Sasheer Zamata Has A Lot of Chairs

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The Aunties are assembling a coven this week with Sasheer Zamata, who stars as Jennifer Kale the sorceress in Marvel’s “Agatha All Along.” Sasheer talks about being an extroverted introvert while on set, and working with icons like Kathryn Hahn and Patti LuPone. She also shares why she, literally, has a seat for everyone in her home, and the remove from cart that’s been haunting her for three years.

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Transcript

SPEAKERS

SuChin Pak, Kulap Vilaysack, Sasheer Zamata

Kulap Vilaysack  00:10

Welcome back to Add To Cart, I’m your auntie Kulap Vilaysack.

 

SuChin Pak  00:13

And I’m your other auntie SuChinb Pak, so excited for today’s show.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  00:19

Oh yes, we are absolutely enamored with our guest. She is a comedian, actress and writer. You’ve seen her in Home Economics, Woke Spree and SNL, just to name a few of her credits. She is one half of the podcast, best friends with Nicole Beyer, and soon, I’m so excited you can watch her play Jennifer kale in the new Marvel series, Agatha, All Along. Please Add To Cart Sasheer Zamata.

 

Sasheer Zamata  00:46

Yeah.

 

SuChin Pak  00:48

Wow, welcome busy.

 

Sasheer Zamata  00:52

She be busy.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  00:53

She busy, she beautiful, she doing it.

 

Sasheer Zamata  00:55

She doing it. I mean, not currently busy. Just okay, hang it out. But it’s nice when I do projects, when they come out at the same time, and then it’s like, damn, she’s been working. I’m like, yes, uh huh.

 

SuChin Pak  01:10

For all we know that timing happens all the time this year. By the way.

 

Sasheer Zamata  01:14

Constantly I’m filming. I’m doing this from set right now.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  01:18

Glamorous, okay, so for people who don’t know, where does Agatha All Along exist within our dear Marvel Universe?

 

Sasheer Zamata  01:28

So this is a spin off of Wandavision. So it takes place after Wandavision, but it highlights the character Agatha, and kind of gives a more in depth history of her story, and then also what’s to come for her journey. And I play Jennifer Kale, who is a part of this Coven, this band of misfits. And yeah, I think people are gonna be really excited to see like, the more magic, spooky side of Marvel.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  02:00

I wish I was kidding when I have like, goose pimples, I’m like, This is so cool, like in the Marvel Universe, and you’re a witch, you’re a sorceress.

 

Sasheer Zamata  02:09

I mean, it’s really combining two of my dreams into one. Like, I’ve always wanted to be in the Marvel Universe. I am a fan of Witch lore and which history, and, yeah, to be able to enter the MCU in this way is like, literally, a dream.

 

SuChin Pak  02:19

And what was like, the best part about playing this role?

 

Sasheer Zamata  02:28

Oh, I don’t know if I can pick just one thing, but like, you know, the covenant itself, the being able to perform with Katherine Hahn and Patti LuPone and Aubrey Plaza, and like, everyone in the group is just like, so amazing and talented and funny and, yeah, just to be in this crew is like, really incredible.

 

SuChin Pak  02:48

Wow, I have to imagine, with the set shenanigans, you keep straight faces around that coven. That’s what I want to know. I always when I see really funny casts full of funny people. I’m like, where is the secondary TV show alongside the main feed?

 

Sasheer Zamata  03:08

Yeah, well, it’s funny. Like, a lot of the stuff we do in the series is kind of dramatic and then, like, horrific. But Deborah Jo Rupp is the one character that was pure comedy the whole time, and I that she’s the only person I actually was, like, about to break around like she would, just because her voice is already, like, so delightful. She’s kind of like a fish out of water in this show. And every time I’m around her, I’m just like, I had to turn around sometimes during scenes because I was going to laugh right in her face.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  03:39

I didn’t clock that Patti LuPone was in this I knew everybody else, yeah. I mean, that’s the, she’s the granddam. I mean, I one time was blessed to watch her on Broadway with Mandy patigan. They were just as, just the two of them just doing just a very pared down set. I think it was like, it feel like it was like, near as day or something like, we had seats, like, right in front. She christened me with her spit.

 

Sasheer Zamata  04:05

And you got baptized.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  04:07

I got baptized. I got baptized.

