Theater Girls Interrupted with Alyah Chanelle Scott
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Alyah Chanelle Scott takes a breather from her nonstop actor-producer-director lifestyle (ever heard of The Sex Lives of College Girls?) to stop by The Dylan Hour. Snuggled up in our matching Broadway PJs — thank you, Playbill! — Alyah and I reminisce about our theater days, including when we were castmates on the road. We also take it upon ourselves to dream about the future… which happens to look a whole lot like Martha Stewart’s life.
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Transcript
SPEAKERS
Lemonada, Caller, Dylan Mulvaney, Speaker 1, Alyah Chanelle Scott
Dylan Mulvaney 00:43
Is this an okay time, honey? It’s a big day of the Dylan Hour, because it is our theater Girl Interrupted episode, because we have one of my favorite theater girls whose life was also interrupted when we were doing a musical together called the Book of Mormon. We were touring with it, and then the pandemic hit, and she became a TV film star. She was also the person that convinced me to, like, start making Tiktok videos, which is absolutely insane. She’s one of my closest friends. And I’m also really excited, because as we walked into the studio, we found out we’re going to the same event tonight, which is very convenient that I get to now see one of my best friends all the time around the town. It is Alyah Chanelle Scott. Hi, Alyah. Alyah we know you from the sex lives of college girls. You play Whitney Chase.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 01:30
I do.
Dylan Mulvaney 01:31
We know you from Reboot, Timberly.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 01:33
Oh yes. What a time.
Dylan Mulvaney 01:34
What a time. And now you’re directing, you’re producing theater. We’re gonna get all into it. I’m so excited.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 01:39
This is amazing, by the way, thank you. You have this introduction. It’s really a production. I’m so excited. Would you ever have a podcast? I don’t know that I have that much to say. I think you do. Okay, well, maybe I will. Okay, I love it .
Dylan Mulvaney 01:50
First to start out, I think we do, should do a playbill show technology. Thank you to playville for our gorgeous pajamas. We love this is a special sleepover episode here at the Dylan Hour, which we’ve had a few of those very s awesome, and we have mugs with water to hydrate, but sips on that adorable. But more importantly, our drink of the week for Miss Aaliyah Chanel Scott is a surely we’re getting a drink after the show tonight because we’re feeling flirty. Temple, cheers. We’ve this is vodka, grenadine and sprite.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 02:24
This was your drink on tour. This is my but still is my drink. I know last night that’s terrible. And do you get them? Like, I’ll never do this. Maybe my first or second, I maybe had a sip of one of yours on tour. But this is, like, this is rare for me.
Dylan Mulvaney 02:38
Okay, first sips. That sweet.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 02:43
I don’t know where you like that.
Dylan Mulvaney 02:44
Oh no.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 02:45
It’s like, you really taste syrupy.
Dylan Mulvaney 02:47
You usually like tequila, right? Yeah, I like tequila so much. Like, no juice just, you just want straight up, just straight out. Like, if I’m gonna drink it, it’s not gonna taste good. You know, there’s ever a place you’re drinking a sweet drink, it’s gonna be at the Dillon hour. It’s so true. Okay, let’s talk bitter and sweets of the week. What’s your bitter and sweet?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 03:03
Okay, my bitter is I’m having a problem with finding a good therapist, and I, I went to dinner the other night with a friend, and I realized that I’m the problem. So that’s not great. It’s her. She’s the problem. The problem, it’s me. No, yeah, I just don’t give them a chance. Is what I’ve learned from my friend reflecting on me, she was like, well, what’s the problem? And I was like, yeah, I feel like I have one or two sessions, and then I’m like, oh, wasn’t it bye. And she’s like.
Dylan Mulvaney 03:28
How many of you tried?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 03:31
Like, four?
Dylan Mulvaney 03:31
Oh, honey.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 03:33
And then she was like, you know what you’re not doing, you’re not setting the expectation of what you want from them. Like, basically, you’re just judging them based off of the advice they’re giving you, and you’re not liking it, or you’re saying, like, that’s not what I need. And then you’re ghosting them without telling them, like, giving them shit.
Dylan Mulvaney 03:45
And I was like, Okay, girl, this also feels like, when I would send you to psychics, also the same kind of energy, like you’re just trying to, you’re trying to catch them in.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 03:53
Yes, I basically talk. And then I’m like, so what do you think? And if what they think, is it what I want, then I’m like, But, well, not necessarily what I want, but if it’s not like, I like, worded in a way that like, I forgot all the books, I’m like, you want to be challenged. I want to be challenged. But I also like what I’ve learned from a friend, because she’s very similar type of person to me. She’s also a producer. She was like, I basically go in and I say, I don’t want advice, I want an ear, and I want you to recognize patterns in my behavior and call them out to me. And I was like, that’s so true. Because I think sometimes when people are like, well, you should do this. I’m like, Well, go fuck yourself. Should you just go to my life coach? You always say this, and I’m gonna tell you the answer is no, because she’s so expensive.
Dylan Mulvaney 04:30
Okay, but also, like, it’s an investment in your mental health, in your overall career, everything. It’s gonna be amazing. Just do one.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 04:39
I think I have no that wasn’t a psychic.
Dylan Mulvaney 04:41
That was which that’s also a thing we’re gonna get into if there’s ever Woo, Woo to be had we bring it out on each other?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 04:48
No, it’s true. Um, so that’s my better of the week, but we’re moving on.
Dylan Mulvaney 04:51
Sweet.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 04:52
My sweet of the week hasn’t happened yet, but my show comes out in two days, that’s very exciting.
Dylan Mulvaney 04:57
Well, now, when the episode’s out, it will be out. It will be. Season Three, right? Sex life. So college girls, finally, what is, what was kind of the What can people expect from this season that’s different than maybe what they’ve seen from you before?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 05:09
Well, we’re sophomore sincere on the show, so we’re a little bit more confident, and you go further into like, our lives and our worlds, which I am excited for. Yeah, and there’s some like, I feel like it’s the season I’m most proud of for myself as an actor. Just like, I feel like I finally got the thing. I don’t know if that makes sense, like, I’ve got the thing about, like, Oh, right. This is the tone of this show. This is how we sit in this.
Dylan Mulvaney 05:32
I want to talk to you a lot later about sort of being a musical theater kid, then getting thrown onto this set, having to, like, figure that out. But I think that’s such a sweet and I think a lot of people watch your show and love it like it’s wild. So proud of you. I think my bitter is that I don’t get to see you as much as I would like. I think that it is crazy as we’re becoming adults. I don’t know. I think we were better at, like, having fun and carving out time for fun and making it a priority. And now I think it’s like, we, like, tonight, us going to an event today. Now we didn’t know which it’ll be fun, but that’s still work technically. And I wish, I think even outside of our friendship, I wish I was a little bit better at, like, carving out time for silliness. Yeah, I think my Honestly, my suite is just getting to see you. It’s you are you ground me back to like, who I am, and you’re one of the first people I ever came out to as, you know, trans and not like even I remember the first time that I called you. You were like, one of the first people I called to be like, hey, I think I might be non binary, or something’s going on. And so there I will say us finding success, and it being so crazy to have someone that knew you before, not only in my transness, but before career stuff like that is one of my favorite parts of being friends.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 06:56
It’s really special to like, watch, also to see what’s happening in your life, and just retweet, wow, I cannot believe that. And when I tell people I’ve known you for something, they’re like, what it’s almost like. We people think we didn’t exist before.
Dylan Mulvaney 07:08
From the very beginning, we met at Michigan.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 07:14
Yes.
