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Don’t go broke trying to make holiday magic this season. Podcasters Kristen Meinzer (How to Be Fine, Daily Fail) and Kulap Vilaysack (Add to Cart) are here to help. They tell us all about their favorite budget-friendly holiday traditions, plus how to make your place look festive on a budget and wtf to feed your guests when you don’t want to spend your whole paycheck. And they have some surprising ideas on how to approach gifts this season. No matter how little or how much you want to spend, this episode will help you focus on what really matters.

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Transcript

SPEAKERS

Kristen Meinzer, Kulap Vilaysack, X Mayo

X Mayo  00:05

Welcome back to The Dough, where we aren’t afraid to buy our nativity scene at the dollar store. Okay, we not sure who Baby Jesus actually would be. Might be a tomato, but hey, it is what it is. I’m your host, X Mayo. I love holidays as much as the next person. Like I am Christmas crazy, right? But it is expensive. You know the song 12 days of Christmas? You’re telling me this person got five golden rings for Christmas in this economy, maybe I’m not Santa Claus, although I do look good in red, though I do listen, spending time with your loved ones and showing them how much you care, shouldn’t break the bank. So that’s why, on today’s episode, we’re showing you how to do the holidays on a budget, and our guests today are masters at making magic happen, even when your money has gone poof. We’ve got Kristen Meinzer and Kulap Vilaysack in the house. Both have been guests on The Dough before, and we’re so excited to have them back. Kristen Meinzer is the host of many podcasts, including How To Be Fine, daily fail and buy the book. She is also an author who writes and talks about pop culture for a living. Kulap Vilaysack is a writer, actor, director and podcaster. She co hosts the podcast Add To Cart with MTV veteran SuChin Pak, Kulap and Kristen, welcome to The Dough.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  03:10

Oh, I’m excited to be here.

 

Kristen Meinzer  03:12

Yeah, so great to be back.

 

X Mayo  03:13

So I’m gonna start off with an icebreaker. So can you both tell me what is the most inexpensive holiday tradition you or your family does every year.

 

Kristen Meinzer  03:21

I have a few different things because I am cheap, so one of my favorite traditions is the Thanksgiving leftovers party. Everybody just brings their leftovers. They come over the day after Thanksgiving. A lot of people are worn out the day after Thanksgiving. They don’t want to go to the shops to do that, like standing in line to get the big deals. They don’t want to have to deal with anything. They have a kitchen to clean up. They have too many leftovers that don’t fit in the cupboards and so on. So it’s like, hey, everyone, just come on over with their leftovers. We’re all going to get together here. We’re going to eat our leftovers together. We’re going to hang out, and maybe one person will bring, you know, one cup of stir fried noodles. Somebody else is gonna bring eight pounds of stuffing, somebody else is gonna bring half a bottle of champagne. We all just bring our leftovers, we hang out, we laugh, we decompress. If we were having any stress with certain family members, it’s just a good time.

 

X Mayo  04:15

Wait. Okay, so are you meeting with family to talk about family?

 

Kristen Meinzer  04:19

Usually it’s meeting with friends. Usually it’s friends getting together.

 

X Mayo  04:23

Okay, because that to me, I thought that that was even better. Like Kristen’s, like, we only have certain family members that we meet with to talk about the other ones, and we are, I didn’t know you were meeting with friends, because to me, that’s funny. Oh,

 

Kristen Meinzer  04:36

you can do that too. I’ve had family members be involved in the leftovers party. Okay, you can pick and choose. Just choose your favorites, people you want to be real with, people you want to maybe even just wear pajamas with, where you don’t put on real clothes.

 

X Mayo  04:48

Yes, okay, so cool lab, you can give us an expensive one if you need one, if you don’t have an inexpensive one, no worries.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  04:53

Yes, generally, the inexpensive move is to be a guest. I at my house because I spend the money. But one inexpensive tradition we have is we just had it this this past Sunday is a undoubtedly second year in a row. It’s a cheesy Holiday Movie Night, and it’s usually a themed potluck. So really the movie is so inconsequential. This year, it was the married gentleman, which is a Netflix rom com that is not good, but again, not the point. I already have Netflix. It’s cheap. And the idea was that we usually create some sort of, like potluck theme. And this was like, cheesy Bach, phallic inspired food. It was a sausage party, essentially.