 

Sasheer Zamata  04:11

Yeah, she’s, I mean, she’s an incredible spirit, obviously, amazingly talented and like a team player, like she like, had like, you know, everyone was like, in awe her all the time. But she really was just like, so chill and like, really wanted everyone to feel like a group, and we’re doing this together, and energy through the roof. Like, it would be, like, we have these really long, late shoots. And she’d be like, singing songs, playing music off of her speaker, telling stories. And I was like, I don’t know how you do it. Like, I wish I hoped to be that one day.

 

SuChin Pak  04:44

And I’m thinking about as you’re saying that because I am, and I don’t know sushi if you’re one of these people. Like, there’s so little social batteries, so little battery power, even upon wake up, that I have to be so stingy and Ju. Dishes with, like, where that goes. But then I I have friends, like my closest friend, who, actually, I’m married, probably a little bit to someone like that, who just all day long. And I did Marvel, I, you know, like, literally, I wonder. I’m like, how where does that? Where do you scoop that from?

 

Sasheer Zamata  05:22

Yeah, I don’t understand it either. I’m an extroverted No, yeah, an extroverted introvert.

 

SuChin Pak  05:27

So what does that mean?

 

Sasheer Zamata  05:28

Like, my base, my default, is introvert, but I can have extroverted tendencies. So like, people think like, oh, she loves attention. She loves being around people. I do not. I would love to be home. I would love to be alone. And when I’m surrounded by people, it is an energy suck. I have friends who get, like, revived with energy when they’re around people, or they like, they need it, and I’m like.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  05:53

It’s like kinetic for them. It’s like fuel in a way. And it’s different.

 

Sasheer Zamata  05:57

For it takes it away from me, and I have to, like, go stare at a wall when I go home and just, like, be silent for hours, not even TV. It’s like, just blank wall. Like, nothing. I can’t have anything. Don’t look at anything, don’t intake anything. Just recharge my battery. And like, and being on sets is like that for me too. Like, when I was new to this set, to the back of the set, I was like, Oh, I forgot what it was like to be on a new set, because I was on Home Economics for like, three years. So like, Yeah, we all became friends. We had a rhythm, and then you got a new set, and you’re like, oh, I gotta now. I gotta talk to you, and I gotta remember your name and your thing and your stories.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  06:36

Oh, my God, a nightmare.

 

SuChin Pak  06:38

Yeah, I think I quit.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  06:41

Like, you know what? I’m out actually.

 

SuChin Pak  06:45

I forgot about this. By the way, that’s every job, yeah, I’ve had probably in the last seven years. The first day I show up, I’m like, Yeah, can I quit? Yeah because it’s like, you don’t realize that when you’re performing, right, that’s like, a whole output of energy that, to some people, is draining, and, you know, some people not. And then on top of it, you’re performing, because it’s new people, and we all need to do a little bit of that, and it’s all people you’re going to work with. So it’s important, like, you can’t just be like, fuck it. I don’t feel like it today.

 

Sasheer Zamata  07:23

It’s part of the work too, though, the social braces, yeah.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  07:27

That’s right, what type of shopper Are you? Like, what’s your style? How do you do it?

 

Sasheer Zamata  07:34

Well, I guess it depends on the need. Like, when I first bought my house, I was, like, a frenetic like, I gotta go to stay sales every weekend, type of shopper. And now I have literally no need for anything. Like, every corner is filled with a chair, so I don’t so now I’m just like, if I see something, I’ll save it, but I’ll be like, I don’t actually need to get anything right now. So I go through waves right now. I’m not like, I’m a little bored because I don’t need anything. And I’m like, I don’t need to shop for anything.

 

SuChin Pak  08:06

I mean, you can make it up, can’t you? I mean, you’re a creative person. It’s got wild amounts of imagination.

 

Sasheer Zamata  08:12

Yeah, I’ll buy gifts for other people and be like, you must need this, right? You could probably put it in your house somewhere, because I thought I saw it and I loved it, and I think you would probably love it too, because I love you so, yeah, you should take it and use it.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  08:25

I love this. So you feel, you feel content. You feel your card is empty, because you feel full. So even, even talking about, like clothes right now, you’re like, I got it, I’m good.

 

Sasheer Zamata  08:35

Definitely, I definitely have way too many clothes, and keep shedding them off and like doing clothing swaps with my friends and donating them. But like, you know, closets filled to the brim, and so every time when I see clothes, I’m like, Okay, you have to be so different than everything I already have, and that would justify why I’m bringing you into my life. Otherwise you can’t fit right now.

 

SuChin Pak  08:59

Wait, I want to rewind the tape here. You said clothing swaps?

 

Sasheer Zamata  09:02

Oh, yes, yeah.