Dylan Mulvaney 07:14
I was visiting. Well, I did not go to that school.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 07:16
No. You went to CCM.
Dylan Mulvaney 07:17
Yes.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 07:18
But we were neighbors, and, like, always, played with each other.
Dylan Mulvaney 07:21
Always. I mean, every I feel like we were a lot of basements drinking jungle juice at football games, yes, but last night, Ashley Park did she was like, I’ve been telling everyone, you went to Michigan, because it’s so, so funny. Basically, this actually crazy, because a lot of the Dylan hour viewers might not know the lore of musical theater colleges. So I think there’s many incredible colleges. You can go to a lot of different BFA musical theaters covering the bases, but there are some very prestigious ones, which includes your school Michigan. I went to the Cincinnati conservatory music Carnegie Mellon’s also very good. I did get confused. I wanted to go to Juilliard so badly for musical theater, which does not exist, don’t have it. And then when I found out that there was only acting and that you had to do Shakespeare, I still auditioned. But I was like, this is not for me.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 08:12
I get it. No, I didn’t know anything about anything for colleges, like, at all. I had a friend who went to, like, a school in a town over that was like, Hey, this is what I did when I auditioned for schools and gave me all of her packets and information, and I copied it to the T like, I was like, the 16 bars, like the like, copied it and copied the schools. And was like, this is what I’ll do. And I was going to go to unified. Do you remember that?
Dylan Mulvaney 08:34
Like, which town?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 08:36
Chicago.
Dylan Mulvaney 08:37
Okay, I did LA, okay.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 08:38
Of course you did. And my flight got canceled because it was Southwest and it was snowing, and so I missed the unified flight, and all my auditions got canceled. And I freaked out for like a second, and then I was like, You know what, screw it like, I’ll just go to school for engineering or something and call it a day. And then the next day, my mom was like, we should call the schools and see if you could reschedule. And I called first Michigan, and then after that, my mom was like, just kidding. We can’t afford to fly to all these places, so we’ll just do the one. And so I auditioned for only schools in like Texas and one in Oklahoma, and then Michigan. No way. Isn’t that crazy? Yeah. And that was it. And what do you remember what your audition songs were for college? Well, he liked me from she loves me.
Dylan Mulvaney 09:20
Oh, sweet.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 09:21
It’s very soprano. And then I did, oh, my God, what did I maybe something from Beauty and the Beast, which is just home.
Dylan Mulvaney 09:29
Oh, but you did that in school. I’ve seen videos. I was trying to tie it together. Is it true? Isn’t your mom like an aerospace engineer?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 09:36
She works for NASA.
Dylan Mulvaney 09:37
Was there ever a world when if you were like, well, if I don’t get into this musical theater school. I guess I’ll become an astronaut.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 09:42
I wish. No, I was not that cheerleader. I was, yeah, I was a cheerleader. But I also wanted, I wanted to be a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader for a while. Some still might do that.
Dylan Mulvaney 09:52
Did you do that trend on Tiktok?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 09:55
But I did grow up doing competitive cheer in Texas, which is very real you’ve seen.
Dylan Mulvaney 10:00
The Docu series, oh, it was my, you know, it was my favorite thing, you know, yeah. Do you remember the last week.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 10:05
In Arizona we watched it on tour? Do you remember this?
Dylan Mulvaney 10:08
We were, I was so addicted. And then, do you not remember me coming back to LA when we were at the Amundsen and I started taking gymnastics classes? Yes, because I thought I was my 1000 be the first Tumblr, a male tumbler that would be a flyer.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 10:24
I remember us watching that now in our Airbnb in God somewhere.
Dylan Mulvaney 10:27
TBT now. But so you were never gonna be an astronaut, maybe a cheerleader.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 10:31
No, I was gonna be an engineer. That was like the backup plan, because I really liked math, which is weird, but
Dylan Mulvaney 10:37
Good at math. I’m good at math, also good at math. Love that. Now that you did get into Michigan, you’re like, I’m gonna go there. Like, God, so many of your classes, like on Broadway right now doing insane, crazy.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 10:48
Because when we were in school, we didn’t, like, no, some of our.
Dylan Mulvaney 10:52
Best friends were like, like, Kenzie.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 10:56
Kurtz, who was Glenda and wicked on Broadway. She’s so good. She’s amazing.
Dylan Mulvaney 10:59
Um, but I think it was because I remember you got Mormon, like, Did you before I graduated? Yeah. And then I got it, like, the week after, yeah. And I remember it was sort of like a, well, I guess we’re gonna go do this thing and crazy. But what I will say is that, like, when, when we showed up, I think it was kind of assumed, okay, we’re gonna figure out we’re gonna be friends. And you really came in, though, with like, this insane work ethic. You were like, I’m showing up. I’m here for a job. And I was kind of like, Yeah, but you did have, I think you had an extreme amount of pressure, because you’re leading this show, and I had a little bit less being in the ensemble. But then I think we found a way to, like, work hard but play even harder.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 11:46
I was gonna say also, I feel like we learned very quickly how unserious it was. Yes, I just feel like we you expect something to be like the most. We always showed up, though. Yeah, we did. We fully did everything through.
Dylan Mulvaney 11:57
I definitely probably had COVID before we knew what COVID was trying to do that show. Really scary. Do you feel like you got the work ethic from college?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 12:04
For sure? I don’t know if I’ll ever get that work ethic back.
Dylan Mulvaney 12:08
But I also think we did learn how to like be able to drink and have fun and tailgate on the weekends and then still be getting all the songs.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 12:16
I just went back and those kids, it’s crazy. What they do, like, just the amount of tailgating, the amount of drinking, and the amount of, like, actually showing up and doing their their work. I’m like, I don’t actually think I can handle this no and how we did it.
Dylan Mulvaney 12:28
No, but now I have, like, one cocktail, and I’m, like, on my ass, and then I can’t do anything the next day.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 12:32
Yeah, I like, hardly drink anymore.
Dylan Mulvaney 12:34
I know we’re not happy. What time go? I guess I’m gonna be doing a lot of singing on this one. You are. But then I also feel like we traveled the world together. We lived together in a lot of these places. What do you think was your favorite city that we toured? We did the Book of Mormon. You were naboongi. I was elder white. Also played like, Yoda in like, oh.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 12:57
God, making things up again.
Dylan Mulvaney 12:58
Oh, again. Are you? Yeah, they would have been. They didn’t audition me. They didn’t ask me to do that before, and so had been fucked if I couldn’t do it. So crazy. But what was favorite city for you? And least favorite city.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 13:12
I loved when we were in Mexico City. I thought that was so fun. Just we lived there for like, a month. We were there for a long time.
Dylan Mulvaney 13:18
We all got sick, which was, oh, two times for me.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 13:20
Really sad. That was bad. It was nasty. What was happening in that theater.
Dylan Mulvaney 13:24
It was so careful, but it was, I think it was some fish after a while, like.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 13:29
Yeah, you’re eating in restaurants. Like, whatever it’s gonna happen and but just being in that city was so fun, and we did so many silly activities, and we went and visited, like, all these random things, tequila tastings, like, it was just a fun time. Least favorite city. I don’t know, I skipped Peoria. My least favorite. I planned my vacation when I got into I saw the list of cities, and I was like, that week I’ll be gone well.
