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Lane Kwederis is a comedian, actor, and FINANCIAL DOMINATRIX! That means horny men give her money…just for the pleasure of giving her money. THE DREAM! In this episode of The Dough, Lane teaches us about good little subbies, ATM withdrawal limits, and what to do when a man opens his whole ass bank account to you.

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SPEAKERS

Speaker 1, Speaker 2, X Mayo, Speaker 3, Lane Kwederis, Speaker 4

Speaker 1  00:56

What is the most surprising way you’ve made money?

 

Speaker 2  01:34

Oh, man, no, I don’t make a lot of it. Let me think I got offered like, 50 bucks to to drink three eggs the other day.

 

Speaker 3  01:47

Dog walking, that is still doing that is, that’s what I’m doing right now.

 

Speaker 4  01:52

I guess the weirdest way I’ve made money was when I was like 12 or something, I would paint bird houses, and they would be sold on Facebook marketplace, and I made like a good $60 off of that.

 

X Mayo  02:08

Welcome back to The Dough where cash is queen. Women are goddesses, and you should Venmo me $60. I’m X Mayo, and we are here today to talk about worth Uh huh. Y’all we live in a world that is trying to break us down constantly. I’m talking rent hikes, parking tickets, broken ice cream machines at McDonald’s, the powers that we do not want to see a bitch winning out here. So we gotta get it our damn selves. You hear that, Ronald McDonald? I don’t need your clown ass and bring back the McRib. I mean, damn. Anyways, this world finds so many ways to grind us down. It can be hard to remember that we deserve so much more than what we’re given, especially us women. Okay, I know you have heard the statistic before, but I’ma say it again. According to the Pew Research Center in 2022 the average woman only made 82% of what the average man made. And that’s not even taking race into account. Black women, child, 70% of the average white man, Latinas, 65% I personally know I am worth at least five average white men, six on a good day. And I bet you are too. But motherfuckers are always trying to trick us into thinking that’s not true, so we gotta be diligent about making sure we get paid what we’re worth. And you know, who does that better than anybody else, sex workers. That’s right, y’all. We’re taking it back to the world’s oldest profession for our episode today, and we’ve got an incredible guest here with us, comedian, actor and sex worker Lane Kwederis is a consummate New Yorker y’all. She has done damn near everything you can imagine for money. She’s an improv comedian. She does Reiki. She teaches Alexander technique, which is this cool ass form of physical therapy, you name it. This chick has paid her bills with it. But today we’re here to talk about one particular job she’s held down for more than a decade. Lane is a financial dominatrix. Oh, my God, I just love the way that sounds. That means the men give her money just because they want to. Oh, my bitch, I know when I heard it, I lost my damn mind. It’s the dream. This is what MLK fought for she’s here to teach us about good little subbies ATM withdrawal limits and what to do when a man opens his whole ass bank account to you. Y’all thought I meant his actual ass. No, it was a joke. So strap in, strap on whatever you gotta do, because it’s gonna be a wild ride. I’m talking this ain’t Texas. Hey, ain’t no hold Beyonce. Don’t sue me, I’m a black woman. Okay, don’t do that. That’s not good for the brand. God bless you. Good night, Lane welcome to the show.

 

Lane Kwederis  04:56

Hello.

 

X Mayo  04:57

So let’s just dive right in Lane, tell me. What the hell did you spend your money on this week?

 

Lane Kwederis  05:02

Oh, I think most of what I spend my money on and that I spent this week is just like therapy that makes you feel good. And that’s not always like classic therapy. I do also like Alexander Technique and like, I’m a practitioner, but baby, I go to multiple sessions with just like, privates on the regular, like.

 

X Mayo  05:23

Oh my god, yes, Lane, I’m right with you. If you tell me that if I eat this piece of tree, that it’ll, uh, handle some trauma for my past baby, I’ll do it. I I have that, you know, how to do the sound bath. Well, I ain’t got a real one, but I got a pot and I got a bowl, and I just, you know, bang them together. And I said, it’s just like that, and I just lay down, you know, whatever the fuck.