 

X Mayo  05:46

Did we get any brachiou? It was there? Any sausage? Is there any .

 

Kulap Vilaysack  05:49

Of course, there was. My sister made a cock praise, a salad.

 

X Mayo  05:56

And a charcuterie board.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  05:59

Yes. I mean, that’s I made, uh, cheese balls. I made cheese balls. You have to, I had a spicy sausage that protruded from them. Yes, with some club crackers. It was a good time.

 

X Mayo  06:11

Okay, Kulap, I’m gonna have to steal yours. I really am Kristen. I’m gonna have to steal yours as well. And I think what I love about cool apps is that I feel like we can do that at any time, you know, we can we, I would love to, like, find a movie, and it’s like, it’s about the movie, but it’s not about the movie, because it’s like, if you do Scarface, everybody’s like, Oh, I bring a gun. You know, we all bring cocaine. You know, that’s, yeah, I have to be, I’m gonna, you have to be mindful of that movie. Okay, so let’s get into it, because I’m gonna be very honest with you all, I am crazy when it comes to hosting. I love there are people who I have certain candles for when certain people come over, because that matters to me. Like, I love to host. I’m so community oriented. Like, I would just love if all of my friends, we all live on the same street and, like, have a tunnel that connects all of our homes, the dream.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  07:03

The dream compound. Yes, of friends.

 

Kristen Meinzer  07:07

I want it to be a entire village that’s just called Golden Girls village.

 

X Mayo  07:11

Absolutely, and so I don’t I am crazy with hosting it. And like, you leaving here fed, or like, falling asleep on my couch is the goal, right? So Kris and Ku, I have a question for you, like, how would you each describe your hosting vibes?

 

Kristen Meinzer  07:24

I would describe my hosting vibes as, everybody relax, take it easy, like you don’t have to be stressed here. There are no airs. Maybe you’re just gonna be getting half of a paper towel and that’s your napkin, and that’s gonna be fine. There is no need here, okay? Because we’re going back to the store. Yeah, nobody needs to worry about stuff. Yet you don’t have to worry that you’re dressed well enough for this event. If you want to dress to the nines, please do so, because I love it when people dress in a costume, but you can literally show up in sweatpants, and I won’t care. Just be yourself. I want you to feel like this is your second living room. That’s what I want. When you come over.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  08:04

Oh, I love and I want to come over.

 

Kristen Meinzer  08:06

Yeah, just treat it like your living room. There’s no airs, there’s no you don’t need to worry. Like, am I good enough here? You’re good enough because I love you when you’re in my house. That’s right.

 

X Mayo  08:15

Yep, you wouldn’t be here. Okay, so cool out. What about you? What sort of vibe Are you? Are you the one who hosts? Or we’re like, we’re going to Kulap.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  08:22

Yes, I generally host, I would say esthetically comfortable. And so this bitch is table scaping, and she and I like to do it like, I look at a table and I think, Hey, that’s my canvas. Like, I you could, you could wear whatever you want to my house. But I like, I like to set a table. I like there. I for me as a person. I like idea of a crowded table that that to me, is my, my philosophy, my, my life’s work is to be in a crowded table. And I love to to hold that space for people, much like UX, for people that I know who are coming over. I my friend gave me the idea to do these, like wood name plates. So everyone has sort of personal name plates and, you know, so you know. And if you don’t have a personalized name plate yet, then I’ll write your name on a name card. It’s things like that, where I want people to feel seen, held, and then have a feast for their mouth, but also their eyes.

 

Kristen Meinzer  09:25

Wow, you two are like real Martha Stewart, both of you.