Dylan Mulvaney 13:54
And, you know, like, I kind of just eat junk food. But it was almost in Peoria was a new level of junk food that, like, didn’t even satisfy me. Like I was, like, it was like, all you eat is Domino’s Pizza, I know, and I don’t think they had a Domino’s and he was only Carlos Jr. And I think for me, maybe the Well, I was actually gonna say us going to Disney, Disney, but that wasn’t us. We like, took time off to go do that.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 14:19
We did that a lot. We would like, finish a show on a Sunday night, and we’d be like, let’s rent a car and we’re going to drive two hours to Sedona, or whatever vortex is, yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney 14:28
Or we’ll drive it an hour today. That’s where you like, discovered Joni Mitchell right on that road trip.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 14:33
Yes, we were in Arizona. I forget what city, but we after Sunday night show. Dylan was like, you have to come to this place called Sedona. And I was like, you know, I have nothing else to do. Let’s go. And we drove at like, 10pm till like midnight, and stayed at this really shitty motel, like, we think, I don’t know. We didn’t know what we were doing. And so on the road trip, Dylan played Joni Mitchell. And that’s when I heard journey for the first time. And I was like, what is this? This is amazing.
Dylan Mulvaney 14:57
And then we just went, like, a little while back to see. See Joanie’s concert at the Hollywood Bowl together, and I got so sick. Oh, you, yeah, Honey, what’s going on with that? Are you feeling better now? Of course, good. I was supposed to do this the next day. We that’s this was so meant to be, because we look glam. We do look glam today. Um, so I just, I feel like that was my fifth year of college with you. I feel like I, in a way, we were like kids becoming adults, and then us, that was also us figuring out what we wanted to do next. And I think that.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 15:29
What did you feel like you got out of that time? I’ve always wanted to, like, pick your brain about.
Dylan Mulvaney 15:33
I feel like I learned how to rely on myself. I think my body became like, kind of like a tank, like I could, you know, showed up eight shows a week. I really learned how to coexist with a lot of different kinds. We were really lucky, though, because usually, sometimes in musicals, there’s some drama, there’s some people there who maybe aren’t always the easiest to work with. We got really lucky, we had a great cast, actually, in the producers really tried to make it a fun space. We always had activities and parties. I think that I learned, oh, I know what it was I I think I learned that that’s what I was supposed to do with my life, like I like to, because I had never think you go to school for it. You know, I had been dancing since I was three years old, and to finally be like, oh, I proved to my parents and to myself and to everyone that this is what I’m supposed to do. And I was right, what did you get?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 16:33
The opposite?
Dylan Mulvaney 16:34
Oh, really.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 16:35
I don’t know. I think I was like, is this it? You know, I had a moment of just being like, Oh, I’m, like, killing myself, my body, this is so hard. It’s a lot of work, and I have, I learned that I really have to believe in the thing, like the piece and character for to justify, like, putting myself through that level of because it wasn’t just doing eight shows a week. It was like, doing eight shows a week and then on your one day off, getting on a plane and, like, flying to their way or going to bus, yeah, there was no time off, and there was no space. And like, being sick back then was like, a stigma, you know? It was like, You’re not gonna do the show. You can’t just like, you know, so.
Dylan Mulvaney 17:09
Look down upon call out.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 17:11
It was just like, you push yourself to these places. And then I was like, Oh, I don’t know if I actually, like, can do this right forever, if it’s not something that I really love.
Dylan Mulvaney 17:20
And then I even remember when the tour was gonna still continue, and you were like, deciding if you were gonna stay or if you were gonna go. And then you’re like, I think I’m gonna go. And I’m like, you can do that. Like, I mean, I was ready to be on that thing for another 10 years, if they let me. And I think also, but a huge part of that was like, I wasn’t in my right gender yet. And so for me, this was, like, the next best thing. And I do see how, like, a sense of complacency could happen, and, you know, like, it could get kind of monotonous, but it was like, we’re dancing and singing every day.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 17:55
We were so lucky to, like, be able to just like, experience that right out of school and be like, Oh, this is what we worked for, like.
Dylan Mulvaney 18:02
But I know still to this day wonder, because one of my favorite moments as well was us being in LA. We’re supposed to be there for like two months here. And about, like, week two into it, we were like, wait, I think we want to live here eventually, which was crazy, because, like, everybody else is like, it’s nice, but we all need to live in New York. That’s where people, yeah. We were like, no, no, live.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 18:22
This is it.
Dylan Mulvaney 18:23
And then we went, this is really silly. We went on the celebrity home store and, and it’s so crazy. Planned it, by the way, I do. I’ll take that. I’ll take that. But it’s just so funny to think about us driving around these houses that people know.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 18:38
Tyler Perry’s home. And I was like, wow, who knows if these are actually their houses or not. They probably weren’t.
Dylan Mulvaney 18:45
And then the COVID shut us down. You went back to Texas?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 18:49
Yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney 18:50
I went home. I went to San Diego. I think we were a little like, what do we do now?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 18:57
Was the one thing that we knew we could do or wanted to do, like, Disney, like it.
Dylan Mulvaney 19:01
It’s like, gonna be the last thing back, yes, theater, obviously, with like, 1000s of people in the seats. Like, there was no world without.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 19:09
Social distancing on stage. Like, it just didn’t make sense. Like, yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney 19:12
But when were you auditioning while you were back at Texas, in Texas with your family?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 19:16
Weirdly, was doing a lot of theater auditions, really, yes. And I was like, I thinking back on that now, I’m like, why was why were they doing that? What were they thinking? And then I started to get some TV stuff, and I was like, Yeah, I’ve never thought about this space, really, to study it in college. I took one on camera class. I wish we had more. But it was like, you know, there was, like, an Acting Program in musical theater, and we were musical theater, and we took one acting for the camera class. And so I was started taping for things like not getting anything. I taped for college girls initially, when I got the like breakdown, though it said, like, nudity was required, and of course, like, I didn’t know anything at the time. So I was like, well, then I can audition.
Dylan Mulvaney 19:54
I remember that conversation, like I just, and I was like, if they really want you can audition. They. Huge. Like, that was a big.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 20:02
It was, like. a really big thing in my head. And my agents were like, well, just do it. Like, just tape. You don’t know if you’re gonna get it. And I was like, Oh, you’re right. Like, read me, yeah, no, for sure. So then I auditioned, and then as I was doing the tape, I was like, damn, this sounds really close to the way that I speak, like her cadence, like I found her very easily. And I was like, well, that’s cool. Doesn’t always happen with auditions. Sometimes I feel like I’m like, putting on a thing, like, I auditioned for the Gossip Girl reboot, and I kept getting notes back from casting, like, Can you just be more like this and more like this? And I was like, clearly I’m not the girl. So just like, let me be. But this was one that I was like, I get it. And then I did it, and didn’t hear anything for a while, and then finally they came back, and they were like, so can you get on a zoom with like, somebody, and do a zoom call back? And so I did, and I sat in this like orange wing back chair that I had at the time in this apartment that I was in. And I learned after the fact that they talked about that chair, after I left the zooms in LA that you already was in LA.
Dylan Mulvaney 21:01
You had an LA?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 21:03
Yeah, because of the time that we lived in, because Simon, my ex, was doing Hamilton at the contagious and so he lives in that apartment right next to it. So I moved there. It’s all coming back to you, baby. So anyway, I sat in this random chair because I didn’t know what. I didn’t have a backdrop. We didn’t know how to tape at the time, yeah, and so I signed the chair, did this audition, didn’t hear anything about it. And then two months later, they were like, Hey, so, you know, can we do a screen test for you? And I was like, oh, okay, this is real. And I remember thinking about, like, should I tell my parents now or later? Because, you know, they were, they’re very, yeah, they’re very religious people, southern Christian folk, and even them saying Book of Mormon, was like, shock, because we do say fu God in the song in the show. So I was like, I’m not going to tell them until I have the job, because, you know, you never know what’s gonna happen. I probably won’t get it. And then I got it, and I was like, hey mom.
