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Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak

SuChin Pak  00:31

All right, welcome back friends to another episode of ADD TO CART. Now, sorry. No, you know what? That noise is removed from cart I will get to later. So just hold on to your panties. Now this is a show. What do we do here? We talk about things we buy, the things we buy into, and what it says about who we are where we are in life, maybe how old we are. You know, I don’t know, these are things that say things about us. I am SuChin Pak.

Kulap Vilaysack  02:49

And I’m Kulap Vilaysack.

SuChin Pak  02:58

Wait, just not to interrupt you but to interrupt you just for a moment, you know, letting our listeners know that this is our second attempt to try to record this one. Because Merck is in retro Yeah, yeah. And, and fear is high. I been having a heartbeat in my throat for the past two weeks. Santa Barbara almost floated away last night. I mean, things are shaky, but I’m good. I’m floating.

Kulap Vilaysack  03:29

And today I think what we have in our carts is very much going to give you an idea of where we are at right now. So it’s January and we are back in the swing of things and life as Su was saying it just keeps pouring on you.

SuChin Pak  03:48

And yes, you know, we haven’t had a chance to really sit down and check in just the two of us know since holiday craziness. You know 2023 is here. It has it’s arrived. She’s for me she’s like peeking her head out.

Kulap Vilaysack  04:09

We just need to all agree and especially in our business that really the new year, we’re really not starting till mid Jan. Where’s the line on that, come on.

SuChin Pak  04:23

And is mid Jan, like a like a 20th week of the 20th now we’re talking week 14th?

Kulap Vilaysack  04:30

I think it’s week 14, do I think that I myself was even later than that. Yes. But I’m saying the starting point really honest. True. Nobody in this town is back until mid-Jan.

SuChin Pak  04:45

I mean yeah, I completely agree with you but I would say you don’t even have to live in that town. You can live in my town where no one keeps a calendar and I’m looking at a late Jan early Feb. I want Mercury just fully in my rearview mirror. I need to wrap up the end of the year which is now and dive into the new year. Just with optimism and hope.

Kulap Vilaysack  05:16

Anyway so what I’m hearing is you’re on a Lunar New Year’s schedule.

SuChin Pak  05:23

I say this tip every year if you fucked up the holidays, don’t worry. It celebrate Lunar New Year, send out your gifts now. I mean be cool. Be modern. Doesn’t even matter if you’re Asian you know just be like I am a global, I’m a global citizen. Give you my gift now.

Kulap Vilaysack  05:42

Yeah, year of the rabbit. I’ll be quick then. Let’s get into it. What I have removed from cart.

SuChin Pak  05:55

Oh, we’re starting with the removed.

Kulap Vilaysack  05:57

Well, yeah, in the storytelling of it all. I’m removing from cart Christmas. The last of it. The last of it. The exterior lights came down on January 6th, a harrowing anniversary for our nation. And also doubly sad because that’s when my exterior lights came down. And you know, most of my stuff CEU was down by New Year’s Eve. And it fit. Yes, now it was either one to make it fit, no.

SuChin Pak  06:29

No, it wasn’t so those giant three by three diameter ornaments that sat on your front door.

Kulap Vilaysack  06:40

They’re not under the house where everything else is they are in the garage where they will live forever. They are in big boxes in the garage. And it’s not out of sight out of mind. It is always in sight.

SuChin Pak  07:02

Okay, all right. Wow. Remove from cart Christmas. I’ve removed partial, but I’m still really to lighten up that village baby.

Kulap Vilaysack  07:14

If you need it. Look, you make the rules. You make the rules. And if you need that, if you need that Heike, thought you say to. All the other young TikTokers are about it. And you need that little bit, then that’s important for me this year. I just had […] my New Year’s Eve that was just my choice. I don’t think there’s a hard and fast rule. Because of course I’m the person who says start putting stuff up November, to be honest. Let’s be honest, if I hadn’t had a baby it would have been up earlier. And so this is my transition to just kind of I just really want to share with you just a little bit about our epic Christmas day in the Ackerman household and I thought you would get a real kick if I shared with you the schedule for […]

SuChin Pak  08:21

You have a schedule for Christmas Day?

Kulap Vilaysack  08:25

Honey, every sort of like Thanksgiving every, every year but if you want I’d share with you.

SuChin Pak  08:33

Please put me on this list. Does this go out to everyone was just for you?