 

SuChin Pak  09:03

Tell me about that.

 

Sasheer Zamata  09:05

Oh, they’re great. That’s, it’s like, I get the stuff that I don’t wear anymore, or my friends or anyone gets stuff they don’t wear anymore, and then you bring it to one location, and then you just pick and choose. And then whatever you don’t want, or what no one wants, gets, like, taken to a donation place, yeah.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  09:23

And usually there’s some sort of, some sort of, like brunch situation. It’s good, it’s communal it’s.

 

Sasheer Zamata  09:29

Oh, yeah, I didn’t make a whole event out of it. When I was living in New York, my friend Mary Ann ways would do, like, a huge one for the female comedians who lived there, and we would do it at Littlefield, or some, some venue. And like, tons of comedians would bring all their clothes and, like, dump them and hang them and like, kind of just go through and shop and take things. And there was, like, years where many other comedians were dressing like me, because I was just bringing so many items that I had. And, yeah, and a fun way to, like, refresh your closet, but not feel like kind of guilty, I guess, because you’re not buying anything, it’s all free, and then you feel good because someone else is wearing something that you loved, so it’s like going to a good home.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  10:13

Sue, what do you think about that? Could you do that? Could you let things go?

 

SuChin Pak  10:17

The little hamster wheel is going so fast in my brain.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  10:21

Though, because that would mean you’d have to, like, make friends in Sa nta Barbara, you know I mean?

 

SuChin Pak  10:25

No, I don’t, I was thinking the first thought, I was like, oh, we could do this at Ku’s house.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  10:30

Okay, we could. We absolutely could.

 

SuChin Pak  10:34

This kind of reminds me of, and I’m trying to think of who we had, a past guest and we were gonna do, we were gonna do the shred and sip party.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  10:44

Sheng Wing, okay, so, yeah, basically, you know, I would probably have to rent a high powered paper shredder, and everyone just gave all their documents, their medical documents, their expired American Express statements, and we’d set up like, you know, wine and and not scent shredded fish, shred and sim, that’s it.

 

Sasheer Zamata  11:07

I’m staring at a pile of papers on my desk right now that I have to go through so I get it too well.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  11:12

I guess I’m throwing two parties.

 

Sasheer Zamata  11:15

Yeah.

 

SuChin Pak  11:16

I see multiple collabs happening.

 

Sasheer Zamata  11:18

It’s actually a great idea because it also encourages people to have a deadline. If it’s like, hey, our shred and sip party is March 8, then everyone by March 8, you gotta go through that pile that you don’t want to go through, and decide what stays, what actually has to go so you can have something to bring to this party.

 

Sasheer Zamata  11:19

Guys, shred, sip and swap.

 

Sasheer Zamata  11:25

And swap.

 

SuChin Pak  11:27

And swap.

 

Sasheer Zamata  11:28

You’re getting rid of your needed papers, taking some clothes home. I love this.

 

SuChin Pak  11:47

Yes, because when you just said then it forces you to actually get organized. Same thing with closets, yeah. I mean, I will crawl out of my coffin. I will paint on some lipstick and show up to that, that SSS party.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  12:06

Will prop you up, dust you off.

 

SuChin Pak  12:09

Wig […].

 

SuChin Pak  12:10

I will be there.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  12:12

She came out of the crypt, ready?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  12:24

Let’s get into your cart. I’m so excited because I feel like you kind of previewed it. Talking a little earlier before about your house and having things in every corner. Let’s talk about Wayfair, weathered gray. It’s a, it’s a four person outdoor seating group. Let’s look at this.

 

SuChin Pak  12:44

Okay, so you’ve bought this, or you’re thinking about it.

 

Sasheer Zamata  12:47

I bought it. I have it, it’s out, and I love it. I love it so much. Like I was looking for new outdoor furniture, and I was having a birthday party at my house, and I was like, I need more seating. Like, I just I scrambled for some reason, I was like, I hate all my seating, and I need more and so I was looking for just something that looks comfortable. Oh, also, I have so many crows in my yard. They love this yard, and I don’t mind them being here. Sometimes they like do this thing that I haven’t looked up what it means, but they’ll, like, all start calling at the same time. And I’m like, very coven. Like, it does feel very Coven like, I’m like, Are you summoning me? What’s happening?

 

Kulap Vilaysack  13:30

They’re holding court, isn’t isn’t that a thing that they do? They like, they’re on trial someone’s on trial. One of the coaches on trial.