Dylan Mulvaney 21:55
Well, I will say that the title of the show sounds more severe.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 21:59
Oh yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney 22:00
The content.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 22:01
Because at the time, we didn’t have any content. We had one episode which was pretty sexy. The pilot is pretty sexy, yeah. And then, you know, sex in the title, and HBO, which is notorious, you’re like, Oh, I thought you were fully doing girls Game of Thrones. Like, yes, out, like, yeah, so I But in, in doing it, I had my team. I was like, so I’m not gonna do nudity. Let’s have the conversation again. I just don’t feel like it’s right for me, whatever. And they were like, Okay, we’ll tell them. And if you know they don’t want you, then they don’t want you. And that’s that. And I remember being like, This is so stupid. I was like, Well, if that’s not, if they don’t want me, because I won’t get naked, then that’s not the show for me. I’ll get something else. Of course, they were like, Okay, girl, whatever. It’s what you want. And so it ended up like happening, which is crazy. Has there been a lot of nudity on the show? There has? Yeah, girls, they can make it. I love that for them.
Dylan Mulvaney 23:04
And then I feel like directing, kind of, was the was it producing or directing that, like, kind of hit your slate next?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 23:11
I think directing, I was very, I’ve always been this way, but I’m like, very obnoxious when I’m on a set, just being like, and what do you do here? Like, what’s your job? Tell me about focus pulling. And so I just love learning how the thing happens. And also I found myself, like, when some directors would come in and, like, give notes, I would try in my head to, like, translate them for people. Because I was like, oh, okay, this is how they said it. And I think what they’re trying to get, you have to do that anyway, as an actor, you have to be like, they said this. They said energy to me. But what they’re missing is that, like, the pace is too slow.
Dylan Mulvaney 23:43
You’ve always been like that, though, because I’ll even say, like, on a, you know, a musical tour that has been running for like, 12 years, you still were like, but what is she feeling like here? And they’re like, everybody else is like, hey. So I think that that has always been a part of you, sure, the way that you break things down, yeah, I guess.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 24:00
And so I think being on a set and watching other directors coming in out, and some of them being like, directors who came from an editing background and didn’t necessarily know how to like talk to actors very well, or, you know, people who like everyone comes from a different way. And that was reassuring to me, because I was like, Oh, you don’t have to necessarily be a director that I, in my mind, was like, technically correct about all the things. Like, some people are very good at one lane, right? And I was like, if I can be very good at one lane, what is that lane? Is it like working with actors? Is it like scene work? Is it like? And if I can figure out the camera stuff, like, how, you know, how does this all come to be? And so I was very curious about it, and just trying to, like, take in information and learn. Like, you know, as they’re setting things up, like, what? Why they set up things a certain way? And being on a set, there’s no better way to, like, learn.
Dylan Mulvaney 24:41
And then was snow angel Renee Rapp music video, the first, like, big directing moment.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 24:45
That was the first one. And it was funny because she started doing music stuff, and was having to start come up with, like, concepts for music videos. And there was a song in the kitchen, which was, like, one of her first singles, yeah. And she was, like, getting pitched by director. And she was like, people were saying, you know, this, and I remember just being like, well, if it was me, you know, like, I would just probably, I don’t know, do it like this. And I, like, gave her the pitch, and she was like, Can we do that? And I was like, oh yeah, sure, go, you know, do it. And watching that happen was crazy, because I was like, Oh, wow, that was, like, a silly idea that just music video. And then the same thing with the second with the album. She was like, I think we’re gonna do this, and I want your help to, like, figure out how to do it. And I just thought, like, concept wise. I was like, Sure, I’ll, like, throw out ideas, and then it’s your creative director.
Dylan Mulvaney 25:29
Like this, like, the way that you do your house, even, like you every.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 25:33
I’m a control freak, Dylan, that’s the Pro. It’s a problem.
Dylan Mulvaney 25:36
Good.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 25:36
It’s not, I like, like things a certain way.
Dylan Mulvaney 25:40
So, but, and then did the that shoot go the way that you wanted it to?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 25:44
That was crazy. That was insane. First of all, it wasn’t even supposed to be snowing. It wasn’t supposed to be that song that changed 48 No, 72 hours before we shot the video, we were gonna do talk too much her other song, yeah. Then we were listening through the album, and she was like, I think snow angel just has a vibe. And I was like, You’re right. And she was like, I think I’m gonna change the entire album to be called Snow Angel. And the whole thing creatively shifted. Like, in 24 hours she called Adam. Was like, this is all changing, and we’re gonna shoot the video to snow angel, and Ali is gonna direct it. And I was like, I’m sorry, what? So then it was very quick process of me being like, what is this? Just having you say yes, yeah, like, say yes. And then, like, let’s find a location, and let’s, like, figure out concept and hire dancers and Corey, like, it was, like, a thing.
Dylan Mulvaney 26:26
Yeah, it was very cool. Maybe better that you didn’t have all that much time. Totally
Alyah Chanelle Scott 26:30
better. Totally better. Except for, like, I didn’t sleep for four days because I was, I do remember, like, but I bought books on direct like, I was, like, fully, like, just reading everything I could read, because I don’t want to. I was very afraid of, like, showing up in the moment and letting my letting my friend down. And this is the same with your show 365 that we like worked on together. Working with friends is so great, but it’s also the most terrifying thing, because you push you want to do good work regardless, but You especially want to do good work when it’s like your friends, and you care about it so deeply and it’s you, there’s this other pressure that you put on yourself. They’re not putting it on you. They have an ultimate trust in you. But yours just sort of like, I cannot mess this up, because if I mess this up, that’s not just.
Dylan Mulvaney 27:05
So then you producing. Your partner is Thomas, who is a dear friend of ours, and you went to college with, yeah, the production company is Runyan land production land. And how did, how did that come to be.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 27:20
Kind of similar. It’s like, I have these thoughts and I voice them to, like, my dear friends, and then one day they are like, Okay, so do it. And that was that was that in Thomas, I was asking him a ton of questions about, like, what he did. He was like, he was already producing in the city. He was co producing and producing his own things. And I was very fascinated by it, but pretended to be like, kind of put off by the idea of, like, handling money, because I was like, that’s so capitalistic. But also, how does it work? And so I would ask him questions that he’d be like, you just need to do it. I think you have a brain for it. And I’d be like, I don’t know. I think I’m an actor or director by because.
Dylan Mulvaney 27:55
If you could, like, tell people that, like, a general thesis on, like, what producing for theater is, what would.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 28:02
It’s a million things. It’s essentially like making a startup business for a show, and like getting it to opening night. You’re raising investment, you’re hiring creatives.
Dylan Mulvaney 28:12
You’re like, and there’s usually a giant list of producers, but there’s a difference between being like a lead producer, producer. What are those differences?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 28:20
There’s usually, like, two to four lead producers who make a Broadway show. On the Broadway show, that make all the like, logistical decisions about what happens with the show. And under those lead producers are co producers who help raise investment for the show and then also get are involved with CO producers are finding great money. They’re finding the money, yeah, and the lead producers are deciding what happens with the money. Basically, on a very basic level, it’s much more complicated than that, and you’ve done both. We Yeah, Thomas came up CO producing. I started co producing with Thomas, like, learning what was happening. And then very quickly we got asked to lead produce on Gutenberg by our mentor musical with Andrew Rannells and Josh CAD, which is crazy. And so we set a very quick yes, and we’re just like, we’ll do whatever.
