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Gift Giving with MoMA Design Store

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Carters, we are bringing in professional shopping help for the holidays. If you’re savvy like Auntie Su, you know museum gift shops are where the best presents are at. And the Museum of Modern Art’s gift shop is art unto itself. Chay Costello is MoMA Retail’s Associate Director of Merchandising and Product Development and she has recommendations for everyone – from the coworker/acquaintance to the person who has everything. Open your Notes app, because you need to get allllll of this down.

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Transcript

SPEAKERS

Kulap Vilaysack, Chay Costello, SuChin Pak

Kulap Vilaysack  01:18

Carters, welcome back when we said that we were going to be working extra hard for you this season, we meant it. And today we have a special gift.

 

SuChin Pak  01:26

Listeners, we have brought in professional help here for the holiday season. On today’s Fridays, extra sowed, and this week, we are bringing you someone who is going to check all the boxes on your wish list. It’s frankly, honestly, a partnership that just makes so much sense. Ku, it’s like the world is right again. Do you know what I mean?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  01:49

And don’t we need it to be honey, Sweeties, my sweet baby, where we make it right. This is where we make it right. And two, I think we all know how much you specifically love a museum gift shop. So our guest today is the Associate Director of merchandising and product development at MoMA retail. Please add to cart, Chay Costello.

 

SuChin Pak  02:15

We’re so excited to have you here on our show. As Ku says, we like to joke here. I like to start every museum trip first at the gift store. You know, that’s not the traditional way I get it, but I like to start there and then work my way to the front.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  02:33

Sometimes she doesn’t make it to the I didn’t want to say that.

 

SuChin Pak  02:38

I’ll say it. We’re keeping it real here today, I have been known to just hit a store, and sometimes I get a real sense of the museum just from that. I mean, is that so wrong?

 

Chay Costello  02:51

Let’s let her talk. We have many customers who love visiting our website. We have a store in Soho, so MoMA design store really comes out of the museum’s heritage in defining what good design was in mid century. So it’s not just about the memento that you have of your visit to the museum. It’s about a commitment to good design where you know when you come to the store you’re going to find something unique and special that you can’t find anywhere else. So yes, it’s okay to just visit MoMA design store and not necessarily taking the exhibit. So we have some fantastic ones on view right now.

 

SuChin Pak  03:26

Okay, good, see, she said it.

 

Chay Costello  03:28

She said it now. We’re all relaxed. We’ll be who we are. I go to the museum.

 

SuChin Pak  03:32

Chay, I want you to know that I do it all, but we can be whatever, glad we were born to be an.

 

SuChin Pak  03:37

A plus student. I always say, so, okay, Chay, before we get into the carts and all of the good stuff, this, to me, sounds like a dream job. And so I just want to know, how did you get a dream job like this? Where did you get your start? And like, what is it that you do at the MoMA design store?

 

Chay Costello  04:00

I’ve worked at MoMA for 25 years, all of my professional life. So I began in product development, which is one of the most exciting areas to work in, because really, we’re making the products that we sell, and we work so closely with our curator, so it’s kind of a hybrid of culture and commerce. In fact, it was the first museum in the world to have a curatorial department dedicated to modern architecture and design. So back in the 1930s you’d go to MOMA, and yes, you would see paintings and sculpture and traditional media, but you would also see things like industrial objects or Tupperware, these useful everyday things with the mission to sharing them with as many people as possible. And that’s really where monk design store is born. Of that heritage.

 

SuChin Pak  04:48

There’s so many things about gift giving that we talk about on this show that it has to be personal and thoughtful, but something about this season is about the story. You know, it’s about the whole it’s about so the box that comes in, it’s about why you know, why you chose it, and where you got it from.

 

Chay Costello  05:10

Folks who shop at MoMA design store really care about that behind the scenes story. And when we’re thinking about our assortment and what we’re going to bring in, we’re thinking about who’s buying it, but also who they’re buying it for and what they’re trying to express. A great example of that are pieces of time objects, and this is something that you would buy for somebody who’s really special to you. We discovered them on a trip to Korea. We were in Seoul, and we found this design studio where they would get beautiful flowers and botanicals. And they created this way of arranging these floral designs and then encapsulated them in like a secret, you know, solution in a glass globe. And it just stays that way. And it’s a way for someone to have this beautiful, little natural creation in their home.