Kulap Vilaysack  08:39

It’s for me but it is posted in the in the kitchen, it is posted in the kitchen, I like literally crossed it out. You can see what’s get your eyes on.

SuChin Pak  08:57

It’s a Google Doc. Christmas scheduled 2022.

Kulap Vilaysack  09:03

Thank you. She’s laughing you guys. She’s laughing and this again I knew was going to illuminate perhaps.

SuChin Pak  09:14

Oh my god. Tell the people sock is on the other foot. You’re insane. You guys 11:30 set up boards.

Kulap Vilaysack  09:33

Make a beautiful board. I hope you know that about me everyone. If you’re following me at @IamKulap. You’re seeing my boards.

SuChin Pak  09:41

Have you pre table scaped, like the night before. So everything was set?

Kulap Vilaysack  09:46

It was two nights before the […]

SuChin Pak  09:49

12PM guests arrival.

Kulap Vilaysack  09:52

That’s when the apps are laid out.

SuChin Pak  09:55

And generally because this happens every year and this schedule goes up. People know in your family arrive, arrive on time. We arrived for apps like we were on schedule like nobody’s, nobody’s disregarding the schedule.

Kulap Vilaysack  10:10

No, I account for people being like 30 minutes late for whatever right?

SuChin Pak  10:16

Within that 30 minute window. That’s right. Oh, we got 12:30 open presents.

Kulap Vilaysack  10:25

Start with opening presents. Set the mood. What we do is everybody is given a presents to open at the same time so we can move things along.

SuChin Pak  10:41

And who, who decides like it? Like, are you do you hand out each person’s present? And then they open and then you go back and you get the second round?

Kulap Vilaysack  10:54

It’s whoever’s wearing the Santa hat. This year, I was wearing the Santa hat because it was just easier that way. And so yeah, so it’s like everyone has so everyone, we just do rounds of people opening a present basically. Does that make sense? So it’s not like individuals opening okay. I want to make sure that was clear.

SuChin Pak  11:10

So we’re doing it all at once. Which is why you have time at 1:15 to pull the prime rib out of the fridge.

Kulap Vilaysack  11:22

That’s right. It’s got to get into room temp. We needed at room temp.

SuChin Pak  11:27

Two o’clock, guys. We have games.

Kulap Vilaysack  11:32

The games are my sister in law. Jamie Ackerman is the games master. She’s in charge of games. And it’s usually like so she I think the first game we did this year is the saran wrap ball. Have we discussed this on the show? No. It’s basically you create a ball with saran wrap. And in each layer, you put gift cards and chopstick and you make it you create a big ball around that. And the game is one person has oven mitts, and they try to tear into the saran wrap ball to get these prizes while the person next to them has dice. And they’re rolling it until they have doubles and so your turn ends when that person has doubles and it goes around and around and around. And what it ends up being is just people screaming. She got the chipotle card.

SuChin Pak  12:40

Is this a game, first of all genius is this a game that is made up or is this that you guys?

Kulap Vilaysack  12:48

My mother in law heard about it, maybe read about it and like I don’t know where through church or something like that. And when my mother in law first brought it to us hers was like there was Theraflu there was like Motrin travel she basically went to like the Travel section and just like got stuck there drugstore. Yeah, and then like maybe one gift card but when my sister Jamie she just takes it up this like huge notch show. It’s like it’s like so many types of gift cards. It’s like Bed Bath and Beyond small travel size like anti-back fluid and like in and out and Target gift cards. So like she just takes it up to this like other place.

Kulap Vilaysack  13:36

It is so fun. And it’s such a like all ages kind of thing.

SuChin Pak  13:41

Everyone can participate. Cuz you need a game that the oldies can participate the young ones and oh my god, that’s so fun. Well, but at three o’clock you have to say hold on, guys just pause on the oven mitts because you’re preheating the oven to cook with prime rib.

Kulap Vilaysack  13:57

That’s what this is like what I have to do. This is sort of like my schedule, but they’re still playing.

SuChin Pak  14:03

That’s right. Right but you have to pause.