Dylan Mulvaney 29:00
Well, oh. And I made my little Broadway debut in that.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 29:03
You did make your little Broadway debut in that? Yeah, there was a little bit part at the end that Dylan did and fabulously well.
Dylan Mulvaney 29:09
And lot of, like, got so many great people for that. But I think that I really was the crazy part about you is like, I feel like I’m the type of person. I’m telling everybody, I’m doing this, I’m doing this, you are, like, under the radar, and then all of a sudden you post, like, won a Tony Award, or like, like, oh, you know, directed this thing. And everyone’s like, what the like, but I actually think is, that’s one of my favorite qualities about you, is like you you just like, do the damn thing. And you kind of like, you make sure you do it as like, well as you can, and then you talk about it.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 29:40
That is, I love that that’s the way you perceive it. I that’s what I see. I’m just operating in fear, and then I’m so quiet, and then something happens, and everyone’s like, you should probably tell people that this. And I’m like, Okay, I guess, no, I think someone said this. I think it was Eli Rao on Tiktok, and I’ve been repeating it ever since. But it’s like, if you want to be seen succeeding, you can’t be a. To be seen trying, and I’m so scared to be seen trying, so I don’t say anything until I’m succeeding, and then I’m like, Hey, so by the way, and which is so unfair and not the reality at all.
Dylan Mulvaney 30:09
I was just talking with someone about this this morning, about, like, especially, I think if you get successful, or you’re good at like, one thing, being really good at it, then you go to try other things, but you’re supposed to be as, like, equally good at those things because you’re also good at this other thing.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 30:22
Yeah, which is not the reality. It doesn’t happen that way. You have to learn. You have to start from I still feel like I’m learning how to be a producer. I still feel like I’m learning how to be a director, like, even though you’ve done the thing, like, I remember winning the first Tony, and I was like, to Thomas. I was like, I don’t think I should tell people like, this doesn’t feel like mine. He was like, but you it happened. You know, it’s just, what was that first Tony, the first one officially was parade we were co producers on. And then the first one, I feel like was real, was appropriate this past year, because we were actually, like, I don’t know, it felt like we kind of worked for it.
Dylan Mulvaney 30:51
Aren’t the Tonys the best event of the year.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 30:54
I love the Tonys. It’s all that. I mean, it’s exactly what you think it is when you’re watching it from your couch as a kid, like in the moment. It’s that, except everyone kind of, like, knows each other, and you kind of know people too, and you feel like, Oh, this is like, a real community.
Dylan Mulvaney 31:05
Right? And now we’ve gone to a lot of different kinds of events. That’s my favorite kind of event. But I think the fact that, like, you taking this kind of the energy and the trajectory of, like, what you’ve done in TV, film, and then now getting to bring it into producing is been insane.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 31:21
I think what’s helpful in the approach, I think, to producing, having been an actor, is how much you want to take care of artists. And I think the perception of producers is often that they don’t care about artists, and they only care about like money.
Dylan Mulvaney 31:34
And I felt so taken care of by by you when we were working together. Because day 365, I had they did the show at the show at the Rainbow Room. We did it for the Trevor Project. I had never even like, written a show before, anything like that. You believed in me enough to like, help me do that, of course. And I think that, what was it like? Like, what did, what did you find from that experience?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 31:56
It was great, because I needed something to like, push me into the role, I think a little bit more. Because Thomas was like, You are a producer. And I was like, No, I haven’t done it. And then on day 365, he was like, so you can’t say you haven’t done it, because now you’ve done it. And I think you being there made me be like, I need to be present. And I need to make sure that this is going a certain way, or that we have the right people in the room for this thing, or we have an ensemble that’s all trans or gender non conforming. And like, I need to make sure that this is we’re putting, I’m putting you in a position where you’re comfortable and safe. And I actually was in a position where I could do that. And so I was like, oh yeah, let me take this.
Dylan Mulvaney 32:28
And there were, there were so many hoops to jump through, but like, we did it. And what it taught me was, like, you can do the right things, and you can work in like, a place of empathy and kindness and, like, I had such amazing conversations in those rooms. And I just feel like that leaving that experience, even that night, I was like, oh, I can do this now, like, whatever, like, I can create a show. I can lead a room. You can it was so special to do that together.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 32:59
Yeah, I think there is that idea that, like, there’s an idea that, like, you have to be perfect at something in order for it to be something that you do. But just because you do something does mean that it’s something that you do, even if you don’t feel great about it, it’s like you’ve learned something from it and you have done it, and that’s okay.
Dylan Mulvaney 33:16
We, like, not everybody knows what like they’re doing. I’ve really discover, like, even people that are, like, super high up, whether it’s an agency or, yeah, you know, casting, or, like, everybody’s just kind of still trying to figure it out.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 33:27
Yeah, and I love being someone that, like, doesn’t know what’s going on. I think it’s, like, one of the best things about the way Thomas and I work, because he’s so with it, and I’m like, so tell me how it’s happening.
Dylan Mulvaney 33:36
Yeah, it is crazy now to, like, because I really believed in college, like that was the we were only that was all I was here to do, was to do musicals. And now it’s still peace in my life, but I do all these other things, and I do think that, like a musical theater degree is great because it makes you good at so many things, and.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 33:54
If you’re not, you can fake it very well.
Dylan Mulvaney 33:56
What do you mean?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 33:57
I don’t know. I feel like half the time it’s just like you’re learning on the fly, and so some of the time before you know what you’re doing, you kind of have to like pretend and like feel it.
Dylan Mulvaney 34:06
I wish, the one thing that I wish they taught musical theater school is networking, because I do think, Oh, bad, you’re amazing at that. No, but we’re getting better together. I love talking to people. I love the art of conversation. I love learning how to match people’s energies, yeah, but that was something at school that I don’t think they gave us, that I wish they would have.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 34:28
I am too much of an introvert to know how to do it well. I think I can, like, hold up, um, but afterwards I need, like, silent time, sitting in a dark space by myself.
Dylan Mulvaney 34:37
But I think it’s almost more important here than it is like in because musical theater is still in some ways kind of straightforward, of like, you go into the audition, you show up to the open call, or you get, you know, what’s it called? When you get, just like, brought in for something, an appointment, there you go. You get an appointment for get an EPA. And here it feels so connection based, and I think that is the tricky of. Like trying.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 35:01
Well, I moved here to do the show, and like, was thrown into a very like, young Hollywood, like it was the energy around it made me feel like I needed to take myself more seriously than I did. And I was like, this is actually I reject the feeling of what this feels like to walk into a room and be like, I’m part of the next gen. Like it just felt so I was so unserious about it, in a way that I think I was meant to be more serious about it. And I just, I shut down and, like, didn’t go to anything for like, a year and a half. And you were like, Why aren’t you doing anything? And I was like, I just can’t, I can’t go in those spaces and try to be like myself, because I just feel like they expect something from me that I’m not
Dylan Mulvaney 35:35
Well, it’s also crazy. Back to the whole you getting me on Tiktok thing, because I remember, we were in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and you were starting to do these little dances.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 35:44
I was doing the dance dancing, which I’ve scrubbed from the internet, but I’m sure someone has, I think I probably have. I was doing, like, this is so cringe. I was doing like, I’m doing the Book of Mormon national chore, like, I’m gonna do this dance in costume, .