 

Sasheer Zamata  13:36

Yeah, I don’t know. I have no idea crow trials happening. I haven’t heard in a while, but they’re always around.

 

SuChin Pak  13:41

So the crow trials

 

Sasheer Zamata  13:45

Maybe, my furniture was on trial because they decided they don’t like it. I had these cushion chairs out for a while, and they plucked the hell out of them. They would just, like, poke them and and I think they were making their nests, but like they were taking the stuffing out of them, and they just looked and they made them. They ruined them. They ruined my chairs. And I was like, well, all right, I need to find some stuff that doesn’t have stuffing, that is a comfortable seat, that won’t anger the crows or entice them to fully de stuff them. So I found these wicker chairs, the set. And I was like, it looks like, kind of grandma, like, it looks cute. I got the green one, and then I set it up. And I was like, Oh, I love these. Like, they’re genuinely comfortable, they’re cute. They like, so far have done well in the outdoor weather. Like it’s like, all weather material.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  14:40

Oh, so sorry, you got the antique moss. Antique moss.

 

SuChin Pak  14:45

Yeah, that’s the color I want.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  14:47

That’s gorgeous.

 

Sasheer Zamata  14:49

And it looks so good with, like, the greenery around it. It’s, yeah, I’m very happy with it.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  14:54

I wouldn’t have picked this out on my own. I really like it, yeah, and it does. Feel Agatha All Along.

 

Sasheer Zamata  15:03

Yes, it’s a little itch. Would have this in her house. And I don’t even know how I found it, because it was kind of like a deep cut on the Wayfair site, but I think I was like, Googling, like, wicker chairs or, like, I don’t know, like comfortable, plasticky chairs or something like that, and then somehow this popped up, and I was like, this is it.

 

SuChin Pak  15:29

Now, I don’t know if I’m reading too much into it, but I feel like this is the second or third time you’ve mentioned chair, seating, sitting.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  15:41

Is this like having enough?

 

SuChin Pak  15:43

Theme, or is this just coincidence?

 

Sasheer Zamata  15:46

I do love chairs. You can probably see two in the frame here, and I’m and I’m sitting in one. So there’s three in this room alone, and I’m always in this room alone. There doesn’t need to be three chairs in here, but my house is filled with chairs. I guess I like them for functionality. You can sit in them, of course, be comfy, but also I feel like they’re good decor too, like I like looking at them as well. And, yeah, I do have, like, more chairs than I need, but no one’s ever in need of a seat. Everyone has a place to sit when they come to my place, and I like that.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  16:27

So in your office right now, do you find yourself sitting in those other two chairs?

 

Sasheer Zamata  16:31

I do, sometimes I’ll meditate in the one the corner. Sometimes I’ll lay on this bench over here. Yeah, I do utilize them. I like, I like having options.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  16:39

It’s amazing. Speaking of options you’re considering, the alpha being inflatable lounger. They say it’s good for camping, hiking. What would you be using it for?

 

Sasheer Zamata  16:49

I would, I would use it for the beach.

 

SuChin Pak  16:54

What?

 

Sasheer Zamata  16:55

I love having, like, a packable thing that expands and now it’s like my life’s changed. You know, like, I like, I pull out this thing. And I’ve seen videos where people like, pull it out, and then they catch wind in it, and then tie it up, and then they lay on it. Now you have a beach couch. Are you kidding me? And I guess this goes into theme of me wanting to sit and bring, literally bringing a chair with me.

 

SuChin Pak  17:20

I wasn’t gonna say it, but I was, my eyebrows were hyped up.

 

Sasheer Zamata  17:26

Now, as I’m speaking, I’m realizing that, yes, this is another version of a chair.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  17:33

And yes, and I just want to Su, are you looking at the photos it’s an Amazon link, and where it says easy to inflate. So she just mentioned to inflate it you you catch the wind like, that’s the wind.

 

Sasheer Zamata  17:45

Isn’t that magical? You catch the wind.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  17:49

Is that, isn’t that a song from Pocahontas.

 

Sasheer Zamata  17:51

You use nature.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  17:54

I didn’t know. I mean, I like, I like that. I’ve been pumping a lot of things manually, and that’s it’s just not, it doesn’t ever look good, and it looks always embarrassing. And I think actually, this is more dignified, I’m gonna be honest with you, way more dignified than what.

 

Sasheer Zamata  18:10

You’re like an airbender. You’re just like, flick it open, let the air use this powers to inflate this thing. And then now it’s like yours. You harnessed it, you Harnessed the Wind, and then you sat on it, and then you sat on it, and you’re thrown yeah.

