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In the dark recesses of a heated yoga studio, there is one unlikely enthusiast who keeps coming back for more — and he will not be shamed for his choice of post-workout snack. Scott brings Ellie into the world of hot yoga, and the two talk about the highs and lows of the sweaty activity, plus what’s in and what’s out when playing a game of “big tennis” (Ellie’s words).

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Transcript

SPEAKERS

Scott Eckert, Ellie Kemper

Ellie Kemper  00:09

Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode of Born To Love, the show where we talk to the people we love about the things they love. I’m Ellie Kemper.

 

Scott Eckert  00:20

And I’m Scott Eckert, and today our topic is going to be one that I chose. I guess I’m the one that Ellie loves today, it is hot yoga. For all you hot yoga aficionados out there, buckle up, and also for the people who might hate yoga. I was recently among your ranks, so stick around for that. But before we get into my love of hot yoga. Ellie, how have you been? How was your week?

 

Ellie Kemper  00:45

It has been an up and down week, as every week for everyone in the world is, but I want to focus on the ups of this week, Scott, and there’s been one major up that has been keeping me up floating high, soaring above the rest. And do you know what I have been loving this week?

 

Scott Eckert  01:03

Who? What? What is it?

 

Ellie Kemper  01:05

The voice of Dame Idina Menzel.

 

Scott Eckert  01:13

Speaking of up she can hit those high notes.

 

Ellie Kemper  01:15

That is exactly what I’m talking about. She is not a dame for all you fact checkers out there, addicted to facts, but she is a dame of my heart. Idina Menzel, for those of you who don’t know, and I don’t think there’s anybody who doesn’t know, Adina Menzel is a vocal legend. She and an actress, extraordinary, legendary actress as well. She’s a legend among many, but what I loved this week was her high notes. I have been driving a lot this week, and in the car, there’s been my kids have been requesting a lot of frozen and a lot of wicked the musical.

 

Scott Eckert  01:58

Well, what do they have in common, Ellie?

 

Ellie Kemper  02:02

No Man’s else. Scott, this was so here’s what I have found as a as a pedestrian, as a person who can carry a tune but does not have an extraordinary voice, I have noticed that often I take amazing voices for granted. I think this is a beautiful, beautiful song, and then it is not until I try to sing along with a song that I again realize, oh, people have extraordinary talent that I don’t have. And it moves you, Scott, when Idina Menzel is singing the high notes of into the unknown, which is actually frozen two, a song from Frozen two I feel like I could fly to the sun and not get burned.

 

Scott Eckert  02:46

Do you feel like you could defy gravity, Ellie?

 

Ellie Kemper  02:49

I feel like gravity would. That’s a wicked callback. I feel like that’s a song in Wicked I feel like gravity, are you.

 

Scott Eckert  02:59

Building fun of me? I feel like you’re not being nice to the listeners. I feel like you’re being mean to me.

 

Ellie Kemper  03:06

I’m being I’m being both. I’m being nice to the listeners and mean to you. No, I don’t know that everybody is as familiar with the wicked soundtrack. What’s the word discography, discography, score soundtrack, as you and I. Are you and I the Broadway sort of aficionados, to use that word again, we’re very familiar with.

 

Scott Eckert  03:28

Aficionado means somebody who really knows a lot about something.

 

Ellie Kemper  03:34

Yes.

 

Scott Eckert  03:34

Now she was like, that’s not exactly right. You can see that they was printed on Ellie’s faces. Scott didn’t get it exactly right, but I can’t come up with a more accurate definition of aficionado.

 

Ellie Kemper  03:47

A, you got it exactly right. B, what you saw on my face was me desperately trying to come up with a sick burn and not being able to get there in time. That’s what you saw on my gorgeous face. Speaking of gorgeous, whenever I have felt low energy, whenever I felt depressed, whenever I felt frustrated or annoyed. This week and I happen to be in the car, all I have to do is scroll on my little phone to let it go, to define gravity to I’m not that girl. I believe that’s Idina Menzel, yes, from Wicked. And I feel a million times better. There’s something in her voice that actually resonates in my body. And my stomach starts to churn in a good way, not a bad way. And I feel really full of hope and optimism, and I just love her voice, and I’m so grateful that it exists in the world.