 

SuChin Pak  05:55

Uh oh.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  05:57

Can I know? Yeah, feeling the same thing you are SuChin, I’m sold.

 

SuChin Pak  06:02

I have armpit chills. Do you know what I mean when it just travels right into your soul?

 

Chay Costello  06:08

Wow.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  06:08

I’ve never heard that term, SuChin. Yeah, I get the feeling, yeah I know.

 

SuChin Pak  06:12

We all understand. Okay, let’s get into it, because we’re already skirting around these this cart.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  06:18

Yeah, okay, we don’t anymore.

 

SuChin Pak  06:21

Chay, so tell me, what are your top picks from the MoMA design stores holiday collection like, if you were going to be like this, this, in my opinion, is going to make you very happy. What would those items be?

 

Chay Costello  06:35

Yeah, one of the projects I worked on that was launched this fall holiday season that is very near and dear into my heart is the champion archive collection. So champion, you know, the brand that does like athletic wear and hoodies, and I really got the opportunity to take a deep dive into their history and archives. So it’s really looking at these iconic pieces of fashion that are almost design objects, because there’s so much a part of our everyday life. And champion was the first to do so many things. Yes, it was the first to do the hoodie, but it was also the first to do like the mesh shirts, athletic shirts and packable rain jackets. And also the sports bra, actually, which is very exciting. Yeah, the sports bra, I think it was invented in 1976 do you know the whole story of the sports bra?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  07:24

No.

 

Chay Costello  07:24

Oh, the best story ever. It’s like a little bit of a tangent, but I’ll go there. So it was these there was this woman, Lisa Lindahl, who took up jogging and she couldn’t find a good bra in the 1970s so she had a friend, Polly Smith, who was a costume designer and for the theater. And she was like, we have to rig up something. I need some support while I’m jogging. And they actually took two jock straps and sewed them together, and that was the first sports bra. And then it became the jog bra. And if you want to go down like a fun rabbit hole, look up early, like, ads for, like, all the women like jogging. And they’re like, kind of like 1970s and 80s outfits. And then eventually, like, champion Haynes took over the brand, so now it’s part of their umbrella brand. So I got to see, like, the first jog brand. It’s packaging. I got to interview Lisa Linda once in a panel discussion too, which was so, like, it was, like, definitely a life, you know […]

 

Kulap Vilaysack  08:21

I actually may start calling my sports bra jog bra from now on.

 

Chay Costello  08:26

Let’s bring the tour back. Yeah, no, well, it’d be very much on trend, because everything is very nostalgia based these days. And we sort of took that inspiration and we created a capsule collection of MoMA apparel with the idea like, if MoMA, if you were like Team MoMA, you know, if it was a sports team or a college and we do have an audience of people who love MoMA. It’s part of their life. They come and see all of our exhibits. They have a favorite work in the collection. And we kind of refer to that loosely as like Team MoMA. So this was sort of the apparel for Team MoMA, with like, a satin bomber jacket and a cardigan. And that’s the collection that I’m very excited about that we launched recently.

 

SuChin Pak  09:08

You know what? Sometimes when, when we’re especially around the holidays, when we have a guest that is bringing gems, I forget that I’m recording a podcast.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  09:20

Yeah, I started to start, like, checking lists.

 

SuChin Pak  09:24

And I was so into this that, like, at some point I hit the microphone with my face, not remembering microphone anyway. That’s a tangent, but it’s a relevant tangent.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  09:38

Yeah, let’s, let’s hit some categories that that are just going to be on everyone’s list.

 

SuChin Pak  09:43

Do it.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  09:43

Do you have some some favorite items for kids?

 

Chay Costello  09:47

Definitely, kids is a big preoccupation for us for the Fall holiday season, something that we just launched, that we think is a great gift for a kid this holiday season. Are you familiar with Miffy?

 

SuChin Pak  10:00

Yes.

 

Chay Costello  10:00

The Dutch rabbit?

 

SuChin Pak  10:01

Yeah.

