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After being homebound for so long, most of us are feeling the urge to run wild, to cause chaos, to stir things up…which is exactly what Georgia, Kulap’s pitbull mix, did two weeks ago. So Kulap invested in AirTags, not only for her dogs, but for her keys, Scott’s keys, and soon probably herself! Meanwhile, SuChin has been thinking a lot about tennis. Plus, the moment has finally come: Su and Ku answer listener (not SuChin’s) voicemails!

 

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SPEAKERS

Emma, Jasmine, Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak, Shannon

SuChin Pak  00:11

Hey, everyone, welcome to another beautiful episode of ADD TO CART. Now this is the show about things we buy and buy into. But most importantly, what those things say about who we are. I’m SuChin Pak.

Kulap Vilaysack 

And boy do we say what we are on this podcast? I am your Kulap Vilaysack. SuChin, how’s the week been for you, friend?

SuChin Pak

It’s been jam packed. And I thought going into summer I had this idea, as I do every summer, easy, breezy, you know? But it’s just been a scramble, and I don’t know what it is, it must be something in the stars. You know, I’m in the process of moving. My parents…

Kulap Vilaysack

Look, by the way that alone.

SuChin Pak 

That alone, that period, then, um, after a year, well, this past year, how it’s been, my parents are finally moving to my town.

Kulap Vilaysack  01:11

From the Bay Area.

SuChin Pak

From the Bay Area, we’ve talked about this, it was just the right time between waking up and worrying about their safety, they’re getting older. And while everything is opening up, it’s not opening up enough for my parents are leaving the house. Or that they feel safe leaving the house. So they’re just stuck in this house, by themselves. And so all of those factors combined, so they’re moving, and they literally moved here yesterday. By the way, they’re putting their house in the market, and they moved here, and I said to my mom, I was like okay, so I have to go back and actually pack up the house. And I said well, what is the state of the house? Like how many people do I need to call to help us do this. And I think what they did, from what I gather is they just put everything they own in a series of garbage bags, and put it all in the garage.

SuChin Pak  02:16

They came here with a car full of plants, a car full of plants in garbage bags, and a cooler full of Korean food. And also like Costco food that they didn’t need to pack and I said where is your stuff? They’re like in the garage.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Where are your clothes?

SuChin Pak 

Where are your pots, your pans? Where are the toiletries? Why are there so many plants in garbage bags, your social security cards? Anything? Yesterday and today is just like, it’s like questions then it goes to screening, and then it goes to questions and then it goes to screaming. And the screaming is like it’s like harmless screaming it’s like we’re all annoyed with each other screaming it’s not like hateful scream but I’m like what do you mean?

Kulap Vilaysack

Well, to me, that’s what in my family we call communication. When Scott came into Minnesota for the first time at one point I looked at him shocked I was like what’s going on? He’s like you guys are so loud. And nobody’s fighting, nobody’s fighting at this time.

SuChin Pak 

Oh no, this is not fighting and we’re saying mean things to each other. Anything. You don’t know one thing about anything just a lot of that to each other.

Kulap Vilaysack 

That’s great. You don’t know one thing about anything.

SuChin Pak 

Nothing, you know nothing about anything about one thing just screaming and then it’s fine and then she’s making me breakfast sandwiches and I’m you know anyway so that’s been my week what about your week?

Kulap Vilaysack  04:02

You know, let’s get into our add to carts. So my add to carts have everything to do with on Saturday, I had friends over for just some pool times with my girlfriends. Such a good time, perfect weather for it. And then at towards the end of our time, like around three. I’ve lost track of Georgia. Oh boy. I lost track of my dog Georgia. Molly, the smaller one is beside me. And I cannot find Georgia. I’m calling for Georgia. She had slipped out; she had slipped out of my backyard.

SuChin Pak 

I didn’t know, is Georgia a runner?