Dylan Mulvaney 35:57
You did the you did the dances in costume. And I was like, What is going and then you were like, You’re really funny. You should like, yeah, these videos.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 36:03
I was like, Dylan, this is the thing. And you were like, That’s for kids. I was like, no, it’s not, I swear.
Dylan Mulvaney 36:07
This just feels like it could be like, I just don’t know why you’re doing this. Like, we’re doing a musical, honey. And then we kind of went in opposite direction, like you stopped posting anything, and then I started.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 36:18
Yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney 36:34
What’s your relationship to social media now?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 36:36
I’m trying to be better at like taking the pressure off of myself. I feel this immense pressure when I’m on social media. Social media for some reason. But I had a friend say, like, social media is now becoming like another form of like media. It’s not even social anymore. Most people exist on there and like, Don’t post. They just consume, yeah, and so, you know, in order to like exist in the world, you do sort of have to be someone that puts things out for other people to consume. Otherwise you’re just an like, you’re floating and this nowhere space. And I was like, Oh, that’s so true, because in my mind, I’m like, this happened with Eli Rallo. I was like, I know this girl so well. And then I realized, I was like, we’ve never met. I mean, we went to college together, but we don’t I like, I know everything about your life, but it’s so parasocial, and you know nothing about mine, because I don’t post anything about my life, but I want you to know, right? But I get scared of.
Dylan Mulvaney 37:24
So many people knowing, and then the only perception people really have of you is like a picture of you at a fashion show totally.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 37:30
And that’s not who I am. And so then I’m like, Well, how do I tell people who I am?
Dylan Mulvaney 37:34
I love when you lean in a little bit and do like, Oh, speaking of like, I want you to be making baking videos and things you did make. What are these pumpkin muffins. Oh, thank you, Elias, that’s, you’re very, you’re like, very homemaker.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 37:46
I, you know, I’m obsessed with Martha Stewart. That’s like, she’s my she’s watched the dog. I’ve watched every doc of hers. I like, truly, I’ve seen everything. I’ve got her new book. Like, I’m obsessed with her and want to be her. And every time I tell people this, I recently, like, a meeting with my team the other day, and they were like, What do you want to do? And I was like, I think I want to be like, Martha Stewart. They’re like, sorry, lifestyle. Like, is that something you do? And I was like, oh, yeah, that’s something I do. They’re like, we had no idea. And I was like, that’s because I don’t tell anyone.
Dylan Mulvaney 38:17
I think that, like later in life, it’s like, you on, you know, doing, like, a Home and Garden Show, a little talk show us meeting up on the weekends in like, Santa Barbara or something.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 38:31
Oh, I’m gonna move to, like, North Carolina.
Dylan Mulvaney 38:33
We need a farm.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 38:33
Yeah, I was, I also think I’m moving to New York.
Dylan Mulvaney 38:36
Talked about this. Wait, you’re actually moving New York, honey?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 38:39
Yeah?
Dylan Mulvaney 38:40
Why?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 38:41
I’m never here.
Dylan Mulvaney 38:42
Okay, Broadway.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 38:43
Yeah, I’m only here when I’m filming, and otherwise I’m truly there, you know? Well, boyfriend, boyfriends
Dylan Mulvaney 38:50
there. I will say, Now, like a lot of people that you love, I think, assuming you love me, are, like, chronically online in many ways, like, Reese makes a lot of content.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 39:02
You know, we met because of day 365 No, yes, shut the fuck up. You know that I feel like I told you that. Hello. Okay, yes, he had, like, we’d, like, followed each other for a while. We never interacted. And then I was posting about your show, and he was like, Oh, I had no Dylan from, like, the like stuff online. We were like, mutuals. Like, what is this? Also like, You look nice. And I was like, hmm, he looks Linda. My name is to talk about day 365, but also to be like, hey, that’s how we met.
Dylan Mulvaney 39:31
That is tea. Yeah, oh my God, you’re you’re with your boyfriend right now because he’s an ally. You’re an ally. And that makes me really happy. We’re allies together. But is it, like, it’s just funny, because I feel like we now go to these events. Sometimes you’re with Reese at the events. He’s, like, working and like making the content. Are you ever like, I’m gonna whip my phone out and I’m gonna do a little talk to the camera.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 39:53
It’s honestly made it a lot easier. Like, I used to work it up in my mind to be this big thing to, like, make content. And it is, in some ways. Ways, but he’s so good at it that it’s made it to me be like, oh yeah, okay, this isn’t as big of a thing as I thought he’s. He’s so efficient. He just knows what he wants and knows how to get it.
Dylan Mulvaney 40:09
So I feel about Chris Olson, like, when I’m around, like, the way that their minds work. And I will say I used to be way more like this, until, you know, last year I got so beaten down by the public and the media. I felt like then that kind of put, like a fear, almost in a different way than of, like your kind of pushback from being online, but it’s like crazy when you can literally look at someone and watching their mind work and like how they want to create something in that moment. But we did just run amok at the wicked premiere. Oh my god, we made it, honey. So we went together.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 40:45
We did that. It was at like, CTG, like, the area that we did right.
Dylan Mulvaney 40:49
Across from where we did Bucha Mormon, and.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 40:52
This is just, by the way, the visual of us holding talking about
Dylan Mulvaney 40:57
Going to the wicked premiere. Wow, that I just had a weird like, but you got, like, best dressed, I swear to God, every tick tock I saw of you. Like, people would be like, wow, this is a really good outfit for.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 41:09
No, I saw one tick tock and it was from Nikki. And it was like, I like the concept. And I was like, I guess it’s not an insult, but it’s certainly not just.
Dylan Mulvaney 41:17
Looked at mine and said, No, which I think is so crazy. But I like, you know, I kind of live for it.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 41:23
I do too. It’s really fun, but that’s the only trick. Like, I saw myself. I didn’t see any other.
Dylan Mulvaney 41:26
I saw others. Oh, wow, I’ll send Nelson and then, but then, like, I love how we move about those rooms, like a crazy little musical theater couple where, like.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 41:35
I basically follow you around, and you run around say hi to everyone you know. And I’m like, I don’t know any of these people. I love talking to people. I’m very good at exiting conversations, though. It is one of my special skills. No truly, I can get out of any conversation. Do to get out a million things. I just like, know how to Reese is so bad at it. We’ve learned that this is our why we work. He knows how to, like, be in a conversation and have it for 45 minutes. I’m like, I got six minutes, and at the six minute, I’m gonna say, so good to see you. I’m gonna run and say hi to the host. Like, whatever. I just like, mix in the make something up. I’m very good at it, special skill. I also do love an irish exit. I will go home.
Dylan Mulvaney 42:08
You always, you’re always leaving unannounced. I’m okay with it, as long as I get to see you again. Okay, now we’ve reached What a Girl Wants?
Dylan Mulvaney 42:23
It’s What A Girl Wants. Here to an hour, okay, Alyah, what do you want?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 42:29
Well, I already talked about the therapist thing, and I really do think I need a new therapist. And that’s a very high up on the list of wants, just because I’ve gotten to this place of self sufficiency in a way that is probably unhealthy, and it’s definitely unhealthy. And I just think I need someone to be like, let’s check ourselves here, and it’s okay to ask for help.
Dylan Mulvaney 42:47
My life coach, I really think you should, oh, maybe see your life. Let’s talk about it. That’s what I want. So what I want, yeah, is on theme for our episode. I would like a Broadway musical version of practical, practical magic with you as Sandra Bullock, musical Kidman.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 43:04
Oh, my God, how did you That’s amazing, thinking about it. No, yeah, I can tell so, because it’s one of my magic needs to happen.