 

SuChin Pak  18:29

Just imagining you in your bathing suit, just running through a crowded […]

 

Kulap Vilaysack  18:43

I’m looking at, you know this, and one of the picture says, lazy days made easy. But the way, so sheer, honestly, sold it to me, and I am sold. Trust that I sold is that this is domination of an element.

 

SuChin Pak  18:57

That’s her. Do you see her twist on that? You see her twist, domination of character?

 

Sasheer Zamata  19:03

Yeah, we’re all storm. We’re controlling the elements right now.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  19:07

I haven’t seen people doing this is 36.98.

 

Sasheer Zamata  19:12

Yeah.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  19:13

That’s a price that I I’m happy with. Again, it’s inflatable. It folds up really tight and right? I mean, like I but I haven’t seen this out in the wild. This is blowing on a beach.

 

SuChin Pak  19:24

People aren’t using this more for beach. Now, are you the type of person? And there are two types of people where, when you go to the beach, like I, live in a town where people take beach very seriously, Santa, Barbara, I’ve never seen so much. Beach, yeah, furniture and accessories, wagons, chairs, tents, tables, lap tables, drink holders, you know? And they set up.

 

Sasheer Zamata  19:56

Yeah.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  19:57

They move in.

 

SuChin Pak  19:59

It really, truly is a wonder. So are you that type of a beach person where you set up house?

 

Sasheer Zamata  20:06

I’m in the middle. I’m not like, all the way there, but I have some things to make me comfy. Like, I do have a tent that’s like, in a little backpack that you just like put over your shoulder, and then you like, put these poles up, and it’s like a big like a rectangular cloth, and then you fill the bags that are on the ground with sand. And then the ideas are supposed to, like, give you shade. And I love that, and need that, because I hate being in direct sunlight for an extended amount of time. I’ll leave the beach if I’m too hot, so this will keep me there longer.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  20:42

And now that we know, and we’re knowing you very intimately, by the way, is that you need a chair. I need a chair. And that’s what could be this.

 

Sasheer Zamata  20:50

I’m actually, when I’m at the beach, I don’t mind being on a blanket on the sand. I can be on the sand for a little bit.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  20:59

But this lounger could fit under the tent, right?

 

Sasheer Zamata  21:02

That? Yeah, I would hope so. I have no idea. I don’t know the scale. I mean, I see people fully laying on it, so I hope it would fit under my tent, but actually.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  21:11

It feels then it would be a solo endeavor, though. I don’t know if someone else can also be.

 

Sasheer Zamata  21:18

[…] laying fully reclining and all my friends on the ground. Like, cool well, you look real comfy. Kind of like, yeah. Don’t you wish you brought a balloon couch?

 

SuChin Pak  21:34

Like I Harnessed the Wind, yeah? So I don’t, I get to sit on it.

 

Sasheer Zamata  21:38

Once you harness the wind. You get to sit too.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  21:42

Yeah, it just feels like, like a higher status kind of situation, like you rented, you rented, like you made a cabana, but you like, you run for the Cabana.

 

Sasheer Zamata  21:53

But no one else can fit.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  22:05

Okay, let’s get into paper, folding stool, paper, Honeycomb Ottoman, Bench Folding steps. So I have seen this on Instagram, and you are considering it.

 

Sasheer Zamata  22:16

Yeah, it was the Instagram reel that hooked me where I was like, oh, like, because it expands and, oh my gosh, did I send you only seating? Did I only send you seating? I don’t like.

 

SuChin Pak  22:32

I’m not here, I don’t know you like that, you know, if you were a really good friend of mine, we would not survive this together. You know, like you would bring this up, and then I would spend 40 minutes just laying in on what was wrong with you. So I’m gonna keep silent here, but it is another seating.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  22:55

I mean, it’s themed, it’s what’s on your mind at all times?

 

Sasheer Zamata  23:02

We’re discovering this together. I legit did not do this on purpose. I was like, these are things I’m genuinely interested.

 

SuChin Pak  23:13

But anyway, five to everyone what this is, because it is sort of a new concept here.

 

Sasheer Zamata  23:18

Yeah, it’s like a accordion type bench, and I think it’s made out legit paper, but the ends of it are wood, like, and in the Instagram reel that I saw they like, you know, folded it out and, like, it could be multiple seating, or you can put it in a circle, and it can be like, a little like ottoman, or a tiny table or something. And I was like, I love a multi use thing.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  23:45

And it could be folded up and stowed away.