 

Scott Eckert  04:48

Ellie, as you know, and longtime listeners probably know as well, I’m not a big music guy, which is to say I don’t really listen to music or know very much about it. In fact, I would say that I have a. A mild disdain for most music, and Idina Menzel is an exception. I love her. I love all the things that you’ve talked about. But here’s here’s the thing, I’m old. You’re old too. We’re both old. So this will be ancient history to a lot of people, but I saw wicked on Broadway with Idina Menzel and I was a young man who had recently moved to New York City and and even back then, not a big music fan. My friend got us tickets, and I wouldn’t say I went begrudgingly, but I wasn’t super excited about it, and when she sang, I think it was defying gravity. I forget. I would have to listen to all the songs to remember exactly which one it was, but there was, I think it was in the last song of the first act of the musical. And it’s the only time that I felt physically like the doors of the theater were being blown off. I was like that, that metaphor of like the blowing the doors off or whatever, I understood it. I was like, Oh my God. I was leaning back like a wind turbine was  blowing me because I was so overwhelmed, and it stuck with me for decades now. And I’m not exaggerating in the least. If my wife were sitting beside me, she would say, Scott never talks about music, but he has mentioned that one time that he saw wicked multiple, multiple and like cocktail parties and stuff it is a touchstone moment for me.

 

Ellie Kemper  06:31

If you and I have known each other for decades, we have known each other for over 20 years. I never heard that story. I did not know you shared my love for the voice of Idina Menzel, this was not we did not discuss this love ahead of time. Listeners, it is completely by accident that I happen to have brought up something that moved you so powerfully those many years ago. And it is, you know what it is. It is a testament to the power that is in her voice. And I just want to thank her. She’s a long time listener. I want. I’m kidding, fact checkers out there maybe, maybe she is, that’s what I’m saying about her voice.

 

Scott Eckert  07:18

Idina, if you are listening to this on your commute or at the gym. Please accept our sincerest thanks, our thanks for a lifetime of wonderful music and.

 

Ellie Kemper  07:31

Blowing the doors off the theater.

 

Scott Eckert  07:34

Blowing those doors up. Ellie, I want to I have a, I have an idea playing with right that occurs to me during this conversation is it’s not just the power of Idina menzel’s voice, it is the bell ringing clarity that she is just the best at what she does. My kids are watching the Michael Jordan documentary. And, like, I don’t know a tremendous amount about basketball, but it is still tremendously gripping, because it’s like, oh well, this guy’s just like, the very best in the entire world at doing that. And I feel like I might have maybe not quite doors blowing off equivalent, but  something like it, to see someone be the best at a lot of stuff, like a basketball player or a baseball player. What other things would be? It’s like a mountain climber or something. It’s like, holy cow, you said someone solo, that guy hanging off the side of that cliff. He’s the best in the world.

 

Ellie Kemper  08:37

You’re talking about people who are indisputably the best in the world. And what’s nice about that is that it’s crystal clear that they are the best. Is that what you’re talking about.

 

Scott Eckert  08:46

It’s exactly what I’m talking about. I’m saying that Simone Biles. Simone Biles is a perfect example Ellie, of course, her gymnastic feats are amazing and interesting and fascinating, and all the all, they’re overwhelming in the same way that Idina Menzel singing is obviously very different. But they’re especially overwhelming because she’s so clearly better than everyone else. Oh, I love it when people are the best. Well, speaking of the best, we better get back to the world’s best podcast, and that’s born to love. Better get back to it. After the break, we are gonna be talking about a wonderful new exercise that I have fallen in love with called Hot Yoga. So stay tuned, and you’ll get to hear all about how I became a hot yogi.

 

Scott Eckert  09:50

And we’re back this week, we are going to talk about a newfound love of mine, hot yoga. But before I get into it, Ellie, I have. Ask, have you ever done hot yoga?

 

Ellie Kemper  10:03

I’ve never done it. I couldn’t be more surprised. I’m not 100% surprised, but I’m 80% surprised that you’re a lover of it. I’ve done regular yoga and I cannot find my groove, and I’ve never tried hot yoga, and I’m excited, and I want you to convince me that I should try it.

 

Scott Eckert  10:19

Can I tell you a quick funny story. Ellie.

 

Ellie Kemper  10:22

Yeah, we have time for a funny story on our podcast.