Kulap Vilaysack  14:05

And so people who can know that I’m just heating the primary but I’m not cooking it otherwise it would take way longer to sell you know I that you otherwise you’re thinking that I’m having just a hunk of rare meat. No, I’m just warming it up, back up again. And while I’m doing that they’re playing a game with candy canes. And so it’s a big Jamie has a bunch of normal sized candy canes and then she’s purchased these sort of like plastic candy canes and you pick one candy cane you put in your mouth and you have to grab pick up as many candy canes as you can with a candy cane in your mouth and put it in another bowl. And it’s one point for a normal candy cane and two points if you get the plastic ones that are smaller and harder to grab. So there’s an element of humiliation of and your time okay. Think it’s like a minute, how much can you do it in a minute. So you know, nobody looks cool while doing this. It’s like bobbing for candy cane. So that’s really what the game is. And then Jamie has prizes, whoever wins around, she has like some prizes. And her prizes this time. We’re she found this like holiday spam, which did you know, that was like holiday flavored spam? And everybody wanted that. And then like a gift card. She’s creating the gift cards. So I mean, I don’t know if it tasted good. But you know, that was one of it. And so I think we did like two rounds of that.

SuChin Pak  15:44

And while that’s going on, you have to step out just for a moment. Hostess with the moistest to preheat the oven and cook the lobster mac.

Kulap Vilaysack  15:54

This was frozen. I got it from gold belly and then so it’s really just heating it. And just delicious.

SuChin Pak  16:00

Oh my god, but so decadent. Prime Rib lobster mac what else is on the menu, guys? Well, cornbread.

Kulap Vilaysack  16:06

That’s right. I made cornbread and iron skillet. And my mom made decadent mashed potatoes like my mom like I looked at it I was like that’s too much liquid mom. Because she adds, so there’s butter. There is half and half and heavy whipping cream. It’s decadent.

SuChin Pak  16:32

It’s a milkshake.

Kulap Vilaysack  16:34

It’s a milkshake. But I really was like Mom, that’s too much. And then Gosh darn it. It was perfect and fluffy. It was maybe more of a potato puree.

SuChin Pak  16:45

But delicious.

Kulap Vilaysack  16:47

Then she made a got some garlic green beans in mom. She goes she’s got a heavy hand with that garlic, heavy hand. So all the people are playing games and then I was like guys, can walked the dogs. There were six dogs. If you guys will recall six dogs in the house. The kids go out they walk the dogs while they’re walking the dogs. My friend Rita. She doesn’t eat meat. So we’re making her salmon. And then I’m warming up the umami gravy the nom nom paleo umami gravy recipe that I made the night before. So at 5pm Dinner’s ready. Right on time. All our people are ahead like Emy, like up. She’s eating. She’s being passed around and she’s napping. And then people are waiting for her to wake up. And she’s just she had two outfit changes. And she’s a champ. Absolutely. She loves people. Now, did she sleep that much the night? That night? Tough. She was overstimulated. But that was not my problem.

SuChin Pak  17:50

That’s Christmas. That’s the rest of your life. And so it’s going down.

Kulap Vilaysack  17:57

Now see what’s happening at 6:30?

SuChin Pak  18:00

6:30 is a cookie judging.

Kulap Vilaysack  18:02

No, I feel that I’ve described this to you. Did you know that I just, I started a new tradition in the Aukerman household know is that we were gonna do a blind cookie judging. So not exactly like British Bake Off, in that it’s a blind judging. But we don’t have to make the same thing. Like we didn’t have to make the same recipe. But how many different entries? There was seven different entries, seven different entries. And it was my mother in law. Linda Aukerman, who was a master baker, and my sister in law, Jamie, the GamesMaster that I mentioned before, they were the judges and then Scott couldn’t make a cookie. So then he jumped in to be a judge. And it was one, I did. I didn’t want to, I said to my sister. Like it’s not great if I win. Like I’m here. I want to be competitive. I want to be competitive and I wasn’t guaranteed that I would win because one of the people is like a chef influencer and is an amazing baker. But he tried to do something left field and tied for last. And that paved the way for my win. Because I don’t know if you heard of the viral New York Times recipe. Oh, Kochi Jiang, it went viral.

SuChin Pak  19:37


Kulap Vilaysack  19:38

spicy red bean pepper paste. So he saw that P I didn’t try that recipe but I saw it spoken about so then he started he’d made a cookie with like our sort of red paste that has like fermented fish in it, which is called […]. And so he did his version.

SuChin Pak  19:58

Eric Kim, of course, of course. It’s Eric Kim.

Kulap Vilaysack  20:01

Oh, that’s your dude.