 

Lane Kwederis  05:43

I can feel those vibrations, yes, honestly, those are much cheaper vibrations.

 

X Mayo  05:48

Yes, hello and inflation is a bitch. Okay, so Lane, what exactly is financial domination?

 

Lane Kwederis  05:57

Financial domination, which is also called FinDom, is, okay. So normally, like a dominatrix or DOM is someone who the submissive or sub relinquishes their power to right? So financial domination is where they submit their power. But let’s be honest, in this capitalistic society, money is power, so they submit their power, aka money to me. And if you put that together quickly and you’re like, wait lane, do men pay you money for the pleasure of paying you money? Yep, yes, that’s true. I cracked the code. Just silence from you.

 

X Mayo  06:38

I’m guessed.

 

Lane Kwederis  06:41

Mouth agape.

 

X Mayo  06:43

Because, okay, Lane, so, but it’s not. My brain could not compute. I just was like, it’s not a thing. But now I see that it is.

 

Lane Kwederis  06:53

If you get on Twitter, you will see there is a different story, and that is that this is very real and there and very common. Yes, it’s actually a lot more common than you would think. And is constantly growing. Like, there are just more and more people that are into it, that are into it, from all sorts of financial backgrounds. A lot of people think it’s only rich men. That is not the case. So like, there are some subs that just pay for coffee every now and then, and they don’t get as much attention, you know. And so it’s like, oh, they get to have that. Like, oh, I felt like I did something. I call them a good boy. They’re satisfied. I have my coffee paid for.

 

X Mayo  07:28

Like, how does it, how does it work? Like, they send it to you, like they have to be getting something back, right? Like, and what gets them off? It’s the paying for stuff. Like, I feel like patriarchy is somewhere in here, because the fact that they’re like, providing and like, a woman needs something and I’m gonna give it to her, you know, and it’s like, yeah, I’m a man, jizz.

 

Lane Kwederis  07:55

All of those are in there, especially the jizz it is. They are indeed, um, it’s also such a wide range. So like, some of them just enjoy being called a good boy, some of them knowing that they’re like, bringing me some sort of a pleasure, um, like pleasing me by, by paying for something, by sending me a certain amount of money, like, that’s just what they’ll get off on. Some of them feel weird and have a lot of complicated feelings around money, and they feel weird spending that money on themselves. So they’ll spend it on me, which will then give them pleasure. So it’s like their way of, kind of being able to spend on themselves, but kind of in this roundabout way, some people like to be humiliated. So there’s like, sort of that classic dominatrix element as well.

 

X Mayo  08:48

Okay, so I specifically, I could see a rich white man in power, always having to be in power, always having to, like, know the answers, do so much work, manage a team, delegate. It’s like, fuck that. I want to be a silly little baby. Okay, so Lane, so what would you say to me? Okay, so my name is Matt Winetsky, okay, and I just gave you $5,000 I just venmoed it to you. So then what do you say to me? And I’m someone, I want to be humiliated. So what do you say you want to be humiliated?

 

Lane Kwederis  09:22

Be humiliated? And you brought me specifically the phrases silly little baby. I both use all of that, right? So, this is where the fact that I’m a comedian and I have and I’m an improviser, comes in really handy, because I’m going to Yes, I’m going to Yes, and all of your ideas, yeah. So I’m going to be like Matt, like you act so high and mighty and you’re making all this money, but the at the end of the day, you just need to, like, come to me, groveling on your knees like a silly little baby. No thinking only handing over all of it to Goddess. Everything you made today goes all to me, things like that.

 

X Mayo  10:00

To goddess?

 

Lane Kwederis  10:01

To Goddess.

 

X Mayo  10:02

I love that most of us call ourselves goddess, right? Oh, my God. So you can just send a voice note. You don’t have to see these men right lane. Oh, my God. I’m fascinated.

 

Lane Kwederis  10:11

I love sending voice memos. I think it’s because you better believe I am in my sweats most of the time. A lot of it is, yeah, keeping up a persona. I don’t show my full face doing it, so there’s like, a lot of like, levels of boundary with it. So sometimes I’ll send, like, a video or a photo, like, sometimes I’ll send them a picture of the bill that they’ll pay for. So it’ll really, really range.