 

X Mayo  09:29

A version of it ever haven’t gone to jail, thank god. Okay, now this is a question for Kula, because you talked about it that you are the tables escaping, you know, priestess, right? And so I am intrigued by it, because, you know, I love home decor. So I just want to know if you can please tell our listeners what tablescaping is and what it brings to the table. You see what I did.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  09:57

So, you know the root of it is, of course, the word. Word table and the word landscaping shoved together in a kind of inelegant portmanteau. And for me, when I table set, you know, I have a couple of plate they’re usually very kind of neutral plates that I use. But where personality, if you will, come through, is I do love a cloth napkin. I have sets of those. I do in the middle of my table. Always want fire, organics, fire. And when I say that, I mean candles, organics. I mean that to be flowers or pumpkins or fruit. I’m an abundance queen. So that’s the you know, I want a feeling of when you’re here, that we, unlike how I grew up, we were not living in scarcity. We are, we are overflow with and that everyone can partake.

 

X Mayo  10:53

You preaching, you preaching. I love, she’s that overflow, over and over.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  10:59

As for the movie, for the eyes, feast for the mouth, and I like a little bit of whimsy. And usually that means, you know, I’ve got, you know, it’s, quite frankly, figurines of animals that are thrown in there. Like, there’s, you know, there’s just random stuff that I that I have on there. And, you know, like those name plates I’m talking about, too. So the simplest thing is, is, is to say that it’s themed table setting. It’s, yeah, composed table setting.

 

X Mayo  11:31

What I love about table scaping is the creativity of it. And I will give just a little suggest to our listeners listening a woman by the name of Raven Elise. I’ve been following her since she was like a makeup girl. She still does makeup here and there, but she’s predominantly like just DIY queen, and she shows so many ways to do it, like with Dollar Tree, how to reuse stuff, because she like thinks about stuff within the environment. She like has reused stuff seven to eight times before she buys something new. So that way you can, kind of like, table scape on a budget.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  12:05

Go to Goodwill, go to there. I mean, yeah, like, there’s a Facebook and offer up and all these things. There’s really nothing that like, you know, like, Okay, did I splurge on a William Sonoma punch bowl that’s shaped as a pumpkin, and it has, like, a gold little top. Yeah, I do that, but I use that. It’s something that I use. But beyond that, it’s like, what do I, you know, I’ve accumulated things, you know, over the years on my travels. And when I say travels, I mean just, you know, walking to Franklin, it doesn’t have to be far off places.

 

Kristen Meinzer  12:41

You know, I was just gonna say, so I’m a, I’m a huge Christmas nut. I have Christmas trees up 24/7, you can’t see them, but they’re to my left here. I never take down my Christmas trees. And I got them at a church parking lot sale, and they were like $1 each, these Christmas trees I have. So, yeah, you really don’t have to go hog wild and buy things brand new. There’s always a rummage sale. There’s always a Buy Nothing group where you can get this stuff and you don’t have to pay for it. And also, as much as I love a table scape, sometimes during the holidays, your house is already decorated beautifully anyway, just because you have Christmas trees up and you have lights up, so you also don’t have to sweat it if you’re not putting that much on the table to make the table look nice, because the rest of your house probably does look nice right now at this time of year.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  13:27

So you said it before. If it does not bring you joy and it stresses you out, really don’t do it. I’m speaking from a place of like, it’s a delight. I do it the day before, and I want my time to do it. And it’s like, it’s something that I like, but it’s you shouldn’t. One shouldn’t feel pressured or to keep up any sort of appearances. That shouldn’t be what the this time is about.