 

Chay Costello  10:01

Okay, so Miffy is the iconic rabbit designed in 1955 by Dutch artist Dick Brunner, and really with the idea to have a simple character that captured kids emotions. And Miffy is beloved throughout the world. Another Dutch artwork that’s loved throughout the world is Van Gogh’s Starry Night from 1889 which is one of the jewels of momma’s collection and one of one of the most visited pieces of work in our collection. So we collaborated with a Dutch company to create crocheted Miffy doll wearing a little starry night dress, and it is really incredibly charming and a great way for a lot of folks. Have a tradition of going to a museum over the holidays too, especially New York, they come, they might want to do some shopping, check the sites and hit a museum, and they’re looking for that kind of memento that really encapsulates the experience. I think that might be starry. Night is the perfect gift for a kid.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  11:03

I have a two year old, and I’m like, oh, man, it’s so hard not to, yeah, and be it, I’ll just get it.

 

SuChin Pak  11:08

I mean, two year old, 10 year old, by the way, because, that’s the thing about this store is that it even the stuff for kids, like it’s so you know what I mean, there’s something in there that, as an adult, an older kid, you get it, right?

 

Chay Costello  11:27

Yeah, you just described a phenomenon that we’ve been tracking for like, the last three years, where it will bring in products for kids, like we have, like a Snoopy lamb and I get all of our customer reviews. Just my favorite thing in the morning to, like, have my coffee and read what all my viewers are saying about it. So great, but like, inevitably, if it’s like, if it’s a Miffy toy, if it’s a Miffy light something Snoopy, we carry this British brand called Jelly cat that makes love jelly high quality stuffies. And I’m always hearing from folks that are older adults, that they’re really into these products. So I’m always saying to my team, like, let’s not assume, yeah, we have a customer in mind. But even, like, with accessories, like with like, really cool, like Swatch watches, you see some like, grandma in there buying it, and that’s amazing. So definitely, there’s, we kind of call it like young at heart, like gifts for the young at heart. But to your point about older kids, what we’re really seeing right now for the holiday season is a real interest in retro tech. So we have cassette players, we have CD players, boom boxes, that type of thing, where folks, where younger people, are really interested in going back to that analog media.

 

SuChin Pak  12:43

Suddenly, we were now 100,000 years old when, like, you’re, I’m teaching my 10 and over.

 

Chay Costello  12:50

Suddenly, no, like the era of nostalgia right now is y, 2k It’s late 90s, early 2000s and you know.

 

SuChin Pak  12:59

Then there’s something about that too that tactile, you know, because I have 10 and 12 year olds for me, shopping for them is this age is a really hard one, because it’s like they’re not teenagers and they’re still kids. So like, My daughter loves Miffy, but she knows about starry night because they did a Van Gogh thing in her art class. So, like that works really well, but also this, like, tactile experience of, like, touching things and pushing play. And, you know, in a world where everything is just like downloaded and you see as something online.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  13:36

Yeah, Su, would you think that Kai, your son, would be into a Snoopy Beagle scouts 35 millimeter film camera. Do you think that he’d be into that?

 

SuChin Pak  13:47

Yes, and because it’s like, they’re right now, they’re like, Cap cut fiends, you know, they’re just like editing all the time on my phone, and I don’t know there’s really are.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  13:58

I’m sorry. I’m shocked. I didn’t, I don’t do that so that’s.

 

Chay Costello  14:01

Also we have this terrific like Basquiat Polaroid camera, and it’s like there’s like a basket on the camera, but it also comes with film that has, like a frame that has Basquiat artwork around it. And I see a lot of young people being into that because of the instant gratification, right? Everyone takes a million digital photos, and nobody ever makes a real photo. But what’s so fun about having the instant camera is you’re, like, snapping away, and then you get the photo right away. And it’s like, you know, rewarding immediately.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  14:29

That almost I have a another category I want to ask you about, which the Basquiat Polaroid could fit into. But do you know the category of like, let’s say coworker, give somebody that you like, but you’re not super, like, really close with but you want to get them something nice.

 

Chay Costello  14:46

Yeah, I think that I would go in the area then, of like, our creative mugs. Like this is a set of four mugs in different colors, really beautiful, Poppy colors, and the handles are in unexpected shapes. It’s a. Cheerful design. But it’s not going too far into a taste level that you might be, you know, going outside of the realm. But I would say that is that we might go to for somebody like, something that everybody always will enjoy and like and appreciate who I’m looking at.

 

SuChin Pak  15:14

Yeah, and just like, so helpful in such cheery colors, you know, yes, and that’s what we want.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  15:21

The endorphins just rise when you look at that.

 

SuChin Pak  15:24

Whole thing is an endorphin rush.

 

SuChin Pak  15:59

Did you have other categories, Ku?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  19:31

The person that seems to have everything.