Kulap Vilaysack

She’s not a runner. She’s found an opening in our back fence that in the year and a half that we’ve lived here. She has gone out of twice. But has just sat there, but she’s never like, ran. And I lost her. Oh, Casey and Matt. Were in the hot tub with me when I realized that I couldn’t find her. They in their swimsuits wrapped with towels, they get into their cars, they’re looking for her. I’m on my e-bike zipping around the neighborhood calling Georgia, Georgia. Scott’s like, seeing if she’s like, stuck in between, like our neighbor’s fence and our fence. And I the whole at this point, I’m like, fine, like, I’m like, it’s okay, we’re gonna find her. It’s fine. Like, I’m like, it’s all business. Let’s look what’s good. You know, we’re gonna get her. Pass after pass, not finding her. Casey’s husband, David joins in looking for her.

Kulap Vilaysack 

My fellow e-bike gang, Kevin […] and John […] starts searching for her. And then, I don’t know, two hours in, I’m like, oh, no, like, where is she? SuChin, she doesn’t have her collar on. You know, if somebody grabs her, they don’t know what to do with her. She’s microchips but you know, still. And these hills, they have coyotes that roam during the day. So at one point, I think about this coyotes and I just sort of like spiral. Thankfully, Casey, and Matt make flyers. They straight up paper and canvas the entire neighborhood. I was like at a place where like, I’m no good outside. I got to go inside.

SuChin Pak  06:41

Were you just frozen or were you sobbing?

Kulap Vilaysack 

I was sobbing. I was like, it’s my fault, I knew that there was an opening. I lost track of her. At one point Casey’s called me. She was like Kulap, somebody has her and they don’t know what to do with her. I could just like everything she said, I was like, okay, okay. Okay. I was like, I gotta get home. And I just started cleaning. Started cleaning because I was like, I don’t know what to do. And like, I’m just like, I feel bad. I feel bad that my friends are helping. I feel bad. You know what I mean?

SuChin Pak 

You have to clean. There’s nothing to do in that emotional moment. That’s right. You have to match the tops to the bottoms right now. Like, that’s the only thing that your body can do. I get it.

Kulap Vilaysack 

And then so I cleaned upstairs. And then I have my friend Laura, who was at the pool times before laughs because she had company coming over. And when she heard this, she merely got her car and started helping papering. You know, like, I have the best friends like they just completely shouldered the stress and like, took action. And I had cleaned up everything. And then I was like, I’m going downstairs to clean up by the pool. Let me clean up by the pool. And as I walked out, and I’ve been listening to Scott, at one point, he was like, Georgia loves toys. And you’ve met George or you’ve seen how she loves toys.

Kulap Vilaysack  08:14

He just started going to the perimeter of our houses. And just like using a squeak toy, over and over and over, and then calling her name. And for Scott, it’s a quiet distress. You know what I mean? And he loves this girl so much like as Scott.. Yeah. As I see and controlled and put together but like two hours in that’s when, like, it’s like, we need to get on next door. We needed to tweet. We need to Instagram, we need to do all that in case somebody has her and doesn’t know what to do with her, maybe? And you know, Scott’s very private. You know, he’s not talking about our sex life.

SuChin Pak 

Is it? I missed that on his last four podcasts.

Kulap Vilaysack 

In our podcast. SuChin, doesn’t talk about my sex life. I talk about my sex life. That’s our valance on Add To Cart. And just to throw in that Scott never talks about our sex life. And he’s the other person I’m having sex with. I’m having sex with myself. […] I digress. Where am I going? Okay, so Scott..

SuChin Pak 

He went from martyr until like, I don’t know what you know in just in a flash of a moment. Anyway, we hold multitudes as my friend Kulap once told me, we hold multitudes.

Kulap Vilaysack 

All things can be true. So I’m like I’m hearing him squeaking and I’m like, I’m gonna go downstairs and I’m gonna clean downstairs. And as I am walking down I hear Scott say Georgia, where were you? I go what? And then a second later, she’s happily starts bounding towards me into my arms and I’m just like, oh my god, just like I burst out crying. And in the flash of holding her, and being so relieved, I was reminded of a memory. And that was a memory. When Alyssa, my youngest sister was nine years old. We went to Disneyland and at the end of the night, she needed to get a goofy hat. And so, Disneyland clothes, we never got it during Disneyland. We went to the big shop that they have in Downtown Disney. It’s huge. It’s over a block, so she could find it. I lost track of her. I lost track of her for like, an hour.