 

Scott Eckert  10:27

So I’m not really a yoga person, right? And as a younger man to talk about how old I am now, I’m talking about college age I was even less of a yoga person. I would go so far as to say that I was a little twerp. And if you try, if you tried to, did you just say I was kind of a tour?

 

Ellie Kemper  10:47

I was confirming, I was checking. I was fact checking and confirming the fact.

 

Scott Eckert  10:52

That I was a twerp in college. Yes. And if you told me that we were going to do yoga, I would have, I would have, I would have not been into it, but I took an acting class, a particular acting class with this, this troupe of theater folk who had been trained in French clowning, and we had three hour class. And the first hour of every class were these, like, super intense clowning exercises. And they were, like, really physical and really crazy, and you had to do, I think you know where this story is going. But the bottom line is, for months, twice a week, I would do an hour of these super intense French acting warm ups, these these clowning warm ups, and I would feel so refreshed and revived. And I would tell everyone at lunch at the dining hall and stuff. I was like, Guys, the acting class is fine, but let me tell you these clowning warm ups are the best. And as we finally approached the end of the semester, I finally mustered the courage to talk to one of these, you know, cool French clowning theater people. And I was like, you know, I love your class, but I really love, really love those clowning warm ups you do. And he was like, what are you talking about? And I was like, you know, those super cool French clowning things. And he was like, that’s just yoga.

 

Ellie Kemper  12:14

Oh my gosh. That was your intro. You were tricked into liking it.

 

Scott Eckert  12:20

And if I had known if they’d said, All right, guys, we’re gonna start with yoga. I promise you that twerp Scott would have been like, Oh, this is dumb, yes. And I would have endured it unhappily for an hour twice a week for the whole semester. But instead, because I thought that it was a cool French conning worm, I gave it a chance. And guess what, I kind of sort of loved it. But one thing I never expected to love was hot yoga, which is the same thing. It’s just stretches, guys. Because yoga, I mean, I guess the real yoga people get upset with me for sayings, it’s just tricky stretches. Yeah, in your experience, how would you describe yoga, Ellie?

 

Ellie Kemper  12:56

Well, I took a restorative yoga class once, which was like, We did three poses in an hour. We held each one for 20 minutes, and it was an it was a nap. So that is definitely gonna anchor some of the yoga aficionados. But that.

 

Scott Eckert  13:13

Was one of the poses lying on the ground, correct with.

 

Ellie Kemper  13:17

Like your your with your knees, you know, splayed out to the side, but when maybe a mat under your lower back, I can’t remember, or was that giving birth.

 

Scott Eckert  13:28

That wasn’t, I don’t think that that was very restorative, just that wasn’t.

 

Ellie Kemper  13:32

Restorative, and hardly a map, okay, but anyway, and I’ve taken a couple, but they’re mostly, they’re not, They don’t. The yoga classes I’ve taken have been have had a greater focus on, I guess I want to say the physical aspect, and like a pop aerobic type, not aerobic, but pop exercise type of class, rather than the spiritual component. I would say, Oh, does that make any sense?

 

Scott Eckert  13:57

No, it makes total sense. The Hot Yoga that I have recently gotten into is from a place they didn’t pay us folks, you know, we’re mercenaries. We like to plug things that, you know, give us money. But in this case, I’ll make an exception. Core power yoga is where I’ve been doing my hot yoga. And it’s exactly what you describe. It’s, it’s yoga stretches with with a little bit of of aerobic kind of sculpting involved. So there’s, like, little weights and things, but yeah, you do different stretches, and then they have you do some jumping jacks, and then they have you do some curls and funny positions. I mean, am I that’s the kind of yoga you’ve done? Is that right, Ellie?

 

Ellie Kemper  14:34

Kind of, yeah. I mean, yes, it is. It is, it is, I think. But what I’m fascinated, and there happens to be, the reason my ears are perked up as high as they could go is that there’s a core power yoga very close to me, located very close to me. And I’ve driven by it a number of times and thought, huh. And now the fact that you, one of my dearest friends in the world, who does not is a self proclaimed like not a. Exercise fanatic. I don’t know if you can proclaim yourself.

 

Scott Eckert  15:03

Self proclaimed, out of shape.

 

Ellie Kemper  15:05

No, not at all.

 

Scott Eckert  15:08

Definitely that is self proclaimed.