 

Sasheer Zamata  23:48

Under something or put on the side. Yeah. And I was like, for parties, that would be amazing. I am skeptical, though, because it is paper, and I have no idea what that’s gonna be like.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  24:00

Calling back that you said, when you do have people over, everyone has a place to sit.

 

Sasheer Zamata  24:07

But what if for some reason, there’s one person who doesn’t I just haven’t have enough for the people there, except one. I gotta bring my little paper bitch out.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  24:17

And then, back to your point, it’s gonna be, you know, a person my blessed ass, sits on it and just hits the ground, hits the floor.

 

SuChin Pak  24:25

By the way, this can hold a load of up to 2000 pounds, because the honeycomb design distributes pressure evenly.

 

Sasheer Zamata  24:36

I don’t know about that 2000 pounds […]?

 

SuChin Pak  24:40

I’m reading it in English here.

 

Sasheer Zamata  24:43

I’ve seen there’s like, oh, I think in the Olympics actually, they use those cardboard bed frames, so I guess, like, and that, to me, looks flimsy, but if it’s holding, like, muscly athletes, like, I guess it works.

 

SuChin Pak  24:58

But how cool. I mean, just, that’s the dramatic effect, right? So just imagine, I just, just picture it okay, you’re you guys that were at the beach where you saw a cisher Catch the Wave, okay? And then she says, you guys, come on over. Like, let’s, you know, we’ll have a little, we’ll do a little sip and shred. And she then comes out of her bedroom and unfurls, okay, unfurls seating for six for up to 2000 pounds in a snake like structure made out of honeycombed cardboard. That’s bad ass.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  25:38

It is badass. I just do want to point out, and it’s not, I know it’s not, but the designated Aries to sit down look like paper plates. They look like paper plates you get at Costco flipped over, you know? And that also is, like, just a little scary for it’s just my worrisome to sit yeah.

 

Sasheer Zamata  25:56

I think the the reasons you listened to of the unfurling, the press. That is what impressed me. Where I was like, I would love to even you see this little, tiny thing. You see this tiny, little sandwich? What do you think is just a tiny little it’s actually six seating. It’s actually seating for a whole party of pebbles, a whole family could fit here. Wow, I have a snake of seating here. I would love to impress people like that. You thought these were all the options of chairs. Guess what? I got even more.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  26:30

Look, that’s it. There’s no, there’s no arguing that. Like, it’s, it’s showmanship, it’s innovation.

 

Sasheer Zamata  26:37

Yeah, it’s for the showmanship.

 

SuChin Pak  26:39

Yeah, it’s her. It’s her power. If, if you don’t know anything about her, you know, she will have a seat for you.

 

Sasheer Zamata  26:49

Yeah, sometimes I’ll allow children in my house, not all the time, but if I am nice, if I’m feeling in a good mood, I’m like, Okay, people can bring their kids. It’s fine. Maybe that can be like kids eating because they don’t weigh a lot, and hopefully, there’s less of a chance of them breaking it than full adults. I don’t know.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  27:09

there you go. And just so that, you know, I don’t know if we fully answered sheer’s earlier question, the three Add To Carts you brought were seated. They were all variations of seating, different, varying. And then maybe that’s Su, that’s for us to be illuminated by is that we were, we had a limited view of seating, and now ours have expanded like a paper honeycomb autumn invention.

 

SuChin Pak  27:40

I will say this, in all honesty, I’ve never seen the variety, the veracity of seating, yeah, that this woman has brought from from traditional chairs to wicker to cardboard. It’s I’m impressed.

 

Sasheer Zamata  27:58

Thank you.

 

SuChin Pak  27:59

It’s impressed.

 

Sasheer Zamata  28:01

I think that’s also what happens when you don’t need more chairs, you start looking for different types of chairs.

 

SuChin Pak  28:08

That’s what happens, period, with all shopping, you know, that’s how you end up with a shoe that has an invisible heel, yeah, or whatever it is, a tank top. How do you guys remember this was going around for a while, at least in my algorithm, like it was like a tank top with the invisible strap.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  28:25

Yeah, I remember that.

 

Sasheer Zamata  28:26

Yes.

 

SuChin Pak  28:27

So tempted. But that’s when you know you have enough tank tops. You don’t have to invent something that fools the eye. You can just wear the tank tops. That’s a good tip. How you know you don’t need something is when it looks like a snake, invisible. Uh, there’s a wind turbine. You know energy, that’s how you know when you’re you’re like, I have enough.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  28:57

Okay, but I just want to say that I want that inflatable lounger. I understand that I don’t need it. I didn’t know it existed. It wasn’t in my algorithm, but now it has entered.