SuChin Pak  10:51

I can’t take this amount of sweating and adrenaline. I’m like having a hard time. Oh, my God. I need to clean my Tupperware.

Kulap Vilaysack 

I begged and pleaded for them to please let me say on the intercom for her to meet me at this wretched meeting. They’re like, no, no, we can’t do that. They finally did it. In my head. You know, the coyotes. I’m like Disneyland, pedophiles like that, like I lost my sister. And when I found her, I cried, and I grabbed her to the point where Scott’s like, let her go and handed me a stuffed stitch like you can squeeze that. And that was the same feeling that I had grabbing Georgia. And then she had come back. We looked at like the security cams. And you see her bounding up the open driveway that we kept open now, the gate was wide open.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Looking for Scott with a squeaker looking for and from his vantage point. He was squeaking and then he looked back and she’s poked her head through the fence looking at like, hey, looking for me? That I care in the world. And we can see her running towards me and like it was this like, these are close relationships. This is not like, this is like true love this is like, like this dog breaks, like regulates me. When I get upset, she puts her little paw on my knee. And brings me right to the present like this dog. I mean, oh my god. So what a long story to tell you about. So I can explain my add to cart.

Kulap Vilaysack  12:44

So when I thankfully was able to share with people online, she came back here’s an update. Our dog trainer, Chris Nguyen from K9 Logic, who none better by the way dog owners in LA. He’s got an amazing spot in Burbank. Check him out. We’ll definitely tag him in our post about this episode. He was like, get this, get this for next time. And what this is, is a product by Apple called the AirTag and SuChin do you know about the AirTag?

SuChin Pak 

No. Will I be putting this in my children’s shoe. Is this like one of those things?

Kulap Vilaysack 

Yes, it’s like a tile. But it’s an Apple product and what it does, somewhat controversially is that it basically uses all iPhones, all Apple products to help locate what kind of like find my phone. But locate this let you know whatever item you is, or it’s okay, so this is where it’s controversial is like you know, stalking and surveillance. You know what I mean, like, you know, I’m not above what next time I see you drop one of these AirTags, like in your purse.

SuChin Pak  14:04

It will never move. And you’re like, is she alive? And you’re like, Kulap. We can’t send another EMT over there. We’re there last week. If she doesn’t move, then she’s fine.

Kulap Vilaysack

What Apple also recommend it is like for pet tracking. But I think it’s because like a liability, right? Like, a living thing. You know, like, hey, I put it on my dog. And I couldn’t find him and it’s your fault. So bad product. I think that’s what it is. I really done a deep dive on these things. Never heard about it. These are brand new, but this happened and I’m like, well guess what we’re adding to cart we’re adding a four pack.

SuChin Pak 

Did you see that AirTag as it partnership with Hermes?

Kulap Vilaysack 

Oh yeah, I was just about to tell you about that. But SuChin, it’s a remove from cart because SuChin, it is so expensive.

SuChin Pak 

I know I saw that. I was like, please do not tell me you got that AirTag Hermes version. Okay. I

Kulap Vilaysack 

I mean, that was gonna be my like that was my last thing to tell you about. No, no, no, no.

SuChin Pak 

No, I saw that down there I was like excusez-moi.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Yeah, so the Hermes one is leather. And then like the actual AirTag is like embossed with Hermes. Think about it. I think about things all the time.

 

SuChin Pak 

You thought about a Gucci bucket hats? You thought about it? Okay. You took it to the Council. The council rejected.

Kulap Vilaysack 

They did.

SuChin Pak 

By the way, the council would reject this on the price. Like no.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Tell them the price.

SuChin Pak 

Well, each one I mean, I don’t even know I’m looking on here. It looks like for one of them. They go up to $4.49 for a luggage tag. And then you know, $2.99 for a small little key chain.