 

X Mayo  10:38

Lane, I’m, well, I’ve been doing life all wrong. Clearly, I have some shit to fucking work out. Okay? Because, like, they don’t even know who you are. Like, this is great. Oh, wow, okay, so I have to get into the origin story. How the hell did you get into this work in the first goddamn place? Like, it’s not the kind of job that you know, like, you just don’t see signs up for this, you know. Like, it’s kind of like, it gives, like, if you know, you know, right? So how do we get into it?

 

Lane Kwederis  11:05

Yeah? So, um, I was pursuing comedy. I’d just gotten like, a BFA in Musical Theater, and I was like, doing that as well, and I needed money, and so I was like, and.

 

X Mayo  11:18

Now we see why there’s therapy. I see why there’s therapy, because she has, she got her BS in musical theater. Oh, god, yeah.

 

Lane Kwederis  11:27

The amount of money that that it cost for me to then cost to unpack, like, for that training is so funny and wild, but Okay, so I was, like, waiting tables. I was doing all these kind of different gigs, and I had this friend who had done these foot parties, and I would see this on the Craigslist gig section back in the day, and I was like, what is this? And I kind of went back and forth. And she was like, yeah, you like, go. You’re like, fully clothed, and men will pay to give you a foot massage. And I was like, I’m sorry, what? And so they’ll pay to, like, also kiss your feet, to what we will call worship your feet, maybe lick your feet. I mean, obviously you can discuss, like, what your boundaries are and what you’re comfortable with. But I go here and I’m like, Oh, these men are treating me way better than my waiting tables job. And instead of standing on my feet all day, I’m getting them massaged. Uh, how did I bounce my calling code? Yeah, the code. So I started doing that, and then more and more of them asked me to be dominant. I started to do more and more, like, sort of in person sessions with them. And then one had me go to the ATM with him. And he was like, okay, he’s like, I’m going to put in my card and enter in my pin, and I’m going to step to the side, and then you are going to take over. And I was like, say, what? And yes, and so he’s like, you put in a number and whatever comes out, like, you get to take and I’m like.

 

X Mayo  11:45

Are you oh my god.

 

Lane Kwederis  13:13

Oh my god, so I’m like, Okay, I don’t want to put in too high of a number. I want to make sure it comes out. I don’t know what this guy’s daily limit is, so I put in $480 and it comes out. And I take the cash, and I take the receipt, and I hand him, I give the receipt a kiss, and hand it to him, and I say, you’re welcome, and I walk away. And that is how I discover FinDom, also known as financial domination. And as soon as I did that, I was like, Oh, I do this now, absolutely, I do, the thing where I make money. With their kink is giving me money. I was making solid good money doing the other stuff. But this was like a total game changer. And then I discovered FinDom Twitter, which is just basically all of these people that are online that are into this. And so there’s a ton of people that do this that don’t even do anything in person. I don’t really do anything in person anymore. And so a lot of this now kind of fully exists online, especially since the pandemic.

 

X Mayo  14:24

Okay, so how much of your money on a monthly basis comes from findom versus your other jobs?

 

Lane Kwederis  14:29

Oh, God, I truly can’t answer that, and the reason why is because I’ll be in so much trouble.

 

X Mayo  14:37

No, none of yourselves will be like, excuse me, Goddess, we heard you on a little podcast.

 

Lane Kwederis  14:46

Okay, this was you. No, it’s hard to tell. And this is why is because it comes in so many different ways. So they will pay you do in all sorts of ways, like, some of those ways are even gift cards, like people will pay me in like, Uber gift cards, or like they’ll buy me gifts from, like, an Amazon wishlist. So it’s hard to say, but it has shifted more towards both comedy as well as, like I do all this somatic work. So I would say it’s probably like, maybe like 5050, now.