SuChin Pak  20:02

That’s he’s the, I mean, he’s the inspiration and the source of everything delicious these days.

SuChin Pak  20:08

Did you taste it?

Kulap Vilaysack  20:08

Okay, this wasn’t delicious and it was so funny because again like saying he was like competed on like rat in the kitchen like actual shows on you know, like he’s very he’s an amazing cook. But he tried he took his huge swing knowing that White people are judging by the way. Come on. I mean, this was all discussed this all discuss amongst the people who are going to enter. And Scott said it was the one cookie that he should have spit out and that if his mom hadn’t rated it a little higher than it should have and deserves to be last. Scott’s White, you know? Yeah, who knows?

Kulap Vilaysack  20:12

I didn’t like it at all. But I do a video of my mom enjoying it.

SuChin Pak  21:03

Your mom’s like, ooh, I think it’s a sugar ice cookie.

Kulap Vilaysack  21:07

I’m gonna share that video so that we got to post that video is very funny. But I yeah, I ended up winning, you know. And I was trying to I mean, the prize was a trophy that I had made that and $200.

SuChin Pak  21:26

Yeah, look at you, partridge in a pear tree. Sitting there all cozy comfy. Hey. I didn’t ask for it. But here I am winning.

Kulap Vilaysack  21:38

I mean, I think you saw my speech that I gave. It wasn’t humble. But you know, okay, perfect. Can’t be perfect. You know?

SuChin Pak  21:54

I mean, I cannot believe that you are sharing the schedule. Now versus last the end of last year. I don’t know what you were thinking. This is one of the kookiest things. Am I surprised? I mean, kind of.

Kulap Vilaysack  22:12

So I share the schedule on my servers every year. Now everyone is shocked. Everybody’s shocked. But it’s something that you because I think it’s in the midst that everyone else is so busy. Everyone else is so busy so that they clock and go That’s fucking weird. But in the cold bright day of you know, January, mid January, it’s shocking, I understand. It’s like a cold dip. You know, because you don’t have all the distractions of the holidays. Now you can really see.

SuChin Pak  22:43

We see it for what it is, it’s like you get through all the makeup and the and the hairspray and you want to just see right her for who she is. And this is her in cold daylight.

Kulap Vilaysack  22:56

I do this for every sort of if I have like you have.

SuChin Pak  23:00

You have to, because there’s too many people and there’s too many things going on like you’ve got, you’ve got this going down like an MTV Spring Break schedule. Do you know what I mean? Like, there’s games, there’s competitions, there’s a countdown, you know, Mariah Carey is coming in with ice cream cards, like everybody else is like, I mean, I guess we do presents, maybe we eat and like watch something, you know. So if you want to play at this level, you know, you need to have a schedule. So I understand it from this point of view. But this is bonkers.

Kulap Vilaysack  23:41

I accept it. I take that feedback.

SuChin Pak  23:43

I may incorporate a few of those in my 2023 Christmas at you know, add that to cart.

Kulap Vilaysack  23:50

Look. It’s game day for me guys. It’s the season. This is my Super Bowl. This is what we built up. You know, since October, we were building up to this. Getting I was just gonna like not show up on the day. Like, isn’t that crazier? Doesn’t that make less sense? What are we doing?

SuChin Pak  24:13

You’re right. I sit corrected with tears in my eyes. Remorse. You know, I’m sorry.

Kulap Vilaysack  24:21

If I want to create more memory SuChin Pak, oh, I want to create new traditions. I got it, you know, gotta have these guiding posts, okay. Su, it’s time for you to talk

SuChin Pak  26:33

so what I did was I did you know I did, here’s what I’m adding to cart here’s what I’m wearing watching who I’m following and what I’m doing. Wear, watch, follow, do. I think I’m gonna move through this quick. Okay, adding to cart under the wear category if you’ll click on that is a I don’t know if you’ve heard of this brand. I don’t know how I make probably Instagram I’m not sure it’s called Joey baby. And these are handmade necklaces. And the one I got it’s called the fear necklace. But it is 18 karat gold plated and freshwater pearls. And I got this for my Zoey baby. And you can customize a little saying on there her name or something like that. And so I put her name and I put love and she opened it and I mean she hasn’t taken it off since you know I mean just a gal about town wearing a freshwater pearl custom zoey necklace. There’s so high quality. The necklaces are hefty IDM them if you want them in different lengths, longer or shorter, she’ll do it. They come in these cute little boxes. It’s $59 but they often go on sale I think I got mine at half price on you know Black Friday. Such a good deal. I ended up doing it for I did a little baby shower for one of my dear friends Ryan and Adam and with the co-hosts and so I thought it would be fun to get us all matching necklaces with our group chat name I’m not going to share the group chat name because it’s inappropriate but and so I had that on the pearl necklace and they just loved it and I don’t know I love when I find little brands that are doing such good work.