Kulap Vilaysack  16:05

It’s so expensive.

SuChin Pak 

Because you can get four of them for $99.00.

Kulap Vilaysack  16:10

Four of them, that’s the four pack individually. I believe they’re $29. Four pack, one for Georgia, one for Molly. SuChin, I have been losing my keys a lot lately. One for Kulap, one for Scott who has also been losing keys a lot lately. We’re getting old. We’re all getting old.

SuChin Pak 

Listen, I posted to my feed that for 12 days minimum. I had no idea where my keys were in the car because I was starting the car. And I was the car starting I know it’s in the car. But my car is a garbage can. It’s a garbage can. Knee high in trash. And when I mean trash, I mean my children’s junk. Because if it was just trash, I’m not an insane person, I would throw it away, but it’s not. It’s stuffed animals, water bottles and sandals and dress shoes and pants and suspenders and rocks and sticks that all have meaning. And so anyway, my daughter ended up finding it, but it was like two weeks. I was like they’re in here. Starting my car. I digress. So AirTag. Okay, so this is like a tile. But obviously, it’s nice because it’s integrated with all your Apple stuff if you already have that, you don’t have to add on.

Kulap Vilaysack

Yeah, so because Apple doesn’t recommend this for pet tracking, go to a third party to find various ways to connect these to your dogs. And so that’s the other deep dive that I went to finally I found one that is I pre ordered to arrive in July. It’s called TagVault by elevation lab. So I was going on Etsy. There’s ones on Etsy, there’s one on Amazon.

SuChin Pak  18:02

Can you use the Apple product in here, or this is totally different?

Kulap Vilaysack 

No matter what, unless you drop these little AirTags, like you can put in your wallet. Yeah, but if you’re gonna put on your keys, you’re gonna need something to encase it to, for a key chain. And so on Etsy, and on Amazon, they have various like color things, but the issue is, while the AirTag is supposedly waterproof,

SuChin Pak 

Yeah, this is fully, fully submergible It looks like because it’s encased.

Kulap Vilaysack 

And Georgia loves to swim. So I was like, I gotta find something that is waterproof.

SuChin Pak 

By the way, $90.95 and they have a key chain for $12.95 that you can put in. This is such a good find.

Kulap Vilaysack

Now this is my new lifestyle of course. And then also add to cart is for me the AirTag leather key ring in saddle Brown. So I’m not going to do, I’m not going to do Hermes. Like, that’s insane even for me, but I will spend 35 which ain’t cheap by the way for an Apple branded leather key ring.

SuChin Pak

My thing is, is that I can be the knee-deep trash car lady. If I surround myself with people who are saddle brown key chain people do you know what I’m saying? Like, you allow me to be this because I know that just by proxy, I am near the saddle Brown. Do you understand what I’m saying? It’s highbrow-lowbrow fashion which most of the people in my life are like you and that’s not a coincidence. That is by design. Because when I go on a girls trip to Palm Springs with my two beautiful friends who are head to toe in silks and have 10s and turbans, and I’m wearing Amazon Jr sweat pants that they what does Amazon Jr. You can buy sweat pants if you’re my size, okay in the juniors department and extra-large, and it’s fine, they write up a little, but what I do is I pull up my black socks to meet and match the bottom of it.

SuChin Pak  20:25

And I can dress like that because I’m surrounded by luxury. So when I go into a store, they say, oh, she’s the eclectic one. She’s not the trash woman. Do you know what I’m saying? Again, you guys are all my pawns, you know. So, please, continue to buy the saddle brown so that I can pawn off sit amongst.

Kulap Vilaysack 

I mean, that was gymnastics what she just said.

SuChin Pak  20:58

So I don’t have an Add To Cart this week. I have a remove from cart this week. And you know, it’s a story. Obviously, that broke a few weeks ago. But you know, it’s just been on my mind a lot. It’s the whole story around Naomi Osaka, and how she pulled out of the French Open. So for those that don’t know, on June 5th, she withdrew from the French Open because she didn’t want to talk to the press. She cited mental health issues, and they fine her $15,000. And she withdrew. I want to back up just a little bit to give you a little bit more context about her. Because until that happened, I hadn’t quite put it all together. While the pandemic was happening. And she wasn’t really training. She really got into the Black Lives movement and really, you know, put herself on the line being vocal about it.