 

SuChin Pak  29:07

As long as you’re crystal clear on the intent. We’ve moved from need to want, and now we’re honest. We’re in the honesty circle. I’m post need. You’re old enough, you’re powerful enough to do whatever you want.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  29:22

Including removing from cart, to share ring, path, light, battery.

 

Sasheer Zamata  29:28

Yeah, maybe I don’t want it because it’s not a chair, but.

 

SuChin Pak  29:34

Is the one that you can’t sit on.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  29:37

Yeah, and get it out.

 

Sasheer Zamata  29:40

Useless, these are ring lights. They’re path lights by the company, ring. And I have ring products. I do think they have good products. This was intended to light my yard. And the you can, like, set a timer on your app. It’s like. Got cool features, but they’re all battery powered, which infuriates me. It’s just like they all have they need, like D cell, like the fattest, largest battery, and you have to charge them. And because they’re being used, you have to charge them pretty often. And so I’m like, in my yard, unloading these things, bringing them into my house, charging them, putting them back in the yard. I don’t wanna do the working job. I’m on set constantly. I cannot be charging my lights like this.

 

SuChin Pak  30:34

You’re talenting, what is this? You gotta get a van. You have to get extra outlets, I mean.

 

Sasheer Zamata  30:42

And what makes me even more mad is that, like, maybe not too long after I bought these, they came out with the solar version, where you don’t need to do any of that shit, and the sun, you can harness the sun to take care of it. And I it’s more on brand, and I should probably just switch. But I am so, like, I’m mad about it, and I Claire already paid money for the first version, and I got all the batteries, and I got all the chargers, and I’m like, I could just use these, but it makes me mad every time I’m doing it.

 

SuChin Pak  31:11

That’s really frustrating.

 

Sasheer Zamata  31:12

Yeah.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  31:13

But, uh, thank you for telling me about the sun ones. See, I didn’t know that these were a thing, and now that I know they’re solar powered ones, I’m really sorry, and I totally I’d feel I feel the same if I were in your position. But now that I know that there you should get.

 

Sasheer Zamata  31:31

Don’t make my mistake, there’s a version that is better. You could just get that and not have to worry about charging anything.

 

SuChin Pak  31:37

Now, at what point, though, do you say, okay, enough. I’m on set, I’m talent. This is, this is going in the swap, and I’m getting the solar powered. Okay, I made a mistake. I’m gonna get the $300 or whatever.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  31:53

So what’s tough? She did not make a mistake. , that’s the rub.

 

Sasheer Zamata  31:59

I didn’t even have the option when I […]

 

SuChin Pak  32:01

First by the way, it’s marketed as smart lighting.

 

Sasheer Zamata  32:05

Fels pretty dumb to me.

 

SuChin Pak  32:07

Pretty dumb.

 

Sasheer Zamata  32:07

Pretty down to me.

 

SuChin Pak  32:09

See, my personality is that, had I invested in this and found myself in that situation, this would be my personality and my gripe for years, and we would be in the dark outside.

 

Sasheer Zamata  32:23

That is what’s happening. It’s just dark outside.

 

SuChin Pak  32:27

There’s no lighting whatsoever. I mean, every once in a while and someone would be like, oh, it’s kind of dark here. And then I that would be my.

 

Sasheer Zamata  32:35

Well, you know why? Yeah, let me tell you why. Fucking ring over here.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  32:42

Let me let a candle come closer.

 

Sasheer Zamata  32:46

Now it’s a campfire story. Let me tell you the tale about these ring pad lights.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  32:55

All right. Back to Su’s question, when do you envision letting go?

 

Sasheer Zamata  33:01

That’s a good question. I have a kind of a similar story. I have this tattoo on my thigh, and it’s of Japanese water waves, and I wanted it to go like, you know, you’ve seen, like, garter belt, yeah, tattoo. I wanted to go all the way around my leg. And the tattoo artist I went to was like, oh, because of like, the shape of your leg, I can’t make it go straight all the way around. It has to go down a little bit in the back and connect even the tattoo artist in the next chair was like, I’ve never heard of that. And I should have been like, what that guy said, I’ve also never heard of that doesn’t make any sense, but I was like, okay, I trust you. You’re the artist. And he did it, and he made it, like, go down in the back, and it just wasn’t what I wanted. And, you know, no one else was like, that strange. They’re like, cool tattoo. But like, to me, I just knew that’s so not what I came in wanting, and I had it for three years, and then I went back to the tattoo shop, and I was like, Look, I know I paid for this. We like designed it. He put it on me. I saw it. We reviewed it. I said yes to it. I understand that. I’m just not happy with this tattoo. And that artist was gone, long gone. I don’t even know where he went. But some other artist was like, I understand what you’re saying, and I’ll fix it. And then he, like, added more to the top and to the bottom, and like, made it straight and like, colored it in. So like, you can’t tell where the original lines are anymore, I see and I’m so much more happy with the end result. But it did take me three years to get to that point to be like, I just can’t look at this anymore, and I need to fix this.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  34:45