Kulap Vilaysack  29:47

Tremendous SuChin Pak.

SuChin Pak  29:49

You’re gonna be coming back to this. I mean it’s I think it’s also a really great one for a tween a teen you never know what to get, you know in that age. Strange like you’re like I’m not gonna buy clothes for my niece who’s? I don’t even know where I would go to find like her clothes.

Kulap Vilaysack  30:09

Why humiliate yourself?

SuChin Pak  30:10

They went to the store including anthropology. Maybe I don’t know if you’ve been in there. Now they’re shopping from who knows what threat up skate up cupcake you know. What I’m watching I have been trying to watch things with my parents and my kids, you know, hard that is. For a lot of nature documentaries. You know, we do a lot of Nat Geo in the house when they come over. But this old enough on Netflix, it doesn’t matter if you speak English, it doesn’t matter. If you don’t, it doesn’t matter if you’re eight years old, or 88 years old. Something about watching little Japanese kids around the age of four, run adult errands, and succeed and fail but ultimately win is a joy. I mean, we watch this we laugh. We narrate you know my kids do the voices of the kids. Oh, no, I forgot my little you know, I forgot the burdock. It broke. I gotta go back and get the cold medicine. You know, they do all that my parents are laughing so we’re watching a lot of that. Now, are you following Isaac Mizrahi?

Kulap Vilaysack  31:38

I’m not I guess I need to.

SuChin Pak  31:40

There are gonna be people listening to this show that don’t know who Isaac Mizrahi is, and I’m sorry. And I’m sorry for you. Tiffany, do you know who Isaac Mizrahi is? Okay, Tiffany. Isaac Mizrahi is of the time of the supermodels. Do you know who like Linda Vangelista and Naomi Campbell and Shalom. Do you know who these women are? I mean, it’s the time of the Claudia Schiffer. When fashion was like 90s you know, it was George Michael. It was I mean, it was just a time and an era and Isaac Misrahi. He was like right in the middle of it. He is so quintessentially New York of that era still lives in New York diehard. And so I love a corner of Instagram. And I’ve shared other follows where it’s a person of my age or older. And to watch how they live their lives, how they sort of move in the world is inspiring. It’s funny. He’s such a comedian, even though he’s a fashion designer. He’s such a storyteller and a comedian. And he’ll do his Instagram reels about things he loves to cook in his kitchen. Appliances. He’s packing a bag. Sometimes he’s just in bed, marveling at the fact that he got through the holidays, he doesn’t even matter. He’s old, old world, New York. You know what I mean? He’s nostalgia, but there’s something about him that makes me just so happy and joyful. And it’s just good, clean, fun. I love it. I highly recommend an Isaac Mizrahi follow and he’s just an icon. What I’m doing is a new book. And this is an activity book called this is what I eat by a friend and a friend of this pod. Her name is Elisa Socolow. And she just came out with this book called, this is what I eat fun activities for mindful eating for kids. It’s so cute. And it’s just a workbook. It has all these fun activities and you can draw on it and there’s games and there’s questions everything from you know, what’s your favorite meal? My go to after school snack dinner at my house always starts with. Now the whole thing about this book that I absolutely love is and I’ve shared this. Kai is not a great eater. And so I think that the way I’ve been approaching him, which is through threats, through shame, and guilt. I mean, you know what I mean.

Kulap Vilaysack  35:03

Classic moves.

SuChin Pak  35:07

Top three, shame, threats and guilt. What else is there? Are there other tools in the arsenal? Did not my mother vow to pack her bags and leave my house when I wouldn’t force feed him as a child. Like she was like, that was the last straw. She couldn’t take it anymore. And she was like, I’m leaving here if you don’t make him eat, what I’ve cooked so I’ve approached his eating with those things of like, you know, if you don’t, if you don’t eat your vegetables, and that’s it no Minecraft time, or I guess we’re not traveling anywhere. Because guess what? Not everywhere has French fries. You know what I’m talking about like that? By the way, asked me how that’s going.