 

X Mayo  15:26

5050, okay, cool okay, so I have a question. This is a very dumb question I’m gonna ask it. Has there ever been a time when there was some overlap, when one of your subs became came into you for some somatic technique, like you were like, Oh, I know this voice. And they were like, I know that voice, okay? And they’re like, so I’m not paying you for this shit, because I just gave you $2,000 yesterday and got you goddamn Starbucks. Karama, has that ever like happened?

 

Lane Kwederis  15:51

I mean, that specific crossover hasn’t happened, but I think if that sub showed up for me in that way, he would be paying me more money, because, remember, there’s kinkin giving me money. So if anything, they’ll be like, oh, I need to pay you more.

 

X Mayo  16:06

As he should. Okay, when we come back Lane’s gonna tell us about the most money she’s ever made in a single day. And it is wild y’all see you in a minute. We’ll hear you, I guess. Or actually, I guess you’ll hear me Tony wrote a damn ads.

 

X Mayo  17:15

Okay, so what is your least favorite? And what is your favorite part of doing FinDom?

 

Lane Kwederis  19:08

My favorite part. I think it is the money.

 

X Mayo  19:14

I was hoping you was gonna say that late, I was praying […]

 

Lane Kwederis  19:18

I’m like money.

 

X Mayo  19:19

I know that, especially with inflation.

 

Lane Kwederis  19:22

Yeah, I will say too. I mean, the other things that I love with about it, I mean, it’s pretty nice being called goddess or queen or princess, like, that’s pretty wonderful. So that’s really fun. I think exploring my, like, bratty side is really fun. Because, like, we as like, you know, a lot of times women have been told like, you know, or people I’ve been told, like, don’t be a brat. But like, you watch little kids, and sometimes they need to act bratty and like, have a little fit. And, you know, honestly.

 

X Mayo  19:52

Let’s not act like toddlers that they didn’t eat. When it came to this, when toddlers stepped back and they put their hands up and they just. Just like, be like, do the message of like, pick me up, give me something. Uh huh. Oh, that was iconic, whatever toddler first came up with that deserves a Peabody. No, that truly is, when kids are a little bratty. You be like, Oh my God, I feel so bad. Isn’t that? Yeah. So men, if this is their kink, and they like, then they they like shit like that. It’s like, okay, yeah. And that helps me make more money.

 

Lane Kwederis  20:21

Right, well, I’m like, those impulses don’t go away. Like, no, we like those impulses just show up in a different way, where we’re like, I want my Starbucks. Like, you know, like we’re still doing it.

 

X Mayo  20:24

Like, don’t even get me started. I felt like such a classist bitch at my very bougie ass gym. They were out of eucalyptus towels. And I was like, just fucking ruined my is this piss on X day? Just like, oh my god, X please. There was a time your only form of exercise was walking around Los Angeles. Please, humble yourself. So, okay, so what’s your what’s your least favorite thing, Lane.

 

Lane Kwederis  20:57

Oh, and least favorites, yeah? Um Yeah, I would say my least favorite is dealing with, let’s see, dealing with men that like have trouble letting go of control. And so they’ll come to me being like, I want you to control me, and they’ll be like, and I want you to control me this way and in this way, and know that outfit’s not right, and also say this, and actually, can you stop and do it like this? And I’m like, I’m pretty sure you’re not letting go of control here. I’m pretty sure all you’re doing is controlling me, trying to get me to control you. Like, yeah, it’s essentially like they have such an inability to let go of control that like they’ll go to a dominatrix and try to control her, which is hilarious.

 

X Mayo  21:46

So interesting. Wow, yeah, so they’re trying to a dominatrix literally their whole job is to be in power. But some of these men cannot even give up power. You can’t even do your job, which is to give up power in this specific position, which will only benefit you, because it’s your kink.

 

Lane Kwederis  22:02

Exactly, I mean, that’s what’s also, like, kind of heartbreaking about it is. Like, as frustrating as it is, it’s also just like, oh man, like you want to be able to let go so bad, but like you just won’t get out of your own way.

 

X Mayo  22:15

Oh yeah, truly, yeah. So what’s the most money you made in a single day?

 

Lane Kwederis  22:20

There was one day that it was around 8000.

 

X Mayo  22:26

Around.