 

Kristen Meinzer  13:50

No, absolutely not. If you love doing it, do it. You know, like I said, I love Christmas, and I love my Christmas decorations. Other people don’t want to put up 500 decorations every Christmas. I do. I not just at Christmas you’re around, as I said, but if it brings you joy, do it? Don’t stress out over it. And also creating a beautiful atmosphere in your home sometimes doesn’t even involve decoration. So one thing we do in our house is we put on the TV. We have a large screen TV where we just put on there’s various YouTube channels that just have 70s, 80s and 90s Christmas TV commercials, and we put those on in the background because they’re so quirky and fun to watch. You know, Peter coming home from college and making Folgers Coffee for the parents, for example. You know, all of those commercial playing back to back. And then we put on our own soundtrack from Spotify or whatnot. So you see the commercials in the background, but then we have jolly music playing in the foreground.

 

Kristen Meinzer  14:45

Oh my god, stealing that Kristen.

 

X Mayo  14:49

[…] This is an immersive idea.

 

Kristen Meinzer  14:53

But, yeah, that’s what gives us joy. Like, if it doesn’t bring you joy to do that kind of media experience, I mean, I think part of it’s like, I. A culture critic. I love music, I love TV, I love movies. I want that to be part of my atmosphere. If that doesn’t bring you joy, don’t do it. Yeah, if making a beautiful table scape brings you the most joy, do that? Focus on what makes you happy. The holidays are stressful enough. Don’t do stuff because you feel like you have to.

 

Kristen Meinzer  15:25

Well, I already mentioned my leftovers party where I don’t have to feed anyone. Everyone brings periods. So there’s that, obviously.

 

X Mayo  18:06

Yeah, I love that.

 

Kristen Meinzer  18:07

Yeah, but I’m a Minnesotan, so.

 

X Mayo  18:09

So am I, by the way, Kristen.

 

Kristen Meinzer  18:11

Oh, nice. So you know, our great culinary tradition, the Hot dish. Okay, what was that? That’s also called a casserole in the rest of the country, but it’s, I believe, derived from a Swedish word that means warm plate, or main plate. So hush dish, I think, is how it’s originally said. But hot dish, a single pan meal. Throw in some carbs. It can be some pasta. It can be potatoes, whatnot. It doesn’t cost very much. Maybe a can of Campbell’s condensed soup. In there, some frozen veg. Before you know it, you have a giant pan of some sort of food. Maybe it’s baked ziti, hearty. It’s very hardy. People are going to be full. They might say they want seconds because it’s so delicious, but they can’t have seconds because they’re too full. That’s right, they physically can’t. Yeah, it’s hearty, it’s cheap, it’s delicious. So I think that’s one way to do it cheap. And then sometimes it’s just cheaper to get food delivered. Frankly, like, I can’t remember if I mentioned this last time I was on the show, but when my husband and I got married, who catered our wedding, the pizza parlor we had pizzas delivered in for our wedding. And sometimes it’s just cheaper dollar for dollar, to order in some pizzas and have a pizza party. And one other thing that I have done during the holidays is do a soup bar where I make a giant pot of chili, a giant pot of chili, and you can have different toppings that go in, or I might have two soups, maybe one’s a chicken noodle. So there’s two different kinds of soups, and people can dress up their soups. It’s not that expensive, because soups, you know, soup, is not that expensive. And people can bring additional toppings. People will bring like, Hey, I brought a bag of grated cheese. I brought some tortilla chips to go with the chili or whatnot. And it’s easy. It’s self serve. People can take care of themselves. Doesn’t have to be fancy, and it’s delicious. Who doesn’t love soup?

 

X Mayo  19:59

Oh, my God. Now I love that. I’m a soup girly. I’m a soup I’m a soup baddie, for sure.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  20:04

To that end, it’s like, I love an easy, slow cooker meal. You know, get that Insta pot out. Make make something. Make a one pot meal out of the Insta I love a one pot. Yeah, I’m not everyone’s serving themselves when they come to my house. Let me be clear. I’ll make that buffet look good. I’ll put it in a nice dish, but I am not serving you. You’re not I’m not spooning things into your plate. You’re a grown person. I have a two year old. I handle her.  You handle yourself.

 

X Mayo  20:35

Right, and even sometimes cool. I was like, get in there. You know how to open that fridge, grab the peanut butter and jelly and do what to do you need to learn.