That’s so hard. I just, I can see myself in your position, and I think I would have done the same thing, because it’s also you’re getting this new information, which is like, because of your leg shape, you’re like.

 

Sasheer Zamata  34:57

He said, he used the word for. Looting. I wish I was like, like a champagne flute. I don’t know. I guess, like, because it’s wide at the top and like, like, like a leg, but like a leg, like, everyone’s leg is, everyone’s leg is wide at the top and then gets like, skinnier towards the knee. But I don’t, I don’t know what his logic was, and maybe he was just an inexperienced tattoo artist, and didn’t want to admit he doesn’t know how to make a straight line. But I just believed it.

 

SuChin Pak  35:27

Oh, man, yeah, that’s all of us. I see this meme going around all the time. I wish I could be that person to tell the manicurist I don’t like the color. You know, where you’re like, they put that first coat on, and you’re like, Ooh, I picked that, and I hate it, but there you go. 10 toes, 10 fingers, yep.

 

Sasheer Zamata  35:47

Thank you so much. I’ll take you.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  35:50

Handsomely.

 

SuChin Pak  35:52

Yeah, I’m the same personality. I’d be like, Yeah, okay. I mean that’s that sucks, yeah, and it’s just forever. But I’m open to someone else’s point of view, because I can’t always be right, you know, you go through all the self help.

 

Sasheer Zamata  36:07

In fact, I know that I’m not.

 

SuChin Pak  36:09

Yeah, you go through all the self help work, the books and the classes that get you open to a downward circle flute situation.

 

Sasheer Zamata  36:20

Yeah, it’s like, you know what? Maybe I’m just closing my mind off to a different option, and he’s letting me see that he’s the expert. I mean, he’s the expert. He works here, I don’t yeah.

 

SuChin Pak  36:32

Although there was, who was the person next door, that was, like, I never heard of that.

 

Sasheer Zamata  36:37

We just smarter person, and I just should have listened to him and be like, Oh, if there aren’t at least two people in agreement, we should say a different option. So I say that to say maybe three years, maybe or two or three years it would take me to to be like, I’m tired of changing these batteries. I’m just gonna buy the product that I actually want.

 

SuChin Pak  36:58

So when did you buy the lights? Then how? How much longer are we in the dark?

 

Sasheer Zamata  37:02

Oh, we might be there. Actually. I moved into this house in 2021 so I think this is.

 

SuChin Pak  37:08

Just found time. Our work is done. We added to cart. It took us a minute to get there, but by golly Ku and I love to force consumer capitalism, unnecessary spending.

 

Sasheer Zamata  37:29

Yeah, but this is necessary. That’s right. We moved it from a want to a need.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  37:35

Need, beautiful in a boat.

 

SuChin Pak  37:40

It’s a haiku, hi.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  37:42

That’s all for today’s episode. You can stream Agatha All Along, beginning tomorrow September 18, on Disney.Plus you can find sushire on Instagram @thesheertruth. Thank you so much for joining us.

 

Sasheer Zamata  37:53

Yes, thank you for having me, and I can’t wait to buy more sitting.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  37:57

Sitting with us. Thank you for allowing us to sit with you.

 

Sasheer Zamata  38:01

Oh, yes, yeah, thank you for sitting with me. I appreciate it. I love doing it alone, but I also love doing it with other people.

 

SuChin Pak  38:09

Virtually in person, on a snake.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  38:16

She should be your like. You know your sign off for everything you do.

 

Sasheer Zamata  38:20

Thank you for sitting with me. I do like that. I honestly do.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  38:24

And the intro, come sit with me.

 

Sasheer Zamata  38:26

Yeah, have a sit.

 

Kulap Vilaysack  38:29

Thank you so much.

 

Sasheer Zamata  38:30

Thank you.

 

CREDITS  38:37

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