 

Ellie Kemper  15:10

I know. I just know that you don’t. You know what it is, Scott, it’s a blessing. I kind of I must exercise so that I stay or remain or become in a good mood. I’m, I’m addicted to endorphins. Okay, that makes it sound like I’m free soloing. I’m like, I’m addicted to the rush.

 

Scott Eckert  15:32

But no, I’m true.

 

Ellie Kemper  15:33

Yeah, I need endorphins to be in a good mood. But you don’t. You’re just in a good mood naturally. So I’m envious of that, but I’m really digressing. My point is that for someone who I don’t think is as enthusiastic I guess, about exercise all the time as I am, I’m overjoyed that you love this class, because that bodes well for me trying it. So what is it that you love about hot yoga specifically? Is it the high temps?

 

Scott Eckert  16:01

The high temps, definitely. Well, see the thing is, if we’re being 100% truthful, it’s a love hate relationship, right? Most things are, because this thing is, here’s  how it starts. You go into a pretty darkened room, and there’s a bunch of people who have come there with purpose, and that is to, like, get their groove on for an hour, right to, like, really test themselves, but not in like, and  I’m going to do like, a soul cycle class. I’ve never actually done Soul Cycle, but that seems intense to me I don’t want to be, like, getting my heart rate up to like, 200 i That’s not,  I’m not in good enough shape for that. These are people with purpose who’ve come to a quiet, peaceful place to sort of push themselves, and it’s also super fucking hot, right? So within the first five minutes, all you’re really doing there’s something called tabletop. Do you know what tabletop is? Just on your hands, and they’ve got a cool they’ve got a semi, I guess the tabletop is not that cool. A name. They’ve got code words for everything, right? Yes, tabletop, plank, mountain warrior one like, right? What is, there’s a sitting one that we do an awful lot. I forget what that’s called, chair pose.

 

Ellie Kemper  17:17

Chair Pose. That’s hard, are you, it is a wall?

 

Scott Eckert  17:21

No, you’re not doing anything. You’re just using the might of your thighs to hold you in a chair position, and everything’s in Chair Pose. That’s one of the things that, one of the things I like about it, is it’s easy to cheat. So there’s like, let’s get back to the experience. Okay, you walk into this peaceful place. It’s hot as fuck. Everyone’s there with purpose. You’re down, you’re down for an experience, right? And then the music starts. And the music I like is peppy, fun music. There was yoga instructor who’s using her wedding playlist. I was like, This is great. We got, you know, cool and the gang celebrate. We got YMCA, fun, fun songs, right? And for the first 15 minutes, I feel like a hero, and I feel like I’m getting a workout. And in those 15 minutes, despite the fact I’m doing stuff like tabletop, absolutely drenched deli, that’s where the hot comes in. It feels like a workout, because, yes, it’s so hot. I mean, and I’m a face sweater Ellie, I have just like, a ludicrous amount of of of sweat, especially on my face. So, I mean, it’s after nowhere. It’s like, I guarantee you that I my body is as just soaked after 15 minutes in hot yoga as it would be if I ran a very long race, there’s no doubt about it. And that’s the moment where I’m thinking to myself, and I kid you not,I think this is my new lifestyle. And I start thinking what if I did this every day? And then I start thinking, Should I start investing in yoga gear? Should I? Should I be getting branded mats? And should I start wearing different sorts of clothes? And then the next 15 minutes happen, and I’m like, Okay, well, maybe I’m not a yoga guy. And then the next 15 minutes happen and I feel like I want to die. And then the last 15 minutes I’m like, I’m taking it easy from here on out, guys, we’re coasting.

 

Ellie Kemper  19:24

The life cycle of your yoga experience is one that I relate to completely, but also it’s, I don’t know, it’s both inspiring and depressing, right? It’s also just normal. That’s what happens, right in a workout.

 

Scott Eckert  19:40

I guess so. I mean, I thought, because I’ve been doing it for a couple months now and, like a couple times a week for a couple months, it’s like sort of a lot. I’m still not any good. Everyone in the studio is better than I am, in a way that makes me feel ashamed sometimes.

 

Ellie Kemper  19:58

Scott. How can you rank? Isn’t that one of the like, I don’t know great things about yoga, which is that there is no rank. How can you be amazing at yoga? How can you there is there’s a it’s all mindset.

 

Scott Eckert  20:10

Well, it’s not all a mindset. When you’re doing like, it’s like, all right, we’re gonna do 100 curls, like, over the course of the session while in Chair Pose. And it’s like, well, guess what? Someone on this podcast can’t do that.