 

Kristen Meinzer  20:47

Yeah, I’ve also done the very, very cheap Chinese takeaway New York City tradition. It’s a very common thing for people outside of New York. You may not know this, but one of the most common things to do in New York is go to the movies and get Chinese takeaway on Christmas. It’s cheap. The Christmas movies are packed in New York. You know, it’s opening day for all of the Oscar contenders, and it’s so lively. It’s so fun. If you’re spending Christmas by yourself, which I’ve done a couple of years, it’s a great way after you do other Christmas things, like maybe there were a couple of years where I volunteered on Christmas, first, delivered meals, served up food to those who needed it, and then afterwards, went to the movies, and then on the way home, picked up some Chinese food, a very classic New York Christmas.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  21:35

I thought you were saying. I was like, Oh, wow, that’s like, a lot of fun. I thought you were holding, like, lo mein noodles while watching Wicked.

 

X Mayo  21:44

That’s how basic I am.

 

Kristen Meinzer  21:46

I may have done that before. I may I may have snuck in Chinese food before. You’re not supposed to do it. But okay, yeah, I have done that before. I’m not mad at it. I was like, oh, that sounds fun. I’m not. I feel like I shouldn’t be telling listeners to do that because it’s not very polite to bring your Chinese food into the theater. But I’ve done it yeah.

 

X Mayo  22:03

First of all, listen, I thought that as people walked in, I thought you planned a group of 12, you had Chinese food in there, and as they walked in, they grabbed their takeaway. You got your noodles, your orange chicken and a little beef broccoli on top. Now, actually, Chris said I’m going to do that. I know that where you were going, but that’s where me and Kulap. Oh, wait, yeah, so do what we’re gonna do.

 

X Mayo  22:34

Okay, so let’s get into gifts. Okay? Because I listen. I, you know, went through my list, checked it twice. I’ve been naughty, a little nice, and I have no money. Okay? Like I went, I saw Kendrick Lamar at the pop out, and then I went to see Mariah Carey. You know, we’re just, we’re really on a budget. In her next week, I’m so excited. You’re gonna die. She’s 20 out of 10. The mic is on our last standing diva, one of the OGs. She’s just a delight. So I wanted to talk to you guys about what would be your advice to buy gifts on a budget. Maybe make a gift like, what’s your strategy on gifts on a budget?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  24:41

I just made a speech at Thanksgiving that I was trying to was that your gift was my gift.

 

X Mayo  24:48

I just made a speech.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  24:51

You know, and I am a professional talker So, and I value myself and everywhere.

 

X Mayo  24:58

And she said, you know what? Family? No invoice on that one. That one’s free.

 

Kristen Meinzer  25:02

You’re welcome.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  25:03

Yeah that’s right. So I had to, I wrote an email, and then I did a speech on Thanksgiving, talking about, like, like, let’s not, let’s spend, let’s do less, let’s spend less. Like, there’s my house, there’s gonna be like, 12 people. It’s insane. Like we we just the idea of spending that much per person. This is what I said look, we, me and my husband are going to make sure everybody we’ve invited to the house will have a gift. You will be able to open a gift from us. But amongst yourselves. Let’s cap it let’s do stocking stuffers. And our traditions are we start the day, we open gifts, and then we play a series of games that my sister in law comes up with. And I was like, it’s taken too much time away from our games. Like we’re on this, like, sketch, let’s, let’s just do less and and frankly, I’m imploring you, you could also not spend anything like, don’t like, it’s it. These are tough and hard times. Like, the whole point is to be together. And for all of us, when there are so many gifts in succession, things start to lose meaning, right? So I’m a person. I have a podcast called Add to Cart. I love things. I shop all the time. It’s sport for me. But I kind of like in this place where, like, last stuff, a frame photo. If you go on Shutterfly and you’re a Costco, my love headshot, cool. Love of my headshot, absolutely it’s in the mail for both of you in a beautiful frame I found at Marshalls. Shutterfly. If you Shutterfly is a service where you can, you know, make photos into ornaments or whatnot. But also, if you’re a Costco member, generally, everything is about 50% off, but usually at Shutterfly, because they just want you to be there, they will print out photos for four by sixes for free. You just have to pay for shipping handling. So you have photo of somebody, of something together, or, you know, and you put that in a nice frame that, again, you know, I should be this book person for Marshalls, the level that I’m going there and how much I bring them up like, because I’m also getting the wrapping paper from there, beautiful high key wrapping paper.