Dylan Mulvaney 43:12
It would be so good. I think that like because I was also trying to decide which one of us would play which character. I’m definitely Sandra Bullock, yes. And I just think, like that, that would be such a sweet friendship, sisterhood type it’s like, not too big of a cast. Oh, good. It like, it’s witchy, which feels very on theme.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 43:32
Like, do the Harry Potter Cursed Child, like, a lot of fun magic. Yeah, he’s, like, design wise.
Dylan Mulvaney 43:38
In this really amazing Victorian house on stage. Okay, call Thomas. Okay. Thomas, Thomas. Thomas is gonna make it happen. Um, we actually, you know what, I am proud of you so far, what you’ve over shared.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 43:49
I have over I was gonna say, you said, if you want to be a good podcast, I was like, I probably not gonna be a good guest, because, I don’t know, because this.
Dylan Mulvaney 43:56
Just feels like we’re in, like, in our car right now. We love it, but it’s now overshare. Don’t care. It is a lightning round of questions.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 44:02
Okay.
Dylan Mulvaney 44:03
You ready?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 44:04
No,
Dylan Mulvaney 44:04
It’s gonna be but it’s happening 60 seconds on the clock, and we are gonna go as fast as we can. Ready, go? Favorite musical.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 44:13
Into the woods.
Dylan Mulvaney 44:14
Least favorite musical?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 44:15
Ooh, You’re in town.
Dylan Mulvaney 44:16
Favorite play.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 44:18
Oh, my God, I’ll say appropriate as of now.
Dylan Mulvaney 44:21
On stage mishap?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 44:24
We used to play past the penny and Book of Mormon, and we had dropped the penny many a time.
Dylan Mulvaney 44:28
Oh, favorite thing to bake?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 44:30
A cookie, a chocolate chip walnut cookie.
Dylan Mulvaney 44:32
Favorite Renee rap song.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 44:35
Snow angel.
Dylan Mulvaney 44:36
Favorite memory of us.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 44:37
Sedona.
Dylan Mulvaney 44:39
Dream duet partner.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 44:41
You.
Dylan Mulvaney 44:41
Oh, profession you would be if you weren’t in the arts?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 44:47
An interior designer.
Dylan Mulvaney 44:48
Marry Fuck kill acting, directing, producing.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 44:51
That’s terrible. Marry producing, because we’ll be very wealthy together. Fuck acting. Because it’s crazy. And wait, kill directing. That’s crazy. No, you don’t
Dylan Mulvaney 45:06
Have to kill her.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 45:07
No.
Dylan Mulvaney 45:08
You can be. How about a mistress?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 45:09
Yeah, directing is my mistress.
Dylan Mulvaney 45:11
Deal, Dream show to produce. We’re big on manifestation here. It could actually happen here at the Dylan Hour we’re gonna put on this. Oh, you don’t want to say, Okay, deal is it, does it exist already?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 45:25
Yeah, okay.
Dylan Mulvaney 45:26
We’ll take it. What my dream showed is to produce, um, I would, oh, I want to do Legally Blonde as a trans production.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 45:33
Yeah, I thought that was happening.
Dylan Mulvaney 45:35
We’re the rights honey. That’s what’s crazy too. Have you learned so? Okay, good job, honey.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 45:40
Okay, I just didn’t answer your stream because I don’t want anyone else to do it.
Dylan Mulvaney 45:44
That’s fair well, but that’s the thing. I think sometimes you have to tell people what it is you want. And here’s what I will say about going on the record, about things, is, if you say it now and then somebody else goes to do it, you have proof that you wanted to first. That’s so true. It’s like, like, even what’s crazy about, like, my show, fag hag was like, I was like, if anybody else has a show called this, I will be so upset. So I need to make this thing now.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 46:07
I promise you, no one else is gonna have a show but the same title.
Dylan Mulvaney 46:10
I don’t know. Okay, you’re right. Um, but the like, learning the back end of like, the rights and trying to be able to, like, make these things happen, and how crazy that now we know, like, if one person doesn’t want something to happen, or one person doesn’t think you should be in a show, like, it won’t happen. It won’t happen. Yeah, every single star in the sky has to be in alignment for.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 46:34
It’s a true miracle. That’s why I say like, It’s a miracle that any show happens ever. So I hate that we don’t let some shows succeed, because we just don’t like them. Like the fact that it’s on a stage is a miracle, and so many people worked so hard to make that happen. I will never now, like, diss a show, because it is right.
Dylan Mulvaney 46:48
A huge theater. People cannot eat each other alive.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 46:51
I know we need each other.
Dylan Mulvaney 46:52
We need each other so bad. We need more music movie musicals, we need I love that.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 46:57
You say that because most people say the opposite, oh, movie musical is in stage to screen, like wicked or movie musicals in screen stage?
Dylan Mulvaney 47:03
I was gonna say stage. Okay, then yes, oh, because you were gonna you would think the opposite.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 47:07
People don’t like when it’s screen to stage, because they think it’s done. Been done too much. But you’ve proved that original musicals don’t get supported. So what do you want us to do? What do you want us to do? Do you want us to keep putting like, maybe happy ending on stage and then you not going to see it, and then it not doing well?
Dylan Mulvaney 47:20
What do you think is the future of like, Come commercial theater and Broadway?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 47:24
Like, I have no idea it’s it’s exciting, because I feel like people, more people, are getting excited about theater, but at the same time, it’s becoming so competitive to have an original show that has no stars in it, like, you just won’t make it anymore, because it’s just, it’s an anomaly. Stereo phonics is an anomaly. That’s not the norm. That’s a rarity. And it’s buzzy because it’s so rare. It’s the only thing that, like nobody knows anything about. There’s no IP there’s no you know, stars. It’s just like a, you know, lightning in a bottle.
Dylan Mulvaney 47:53
Same possible.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 47:54
It’s possible.
Dylan Mulvaney 47:55
Do you think that’s enough for people to chase the dream?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 47:57
That’s what. Why we keep doing it? We’re otherwise, we’re crazy. I think we are also crazy. But a lot of money being lost, a lot, so much but so much fun. But it’s like, yeah, you’re making art. That’s like, never a bad thing, no. And listen, they have the money somebody.
Dylan Mulvaney 48:13
We have a segment Alyah here at the Dylan hour called Last call confessions. So we have a call from a viewer that we’re gonna give a little advice to, you don’t I’m so down. Let’s do it.
Caller 48:28
Hi, who set the call just calm. I’m having trouble getting over an X. She couldn’t break things off in the best way, and went and got another girlfriend while we were still doing stuff. And this was seven months ago, and it’s still really hard, and I don’t know how to get through it. Some days, some days are better than others. And I just I don’t know everyone’s saying I need to just she’s not good for me and this and that, and I should cut contact. And I do agree with them. It’s just as hard to imagine. So no, I just wanted to let that out. That’s so sweet. Maybe if you have advice, I’ve taken a lot of it, but I haven’t actually taken it. I’ve heard a lot. I just don’t know how to move past and actually put myself first. But anyway, I love you. You’re amazing. Keep doing you.