SuChin Pak 

She flew to Minnesota to protest when the George Floyd protests were happening. She wrote a fantastic opinion piece in Esquire about it. And all of that to say that when she came back to the tennis game, in late August, September of last year, the protests were still happening. The timeline, I may be not getting perfect, but the sentiment is here, she stopped in the middle of the tournament to say, quote, before I’m an athlete, I am a black woman. And what she wanted to do was bring attention to the fact that outside of what she was doing on the tennis courts, life was happening and life was happening in a really, really huge historic way. She wore a mask that said Briana Taylor to that game, she has emerged as a young woman who is, has found her voice, has found her place, you know, in her life and wants to matter .ore than as an athlete or a celebrity.

SuChin Pak 

You know what I mean? Like there’s a real drive, you can see that with her. She’s always dealt with mental health issues and depression, and she has been vocal about it. This is not news to anyone; you don’t even have to be a big tennis fan to understand that about her personality. She is very much this way. And as she was going into the French Open this past week, she had asked them, could I not do press and really focus on the game, I’m feeling very fragile. They find her $15,000 because when you play in these tournaments, part of the contract is that you do press. And so you can imagine that this is a woman, a young woman who has been in the spotlight, she is the highest paid female athlete in the world. And she is dealing with anxiety and depression and mental health issues. And for her to take care of that she had to withdraw from the press portion of the tournament.

Kulap Vilaysack 

She knew that she would be fined. She understood that. But she made that choice.

SuChin Pak  24:02

That’s right. And the tennis, for the French Tennis Federation tweeted a poster of the four other players participating in that tournament. With the caption, well, they understood the assignment.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Ew, that’s gross. That’s really gross. I didn’t know that one. I didn’t know that one. Wow.

SuChin Pak 

Yeah. So I think in so many ways, it takes the most powerful female athletes in the world to challenge some of these old guard, male dominated institutions that have had rules that maybe don’t make sense for everyone. I think it’s pretty powerful that a young woman coming of age during this time, has found her voice and stuck up a middle finger and said, this is the way I’m doing it, take it or leave it, you know, Tennessee I mean, tennis, golf. A lot of these sports have a very, very terrible history with people of color, the women. You know, I mean, any change is going to be met with lots of resistance because people like it to be the way it was, status quo, especially when you’re on top. And when someone comes and is not of that group, and decides that I’m not playing by those rules anymore, just because you were the one to establish those roles, things are going to get heated and I for one, applaud, I can’t wait to see what happens.

Kulap Vilaysack 

All these institutions, they don’t want to get shookt but that’s what’s happening. That’s and so we’re talking about an evolution.

SuChin Pak 

I hope so.

Kulap Vilaysack 

I think the resistance is futile doesn’t mean me saying that will change how you know these generally powerful organizations will operate but I think this reckoning it’s everywhere guys, embrace it. I just say like for you for your own self-care institution to find ways to embrace it. Okay, let’s take a quick break. We are back on ADD TO CART and we are finally SuChin, can you believe this SuChin, we’re finally after pleading and whining mainly whining? We’re gonna hear some voicemails.

SuChin Pak  26:41

Oh, I feel like an official podcast. You know when I listened to other podcasts and like we have voicemails that. My god we have voicemail. This feels so official.

Jasmine 

Hi, SuChin and Kulap. My name is Jasmine […]. I’m a she/her. I’m obsessed with the podcast. I laugh out loud every week and I’m calling to tell you my underwear preference is I put on new underwear in the morning. And then before bed, I take them off and put on pajama pants and sleep commando. I’ve also asked all my friends, and now judge them based on their underwear preferences. I have a friend who told me she only changes her as every other day. So I’m really disturbed by this information. And I’m still processing it. But anyway, I love the podcast. Keep it up. Thank you for sharing with us. Bye.