 

Chay Costello  19:33

Yeah, the person that seems to have everything. I feel like people often come to MOMA looking for a gift for that person. You think I’m more like a white elephant gift, something that’s like a little bit little bit like coy, or something that’s serious for the person who has everything.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  19:47

I want serious. So is that okay?

 

SuChin Pak  19:50

Yeah, do you serious? Of course, yeah, I think that’s probably like the safer route for someone who has everything, because they have everything because they know what they want. Yeah, you know, that’s right.

 

Chay Costello  20:01

And I feel like we’re this particular fall holiday season. We have a focus on practical gifts. And I think the person who has everything appreciates a practical gift, something that has a function that they could use, that’s not just decorative. So I might say our, and this is going to be surprising, our Toyo toolbox. It’s a Japanese made toolbox. It’s beautiful in its function. It’s I hear from customers all the time they put it on a shelf because it’s so lovely. People use it to organize tools, yes, but also crafting supplies, makeup, like anything. So I would say anybody who gets the Toyo toolbox would have a use for it. It would appreciate how well designed it is.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  20:43

I know the one I was on the site. I was looking at it. I I have someone in mind. And it’s, it’s our, our mutual friend and podcast contributor, Jason Mantzoukas.

 

SuChin Pak  20:55

Jason Mantzoukas we are some this morning.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  20:59

We were like.

 

Chay Costello  21:00

This is pretty good.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  21:02

This is because, you know, better than what we’ve come up with.

 

SuChin Pak  21:05

Yes, for sure, better than chocolate, is what I came up with. What I like about this too, and a lot of you guys products at the design store, it’s like you’ve taken something that is useful or something that we may, you know, have seen or have but you’ve done it in a twist, either in a color way, or there’s some little sort of like way that you’ve presented it that makes it look like a piece of art. I mean, this looks like an expensive handbag just on the site, but I know that when you get it, you’re gonna open it up and you’re gonna put your tools in it.

 

Chay Costello  21:43

And it has like, this lovely, like, slide function. When you open it, the drawers kind of like, oh yeah, flutter out. This is you, so you could see everything that you need there.

 

SuChin Pak  21:54

This is it.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  21:55

I just realized that all the questions I’m asking are completely self serving, and that wasn’t what I thought, but I guess, no, it was my intention.

 

SuChin Pak  22:06

Well, it’s so nice because there’s so much in the store and like you can sit through, and none of it is a miss, but it’s nice to hear from you, kind of like all these places, because I haven’t seen some of these items.

 

Chay Costello  22:20

I think people think of museum gift shops often, and what they have in their head might be like a postcard or a magnet, but because MoMA has this design collection and design exhibitions and design history, we have products across the range, you know, everything from Home Goods to personal accessories to kids to tech to audio. So we strive to democratize good design and having something for everybody.

 

SuChin Pak  22:44

What is something on in the store that continues to just do well, like people absolutely love I’m just curious, like, what that there’s, like, one product that comes to mind, especially because you read all the product reviews, which I love.

 

Chay Costello  22:59

Yeah, I’ll give you like a few little examples. So a beloved product is the MoMA New York Yankees hat. The MoMA New York Yankees hat is like a Yankees hat, which is a design object in moments collection, but we have the MoMA logo on the side. We worked with the Yankees. We work with MLB. We have our own version of the cap, and it’s one of our overwhelming bestsellers. I think that’s just it’s just day in, day out. Of course, this year, we had a little traction with the Yankees in the World Series, saw a little bump up. We bring in various different versions, but it’s evergreen. I see all over town back whenever I see somebody wearing a Yankees cap in New York, I always like walk around them to see if the mama logos on the other side, just to see, are you a fan so? And then there’s also the New York coffee cup that’s like a perennial bestseller. It looks like the coffee you’d get from like the guy in the car in the street who’s going to sell you like a like a roll with butter and a coffee. It looks like that original paper coffee cup with the Greek key. And thank you for serving us. We’re happy to serve you, but it’s.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  24:05

I got that for Christmas last year, and I love it.

 

Chay Costello  24:08

It’s a great white elephant gift too. And I hear all the time, for some reason, California, people buy it from for folks who live in California, who used to live in New York, seems to be a really popular gift for that.