 

X Mayo  27:27

Top tier.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  27:30

Like Target, you’ve never and so, I mean, that’s, that’s, that’s lovely, like, I think he’s just like, to the end of the year. It’s a remembrance of of our relationships. It’s just like, who cares about the other stuff? And again, I love things. I’m a Taurus. Like, I do like, I love it. I’m an abundance queen. But like, let’s all pull back.

 

X Mayo  27:52

Yeah, what are your thoughts? Christian, too, on some budget friendly gifts. Like, what’s your go to strategy for that?

 

Kristen Meinzer  27:57

Well, my sister and I, for the past several years have had, I think it started as a joke, but it’s now genuinely the thing we do every Christmas I send a box to her and her family. She sends one to me and her family, and the rule is you cannot buy what you’re sending in the mystery box. You can make things. You can find junk in your house, whatever crap is sitting in the back of the storage closet, you can put that in the Christmas box you cannot buy. That’s our rule. So fortunately, my sister lives in Arizona and has all these fruit trees on her property, so she always sends me a bunch of citrus fruit, and it’s delicious, and she might make a couple of baked goods. Meanwhile, I will send her swag from different conferences I go to. So maybe there are headphones in there. Maybe there are tote bags. Maybe there are, you know, random items that I’m sure you guys get all the time when you go to conferences, too. And she and her kids are thrilled. They’re like, look at all this tech stuff. Look at these wireless earbuds. Look at, you know, whatever I find in the house. One year, I just sent them throw pillows. I’m like, Oh, look at these throw pillows in the back of the closet. And they were like, Whoa, throw pillows. These were great. So we have this. And like I said originally, I think, started as just something funny to do, but now we genuinely get excited, because we never know what’s going to be in the mystery box. We never know.

 

X Mayo  29:11

What if they send their kid, it’s like, here’s my kid. That’s what’s in the take them. But I know.

 

Kristen Meinzer  29:17

That’s not going to be everyone’s cup of tea. So some other things my family always did growing up drawing the one name. You draw, one name of one family member. Presents for everybody. You’re buying present with a $25 limit, and everyone does you know the name that they drew. Alternatively, we do what some people call white elephant or Yankee swap, where everybody brings one present that’s $25 or less, or it doesn’t even have to be $25 or less. It can be something very nice from your own home, if you want it to be, you know, yeah. And more often than not, it’s just something silly that’s already in my home, possibly from another white elephant party. You know, I have a lot of tchotchkes in my house, so bring that to the white elephant. And then. Yeah, trade that and it’s fun. Then it’s a game. It’s interactive. People are stealing from each other, there’s revenge, there’s taking people down, and and isn’t that part of the holiday.

 

X Mayo  30:12

Just so easy, friendly, on the budget? And Kristen said, yes, it’s revenge. Yes, it’s yes, it’s Hunger Games.

 

Kristen Meinzer  30:18

It is take take people down, get the best presents, do all of that. And then one other Gifty sort of thing that is not so much a Christmas thing, but it’s something that I’ve done many years on New Year’s, is I’ll invite a bunch of friends over and everybody we are required to bring all of the clothes we want to get rid of this year, we do a closet, clean out, and then we swap clothes, whatever clothes I want of yours, whatever clothes you want of mine. And then whatever’s left over, we donate to, you know, the Goodwill or whatever organization we want to donate to. Lately, we’ve been donating to the asylum seekers here in New York who are at Floyd Bennett field. But it’s a chance for us to get new items, or new to us items. It’s a chance for us to clean out our closets, and it’s a chance for us to give back. So it’s kind of a triple hit of joy.