Kulap Vilaysack  36:00

I’m just curious, how is that going?

SuChin Pak  36:03

This child has never eaten a raw vegetable in his life.

Kulap Vilaysack  36:14

Carrot usually is the thing.

SuChin Pak  36:16

A carrot stick and they make them into the column baby baby carrots for a reason. Not the easiest things to eat. But he won’t do it. And I’m slowly beginning to realize with the help of this activity book, maybe what I’m doing is not the way and the way that I’m approaching this now is number one, changing the story. The story is no longer my son is not a good eater. Taking that phrase out of the vocabulary, bringing that energy out. I want to take this that that story out of his head. He’s so self-conscious about it now, because he’s at that age where he’s going to friends’ houses and he gets really nervous if it’s around mealtime, because he’ll be like, No, you have to pick me up before they have dinner. I don’t want to say no, you know what him he doesn’t wanna be rude. And, and so it’s now created this big thing. And he has a story of I am not a good eater. And that’s fucked up. And I did that. So let’s undo that. Okay. And then something like this was kind of inspiring, because it’s like you do eat, you do eat a lot of great things. You love to eat a lot of things. Let’s focus on that. Let’s make it less heavy. Let’s not focus on what you’re not eating. Let’s focus on what you love to eat. And so I just think that this kind of activity book is so great for young kids because it creates a different narrative around food and mealtime. And for some parents like myself is always been really stressful.

SuChin Pak  39:16

All right, well, speaking of kids, my kid is in her third month SuChin Pak oh here or we are done with the fourth trimester and she is officially out of newborn status and into infant. She’s an infant at this time.

SuChin Pak  41:01

Wait, so is she 100 days?

Kulap Vilaysack  41:05

SuChin, why are you asking me to do math right now?

SuChin Pak  41:07

Because well, you don’t have to do math. But you know, 100 days is a very significant time of celebration for babies in Korea. There’s 100 Day celebration, okay, it’s a really big one. And it is the day that the baby can be seen in public by other people. Now with the theory, I’m sure long ago when the infant mortality rate maybe was higher. Babies were not to be seen by anyone outside of the family until they were 100 days old and 100 days meant like this baby. You know gonna live this survive, it’s gonna survive. And so you do a huge party like some people go full out like wedding kind of, you know, party. So anyway, um, I think she’s right around there.

Kulap Vilaysack  41:55

So this is getting close. Yeah, like Yeah, yeah. So Greg, we’re pretty close. And so I just also I always want to share you know, some of my go to things that I love that Emmys you know, I’m putting on me I’m using on for me, and one of the things is actually something that you gifted me off my registry, which is the copper Pearl bandanas. And what these are, are, are there they’re basically bibs. That look like bandanas, but it’s just perfect cuz she’s drooling a lot. So yeah, let’s get up a little a little bit of milk that might trip a little but it’s right now. I mean, I think she’s starting to teeth, we are on the early days of teething is my belief SuChin I’m not seeing anything yet. But we’re in the early days.

SuChin Pak  42:47

First of all, I’m sure you can find this on callups Amazon storefront. And is there anything cuter than a small human wearing a bandana? Just a bunch of babies and bandanas

Kulap Vilaysack  43:06

You know at me if it’s different. The other tool that Sue I don’t know if it was around when you were babying. But are you aware of the UI bear the better booger tool?

SuChin Pak  43:36

What is this? I was never able to get snot out of my child’s nose

Kulap Vilaysack  43:41

I prefer this tool which I think you’ll recognize more of east Asian ways. That so instead of the bulb aspirators that I have all I’ve to it. I just am not getting what I need to get. And I need a safe thing to pick and to pull. And that’s what this […] tool. And I love it so much that I have one upstairs and one that one in her room and one in her diaper caddy Of course, I hyperlinked this diaper caddy in case you’re like Ku, what kind of diaper caddy do you have? Oh, is it a beautiful neutral canvas one with a brown leather handle? Yes, it is. Thanks for asking.

Kulap Vilaysack  44:14

And so you’re just picking her nose.

Kulap Vilaysack  44:35

I look at her and I go looks like I need to harvest a boogie. Let me do it. Mommy’s gonna get the […] there.