 

SuChin Pak  24:19

There’s a lot of us here.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  24:20

Our we call him Santa Paul Scheer, and that was one of his picks for this year. We just recorded an episode where he was and he is. He’s a New Yorker who’s moved here.

 

Chay Costello  24:30

I love it. Another example. I’ll give a final example. I’ll give you like, maybe two more. Okay, one more is our mandrivas, which is very emblematic of a MoMA design store type product, because it’s a product with many different options. So it’s inspired by the Duchess art movement and the color palette in the form of Piet Mondrian, with that kind of beautiful blocks and the primary colors. But the function of it is such that you could move it from side to side, and it has different aperture. So it can have, like, a big opening for a bunch of flowers, or a medium opening for, like, a more petite arrangement, or a small one. Just so it’s like a multi task or problem solver. It’s always something folks are looking at from us.

 

SuChin Pak  25:12

Oh, wait, so you can, can you? I’m looking at this on the site. Can you? Oh, you can do it horizontally. You can do it vertically. Like it really the.

 

Chay Costello  25:21

The openings are all different sizes, so they’re kind of catering toward different sizes of bouquets. Or that’s also kind of good for like a like, the person who has everything, but it’s a little more decor related.

 

SuChin Pak  25:36

Like that.  I love the neon colorway that it comes.

 

Chay Costello  25:40

We ended up developing that because we heard feedback from customers that they love the functionality, but not everybody’s into the primary colors. And when you’re working with like acrylic, which that is acrylic, does neons beautifully, so it really has it. And then we like, just imagine when light goes through it and you get the reflection of the color on the wall and on the table scape. It’s really quite an elegant, beautiful product.

 

SuChin Pak  26:17

I know that just one of the things that in researching more about what you guys prioritize sustainability was a big one, and I want you to kind of talk about that, how you focus and kind of marry the sustainability aspect of it, the design aspect of it, and how that intersects?

 

Chay Costello  28:56

MoMA’s role in the design World has always been about exploring what’s happening and thinking forward toward the future. Sustainability is the frame through which we build our product assortment. It’s not one consideration. It’s the consideration we’re always thinking about when we look at materials, when we look at manufacturing techniques, when we’re looking at the behaviors the design encourages and enables we’re thinking of product life cycle. So those conversations are always front of mind. So one of the things that we’re really focusing on this season is local resources finding because one of the most sustainable things you could do is to create things locally and sell things locally. And it’s also one of my favorite things to do to go and hang out in studios or in factories, and check out how things are made. But we have a number of really exciting products this holiday season that were made in the USA through this initiative. One of them is out in the west coast. Are you familiar with gantry lighting?

 

SuChin Pak  29:55

No, I’m not.

 

Chay Costello  29:56

So gantry lighting is out in the San Francisco area, and it. It’s really fantastic company that uses printing and ecological like plant plastics to create these absolutely beautiful lighting designs. And in fact, by using plant plastics and by 3d printing them, they’re able to create shapes that you don’t usually see in lighting. So also, it’s local. It’s using sustainable materials. The manufacturing process is more sustainable and has less impact on the planet. And the end result are these beautiful shapes that illuminate beautifully. Another experience we had when we were kind of exploring local resources was with Brooklyn candle studio, which is right, like out in Industry City here in Brooklyn. So we had like, a smelling session, and we picked out our own little set of, like, gift candles, but they’re made right here in Brooklyn. So that was really thrilling. Are you familiar with Ellen Van Dusen? Ellen Van Dusen is a Brooklyn based designer, near and dear to our heart. We’ve collaborated with her so many times over the year, I have to thank her for, like, glowing up the humble bathrobe so that you could, like, put on your bathrobe and be fabulous. I really appreciate what she’s contributed to that sector of the world. But we connected with her because we’ve longed to work with this fascinating company in Argentina called vaca valiante, and they have pioneered a way to recycle leather and get like off cuts from the leather industry in Argentina, which is a big industry, and reuse them. And initially the designs looked kind of like really rough and perfunctory, but we really worked with them to refine them, and then Ellen applied her amazing graphics to them. So now we have a line of travel accessories, things like passport cases and little wallets and luggage tags with her beautiful designs, all made on recycled leather, which is a very near and dear effort that we worked on and developed with her super exciting so cool.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  31:58

That’s a great gift.

 

Chay Costello  32:00

Yeah.

 

SuChin Pak  32:02

And the category and the story behind it.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  32:04

Yeah.

