pak  34:16

Oh, love, okay.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  34:18

And I just, on a side note, I just wanted to declare something in the I’ve just, I don’t drink a lot, but I’ve just got into my mind. I think maybe knowing the damage I’m going to do in November and December, which, as you guys know, or my is my high season, I’ve decided that I’m going to do sober October.

 

SuChin Pak  34:35

Is this before or after the my ties?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  34:37

After the my ties, my dear Anywho. I just wanted to declare that one, you know, a couple years ago, Sue did no by January, and now I’m gonna do sober October. I’ve done these things in the past, but never on Add to Cart. Just a reminder. We started during the pandemic, and that truly was the most I’ve ever drank, so much so that I. Lost my neck. It really was just my head, and then my shoulders connected by this sort of where you thumb, a thumb, a thumb. I was a thumb. And I look back and I go, wow. And it also, you guys will also remember it coincident when Scott decided that he would make layered cakes, oh.

 

SuChin Pak  35:24

Like a full on cake.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  35:26

Layered cakes, three layers, four layered cakes. And you wonder why I had to go on ozempic When we got back, when we got the stab, when we got the covid Vax, I also have to have continued to stab my stomach with oze epic.

 

SuChin Pak  35:44

And that’s we learn.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  35:45

That we learned Su, I think this is gonna be a two parter we have not even touched into. This is just like Part One and Part Two, like this is, I think that’s what’s happening. That’s all for today’s episode. Make sure you come back next week for part two of our fall travels, you can find all of our Auntie content on Instagram @AddtoCartpod, bye.

 

CREDITS  36:12

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