 

Lane Kwederis  22:26

Well again, like trying to keep track of the money is, like, very hard because, and this is from one person. This is one day from one person, because this man started buying, like, clips that I have on, like, sort of like one of the clip sites, and and then started to.

 

X Mayo  22:46

What do you mean clips?

 

Lane Kwederis  22:48

Yes, okay, so I make clips. So there’s, like, these different clip sites for like, sort of, like, dominatrix stuff. And so people will go and purchase clips of you, it’s it’s porn, it’s porn, but the porn is like, not what you would expect it to be like. Some of the titles of things that I have are something called smell test, where it’ll be like, is my armpit smelly? Or like here you have to smell it, or clips that will be me telling you to send me money, or clips that will be me.

 

X Mayo  23:19

And are you naked?

 

Lane Kwederis  23:21

No, you can be fully clothed. Like, sometimes I’ll wear, like, a bikini, like, you know, or something small, but, like, I’m never nude, doing.

 

X Mayo  23:29

Okay, so then you had these clips on a site, and they’re available for purchase.

 

Lane Kwederis  23:34

Exactly, yes, so he started to, like, Yeah, I noticed this person was buying all these clips. I was literally, what’s really funny is, I was on my way to meet my director to lay down voiceover for stuff for my show, and I’m noticing, on the subway, I’m like, Wow, this guy’s buying a lot of clips, and then he starts sending me money. And so he’s sending me, like, $100 and so I’m like, okay, send another 100, okay? And he does. I’m like, send 500 and he does. And he just keeps I’m like, send 1000 and he does. And while I am laying over the voiceover for this show, I’m going back and forth with my director, Matt, being like, Oh, hang on, let me just, let me take a break, and like, I send him, like, a little text or a voice memo, being like, okay, send another 1000, and then he just does. I’m like, okay, and I was like, getting annoyed because, like, I’m trying to work meanwhile, obviously, like, obscene amounts of money coming my way. So, you know, I was obviously frustrated because I was like, trying to make both happen. Because I’m like, I can’t say no to this, but also, like, I got work to do, but it was a hilarious thing to be like, like, quote, unquote upset about and then he was like, I really want to meet you. And I had, I was like, booked up that day. I was on my way to meet a friend, and we were going to go to a wine bar. And she was cool with him, like, showing up there. So it was like, okay, you can meet my friend. And. I had a wine bar, if you bring a lot of money, and so I tell him to bring at least, like, 2.5k in cash, and he shows up and he has that cash, and he hands it to me, but he has this wad of more cash that I that he like, I see, and I’m like, what are you doing? Like, clearly, you’re gonna give me that money too. Like, you just showed me all that money. Like, I you’re gonna give it to me. And he’s like, yes, Goddess. And so he hands me this other wad of cash. And so, yeah, overall. And then, like, I think he was like, he kept trying to message me. Then I had to go, like, to a friend’s birthday, and he kept trying to message to hang out. And I was like, I’m done, like, I’ve got stuff to do. But overall, it was around 8000 but it’s hard to keep track, because it’s like, some of them are clip sales, which I only get 60% were, like tips and tributes, which I get like 80% of, and like all of that’s taxed, like, you know, and then also the cash. So it’s hard to know the exact number, because it was coming at me in so many different ways, which is a really, just a really tough problem to have.

 

X Mayo  26:06

Oh, my God, I’m so sorry. Lane, no, it’s really rough. Okay, so if I came to you lane, and I was like, you know what, I want you to put me through FinDom boot camp. I am ready to be that sweet goddess. What would be the first thing that you that you teach me?

 

Lane Kwederis  26:25

Okay, first of all, you need to develop your like findom persona. So you would come up with like a fake FinDom name. So think of any name you’d like, and then add like a bratty or a goddess or a princess or a queen or a spoiled before it.

 

X Mayo  26:39

Yeah, okay. I would say goddess Fiona.

 

Lane Kwederis  26:43

Oh, I love it. Okay, Goddess Fiona generally, like you would, you would get on find on Twitter, and you would, like, study what everyone else is doing. You would kind of notice, like, what the different poses are and different stuff like that, and like, what their general auras are. So it’s like, okay, do you want to be like, bratty princessy. Do you want to be like, a cold hard bitch? Do you want to be like, mean and brutal? What would you like to be from those options?