SuChin Pak  44:45

By the way, I don’t know when it stops because it hasn’t stopped for me yet. I mean, when you have a child, the amount of picking and sniffing and I just have to grab Sophia just get my thighs around her and just sniff her ear to make sure everything’s good isn’t anything no and often it’s not and I’m like, Nope, I need to get in there and she squirms but what she’s still got the thigh hold, you got a thigh hold her, and I put a, you know, Netflix show on and then I just go to town and cleaning that year. It’s just something about, right. It’s an it’s an it’s an animal instinct gotta groom and sniff and pick at your child.

Kulap Vilaysack  45:37

Also yourself, because yeah, am I enjoying like, moisturizing my child, you know, it’s like a little bit uh, you know, a little bit for me a little bit for you.

SuChin Pak  45:47

Every day, everyone’s getting slipped up.

Kulap Vilaysack  45:50

That’s right. You know, SuChin, I heard you earlier mentioned my Amazon storefront. And I just want to give you some updates, guys, it’s a living breathing much like my Google Docs entity.

SuChin Pak  46:04

Like we said, when we talked about this, guess what, we’re restocking every week, every day. I mean, the merchandise is fresh.

Kulap Vilaysack  46:14

I try to keep it fresh. It’s yeah, it has replaced for me the baby registry? Yeah, because I love taking things out adding things in arranging things.

SuChin Pak  46:30

Post holidays now I’ve been adding things but now I gotta rearrange.

Kulap Vilaysack  46:33

Oh no, yeah, you know, I was I was on the toilet earlier I’m like taking off ornaments. Take em change and how things look and I’ve updated guys I’m new lists of kitchen essentials now. SuChin inspired me when she made me realize about Shopbop so then this bitch has a new category called LFG let’s fucking go pre loved Lux goods all that is in that category are bags.

SuChin Pak  47:03

gotta up my titles. You know what I mean? Like I kind of dipped in but now you’re like, Oh no, these titles got to really, really tell you what you’re about to click into go on.

Kulap Vilaysack  47:15

This Su, this storefront is an expression of myself.

SuChin Pak  47:22

And of our love. I think of you and I think of anyone that’s going to the storefronts and I think of them and I think what, what could they want?

Kulap Vilaysack  47:36

Now, one of my besties June Diane Raphael, she set up her own storefront.

SuChin Pak  47:43

Let me tell you, I did not walk I ran. When I saw that post on her birthday. I said, excuse me. And I ran to that storefront. click click click.

Kulap Vilaysack  47:53

That’s right. The reason any of us have storefronts, just to remind everybody is Just St. Claire. And in a brunch with ladies. She brought it up again. We made fun of her. We made fun of her. And then we followed her. And that’s the Just St. Claire story.

SuChin Pak  48:13

I have credit cards because of Just St. Claire. I have I’ve changed I have altered the way that I go into my day which we’ll get into in other episodes because of Just St. Claire. I mean I she has impacted my life in fundamental ways.

Kulap Vilaysack  48:31

Yeah, she’s a guiding she’s a guiding light

SuChin Pak  48:37

Well, let me tell you remove from cart really quickly. The reason I made that weird noise up at the front is because God dang it. There’s something wrong with my teeth again, I gotta go tomorrow. This is my 40s removed from cart my teeth. Okay, but I’m not going to get into it. Remove from cart, gluten, gluten, dairy sugar. Let me talk to you about gluten, dairy, sugar adult before you roll your eyes before you settle into a heavy side before you hit fast forward. For those of you dealing with chronic health things, I mean, it could be anything I’m dealing with migraines, it could be bladder issues, it could be sleep, it could be skin, whatever. You go to any nutritionist any doctor any place that deals with this kind of stuff in a holistic way. And one of the first things I’ll tell you is cut out gluten dairy sugar. After you cut out gluten, dairy sugar, then we have a baseline of what it is. Now I’m not going to go all three. What I decided to do just on my own. With these migraines, I was like, I’m going to cut out the one thing out of this gluten dairy sugar that I crave the most. And that is breads, pastas, pastries, muffins, bagels, gluten, and so I’ve cut out gluten now for probably three months within the first two weeks, and I hate myself for even saying this, 80% of my migraine symptoms have disappeared.

Kulap Vilaysack  50:20

She agrees she can’t believe what you’re saying.