 

Ellie Kemper  20:27

Okay, so there is that, okay, but it’s more about, I mean, I would imagine, so you’re going there, well, like you said, with purpose. So what is you obviously love it. And so I do. Let me ask you this, do you feel better when you go into the studio or when you’re leaving the studio?

 

Scott Eckert  20:50

We’re getting into some deep stuff about what happiness is. Because when I step out of the studio, meaning the actual hot room, where the where the yoga is taking place. I feel about as miserable as I can feel. Oh, but I take a cool shower and I change. And when I walk out of the studio, and by Studio, I mean the yoga facility, the store, I feel the store, I feel like a million bucks. So, okay, I mean the endorphin thing […]

 

Ellie Kemper  21:26

Who will when you leave the studio, you’re the ashes after that cool shower and into the parking lot, you’re the Phoenix.

 

Scott Eckert  21:35

Couldn’t have possibly said better. You gotta, you gotta call up core power yoga and have them put that on a poster.

 

Ellie Kemper  21:43

When you leave our studio, you’re the ashes, I mean, but when you go into the parking lot, behold the Phoenix.

 

Scott Eckert  21:53

And then, and that’s in italic, so that there’s just a dash. Ellie Kemper, well, is that, I mean, because I’m so, because I’m so naive to to working on on a regular basis, would when it does, is my experience so different from, let’s say, for example, I know you like Soul Cycle. Is that what? Or I think Soul Cycle? Yeah, right. I were you used to?

 

Ellie Kemper  22:20

I used to like Soul Oh no, I still like Soul Cycle. I like peloton. I like running on my own. Here’s what I am constantly confused about, because I don’t know if you’ve ever experienced a yoga high. It sounds like you have in the first 15 minutes of class. That’s what I would compare to like a runner’s high. But what stinks is that it goes away, and then you’re left with fatigue. So I don’t know what to do with that. I don’t know what to do with that, but I do think overall, because Scott, do you feel later in your day a little bit better? Because I tend to feel I don’t I it’s like, the highs and the lows can be intense during the workout and immediately following, but then later on, I’ve noticed I’m like, Oh, I just feel calmer. And I think that’s what it is.

 

Scott Eckert  23:05

Yes, I think that’s right, it has a sort of, I don’t know, a sort of a balancing effect on my mood throughout the day. On the other hand, I should say, because I was such, and still am so new to the idea of exercising. The first time that I did it, I felt miserable on like a whole different level, and was having just splitting headaches, and I realized after the fact, that it was incredible dehydration, that like the gallons of sweat that were pouring out of me, and my whole body was starved for moisture and I now have a whole little practice of my own. I drink a lot of water beforehand. I drink water during which they encourage and then when I’m done, I give myself a little treat, which is actively frowned on by the people in the locker room. Ellie, when you have a particularly good workout, do you do you treasure? Do you reward yourself with something ever?

 

Ellie Kemper  24:07

I’m trying to think, I mean, I like those hydration drinks, which I’m sure just sugar, like the, I can’t think of what they’re called now, something like Gatorade, but not Gatorade. Thank you very much. Well, I mean, Gatorade is so basic.

 

Scott Eckert  24:22

Well, my treat is Gatorade, a red Gatorade. And I kind of set you up for that, because I figured that would be your opinion. I have a little red Gatorade, and I have something that I do not enjoy in any other context. And if you tried to give me eat it, like for lunch or something, I’d be like, gross. I have a little mini bag of Frito lays Ellie, literally just almost threw up in her mouth.

 

Ellie Kemper  24:53

I Scott, I know you. I love you. This couldn’t surprise me more. I mean. Oh, sorry, this couldn’t not surprise me more. Wait, I am not surprised because of who, to be honest with you, Scott, I when you told me that the other Yogis were frowning up on this in the locker room, I thought for just a split second you did bring in Taco Bell to have after and I thought that’s what it’s gonna be. And then when you told me Gatorade, I thought, of course, it’s red Gatorade. You’re cooling down with some red Gatorade, like people used to do in the 90s, I guess. But what you people.

 

Scott Eckert  25:32

Still drink Gatorade. It’s okay to drink Gatorade. You’re like, you’re like, hydration drink tastes so sophisticated you can’t even remember the name of what you like.