 

X Mayo  31:09

I love that I will also too, like whoever you’re thinking of getting a gift for if you think about the favorite thing that they love, there’s almost maybe an app or a class for that that maybe isn’t that expensive. Like, I have a friend who’s like a big, big, big film buff, and letterbox is like an app, and they have, like, a premium thing that’s like 20 something dollars that you can buy for somebody like that. Or if they love, like, pottery making class, getting them a class. And like, somebody like me, I know other people would maybe like, why did you get this baby? Give me laundry detergent this Don power wash, apple scent, my favorite. Get me shit that I need that I’m going to use, right?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  31:53

Oh, X, you know, a move that you know, looking for a stocking stuffer. It’s just like, throw down some lottery Scratchers and some.

 

Kristen Meinzer  32:01

Oh yeah, always a hit […]

 

X Mayo  32:07

Oh my god. I used to buy them from my uncle all the time at 711 and how was that I haven’t bought them a long time. That could be fun, and they’re cheap. Yeah, like, Yeah, that’s really cute. Okay, well, Kulap and Kristen, I’ve taken so much of your time, and I can’t wait to go to both of your houses and go to sleep and eat. And I want to thank you so much for coming back on to the dough, because we want to spread some, you know, holiday, holiday cheer and, you know, awareness. So where should people be following you both on social media.

 

Kristen Meinzer  32:34

Well, you can find me on Instagram @k10meinzer. That’s K one zero meinzer. I also have a website, kristenmineser.com if you want to learn more about me and the different shows.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  32:45

I host, and I am at @iamkulap on Instagram, that’s probably the best place to see me. And of course, @AddtoCartpod, for the everything that we’re doing at Add to Cart I co host that podcast with the legend SuChin Pak.

 

X Mayo  33:03

Absolutely okay. Thank you guys so much for coming on to the show. You guys were amazing. I’m gonna take all the things that you said. I’m not gonna spend that much money. I’m gonna take from you, Kristen, to do the Thanksgiving Day leftover Kulap, I’m gonna find a side bitch, and make sure, make a place card for her. She comes in my house, and I’m gonna do all those things and take that with me to this holiday season. Thank you guys so much for joining me here at The Dough.

 

Kristen Meinzer  33:30

Thank you. Happy holidays.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  33:32

Happy holidays.

 

X Mayo  33:34

Oh, this episode was as good as seafood, cornbread dressing, honey baby. Okay, and then sometimes I add a little hot honey on top. Oh, you don’t know about that. Y’all don’t know about that. Okay, Kristen and Kulap, gave us so many ideas to keep the holiday spirit and our wallets alive through the New Year. Now, let’s say you have family over, right? And your brother’s bringing his girlfriend’s cousin’s sister, well, get that Insta pot out and make a mean green bean casserole. Invite me over, and everyone goes home full. All right, I gotta go tablescape my dining room. These Layla Bo candles aren’t going to light themselves. Hello, happy holidays, everyone. Philly snappy, dad, Mary, everything. Okay? God bless you.

 

CREDITS  34:24

The Dough is a Lemonada original. I’m your host X Mayo. This series was created in partnership with Flourish Ventures. This series is presented by the Margaret Casey Foundation. Our producers are Tiffany Bui, and Dani Matias. Kristen Lepore is our senior producer. Mix and Sound Design by Bobby Woody. Original Music by Pat Mesiti Miller. Jackie Danziger is our Vice President of narrative content. Executive Producers include me X Mayo, Stephanie Wittels Wachs and Jessica Cordova Kramer. Help others find our show by leaving us a rating and writing a review. You can follow me on IG  @80dollarsandasuitcase and Lemonada @lemonadamedia across all social platforms, follow The Dough wherever you get your podcast or listen ad free on Amazon music with your Prime membership, thanks so much for listening. See you next week, bye.