 

SuChin Pak  32:05

Like, getting that story and then being able to, like, you know, pass that on so, like, there’s so much meaning and gift giving that way, you know, yeah.

 

Chay Costello  32:16

No, we definitely. We love to, we love the process. We love to work closely with designers. We love to research companies and manufacturing and I think the end result is a more thoughtful, special gift that people could share with other people.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  32:31

Chay, before we let you go, can you share something in the store that you personally love, that maybe could get overlooked, especially if you’re shopping online?

 

Chay Costello  32:39

MoMA has a long history of Christmas cards dating back to the 1940s when MoMA used to work with artists like Henri Matisse and Alexander Calder Andy Warhol Robert Indiana. Are you familiar with Robert Indiana’s love? That was a holiday card before it was anything else. In 1965 it’s about to have an anniversary. That was a MoMA holiday card, and then it became a screen print, and then it became a big sculpture, but it began its life as a holiday card, and MoMA, to this day, still has a tradition of producing our own holiday cards. We get, it’s open submission. We get hundreds of designs every year. It’s like Christmas morning, every morning when that happens, because we’re like opening up all these packages and looking at all these different designs, and because we’ve worked with so many designers and cultivated the stable of really talented illustrators and paper engineers, we’ve been instrumental in pioneering paper engineering. So now you get a MoMA holiday card. It’s not usually just an illustration. It will pop up, it will spin. It will turn into a mini sculpture. It will become part of your table scape. We hear from customers all the time that they’re known for sending out MoMA holiday cards, and all their recipients wait for them, save them every year and then put them all up on the mantle. So it’s truly become a holiday tradition.

 

SuChin Pak  34:02

Oh, no, these they to say that these are cards is such an understatement. Now that I’m looking at the link like they have one, I don’t know […]. You can see it’s a looks like snow holiday pop up card, and it’s sunglasses that have like snow place like.

 

Chay Costello  34:16

My labor of love. So that card was originally designed 30 years ago, and I was looking through old catalogs, and I was like, looks like snow. Because, yeah, it looks like a pair of glasses with two different snowflakes, and you put them on, and then it looks like snow. It’s amazing. I was like, we’ve got to bring it back. We’ve got to bring it back. And it’s really, really great. Yeah, and people, and some people I know also will, like, make them as part of their gift, or they’ll put them on top of a package, and they’re just really beautiful.

 

SuChin Pak  34:46

Oh my gosh. Thank you, che for your expert advice so satisfying.

 

Chay Costello  34:50

Yeah, that was really fun.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  34:52

You don’t know how much you’ve helped me. I’m grateful frankly.

 

Chay Costello  34:57

If you find yourselves in New York, I do personally shopping so.

 

SuChin Pak  35:04

Okay, waiting for an excuse to get to New York to get.

 

Chay Costello  35:07

I have friends from LA who come in town like around Thanksgiving. I’m just like, meet at the store, because there’s no moment you have online. You have our website. But it’s just fun to walk through the store sometimes and be like, it’s always like, mother in law. Is like, what should I get my mother in law? And I’m like, we’re good.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  35:27

We picked some of our faves from the store that you can see on the Add to Cart MoMA design store page. So shop away.

 

SuChin Pak  35:33

Go to mo.ma/addtocart and use or mention code AddtoCart online and US MoMA design stores for 10% off your purchase now through December 1 2024 it cannot be combined with those offers. Restrictions may apply, and that’s m, O dot, M, a slash, add to cart code Addtocart.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  35:57

As always, holiday magic continues all season long on our Instagram at Add to Cart pod, we’ll see you again soon. Bye, thank you so much, Chay.

 

Chay Costello  36:06

Bye.

 

CREDITS  36:11

There’s more Add To Cart with Lemonada Premium subscribers get exclusive access to bonus content, like where we tell you about the last item we bought or returned, and why subscribe now in Apple podcasts. Add To Cart is a production of Lemonada Media. Our producers are Kegan Zema and Tiffany Bouy. Brian Castillo is our engineer. Theme music is by Wasahhbii and produced by La Made It and Oh So Familiar with additional music by APM music. Executive producers or Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak, Jessica Cordova Kramer, and Stephanie Wittels Wachs. Be sure to check out all the items we mentioned today on our Instagram at @AddToCartPod. Follow Add to Cart wherever you get your podcasts or listen ad free on Amazon music with your Prime membership.

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