 

X Mayo  27:10

Um, I would love to be a cold hard bitch.

 

Lane Kwederis  27:13

Oh, I love it. Okay, yeah. So in general, like, whatever people approach you, you’d like, you would both mirror what they’re coming at you for and sometimes also, like, the personality will change with that person, but then you will also, like, kind of maintain that sort of Persona. So like, this goddess Fiona, would you know, like, if he’s trying to be like, Hi goddess and try to chat, you’d be like, I’m not here to chit chat. Like, let’s go like, I snap you sendend bitch.

 

X Mayo  27:41

Wow.

 

Lane Kwederis  27:42

Use the word bitch a lot, and then it’s really about reading energy, like it’s so much.

 

X Mayo  27:47

So psychological.

 

Lane Kwederis  27:48

Yeah, no, it’s so psychological. And it’s really, it is. It’s just doing improv, but with horny men, which is what doing improv is.

 

X Mayo  28:37

Oh, girl.

 

Lane Kwederis  28:38

At any Comedy Theater.

 

X Mayo  28:40

Yeah, I did UCB. I was on a Harold team, Lloyd team, absolutely no.

 

Lane Kwederis  28:44

You for FinDom.

 

X Mayo  28:51

Absolutely you know what that was the boot camp, and that’s the end of the show. I’m just playing with y’all, okay, I’m just kidding. JK, JK, but I do need to use the little FinDom’s room. I’ll be back in a minute.

 

X Mayo  30:41

Okay, so we are gonna play. So this is a game I play in my show Sex job. And so we’re gonna play this game called, did I do that for money? The game show where I tell you some weird, wild stuff, and you tell me if you think I did that for money or not, got it?

 

Lane Kwederis  30:56

Okay.

 

X Mayo  30:57

Yes, okay, great, all right. And just so you know, if you get it wrong, you will offend me.  Others, you will have to pay me money.

 

Lane Kwederis  31:05

Honestly. Oh, I should change that joke pitch accepted. Okay, yes, all right, did I stand on someone’s face?

 

X Mayo  31:17

Absolutely.

 

Lane Kwederis  31:19

Yes, he wanted his face to be the floor right? Did I have someone put a rose quartz crystal up their butt?

 

X Mayo  31:28

Yes?

 

Lane Kwederis  31:32

The answer is actually no, because that’s a health hazard. Make sure anything you put up there has a flared base, or you might end up booty out in the ER.

 

X Mayo  31:43

Because that is a hazard.

 

Lane Kwederis  31:50

It’s a hazard. You gotta think about […]

 

X Mayo  31:54

Lane, you gotta have a line, you do.

 

Lane Kwederis  31:57

Because you know they’re not usually thinking straight, so sometimes you gotta do it for them.

 

X Mayo  32:01

Period, okay, I got that one wrong.

 

Lane Kwederis  32:03

Okay, all right. Do I have currently five credit cards from five different subs on my Apple Pay right now.

 

X Mayo  32:11

Five different credit cards from five different subs on your Apple Pay right now, I would say no.

 

Lane Kwederis  32:23

The answer is actually yes.

 

X Mayo  32:25

Oh my god.

 

Lane Kwederis  32:26

However, how many am I using right now? The answer is zero.

 

X Mayo  32:32

I thought that would be too risky and get in the realm of getting sued and illegalness so, like, I was just, I think it’s too easy for them to be like, She stole my because it’s on your phone and you’re using it constantly, versus you saying the transactions. So I think the little lawyer in me was just like, no, they she wouldn’t do that, but you aren’t doing that.

 

Lane Kwederis  32:54

So yeah, so just you do have them, I do have them, and, like, I have used it, but there’s, like, a very clear agreement with them, with, like, a max amount for me to use, like, what kind of transactions for me to use? And so the second they’re like, Hey, can you not use it? I’m like, yeah, no problem. Like, there have been people that have been like, you know, 100 bucks, like a week, or something like, pretty small amounts, or, like, paying for coffee here and there, but yeah, so currently I have five, but I’m not using any of them.