 

Ellie Kemper  25:42

It’s like plops. Thinks it’s something like with a Z. I can’t remember what it is. It’s it’s just sugar, but vitamin water. No vitamin water. Thank you. Thank you. Then to add on top that you’re eating Fritos, which Scott, I kind of understand, because I think part of rehydrating is having salts.

 

Scott Eckert  26:05

I think so too. I think I’ve discovered that because, first of all, I’m gonna paint a pretty unpleasant picture of myself, there’s this man, this 40 year old man, this gently overweight 40 year old man, pretty tall. I’m a tall guy.

 

Ellie Kemper  26:20

Oh, you’re describing yourself.

 

Scott Eckert  26:21

I’m describing I’m that’s why I use the word gently. But regardless, I’m in most people go to core power yoga. Are either like college age women or they’re like young women in their 20s who do yoga every day, and then there’s this, like, stinky, tall, lumbering oaf, who’s they’re wearing yoga gear, and I am wearing, like, the same Nike shirt that, like you, that you play, you wear to a game of pick up basketball. And then it and halfway through, it’s like, oh, the oaf is really struggling. And then I’m like, lumbering out of the studio, barely able to make it to the locker room. And then there’s like, the one other guy who who’s obviously way better than me, and he sees me sit my fat ass down on the bench, pop open a red Gatorade and start munching on some Fritos. I off. I have to wear two shirts. I wear my cool, like workout shirt on top of just a regular white undershirt, and the white undershirt is just completely saturated. So sometimes I have to take these, both these shirts off, and I’m sitting with without a shirt just caked in sweat, eating my Fritos and Gatorade. And that’s my nadir. That’s the bottom, that’s the rock bottom. Then I take my cold shower, I walk out to the parking lot, and I feel like a phoenix.

 

Ellie Kemper  27:55

Scott, I think you’ve just summed it up totally. Why you love hot yoga. How much it’s doing for your mind and body. And I think you’ve convinced not only me, but a whole lot of people out there to give it a try.

 

Scott Eckert  28:11

Idina, give it a try. She’s a big fan. She’s listening to this on her commute. Idina Menzel.

 

Ellie Kemper  28:17

Idina Menzel is humming along. Scott.

 

Scott Eckert  28:23

She’s composing a tune inspired by this conversation.

 

Ellie Kemper  28:27

Love of hot yoga. What I want nothing more is for you to become the best at hot yoga. I want you to be the Michael Jordan of hot yoga, and let the laughers laugh and the haters hate, because that man looking at you topless on that bench housing some Fritos, you know who’s gonna be laughing them. You at him when you’re the best.

 

Scott Eckert  28:54

All right? Well, you know, we’ll let Idina be the judge of that. If you’d all stick around. Please do we’re gonna play another riveting edition of our favorite game love is really blind, where Ellie is going to rank some random items that I throw at her right after the break. Stick around.

 

Scott Eckert  29:24

And we’re back.

 

Ellie Kemper  29:25

Guys, it’s not all hot yoga today. We love to end every little show with a little game. And today, Scott, I’m excited for this game. It is affectionately called Love is really blind.

 

Scott Eckert  29:40

It’s a ranking game. I’m gonna give Ellie five items, and she’s gonna have to put them in order from her most favorite to her least favorite, one to five. That’s how favorites work. But here’s the thing, she’s gonna have to do it blind. She’s not gonna know what the five items are. They’re secrets.

 

Ellie Kemper  29:54

So I’m only gonna get them as Scott tells me them, and I’m gonna rank them blindly, really, blindly.

 

Scott Eckert  29:59

And then she’s stuck with that ranking. That ranking is forever. It’s, it’s it’s on the internet, it’s on the podcast. It’s permanent. She can’t change it. So today, since we talked about hot yoga, she’s not a big hot yoga aficionado, we’re going to talk about an aficionado, someone who knows something about a lot or something, a lot about something anyway.

 

Ellie Kemper  30:18

Still haven’t come up with a zig burn.

 

Scott Eckert  30:22

Still haven’t come up with a better definition. All right, so these are five exercises. Ellie, you’re gonna have to rank them one to five. The first one pumping iron.

 

Ellie Kemper  30:35

I know already. And you know what, Scott, I’m so confident in my answer, you couldn’t name one thing that I despise more than pumping iron, number freaking five, number five, dead last.