Kulap Vilaysack

Jasmine, thank you so much. SuChin’s gonna feel different. She’s gonna jump in, in one second. But I think that that’s right, because your hoo ha needs to breathe at night. Breathe. Yeah, yeah. Dr. Oz says, he did he did I swear to you Dr. Oz says that you should go commando for bedtime to let it breathe to let her breathe and him too because sometimes those balls they get hot girl.

SuChin Pak  28:06

I wouldn’t know. Jasmine First of all, number one caller, our first. And I think it’s only right that our first color is on the topic of underwear personalities. Kulap, let’s be honest, you and I both collectively gasped when Jasmine said that her friend changes her underwear every other day.

Kulap Vilaysack 

So what’s going on? What’s happening? What’s why.

SuChin Pak

That is a cry for help. Jasmine, you need to go over there what she is telling you without telling you is intervene. Go over there bring a beverage of choice. Some snacks, she needs some cuddle time you know it’s been a long isolation period. And it just sounds like she just needs some love, some rocking some cradling. Now in terms of going commando..

Kulap Vilaysack 

This is something you, have you ever gone Commando?

SuChin Pak

My underwear situation only got crazy after children. Before kids from time to time No, not willy nilly akimbo. Let’s hold it back. At night. […] A pajama bottom is enough. Okay. And in terms of your hoo-ha breathing? I mean, there’s no lungs down. What is it breathing and are you suffocating eat during the day?

Kulap Vilaysack 

Well, SuChin, I’m not but I have a feeling you are.

SuChin Pak 

Just layers and layers like cotton…

Kulap Vilaysack

I feel like your stuff is like mummied up.

SuChin Pak 

Guess what? When a newborn comes into the world, what do they do? You swaddle it. You got to swaddle it.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Alright, I guess I didn’t think about it that way.

SuChin Pak 

Yeah, so you swaddle you swaddle your most precious baby. So thank you Jasmine.

Kulap Vilaysack  30:03

Again, as SuChin as always said, number one, it’s about safety.

SuChin Pak 

Safety, number two, it’s about warmth. Both of those things need to happen, ladies.

Emma 

Hi, my name is Emma, my pronouns are she/her/hers. So I love the podcast I like to bake. So I’ve been listening to it, and I’ve been baking recently. Also, this may sound like an insult, I promise, it’s a compliment. I listened to the podcast as I fall asleep. I’m a very anxious person doing this voicemail has made me anxious, but I’m going for it. And so I have one thing that I recently added to cart that I have a suggestion. So the thing that I’ve added to cart, it’s a hobby, I have been getting into acrylic pour painting. I don’t know how much you know about this. But essentially, you get some paint a pouring medium, I use a mixture of glue and water. And then a canvass, mix it all together, dumped it on the canvas tilt around a bit, and then you’re left with this like awesome design. And you can get fancy with it or even keep it simple either way, it usually come out looking super cool. And it’s been something that’s kind of helped me the last over quarantine also made me feel good about myself because it comes out with something really cool. So I recommend that. And then something that I was wondering you have any suggestions for any products that you buy or any practices that I could start to help my anxiety, maybe particularly at night, or just whenever either would be great. So thank you so much. I hope you have a great day.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Emma, thank you so much for calling. Okay, first of all, I want to say could you please story, what your acrylic pour art, just examples and tag us so that I can see I kind of can picture what it is because I’m very interested in it. Very.

SuChin Pak

Absolutely. And, Emma, the fact that you acknowledge your anxiety as you were making the call like Emma, you’re, you’re us, you’re me, you’re Ku, you’re particularly me, I from the pit of my stomach know I just relate to everything that you’re talking about. Now, anxiety around sleep is my lifestyle. You know, that is my identity, I’ve been that way since I was a child it did not suddenly develop I don’t have a memory, where I it’s not about anxiously being like, my first memories are around having a lot of anxiety about sleep. If you don’t mind, Ku, I’m gonna have to product add to carts. And then one sort of helpful tip. I think anxiety around sleep is such a personal issue because it depends on what your anxiety is about, you know, I have anxiety around sleep, I think because so much of the trauma around my childhood happened at night.