Dylan Mulvaney 49:40
Very self aware. Yeah, I love you, and I’m so sorry that this is happening. Yeah, what do you think?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 49:47
I mean, as someone who’s had a very bad breakup before, there’s this pressure you feel to move on in an acceptable amount of time, acceptable amount of time. And I had friends being like, have you gone on a date? Like, what are you doing? And I just was. Was so not in that headspace. I was mourning this thing that was, like, so familiar to me and part of who I was, and this is not gonna feel good, but like, Give it time. Like, just take your time and don’t feel rushed to be in a better place than you are. Like, obviously, do things that make you feel good. Spend time with people that make you feel better about you know, the world and yourself, and listen to their words, not your own, because sometimes your own will lie to you, but like also take that time, that time is so special and necessary, and there’s a reason your body is going through what it’s going through, and just let it mourn.
Dylan Mulvaney 50:31
Agreed, and I also think when you’re the one that’s either being broken up with or being cheated on, or kind of being on one side of it versus being in more of a place of power. It sounds like you might be on the more submissive of this situation, of you know, having this person that you’re still loving and caring about and wanting to be with, but they are with another person. I think that, like, you can’t let that person have the all the power. And I think letting yourself be sad, not forcing you know, I feel like we’ve all got the friends that are like the Samantha Jones is like, get back out there, baby. But if you’re not there yet, you don’t have to do that. But also, I think sometimes when we get our egos bruised by someone that we cared about, we kind of like, want it to be restored in a way of like, Oh, I’m gonna make them jealous, or I’m gonna, you know, do this, this and this, so they want me more than this other person that they’re with. And I think my I haven’t been in like, a super serious relationship, so I can only speak on this in certain ways. But like, situationship for me recently was where, like, I did not. I was like, Dylan, do not find out who this other person is. So if you know who this other person is that they’re hooking up with, do not, like, try to learn everything about them. Because I think there is also this, like, what does that person have that I don’t? Yeah, and I think that’s really unhealthy and unfair to yourself. And I think just trying to keep what’s it called, where you like a little dignity, yeah, keeping your dignity, because I.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 52:06
Know that it was nothing about you like and if you’re having this sense of longing to be with this person and they don’t want to be with you, that’s not your person. It’s just not like they they wouldn’t put you in a position that would make you feel that way. And there are people in your life, hopefully that love you and care about you and listen to their words and like, if you can’t see yourself in that way, like love yourself through them loving you, I feel like that’s what I did.
Dylan Mulvaney 52:29
Yeah, and I’ve gone through, I think, a lot of these periods where, like, either I’ll really try to break down, like, how someone feels about me, or why they don’t like Me, or how to change myself so that they will and then, like, if they liked me, they would like me. And there shouldn’t need to be this super crazy Chase. I do think it’s unfortunate sometimes when, like, if somebody does really like you, you’re like, Oh, why do you like me so much? And then do you ever, did you ever feel that ?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 52:57
100% we talked about this with my current boyfriend. I was like, I don’t know. He likes me a lot. And you were like, Okay, that’s probably good.
Dylan Mulvaney 53:05
I know good to maybe try something that we have, but you’ve always liked really sweet people.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 53:11
Oh yeah, that’s like, the most attractive thing to me. If you’re like, kind and like gentle and maybe, like, soft spoken, I have a really specific interest that’s you’re obsessive over I’m there.
Dylan Mulvaney 53:20
I like people that don’t like me.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 53:22
You do that’s gotta stop.
Dylan Mulvaney 53:25
That’s gotta stop. But I hope that wherever you are and whoever you are, that you find someone who really loves you.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 53:31
Yeah, and you love yourself.
Dylan Mulvaney 53:33
Yeah, what shows are you excited to see soon?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 53:37
Well, we are producing. Oh, it’s baby sync show. John Proctor’s the villain, Sadie sink on Broadway. It is an incredible play. It’s been done for years, like regionally, in schools, and now it’s coming to Broadway for the first time. It’s very exciting.
Dylan Mulvaney 53:50
That’s crazy. When like things that were once then actually make like a Broadway, it’s very exciting.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 53:56
And she’s incredible.
Dylan Mulvaney 53:58
Well, I did see a video of her on tick tock, of her as Annie. And did you see that video? I haven’t seen that video. So she’s so good. I like maybe the tuts or something.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 54:08
Oh yeah, she’s a Houston girl. Yes, I forget that she’s talked her yet. No, I forget that she’s where I’m from. So excited. She’s from where I’m from, right?
Dylan Mulvaney 54:16
I’m excited to see death becomes her. I’m so excited. Gambry, big, did you work on that one? Yeah, that’s us. Oh, my God, very excited. I’m addicted to Marla Mandel. She’s incredible. I love what she does. And then, where do we retire?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 54:30
I’m going to North Carolina. I feel like I keep saying it, where?
Dylan Mulvaney 54:32
What’s your tie to that?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 54:33
You know, I grew up in like, a small town in the south and Texas, North Carolina. No, never, but Thomas and Renee are both from there. So to me, that’s like a vote of confidence, that that’s like a good place to grow. Okay, I don’t know if that’s real or not. In my head, it is, and it’s away from everything, and it’s in the south, but not like Southern what about Sedona? That’s too much.
Dylan Mulvaney 54:52
Wow.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 54:53
That’s too much for me, fair.
Dylan Mulvaney 54:55
Okay, I’ll visit naybe.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 54:56
I’ll live there. Where are you gonna retire?
Dylan Mulvaney 54:58
I think, um. Um, maybe like, the countryside of England, or, um, oh, I love like, by Yosemite, like Lake Tahoe, isn’t it?
Alyah Chanelle Scott 55:07
Like Republican though?
Dylan Mulvaney 55:08
Oh, honey, I don’t know. We gotta check.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 55:10
Um, we’re never gonna retire. Also, just to be we’re gonna work until we’re dead.
Dylan Mulvaney 55:15
Yeah. I think about like, um, Carol Channing, Diane Keaton, hybrid of like, Betty White is what I want? Oh, yeah. What do you want? Who do you want to be Martha, Martha Stewart, and she’s still insider
Alyah Chanelle Scott 55:25
Trading and all like, Let me have a journey so fun. She’s incredible.
Dylan Mulvaney 55:30
All right, and scary. This one’s, let’s take a last dip to Martha. Oh God, Alyah, you had lit. What the fuck
Alyah Chanelle Scott 55:39
I did it more for, like, the vibes and the memories, and less for the taste.
Dylan Mulvaney 55:42
Okay, fair. And you know what? We do have to go to something tonight, so it’s, I’m glad that we don’t. We didn’t sit too hard. But thank you for having you. You take one sometimes for the team, for me, big ally, what I don’t you decided to drink it dirty, surely.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 55:55
Oh yeah, from always, I’ll do anything for you. But love you.
Dylan Mulvaney 55:59
All right, everyone. Well, go watch Broadway. Go Support Theater. Go buy some playbo Pajamas. Go watch sex lives of college girls and everything else that this girl does. And we love you.
Alyah Chanelle Scott 56:10
We love you.
Speaker 1 56:14
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CREDITS 56:34
The Dylan Hour is a production of Lemonada Media. Our supervising producer is Jess […]. Producers are Carmen Laura,Kegan Zema and Aria Bracci. Audio and video production and engineering by Jordan Lynn, Ivan Kuraev and Brian Castillo. Our SVP of weekly programming is Steve Nelson. Our theme song was composed by Daniel Mertzloft and arranged by Aaron Kaufman. Special thanks to Megan Strickland. Executive producers, Stephanie Wittels Wachs, Jessica Cordova Kramer, Katherine Law and Dylan Mulvaney. You can find us online @lemonadamedia, and you can find Dylan on Tiktok and Instagram @DylanMulvaney. Follow The Dylan Hour wherever you get your podcasts, or listen ad free on Amazon music with your Prime membership.