 

Scott Eckert  30:47

So that’s free weights. So that’s, like, that’s what I’m talking what’s do, you know how much you can bench press Ellie?

 

Ellie Kemper  30:52

Well, that’s is pumping iron always free weights. I mean, isn’t it? Also like pushing things. And I hate lifting weights. I hate it. I hate any sort of strength exercise. I’m arguably weak in that sense, because I’ve never had good upper body strength. I have to work on it. And the minute I go a day without working on it, it’s gone. So it’s been gone for years, because I haven’t done a push up in years. I hate pumping iron.

 

Scott Eckert  31:18

Okay, well, then that does seem like a clear five. There you go. All right. Second one, Ellie, swimming.

 

Ellie Kemper  31:25

Oh, easy. Uh, hmm. I don’t love swimming, but it’s.

 

Scott Eckert  31:29

Better than competing for five.

 

Ellie Kemper  31:32

I know the woman, the woman, the self proclaimed exercise enthusiast. Now, trying to figure out how to make everything a five, because I want everything to be a five. No, I would say swimming three, three. I can take it or leave it. I It’s not near. I don’t dread it nearly as much as pumping iron. Um, swam a lot when I was pregnant and loved it, but haven’t swam a bunch and don’t like getting wet. So number three.

 

Scott Eckert  32:01

I personally, this is not me doing the ranking. I enjoy playing in the water, but like swimming, especially as a workout, seems like no fun at all.

 

Ellie Kemper  32:09

It’s hard because what are you thinking about?

 

Scott Eckert  32:12

Well, isn’t that true for running as well, Ellie?

 

Ellie Kemper  32:15

I can have ear pod. I can listen to something. So I don’t know what in the I’m sure there are ways. And you swimmers who are listening, you’ll tell me that there are underwater. Walkman, there must be Walkman, Oh, really.

 

Scott Eckert  32:28

All right, next one. Ellie, where does it rank? Tennis?

 

Ellie Kemper  32:33

Oh, no, that’s 4.

 

Scott Eckert  32:35

Oh 4, I don’t like you’re not gonna like your final rankings. You’re not a tennis player, Ellie?

 

Ellie Kemper  32:41

No, and I don’t like it. It’s hot. I never stay in the lines. I play what some people call big tennis. I pay no attention to boundaries.

 

Scott Eckert  32:51

What is big tennis?

 

Ellie Kemper  32:52

It’s when you don’t pay attention to the lines. Just sort of hit the ball.

 

Scott Eckert  32:57

All right. Next one. Ellie erging, or rowing, like the rowing scene.

 

Ellie Kemper  33:04

Scott, I don’t have any regrets about this at all, and I pray, that you get something good for number one. I’m gonna put erging At number two, because I can listen to something while I’m doing it. I like that. It’s aerobic. I could, all I need to do is put on something good, some good music, or a good like exercise instructor, and I could erg. My brains out. Do you do?

 

Scott Eckert  33:29

Why is it called an erg?

 

Ellie Kemper  33:31

I have a feeling I know landline. Well, I’m gonna guess it has something to do with an ergometer. But what is an ergometer? Oh, is that obvious to everyone?

 

Scott Eckert  33:41

I don’t even know what an ergometer is.

 

Ellie Kemper  33:44

I guess I have no idea what. What’s the derivation of ERG, because you’re, you know why, Scott, because as you’re rowing, you’re like ERG because you’re so miserable.

 

Scott Eckert  33:55

That’s what it is, all right? This is, this is the last one, and by definition, it’s your first and favorite running a marathon.

 

Ellie Kemper  34:03

Oh, Scott, I’m not disappointed. I really, really hated running the marathon as I was running it. For those of you who don’t know I, oh, ran a marathon. Not a big deal. I completed a marathon. I didn’t run the whole way.

 

Scott Eckert  34:20

And this is your favorite way of exercising, according to these rankings.

 

Ellie Kemper  34:23

It is, geez. I mean, love is really blind. Is such a killer game, because it will take you and it will it will throw it does not matter, it will chew you up and spit you out. I’m now here telling you that running a marathon is my favorite form of exercise, but yeah, by the love is really blind standards. Yeah, that’s my favorite extra.