SuChin Pak  33:02

You know, whether it was on my parents fighting or just like he did discussions around the house kind of happened at night. All of that is so deeply personal. So to kind of understand, like, where that anxiety comes from. But also there isn’t a solution that fits everybody, you know, because I think we all have different reasons why we’re anxious at night. I’ve tried everything, I’ve tried the Xanax, I’ve tried the Ambiens. I’ve tried, I mean, every form of medication, it helps for a little bit, but eventually it stops helping and then it can also be very destructive. So one thing is that sleep is not a switch. You don’t like get in bed after having running adrenaline and being anxious all day.

SuChin Pak

And suddenly you’re like, okay, body time to sleep. Your body is running on adrenaline all day. Like you have to be mindful of that. And for me what I realized that my anxiety when I noticed it would get really high, right around five, six o’clock. Why? Because I knew that nighttime was before me, you know, so very mindful of when trying to figure out ways to feel sooth. So you’re not drinking a coffee at three or four o’clock when you’re feeling kind of low. You’re not like, you know, doing something anxious or doing something that causes a lot of adrenaline. What you want to do is you want to ease into it. So by the time you get to bed, you’ve had a few hours where you’re very mindful of taking care of that anxiety.

Kulap Vilaysack  34:39

So that’s also why you do your showers around that.

SuChin Pak 

I do my showers around that time. That’s very relaxing for me, but it’s also kind of wakes me up because you don’t, you’re not going to sleep at five o’clock, you know, you stop to do stuff. So I brush my teeth, either like these little things are things that feel very soothing. So two things. I will add to cart to try again everybody’s different is I’ve talked about this and I’ll put it in our feed. I do a sublingual one, one milligram, I think that’s the dosage, melatonin, and you put it under your tongue. And it’s just one milligram because what I like to do is built on it. Because sometimes when you take melatonin and it’s at five, you may not need that, do you know what I mean? Like, I like being able to slowly control, sometimes I can get away with two, and sometimes I need seven. And then the thing I’ve been experimenting with and having a lot of success with is a liquid melatonin that Mahandra recommended when she was last here.

Kulap Vilaysack

I was just gonna mention that.

SuChin Pak 

And I bought that. So you can try those two things. And I use the when I use the dropper, because it’s a really high dosage, I just use the dropper, I don’t then add on the tablets, the tablets are for every day. One thing that has helped me is as I listened to this lecture once, and when you’re in that moment at night, and you get yourself really worked up, okay, so you in there at night, and it’s pitch black, and you know, you have to sleep, the thing that gives me comfort is that you don’t have to sleep, what all you have to do is just rest your body. You don’t have to sleep, you don’t, you really can you can, you can function the next day on just really resting. And so it takes the pressure off of I have to sleep, I think what is often draining is the no sleep plus on top of it, the anxiety all night long, then you wake up and you’re just spent, you know, cuz you’ve been doing it for eight hours having a mild panic attack. So if you can really get a control of that anxiety, too, and know that you don’t have to sleep.

Kulap Vilaysack  36:52

I sleep hard, and I sleep fast. But when I spin, boy do I spin. And something that has worked for me is in terms of counting is to just go through a gratitude list. If that takes you into you know, the hundreds, that’s pretty good life, right? But then also okay, I’ll just throw the one thing that and this is like do as I say not as I do scenario, which is like to I’m so bad at this is to just remove screens, have no screens have no light, no all of that, like put it in another room. I never do it. But I know that it’s a bad habit. And I acknowledge it.

SuChin Pak 

I think we’re all guilty of that. I’m guilty of it. And I’m sleeping anxiety center, you know, dead center all the time. And I know that. But because I have seen it work, it’s a lot easier for me to tell my brain like no, you need to remove the phone from your room. But I would even just say commit to it for a week and see what a difference it makes.