 

X Mayo  33:24

Okay, wait, so I have a question now, now that you’re telling me this, okay, yes, I would love because you’re dealing so much with money, and you seem to be a person that has ethics, like, you know, like, they tell you not to use you’re like, okay, cool got it. So how has financial dominatrix changed your outlook on money?

 

Lane Kwederis  33:45

Yeah, that’s really interesting. Um, yeah, it has, I think, I mean one, it’s made me be like, I deserve money, which has been really nice. Um, so I think it’s like, created, um, an abundance mindset in me. Um, it’s also taught me that certain clients are not worth, like, the amount of money that they can offer. So, you know, I think one of the biggest lessons from doing financial domination and sex work is like it has taught me to say no to men and to opportunities, and to know that there are plenty of other opportunities that do align with me to say yes to.

 

X Mayo  34:26

I love that, okay, so lately, you have been promoting your one woman show called Sex job, the musical. So what made you decide to turn your experience into a comedy show? I feel like I already know the answer is, as a comedian, but I would love for the people to know.

 

Lane Kwederis  34:41

Yeah, I mean, like, the stories alone are incredible, but I actually hid that. I did this for over a decade. I was not telling anyone. I kept it especially hidden in the comedy community, because I was like, oh, I want to be taken seriously. So more and more I knew, like, I just had to write something. And so I started to slowly workshop it, and worked for like, over a year and a half with my director, Matt Gehring. And it ended up even turning into, like a bit of a musical, which sounds very odd, but weirdly works.

 

X Mayo  35:16

No, it doesn’t well to me as a comedian, someone who lived in New York for eight years, like this is the shit I dream about. So it doesn’t sound crazy to me. I’m actually very fucking excited to see you perform this.

 

Lane Kwederis  35:26

Yeah, I’m so proud of the show, and, like, I’ve gotten to perform it all over. And then, like, the other of course, like, key thing to me was, you know, I kept it hidden because of so much shame and stigma attached to sex work, and I wanted to uplift sex workers, and I wanted to, like, normalize kink and sex work. And like, I wanted to show like, there are so many more people that are engaging in kink, that are engaging, especially in sex work, that we don’t know about because just no one’s talking about it, and everyone’s got this like image in their head of, like, what a dominatrix is, or what a submissive man is, and it’s like, first of all, we all have all sides to ourselves, like a lot of these like men who are submissive to me, have many different sides to themselves, in many other ways. And also, like a dominatrix is not just like a leather wearing, you know, woman that is, like, angry at men all the time, like, it’s a role that I put on as a job, because it’s just a job like any other.

 

X Mayo  36:28

Oh, my God. I had so much fun talking to you today. I want to thank you so much for joining us. I’ve took too much of your time. There’s like, so much more that I just want to just ask you, but I think we’ll become besties in real life, and I can just pick your brain and talk to you about I think you’re so talented. I feel like I watched your one woman show today because you’re so funny and charming and engaging, Lane. Thank you so much for talking with us. I can’t wait for this episode to come out, and I can’t wait to come and see your show and see sex job, the musical.

 

Lane Kwederis  37:00

Thank you.

 

X Mayo  37:03

One more time, everybody divvied up for Lane Kwederis. Lane, we are only fans of you. Y’all, I learned so much today. My head is spinning. I want to be a financial domination when I grow up. Who the fuck knew being a musical theater major could make you so much goddamn money, every amateur comedian listening to this shit is losing their goddamn mind right now. Remember kids, if your mama ever comes to you saying you gotta study accounting cause art, don’t make money, tell her mama, I got a career lined up in find out we believe in you here at The Dough. But even if you’re not about to start your dream career as a goddess, I hope you learned something today. I mean, shit Lane’s like a fucking therapist, the insights she has into shame, control boundaries. I mean, this woman is a fucking genius. Don’t be afraid to dominate y’all in life and in your bank accounts. And with that, I’m out see you next time.

 

CREDITS  38:20

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