 

Scott Eckert  34:44

So here you go, guys, the final one. Ellie’s ranking, number one, marathoning, number two, erging, number three, swimming, number four, tennis and number five, pumping iron. That’s the official Ellie Kemper list. Put it on Instagram, retweet it, favorite it, etc. Uh. Ah, well, this has been a tremendously fun episode. Ellie, I had a great time sharing my love of hot yoga with you. Thank you, as always.

 

Ellie Kemper  35:09

Thank you, Scott. I had a tremendously fun time hearing about hot yoga. Scott, is there anything that you were looking forward to this week?

 

Scott Eckert  35:17

Well, I’m so glad you asked Ellie. In fact, there is my sister is coming to town. She’s coming to town for Thanksgiving. I know it’s not quite Thanksgiving yet, but Thanksgiving break is coming up. So yeah, I’m a family in town. How about you? Ellie, are you looking forward to anything in the coming week?

 

Ellie Kemper  35:35

Scott, yes, something like that is happening to me, too. Except my parents are coming to town. My parents are coming to town, which sometimes people say, Oh, your parents are in town. But I’m looking forward to it, because not only is it my dad’s birthday, it’s my sweet little niece’s birthday. So we’re gonna have a double birthday celebration, double the cake, double the pizza. I’m always up for a double B Day celebration, and that’s what we’re having.

 

Scott Eckert  35:58

Well, you know, I’m gonna go on a limb that your dad maybe doesn’t listen to our podcast every week, so it’s okay for you to spoil it. What are you getting your dad for his birthday?

 

Ellie Kemper  36:11

Well, it is so easy to get a birthday gift for my dad because he has so many interests. So he likes gardening, he likes the outdoors. He likes exercise. He likes to play golf. He likes sunshine and mountains and history. He sounds like a renaissance.

 

Scott Eckert  36:26

Sunshine related gift. It’s a SPF 50.

 

Ellie Kemper  36:35

A new pair of, oh my gosh, what are the words, a new pair of Oakleys? I mean, anything. It’s so easy to shop for him. And you are correct, he has never listened to the podcast.

 

Scott Eckert  36:47

Well, the reason, the reason I ask is that, my dad is a hard person to buy presents for. He also never listens to the podcast. So I can say, I would say, about half the gifts that I’ve given him for my 40 years on this earth have been books, and I’m quite confident he’s read none of them.

 

Ellie Kemper  37:09

Oh, he’s easy to shop for. I don’t mean that he uses any of the gifts I give. I have a barometer that I got him when I was maybe nine. I mean, with the help of my mom, and the barometer has laid i It’s probably still in its spot. Most recently I saw it when we when I was moving some of my stuff out. You know, after college, that barometer was never used. You know, it.

 

Scott Eckert  37:31

If a barometer tells the pressure of the atmosphere inside a box and no one sees it.

 

Ellie Kemper  37:39

Oh, well, Ellie, still is it still thick? How do you measure pressure? Thick? High?

 

Scott Eckert  37:47

Low? I get  I don’t know. There’s probably some acronym. Oh boy. Well, I hope that all of you listening have plenty of things to look forward to in your week. Next week, Ellie, you want to take us out.

 

Ellie Kemper  37:59

Thank you everyone so much for joining us for another episode of Born to Love. If you want to find me, I’m @EllieKemper on Instagram.

 

Scott Eckert  38:08

And I’m @meScottEckert on Twitter, be sure to leave us a five star review. And if you have any thoughts or questions in the show, send us an email. We have our own email address. Guys, the inbox is flooded. Please add your message to the torrent. It’s borntolovefeedback@gmail.com.

 

CREDITS  38:23

Born to Love is a production of Lemonada Media our producers are Kegan Zema and Aria Bracci.  Our engineers are Ivan Kuraev and James Sparber. Our SVP of weekly production is Steve Nelson, and our cover art photography is by Tony Russo. Executive Producers are Jessica Cordova Kramer, Stephanie Wittels Wachs, Ellie Kemper and Scott Eckert follow Born To Love. Wherever you get your podcasts or listen ad free on Amazon music with your Prime membership. We’ll be back next week with more Born to Love. But before we go, in the immortal words of yoga master Rolf Gates, yoga is not a workout, it’s a work in. There’s more Born To Love with Lemonada Premium subscribers get exclusive access to bonus content where we flip the script and talk about something we don’t love.This week, I Ellie gripe about baggage carousel lines. Here are gripes, not just our loves, but only if you subscribe in Apple podcasts.