SuChin Pak  50:22

No, she can’t believe anything. And I it’s just I haven’t cut out dairy and I haven’t cut out sugar. I don’t know if I am because I’m seeing such improvements from not eating gluten.

Kulap Vilaysack  50:31

Sorry. So three months. It’s been three months?

SuChin Pak  50:33

Yeah, but I think two weeks in I was like, wait.

Kulap Vilaysack  50:39

That means you didn’t have any of this during the holidays, which is like all about that stuff . I’m so proud of you.

SuChin Pak  50:52

But the kicker the thing that kept me on this track, my energy level.

Kulap Vilaysack  50:59

Case closed.

SuChin Pak  51:02

I’m not an energy level kind of gal. And I’m telling you here sleepwalking through the day. But without this I’m not saying that I’m running marathons. But I’m saying that there is a huge difference between what I was before and the amount of focus and energy that I’ve had, especially in the afternoons when you know it would dip and you know, I love to have a little afternoon muffin. I mean, who doesn’t want a crumbly blueberry afternoon muffin? It’s just, we’re just like an afternoon chocolate. You know, I pick up my girl at school and we go to […] in town and we get a chocolate […] one for me one for you. Cheers. And we eat it in the car and we’re not doing that.

Kulap Vilaysack  52:00

So you say you’ve risen a grade? Are we at a b minus life now?

SuChin Pak  52:08

Yes. I mean, awful. Fucking great. Imagine if you were in school. And all you had to do was stop eating chocolate croissants, and the teacher would give you a full grade improvement. That’s all I’m saying. Anyway. I am not a doctor. Your health is not my problem. I just put this out there.

Kulap Vilaysack  52:44

Your health is not my problem.

SuChin Pak  52:50

Not taking that on. But I’m just putting it out there.

Kulap Vilaysack  52:54

I’m happy for you. Well, before we go to I forgot I needed to bring something up with Emy. Which is you’re the one who told me about yoga sleep. I mean, the hush the travel sound machine that you’ve taken it to Paris. It is my necessary travel with me. Right? The one place that we take her is to the doctor’s office. Otherwise, we’re walking around the neighborhood. And I have that thing on the entire time. But the game changing product that I use multiple times a day for naps. And then to get her down at night is the duet. And so this is like a it is a soft nightlight with 30 sound options. White Noise, Pink Noise, Brown noise fan sounds nature sounds. And it is like I got I put on my registry. One that’s way more expensive. And I tried it and it just didn’t like, you know, when you’re with a baby, it’s like if it’s not gonna work immediately, then you’re out. And this Su like, honestly, you should get it for you.

SuChin Pak  54:11

None of this is just for babes. There’s four hushes that live in suitcases in my house. Everyone hushes on the road, you know, so I can’t this duet sound. I haven’t even dived into this. But I love that you can do all these things. And so he’s been getting into doing nighttime meditations because she’s had been having a little bit more anxiety at night.

Kulap Vilaysack  54:37

I think I’m gonna have to get one of these our friends at yoga sleep have given us an exclusive 25% savings on hush and duet sound machines at You just have to use a code don’t we love a code friends give codes and our code is Add to Cart.

SuChin Pak  54:53

You’re welcome.

Kulap Vilaysack  54:59

Well that does it for another episode and as much as the products may change each week one thing always remains the same that our carts are but mere reflections of ourselves.

SuChin Pak  55:11

And if that wasn’t the most obvious statement we have made today then I don’t know what it is. Check out the show notes for links to everything we talked about. Head to our Instagram page where you’ll find the links to all this stuff plus our Amazon store fronts at @AddToCartPod for more, from Ku and I.

Kulap Vilaysack  55:32

Okay, we’ll see you soon bye bye.

CREDITS  55:38

There’s more add to cart with Lemonada Premium, you’ll get access to all of it on his premium content including our premium episode where we look at Reddit, r/slashamitheasshole, and weigh in with our producer Claire Jones. Subscribe now in Apple podcast right where you listen to the show. ADD TO CART is a production of Lemonada Media. Our producer is Claire Jones and our mix is by Ivan Kuraev and Veronica Rodriguez. The music is by Wasahhbii and produced by La Made It and Oh So Familiar with additional music by APM music. Executive producers are Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak, Jessica Cordova Kramer and Stephanie Wittels Wachs. Be sure to check out all the items we mentioned today on our Instagram at @AddToCartPod. Also, please take a moment to rate, review, and subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcast.

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