Kulap Vilaysack

Thank you, Emma. Thank you so much for calling and sharing.

Shannon  38:02

My name is Shannon, she/her. I just wanted to call about a young male perm. Why? I’m an elementary music teacher. And this entire school year, half of my young male elementary age boys got perm. And I live in Kansas, so like, kind of the middle of nowhere. And I think here’s the reason they all about young male like white boys is because of that football player Patrick Mahomes from the Kansas City Chiefs. Everybody really loves them now that he won the Super Bowl last year, I guess anyway, so that’s why they got them around here. I don’t know if that’s why it’s happening nationwide. But it certainly is a trend and I’ve seen a lot of it in white little boys. All right. Love you guys. Bye.

SuChin Pak 

Sweeping Kansas, Sweeping Kansas.

Kulap Vilaysack 

I wouldn’t put a pass my nephew for that to be the reason I’m going to immediately ask Kai if that’s why he got it. And I think part of it that’s really interesting that half of her class, but they all post on social media. So if one does it like that’s how it catches fire.

SuChin Pak 

But Patrick’s it doesn’t have I mean; he has it looks like he has naturally curly hair. I mean, maybe he gets a perm. I don’t I mean, am I crazy? Look at this. Look at this picture. I don’t know who Patrick is though.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Yeah, I mean, he has curly hair. Yeah. No, but for those guys to get hair like Patrick, you have to perm it. So it’s not about Patrick having a perm.

SuChin Pak 

I’m speechless.

Kulap Vilaysack 

I love this theory. I think she’s probably spot on, mainly because I don’t know sports. And so that actually makes the most sense. We’ll have my 10-year-old my 10-year-old nephew Kai, explain it and he’ll have answers.

SuChin Pak  40:01

Can we do that? Okay, let’s do it.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Well, you know what? He’s also coming in July to visit me, so he’ll be right beside me.

SuChin Pak 

Oh, perfect. You know how you had your mama and we’ll have Kai on?

Kulap Vilaysack 

And they’ll talk about how what have I seen him lately do, he is on IG live selling sports cards. That’s the thing he does now.

SuChin Pak 

I mean, I love his enterprising spirit. So I feel like your Kai and my Kai are kindred, because all my Kai wants to do is get a job. And where? At the local mailbox drop off place that I go to almost every day.

Kulap Vilaysack 

Looks like a lot of fun for him. He’s like this is a good job.

SuChin Pak 

I have to save all of my mailbox drop offs for when he can go but he’s asked them for internships. He’s asked them for jobs. When will I be old enough? And he’s like, I love that we had a caller you know, talk about why MPs?

Kulap Vilaysack 

Yes. So thank you to Jasmine, Emma and Shannon, for leaving us voicemails. You can leave us voicemails, too, guys. Let them inspire you

SuChin Pak 

Yeah, light the way, it’s 833-453-6662.

Kulap Vilaysack

This is it for the episode of Add To Cart. Find everything we talked about on @AddToCartPod. You know, tell us how you track your dog I’d like to know.

SuChin Pak

and also we’re going to start posting some of our favorite podcast reviews on Add To Cart pod you guys. We’ve been waiting to do this and we know that you have left some amazing reviews. Kulap, I don’t think you’ve even read them. I have been reading them since we started this and let me tell you, there are lives made, broken tears, joyous reunions on our reviews. So thank you guys, but all those reviews, they help grow the show and they help us reach a bigger audience. And that’s just good for everyone

Kulap Vilaysack  42:08

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CREDITS

ADD TO CART is a production of Lemonada Media. Our producer is Claire Jones and our editor is Ivan Kuraev. The music is by Wasahhbii and produced by La Made It and Oh So Familiar with additional music by APM music. Executive producers are Kulap Vilaysack, SuChin Pak, Jessica Cordova Kramer and Stephanie Wittels Wachs. Be sure to check out all the items we mentioned today on our Instagram at @AddToCartPod. Also, please take a moment to rate, review, and subscribe to the show wherever you get your podcast.